Wallowing in the Shallows

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Welcome to Wallowing in the Shallows, the podcast that skirts the perilous drop-off of a deep dive into television and movies. We are two friends and academic nerds aspiring to become tv and movie geeks. We draw on our opinions and research to review television and movies, such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Good Omens. We are in it for the fun and hope you will join us in the same spirit. Wallowing in the Shallows can be reached at witstvpod@gmail.com. New Episodes on Thursdays.

WITS chats Star Wars' Andor | Season 2 Episodes 7-9
#30
Last Sunday at 7:15 AM

Tori, Nancy, and Jeff continue their chat about Andor season 2, episodes 7-9. We discuss the World War II references, and vibes from movies such as 'Casablanca and 'Close Encounters.' We spend a bit of time talking about the amazing performances and the excellent production. This arc made us have all the feels.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

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WITS chats Star Wars Andor | Season 2 Episodes 4-6
#29
05/08/2025

Tori, Nancy, and Jeff chat episodes 4-6 of Andor. We delve into the moral ambiguities of the characters, the rising tensions within the galaxy, and the consequences of characters' actions. We are into the intricate character dynamics and brilliant directing in these latest episodes.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

Luthen Rael | Wookieepedia | FandomPort Steergard | Wookieepedia | FandomLost Empire...


WITS chats Star Wars Day
#29
05/04/2025

Jeff, Nancy, and Tori commemorate Star Wars Day while Rebecca is on vacation. We play a version of bang, marry, kill and chat a little about the recent Star Wars Celebration.

May the 4th be with you!

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Baa Baa Black Sheep-Star Wars Mash Up | editingsithlord | YouTube


WITS chats Star Wars Andor | Season 2 Episodes 1-3
#28
05/01/2025

Rebecca is on vacation, but Tori, Jeff, and Nancy chat about Andor season 2, episodes 1-3. We discuss the strength of the character arcs in the episodes and ponder if anyone will change sides during the season. Shakespearean influence is identified as are some vibes from other science fiction properties like 'BSG,' 'Independence Day,' and 'Star Trek.' We work on getting the timeline straight--what events are happening in these episodes in comparison to other events that are happening in other Star Wars properties. We are enjoying the season so far and are excited to see what happens...


WITS chats Shakespeare's 'The Tempest' | 2010 adaptation by Julie Taymor
#27
04/25/2025

Rebecca and Tori are joined once again by Louise for the last episode of this Shakespeare series. We have some conflicting opinions about the play as we delve into characters and performances. Colonialism, power dynamics, and the impact of casting choices on the portrayal of characters are all topics of conversation. Because Russell Brand is one of the actors, we touch on his recent legal issues.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine | Free Music Archive

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound...


WITS chats Shakespeare's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' | 1968 and 2016 productions
#26
04/18/2025

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Louise discuss two productions of Shakespeare's 'Midsummer Night's Dream'—the 1968 Royal Shakespeare Company version and the 2016 adaptation directed by David Kerr. We explore these productions of Shakespeare's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', focusing on character analyses, particularly of Bottom and Theseus, and the dynamics of love and friendship within the story. We make some pop culture connections such as Dr. Who, Hannibal Lecter, and 'The Wizard of Oz.'

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine | Free Music Archive

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WITS chats Shakespeare's King Lear | 2018 Richard Eyre production
#25
04/10/2025

Rebecca, Tori, and returning guest, Louise, delve into the 2018 production of Shakespeare's King Lear, discussing our personal experiences with the play, character dynamics, and the performances of the cast. We discuss various interpretations that arise from different adaptations and how Eyre's choices of what to cut cause confusion in some of the action. We gush over the performances of (most) of the cast, particularly Thompson, Watson, and Pugh's portrayals of the three sisters.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the Way | by Mid-Air Machine; Free Music Archive

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WITS chats Shakespeare's Richard III | 1955 Olivier adaptation
#24
04/03/2025

Rebecca, Tori, and guest host Louise embark on a wallow into Shakespeare in honor of the Bard's April birthday. We delve into the 1955 Laurence Olivier adaptation of Shakespeare's Richard III. We chat about Richard's complex character, the portrayal of women, and the historical context surrounding the play. We discuss production choices like what was cut from the play and the use of color and shadow. We can't help but critique character portrayals, including the miscasting of King Edward and the performance of child actors. We end with some reflections on Olivier's vocal performance and its impact on the overall...


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 7-8
#23
03/27/2025

Rebecca, Tori, Nancy, and Jeff chat about the last two episodes of The Mandalorian season 3. We explore some reactions of YouTube reactors before wallowing in discussions about character development, themes, and some speculation about the upcoming "The Mandalorian and Grogu movie." We get into the reeds when looking at a memorable sock commercial featuring Pedro Pascal. At the end, we express satisfaction with the season ending while looking forward to future developments.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis...


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 5-6
#22
03/20/2025

Rebecca, Jeff, Nancy, and Tori wade into Season 3, episodes five and six of The Mandalorian. We start with a short reaction to the Andor Season 2 trailer before chatting about the episode. We explore the importance of community and communication in rebuilding Mandalorian culture, the significance of Paz Vizsla's support, and the portrayal of leadership through characters like the Armorer. Moreover, we chat pop culture references and cameos.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 3-4
#21
03/13/2025

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Jeff and Nancy to chat about episodes 3 and 4 of The Mandalorian season 3. We critique the Republic's dehumanizing practices, G68's manipulative tactics and Pershing's vulnerability. We venture closer to the deep end while discussing Mandalorian theology and their concept of family.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Typing: from Pixabay


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 1-2
#20
03/06/2025

Rebecca, Tori, Jeff, and Nancy explore various themes from The Mandalorian Season 3, episodes 1 and 2, including the humor found in character interactions, the evolution of Navarro City, and the significance of Din Djarin's relationships. We discuss the comedic moments with the Anzellins, touching on the blend of humor and drama in the series, showcasing the talents of the actors involved. We rave about the practical effects and creature design in the Mandalorian series. We also chat about some recent Star Wars news.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars...


WITS chats Marvel One Shots
#19
02/27/2025

Rebecca and Tori chat the MCU's One Shots. We discuss how they connect with the movies and television shows, plugging some plot holes and setting up what at the time were future properties.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sing Sing Sing: by Benny Goodman free on Internet Archive

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

A guide to Marvel's One-shot short films | SYFY WIRENew Rockstars...


WITS chats Captain America | Brave New World
#18
02/20/2025

Rebecca and Tori chat about their initial reactions to the new Captain America movie, including character utilization and the connections to the broader Marvel universe. We manage to get some Shakespeare into the discussion. Tori apologizes for mispronouncing Giancarlo Esposito's first name; it made Rebecca mispronounce it as well. Tori blames her Spanish lessons.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

James Barnes (Earth-616) | Marvel Database...


WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 6-8
#17
02/13/2025

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the final three episodes of Marvel's What If? We start off a bit off topic with the Fantastic Four teaser trailer. Rebecca schools Tori on the fifth dimension and Marvel Snap. Tori returns the favor with a lesson on "spaghetti" westerns. We debate moral ambiguity, discuss the ethics of observation, and sing a little Ethel Merman.

Tori apologizes for her audio. New set-up didn't work too well.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

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WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 3-5
#16
02/06/2025

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori chat about episodes 3, 4, and 5 of Marvel's animated series, What If? We're a bit confused over certain character actions and the pacing of the episodes, but love the mayhem and chaos in episode 4.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

Muspelheim - WikipediaVasily Karpov (Earth-616) | Marvel Database | Fandom


WITS chats Skeleton Crew | Season 1 Episodes 5-8
#15
01/30/2025

In this episode of 'Wallowing in the Shallows', Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Nancy and Jeff, dive into a detailed discussion of the final episodes of 'Skeleton Crew'. In this conversation, we delve into family dynamics and character growth, and the emotional depth of scenes directed by Bryce Dallas Howard. We bemoan unanswered questions left by the narrative. We learn that Tori continues to love Neel.

Music & Sound Effects

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Star Wars Style March...


WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 1-2
#14
01/16/2025

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the bizarre world of Marvel's 'What If' series, discussing the first two episodes of season three. We explore references to other cinematic works, including 'Apocalypse Now,' and Joseph Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'. We chat a bit about character portrayals, animation styles, and the overall narrative structure of the episodes.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound...


WITS chats Skeleton Crew | Season 1 Epsiodes 1-4
#13
01/13/2025

In this episode, Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Jeff and Nancy, delve into the first four episodes of the Star Wars series 'Skeleton Crew.' We discuss the show's premise, character dynamics, and the balance between Disney's influence and the essence of Star Wars. We also delve into the portrayal of pirates and the dystopian elements that reflect corporate culture. Our conversation also references various nostalgic elements from pop culture. We have a blast speculating about Jod's background and learn that Tori loves Neel.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo<...


WITS chats 'The Bishop's Wife'
#10
12/23/2024

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori wallow in the classic Christmas film, 'The Bishop's Wife.' We discuss the film's portrayal of angels and the historical context of its release in 1947. We discuss the nuances of relationships portrayed in the film, the significance of Dudley's character, and fruit cocktail.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Christmas Tale | by Amaksi; royalty free from Pixabay

Sources

Lesson of the widow's mite - WikipediaThe Bishop's Wife - WikipediaTen Things You Did Not Know About...


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 7-8
#9
12/20/2024

In this episode of Wallowing in Shallows, Rebecca, Tori, Jeff, and Nancy, delve into The Mandalorian's season two episodes, 'The Believer' and 'The Rescue.' We touch on the themes of family, sacrifice, and the nature of rebellion versus piracy in the Star Wars universe. We delve into Darksaber lore, personal codes, and the bad a$$ness of several characters like Cara Dune, Fennec, and Moff Gideon. We absolutely love the season finale.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by...


WITS chats Candy Cane Lane
#8
12/16/2024

In this episode, Rebecca and Tori discuss the Amazon MGM Studios film 'Candy Cane Lane' starring Eddie Murphy. We discuss how even though the movie starts out a bit slow, it picks up and mayhem ensues. We rave about the sets and the portrayal of 'The Twelve Days of Christmas.' An enjoyable holiday flick!

Frankenmuth, MichiganCandy Cane Lane movie review & film summary (2023) | Roger EbertCollider | Candy Cane Lane ReviewHi Native | "Drip" defintionPlugged In | Candy Cane Lane - 2023'Candy Cane Lane' Review: Eddie Murphy in a Loopy Christmas MovieChristmas Tropes - TV Tropes


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 4-6
#7
12/13/2024

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Nancy and Jeff, delve into the episodes 4-6 of The Mandalorian. We discuss how Mando is still learning how to parent the oh-so-impish, Grogu. We make lots of connections to other Star Wars properties and sci-fi megaflicks like Alien. We RIP James Earl Jones and Carl Weathers. We educate ourselves on important things such as a group of walruses is called a huddle.


WITS chat Noelle
#6
12/09/2024

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the Disney Plus movie 'Noelle.' We chat about character performances and production design while bemoaning the underutilization of talent and the heavy-handed product placement. However, we ultimately conclude that it is an enjoyable holiday watch, especially for families.

'The First Noel' by Krzysztof Szymanski from Pixabay

Reindeer sound effects: Maktub_ytv. 2023. "Reindeer Sound Effects." YouTube.

Sources

Shirley MacLaine - WikipediaPuffin - WikipediaScreenrant | Noelle 2019 Movie ReviewDisney+'s Noelle | Film ReviewNoelle movie review & film summary (2019) | Roger EbertHere's What We Learned...


WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 1-3
#5
12/05/2024

Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Jeff and Nancy, delve into the intricacies of The Mandalorian Season 2, Episodes 1-3. We talk about our love of Tatooine, the Old Western themes in the show (The Marshal!), and the insight we start to get about Jawas and Tusken Raiders. We converse about fundamentalism and extremism in The Mandalorian universe.

Reddit | Can Somebody Please Tell Me About the Darksaber?Mamacore | Wookieepedia | FandomGotra | Wookieepedia | FandomWerner Herzog Reacts to Replacing Baby Yoda Puppet With CGI


WITS chats Red One
#4
12/02/2024

In this bonus holiday edition of 'Wallowing in the Shallows', Rebecca and Tori dive into a review of the 2024 movie 'Red One', featuring Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evans. We discuss our initial impressions, character performances, and the film's entertainment value, while also exploring the thematic elements of Christmas and the lore surrounding figures like Krampus and Grýlla. We chat about the film's climactic moments, character redemption arcs, and the moral complexities presented.

PS - We were having some audio difficulties.

Sound Effect Sources

Record Scratch from Pixabay

Crickets from chieuk o...


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Retrospective
#12
11/29/2024

Rebecca and Tori review season 3 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We discuss character arcs, Jungian archetypes, award some best of thingies, and say farewell to Principal Snyder.

Sad Music by Samuel F. Johanns from Pixabay

Award Music by Denis Maksimov from Pixabay

Positive Psychology | Jungian ArchetypesBuffy the Vampire Slayer season 3 - Wikipedia


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episodes 21 & 22
#11
11/24/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat Graduation Day. Remarkably, we do not go off on tangents about our own high school graduations. We do engage in debate on icees vs slushies, and rapiers vs sabers vs epeĂŠs, and whether the arrow Faith shot into Angel was wooden or not.

Sound Effects

Kitchen timer from Pixabay

SpongeBob Time Cards. 2017. A Few Moments Later | SpongeBob Time Card #8 | YouTube

Sources

K Morgan. 2013. Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Joss Whedon on "Graduation Day" (Season 3) | YouTube

Reddit | AskScienceFiction | On Killing VampiresGraduation Day (Buffy the V...


WITS special message
#2
11/21/2024

Hey, hello peeps. A short announcement from Wallowing in the Shallows. Our Buffy episode will be late this week. We had the mother of all windstorms here in the Pacific Northwest and we lost power and internet a couple of days ago. Of course, that meant we couldn’t get the episode edited and uploaded. Now that power and internet are restored (thanks Seattle Power and Light for busting a##!), and once we get caught up with real-life things like cleaning out the fridge of spoiled goods and, oh, you know, paid work, we’ll get the episode uploaded. Soon...


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 20
#10
11/14/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat The Prom. We discuss The Break-Up while Rebecca rails against Angel and Tori goes off on Joyce. Winking Girl's friend-watch pays off as she shows up at the prom. Snaps to SGM and David Boreanaz for their acting chops during the break-up scene.

Sources

‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’: Every Episode Ranked From Worst to BestHellhound - WikipediaDo Werewolves Age? | Werewolves


WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 7-9
#3
11/11/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat about the final three episodes of Agatha All Along. We rave about episode 7 and discuss if what happened on the road was all Billy or did the women have some agency. We also speculate about the future of Billy and Agatha.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 19
#9
11/07/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat Choices. We discuss the many choices made in the episode and choose to go on a few tangents about important things such as hard candy and child development theory.

Print Source

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Other Sources

Storytelling song created by Tori using ChatGPT and Suno AI.

Christmas Tale by Amaksi on Pixabay.

Choices | Buffyverse Wiki | FandomSimply Psychology | Erik EricksonSimply Psychology | PiagetAthame - WikipediaGavrok | Tardis | Fandom


WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 4-6
#2
11/04/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat about Agatha All Along episodes 4-6. We speculate about what is going on with the story while saying "I don't know" a lot. We identify various vibes we get about other properties like ET and Harry Potter, and agree that we're both enjoying the show.

Sources

Tarot Explained | Three of SwordsTarot Explained | Knight of WandsGo Ask Alice - Wikipedia


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 18
#8
10/31/2024

Content Advisory: This episode of Wallowing in the Shallows includes discussion of mass shootings and attempted murder. Listener discretion is advised. If you need help, you can contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, by dialing 988. Calls are free and confidential.

Rebecca and Tori chat about Earshot. We do have a longish discussion about school violence, including some history into the 1800s. We also discuss the food babysitters fed us, the definition of a mulligan, Pierce Brosnan, and Othello.

Sources

List of school shootings in the United States (2000–present) - WikipediaList of school shootings in the Un...


WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 1-3
#1
10/28/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat the first three episodes of Marvel Television's 'Agatha All Along.' We make some connections to 'Wandavision' and educate ourselves about comic book Agatha. We explore the trials faced by Agatha's coven and speculate about Teen. Both of us dig the nods to other pop culture properties like the 'Wizard of Oz' and Japanese horror. We're hooked on this show that "nobody knew they wanted."

Sources

Entire History of Agatha Harness | ZapZoomZing | YouTube

Vocabulary.com | alewifeScreenRant | Rio Vidal Explained


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 17
#7
10/24/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat about Enemies. We once again get into some Jungian theory of personality while discussing Faith's slide into the dark side and debate whether Angel and Faith had sex.

Sources

Retrobox | Dec 10 2012 | YouTube | Kibbles and Bits and Bits (80s)

Waiting for Godot - Wikipedia


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 16
#6
10/17/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat Doppelgangland. We get Jungian about Willow's identity crisis and rhapsodize about all of the great quotes in the episode.

Sources

The Passion of the Nerd | Doppelgangland S03E16 - TPN's Buffy Guide | YouTube

‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’: Every Episode Ranked From Worst to BestSimply Psychology | Carl JungK's Choice - WikipediaBuffy the Vampire Slayer Rewatch: Doppelgangland - TV Fanatic


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episodes 14 & 15
#5
10/13/2024

We're late (sickness and technical problems), but we're finally able to upload this week's episode. Rebecca and Tori chat about Bad Girls and Consequences. We touch on the introduction of a new Watcher, how Faith leads Buffy astray, Scooby dynamics gone off kilter, and how the main differences between the Slayers is clear by the end of the two episodes.

Other References

Chemical Party | addyson99 | YouTube

Bad Girls S03E14 | The Passion of the Nerd | YouTube

Consequences S03E15 | The Passion of the Nerd | YouTube

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Announcement Oct. 10
#1
10/10/2024

Just a short announcement.


WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 13
#4
10/03/2024

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Zeppo. We talk a bit of history about Zeppo Marx, Xander's spiral, and the undead crew. We cover everything we loved about the structure of the episode.

Resources

Suspense music sound effect from Pixabay

‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’: Every Episode Ranked From Worst to BestCollider | Zeppo Marx Brothers History ExplainedBuffy the Vampire Slayer Rewatch: The Zeppo - TV FanaticDaryl Davis: Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies | Daryl Davis | TEDxNaperville | TED Talk