Hey! It's The Luskos
Sit down with pastors and authors Levi and Jennie Lusko for an unfiltered look at the madness of the Lusko’s life, marriage, ministry, faith, grief, and growth that goes on behind the scenes. (It may or may not include: product reviews, coffee recommendations, Disney hacks and all the things that make life wonderful) Hosted by Pastors of Fresh Life Church, and authors of best selling book Through The Eyes of a Lion, I Declare War, Swipe Right and The Fight to Flourish.
Ep 254: Luke Lezon: Not Ready Yet? Show Up Anyway |Levi + Jennie Lusko | Hey! It's The Luskos
At 17, Luke Lezon marched into his mom's furniture boutique and announced he didn't believe any of it. She didn't even flinch. Luke joins Levi and Jennie for the story of a 10,000-person Bible study at Texas A&M, a wife he met on Twitter, and how a church split put a 28-year-old young adults pastor in the pulpit every Sunday. Plus Levi looks up what "Gig 'em" actually means, and it is way more violent than anyone expected.
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Ep 253: Stasi Eldredge: Is There More to Knowing Jesus? | Levi + Jennie Lusko | Hey! It's The Luskos
When John Eldredge met Stasi in drama class, his opening line was "Don't mark me absent." Forty-three years later, Stasi joins Jennie to talk about the monastery bells that pause her ministry's day twice daily, the loss of Brent Curtis just as Wild at Heart was taking shape, and trying on the sentence "I fail, but I am not a failure." Plus a look at her brand new book, The Ladder of Love, out now.
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Ep 252: Strings & Heart: When does faith become your own? | Levi + Jennie Lusko | Hey! It's The Luskos
Some kids get stuck doing the dishes. The Espinosa brothers, Angelo, Michael, and Eric, got music lessons as their chore, so when big brother Angelo pitched starting a band, the answer was a hard no. (Spoiler: they're Strings & Heart now, and they're on a rocket ship.) The Tucson trio tells Levi and Jennie how Jesus made their faith their own, why their first "youth camp" gig was in someone's backyard, and how Angelo moonlighted as their totally legit booking agent, Jonathan. Plus: their new single, How It Feels To Live.
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Ep 251: Josiah & Trinity Queen: What If They Say No? | Levi + Jennie Lusko | Hey! It's The Luskos
Josiah Queen and his wife Trinity join Levi and Jennie for their first joint episode — and it's a good one. They trade the story of how a ping pong ball to the back turned into a marriage, get into the making of Josiah's viral hit "Amazing", and Trinity opens up about the year she committed to sharing the gospel every single day — including the time she gave a total stranger her favorite necklace. Plus: a first look at Josiah's new album and a surprise book announcement.
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Ep 250: Bryce Crawford: How Do You Stop Living in Shame? | Hey! It's The Luskos
Ever feel like the first year of marriage is supposed to be miserable? Bryce Crawford — six months in and still figuring out how normal couples argue over finances — says that's a lie. He talks with Levi and Jennie about wrestling shame from his past, finishing his Liberty University Bible degree from a tour bus (Lightning McQueen Crocs and all), and why he's taking his ministry back to outdoor college campuses this fall. Also: the story behind his Jesus-branded energy drink, Praise, and a very strong opinion on the Star Wars sequels.
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Ep 249: Brooke Ligertwood: What If Your Life Isn't Supposed to Be a Highlight Reel? | Hey! It's The Luskos
Worship leader and songwriter Brooke Ligertwood is back on the couch — a third-time guest whose new album Eat sets Scripture word-for-word to music. She and Levi swap stories about the time they turned a Montana set into the moon, talk through the marriage-saving phrase "is that a final draft?", and unpack her philosophy of "iceberg life" — why the healthiest faith is 90% invisible. It ends, naturally, with wedding-night chaos and a burnt bridal gown.
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Ep 248: Sadie & Christian Huff: What Do You Do When the Truth Gets Personal?
Sadie and Christian Huff are back for their third visit — and three years, three kids, and one viral leech-in-a-box clip later, they're catching Levi and Jennie up on everything. They open up about filming Duck Dynasty: The Revival through Sadie's pregnancy with Kit (which wrapped the same week they said goodbye to Phil Robertson), what Sadie learned writing her most personal book yet, and the honest, sometimes hilarious dynamics of doing life and ministry as a family in the public eye.
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...Ep 247: Lisa Harper: For Anyone Who's Never Felt Chosen
Fifth-time guest Lisa Harper is back — fresh off a whirlwind trip through England, Wales, the Netherlands, and Scotland, and still nursing the jet lag. Between hug-ministry theology, Levi's 75-day merino wool shorts experiment (Lisa remains skeptical), and a surprise moment praying with a stranger in a London store, the conversation turns to Lisa's new book on the Song of Songs — unpacking how the Bible's most intimate book taught her that God delights in her, brokenness and all.
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Ep 246: David Thomas: Raising Capable Kids
David Thomas — co-founder of Daystar Counseling and co-author of the new book Capable — joins Levi and Jennie to unpack why chasing our kids' happiness might actually be setting them up to fail. From three kids under age two to a grandmother who asked one piercing question his whole life, David breaks down the "three C's" (coping, competence, challenges) and why loving our kids sometimes means letting them struggle. Plus: the running story that changed how he parents. Connect with us on social! David: @raisingboysandgirls Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife [Links] Check out David & Sissy's book, Capable: https://bit...
Ep 245: Phil Wickham: How Do You Stop Performing for God?
Phil Wickham catches up with Levi and Jennie fresh off his Song of the Saints tour — the one where God stopped him in his tracks the night before opening night with one question: are you really letting me be Lord of your life? Phil opens up about that surrender, the inflatable rocks that gave him a stage-prop identity crisis, and the audiobook producer who wasn't a believer until eight hours in the studio together. Plus: his new book Everyday Hallelujah, cottage cheese hacks, and a fall tour with Chandler Moore!
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...Ep 244: Joel Muddamalle: The Truth About Demons, Nephilim, and Spiritual Warfare
Dr. Joel Muddamalle is back for round three, and this time he's taking Levi and Jennie into the deep end — demons, the Nephilim, and what the Bible actually says about spiritual warfare. They talk why he's stepping back from viral reaction content in favor of long-form Substack essays, swap travel stories from Ephesus and Crete, and dig into his new book The Unseen Battle: can demons read minds, were the Nephilim real, and is Judas in heaven? Plus: Snickers bars, Nicolas Cage, and a very memorable joke about Indiana Jones.
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...Special Episode: Jon Erwin: How Failure Forges True Leadership
Jon Erwin — the filmmaker behind Young Washington, House of David, and Jesus Revolution — joins Levi and Jennie to talk about why he spent a decade obsessed with George Washington before ever picking up a camera. They get into how Washington's worst failures actually forged his leadership, the real bullet holes that shaped his faith, and why Jon cast Andy Serkis (yes, Gollum himself) for the film. Plus: the wild, lifeguard-overwhelming baptism story behind Jesus Revolution and what's coming next from Wonder Project.
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<...Ep 243: Graham Furtick: How Do You Know When to Let Go?
He's the son of pastor Stephen Furtick, but Graham built something all his own — a Sunday-night Bible study with four friends that grew into "the living room," a movement so big the cops got called on it. Fresh off graduation, Graham joins Levi and Jennie to talk about walking away from a wrestling scholarship, the "pocket praiser" principle that changed how he worships, and bombing his very first sermon.
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...Ep 242: Cliffe + Stuart Knechtle: What to Say When Faith Gets Hard Questions
From Cliffe getting pies thrown at him on a college quad while three-year-old Stuart clung to his leg, to preaching in Boston's red-light district as a seminary student, this episode is equal parts hilarious, theologically sharp, and genuinely moving. Father-son duo Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle — open-air apologists, church planters, and co-authors of Demolishing Doubt — join Levi and Jennie for one of the most wide-ranging conversations the podcast has ever had. Plus: the hardest question Cliffe still gets a flutter about, why miracles aren't actually defying nature, and the reason Stuart's eight-year-old already has Romans 8 memorized.
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Ep 241: Shawn + Jill Johnson: How Do You Keep Marriage Fresh?
Pastor Shawn and Jill Johnson from Red Rocks Church are back for their fourth appearance, and things get real fast — from the legendary canoe trip where Shawn sat on a dead mouse for four hours, to the honest, hard-won wisdom they've collected after nearly three decades of marriage. Levi and Jennie swap notes with the Johnsons on keeping it flirty, surviving hard seasons, knowing when comfort tips into neglect, and the "final draft" language that changed how Shawn and Jill communicate. Plus: Red Rocks Church's sold-out 20th anniversary service at Red Rocks Amphitheater, a son DJing his second-ever gig on...
Ep 240: Jennie Lusko: Fresh Mercies Every Day
Jennie Lusko is the guest — on her own podcast — to celebrate the release of her new devotional Fresh Mercies Every Day, a 40-day book drawn from decades of her personal journals (yes, she has over 100 of them, all laid out chronologically on the floor). Levi, Jennie, and their firstborn daughter Alivia dig into the writing process, Jennie's lifelong journaling habit that started at age eight, and what it actually looks like to receive God's mercy instead of just trying to earn it. Plus: Jennie's most-prayed prayers, her quiet time hacks, and the Jurassic Park speech Levi somehow turns into a tr...
Ep 239: Tasha Calvert: Stop trying harder, start surrendering
Women's minister, author, and Texas-born-and-proud Tasha Calvert joins Jennie for one of those conversations that just makes you exhale. Tasha gets honest about going through the motions for years — church attendance, all the programs, filling in every blank — while still missing the real thing, and how God used a crisis in her marriage to finally get through to her. They also talk about her new book Set Apart for More, why holiness has basically disappeared from our vocabulary, and why surrendering control is actually the most freeing thing you can do.
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Ep 238: Debra Fileta: The Skill Many Christians Are Missing
Licensed counselor and author Debra Fileta is back for her third appearance, and this one hits different — she's here to talk about the skill we're all convinced we already have. Levi and Jennie dig into Debra's new book People Skills, unpacking why our tech-saturated world is quietly eroding our ability to connect, why most of us privately think this book is for someone else (spoiler: it isn't), and how communication styles — passive, aggressive, passive-aggressive, and assertive — show up in something as simple as a wrong order at a restaurant. Plus: Debra shares the moment God changed her perspective on public...
Ep 237: Zach Windahl: For the Believer Who Still Feels Lost
Zach Windahl — author of The Bible Simplified — joins Levi and Jennie for a conversation about why so many believers still feel lost in scripture, what finally clicks when you see the whole Bible as one connected story, and the wild COVID wedding that required a cross-state drive with two hours to spare just to get a marriage license. They dig into making the Old Testament less intimidating, how 66 books become one story that changes everything, Bible memorization, and raising kids who love God's word. Plus: the chocolate chip cookie recipe Zach promised to share.
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Ep 236: Courtney Pray Duke: when grief is real but so is God
Courtney Pray Duke joins Levi and Jennie for a deeply moving conversation about grief, healing, and the unexpected ways God meets us in our hardest moments. From the physical toll of writing her story to the vulnerability of releasing it into the world, Courtney shares what it’s really like to carry hope after unimaginable loss.
After losing her husband Andrew in a tragic accident, Courtney found herself navigating life as a young widow with three kids—learning to survive, to trust God in the unknown, and eventually, to live again. This episode holds space for...
Ep 235: Abbie + Gabriel Gamboa: when God says "go"
Abbie and Gabriel Gamboa join Levi and Jennie for a hilariously honest, deeply encouraging conversation about marriage, calling, and the messy middle between “God said” and “okay… now what?” From conspiracy-theory dabbling to the sacred art of naming what’s real (in dating, in ministry, in life), this episode is full of both belly laughs and quiet conviction.
You’ll hear how their friendship turned into a seven-year marriage, the wild backstory of getting pulled into music as kids, and the gritty season where they were juggling jobs, babies, and payday loans—until they finally took the leap in...
Ep 234: Jimmy Darts: Undercover Kindness & Viral Generosity
Jimmy Darts joins Levi + Jennie for a wild, hope-filled conversation about the behind-the-scenes heart of the viral kindness videos that have moved millions. From asking strangers for tiny favors to watching generosity “snowball” into life-changing provision, Jimmy shares how God gave him the strategy—and why he’s obsessed with keeping the spotlight on everyday people who say yes.
Along the way, this episode goes deeper than you might expect: healing miracles, a Billy Graham YouTube moment that changed everything, a simple way to sort suffering and God’s goodness, and why compassion (not polish) is often t...
Ep 233: Triumph and Sadness: Levi + Jennie Lusko
This week, we’re so excited to share something really special: a message Levi gave at one of our Fresh Life pop-up worship nights in Kalispell.
It’s a word that’s meant a lot to us, and we wanted to bring it here because it speaks so honestly to the tension so many of us feel—how to walk with God through both triumph and sadness.
In this episode, Levi talks about what it looks like to worship God in every season, whether you’re holding joy, grief, gratitude, disappointment, or some mix of all of it...
Ep 232: Preston Sprinkle: The Verses Everyone Argues About
Preston Sprinkle joins Levi and Jennie for a candid, hilarious, and deeply thoughtful conversation around his newest book, From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Search for What the Bible Really Says About Women in Leadership. Preston shares what sent him on a years-long, thousand-hour deep dive through Scripture, scholarship, and church history without rushing to “pick a side.”
Along the way, the crew gets real about how these conversations actually land in local churches: the tension, the backlash, the nuance, and the very human emotions involved. From Jesus’ surprising elevation of women, to the “problem passages” like 1 Timothy 2...
Ep 231: Tim Tebow: If The Tree Could Speak
Tim Tebow is back—and this time he’s bringing full-on dad energy. Tim shares the surreal (and hilarious) realities of becoming a father to Daphne Raine, from driving home like a hyper-cautious grandpa to realizing how instantly responsibility rewires your whole brain. Along the way, Levi and Jennie soak up Tim’s reflections on what fatherhood has already taught him about God’s voice in chaos, and how love turns into action.
Then the conversation turns tender and powerful as Tim opens up about his new book If the Tree Could Speak—a poetic, perspectiv...
Ep 230: Ed Newton: Why Not You?
Pastor Ed Newton joins Levi and Jennie for a conversation that’s equal parts hilarious, holy, and deeply healing. From mutual half-Filipino spouses (and the great “Tagalog” debate) to the way Ed grew up as the primary interpreter for his deaf parents, this episode is packed with stories that will make you laugh—and then suddenly swallow a lump in your throat.
Ed opens up about the hidden “not enough” loop that can follow even the most fruitful ministry, the moment (December 26, 2023) he didn’t want to live anymore, and how God met him in the rebuild th...
Ep 229: Reacting to Your Hot Takes: Live
Levi and Jennie are back with a LIVE hot-takes edition—reacting to spicy “unpopular opinions” from the Lusketeers and letting the conversation do what it does best: swerve into laughter, rabbit trails, and the occasional “wait… is this actually deep?” moment.
From fish (unless it’s sushi) to airplane toe etiquette, from bowling germs to Disney adults, the banter stays playful—but it also turns thoughtful when the topic shifts to parenting, phones, and the tension between conviction and Christian liberty. Expect strong opinions, zero chill, and at least one memorable chemistry lesson: iron oxide.
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Ep 228: Jacob Coyne: Ponies on a Dirt Bike Track
Jacob Coyne—founder of Stay Here—joins Levi and Jennie for an honest, hope-filled conversation about suicide prevention, mental health, and what it looks like to love people like Jesus when they’re hurting. This episode goes deep, but it’s also packed with practical help and real stories of lives being saved.
You’ll hear how Stay Here equips churches, schools, and students to recognize warning signs, start the conversation, and take action—plus why purpose, community, and courage matter more than we think. And if you’re listening and you’ve been battling dark thoughts, p...
Ep 227: Alex & Henry Seeley: “He’s Not a What—He’s a Who”
Alex and Henry Seeley (The Belonging Co) are back for a wide-open catch-up that somehow hits everything—from family life and church growth in Tennessee to new music, new campuses, and what it’s like building a multi-location church with video preaching.
Then the conversation turns holy (and hilarious) as Alex shares about her upcoming book The Divine Counselor—a fresh, needed look at Holy Spirit as a Person, not just a symbol. And Henry tells the unforgettable story of a midnight drive that became a defining encounter… complete with “walking” Holy Spirit into their home.
Ep 226: Kait & JJ Tomlin: Your Checklist Is the Problem
Kait and JJ Tomlin (the couple behind Heart of Dating) join Levi and Jennie for a hilarious, super-helpful conversation about what dating looks like right now—and why so many women feel frustrated while so many men feel shut down. From “80% isn’t enough” expectations to the weird ways dating apps have turned people into filters and checkboxes, they get real about what’s happening in the church and what actually helps.
Along the way, they unpack what to look for beneath the surface (hello, teachability + humility), why “trajectory” matters more than perfection, and how to think about...
Ep 225: Grayson & Jezlyn Bearden: Healing in the Light
Grayson and Jezlyn Bearden join Levi and Jennie for a conversation that starts with real-life parenting hilarity (minivan life, sleep training, and surviving “three under three”) and quickly turns into something deeply powerful: what it looks like to walk through addiction, betrayal, and restoration—together.
With honesty and hope, the Beardens share their redemption story, the difference between rushing back to a platform vs. getting truly healthy, and the practical road of recovery (community, accountability, and walking in the light). If you’ve ever felt like your story is too messy to be meaningful, this episode...
Ep 224: Jonathan Pokluda: An Exorcism in Aspen
Jonathan Pokluda sits down with Levi and Jennie for a conversation that’s equal parts laugh-out-loud and deeply grounding. JP unpacks his 16-day hospital saga—how it started with a leg not working right, turned into a diagnosis of transverse myelitis, and somehow included an unforgettable “marriage moment” that belongs in the Hall of Fame.
From spiritual warfare to being aware without being afraid, and what JP learned while researching Your Story Has a Villain—including the country club moment in Aspen that made everything feel painfully real. Plus: Halloween, discernment, and even the surprisingly practical...
Year-End Laughs & New-Year Faith
The Lusko kids join Levi and Jennie for a cozy, hilarious, end-of-2025 family episode—full of memories, real talk, and the kind of side comments only siblings can pull off. Together they look back on the year’s big moments: college life, tennis wins, learner’s permits, a meaningful baptism, and the wild joy of serving together.
You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes of the Bolivia mission trip (including travel chaos and a few very memorable mishaps), plus a rapid-fire stroll through favorite podcast episodes, sermon series that hit home, and the books/music that shaped the year...
Ep 223: Martin Smith: Songs, Seasons, and Surrender
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Delirious? frontman and worship pioneer Martin Smith joins Levi for a heartfelt conversation about music, calling, and the long road of faith. Martin shares how a random suggestion from his dad led him from cricket dreams to a secondhand guitar, a Holy Spirit encounter at nineteen, and early worship songs like “Lord, You Have My Heart” and “I Could Sing of Your Love Forever.” They trace the unlikely British wave of worship that swept the world, how Delirious? broke all the “rules,” an...
Ep 222: Max Lucado: Taming Your Thoughts & Finding True Hope
Best-selling author and pastor Max Lucado joins Levi and Jennie to talk taming your thoughts, grandparent joy, and the kind of hope that actually holds. Max shares the wild family headline—three daughters pregnant at once—and how becoming “Papa Max” has reshaped his rhythms and perspective.
They dive into Max’s new book, Tame Your Thoughts: Three Tools to Renew Your Mind and Transform Your Life, walking through “picky thinking,” spotting the “UFOs” (untruth → false narrative → overreaction), and the practice of uprooting lies and replanting truth. The conversation gets practical on media intake, the real brain/relationship fallout o...
Ep 221: Live Q+A w/ Debra Fileta
Licensed counselor and author Debra Fileta joins Levi and Jennie for a live Q&A on building emotionally healthy homes—whether you’re single, married, or knee-deep in carpools. We kick off with Debra’s new picture book for littles, “Any Day Emotions,” and how naming feelings (even the tricky ones like guilt and jealousy) helps kids learn what to do with them. We also talk about Levi’s new tween book, “Don’t Worry, Warrior,” and why story-driven teaching sticks with 8–12-year-olds.
From there, it’s a fast-paced, heartfelt session tackling real questions: consistent toddler discipline without losing connecti...
Ep 220: Bear Grylls: Finding God Beyond the Edge
World-renowned adventurer, author, and TV host Bear Grylls joins Levi and Jennie Lusko for an unforgettable conversation about courage, faith, and what really matters most. From Man vs. Wild to his newest book The Greatest Story Ever Told, Bear opens up about the challenges of fame, the power of vulnerability, and how the wild continues to point him back to God.
Together, they talk about grief, resilience, and the sacred beauty of connection — from Bear’s adventures with world leaders to the quiet strength he’s found through family and faith. You’ll laugh, tear up, and...
Ep 219: Phil & Mallory Wickham: Home Before the Stage
Worship leader and songwriter Phil Wickham is back—this time with his wife Mallory, who pulls back the curtain on life at home while Phil is on the road. From privacy and boundaries to joyful chaos with kids, they talk honestly about the unseen sacrifices that make visible ministry possible.
You’ll hear the story of their relationship (from hesitant boyfriend to wholehearted husband), the reality of Summer Worship Nights—miracles, momentum, and whooping cough—and the everyday stuff: mice in the garage, sprinter van shenanigans, and why a five-gallon bucket is elite family gear. It’s ten...
Ep 218: Josiah Queen: From “I Am Barabbas” to Mount Zion
Singer-songwriter Josiah Queen joins Levi and Jennie for a warm, joy-filled conversation about his faith, marriage, and music. From writing “I Am Barabbas” to exploring national parks with his wife, Trinity, Josiah opens up about how worship, creativity, and everyday life all weave together into his walk with God.
They swap stories about summer tours, cold plunges, and close encounters with buffalo in Yellowstone — plus why Josiah believes his best songs come straight from scripture stored in his heart. It’s an inspiring, down-to-earth episode that celebrates calling, consistency, and God’s surprising sense of humor.
...Ep 217: Shawn + Jill Johnson: Live from MVMNT'25
In this moving and deeply personal episode, Levi and Jennie sit down with Shawn and Jill Johnson to talk about their new book Kiss the Fire—a message born straight out of pain, perseverance, and the unwavering hope they’ve found in Jesus. Shawn opens up about his journey with Parkinson’s and the moment everything changed with one doctor’s appointment, while Jill shares what it looks like to cling to faith when life takes an unexpected turn.
Together, the Johnsons reveal how “kissing the fire” has become more than just a phrase—it’s...