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How will the Hawks handle Wharfie Time?
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#54
Yesterday at 7:00 PM

The “real finals” start now according to our resident tipping experts, Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan. Fremantle will be warm favourites at home to Hawthorn, but will they be able to handle the pressure of expectation from their parochial fans? Geelong face the buoyant Blues, who’ve had the wood on them of late. The depleted Swans host the Lions, and Adelaide coach Matthew Nicks is also under the pump as his team takes on the Bulldogs.

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Their halo slipped: The Sydney Swans' fall from grace
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#53
Last Monday at 6:56 AM

Pressure mounts on the depleted Swans on and off the field ahead of their qualifying final against the Brisbane Lions. Scott Pendlebury walks out on the heartbroken Magpies after 442 games to become a Sun, the Bulldogs breathe a sigh of relief and Carlton's Josh Fraser juggernaut rolls on. September is almost here and it's all happening in the AFL. Luckily, we've got Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson to make sense of it all.

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Wild times ahead
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#52
08/26/2026

The wildcard finals pit the Western Bulldogs versus Collingwood and Melbourne against Carlton. Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan run their discerning eye over both games. After sitting atop our tipping contest all season, they suddenly find themselves in fierce disagreement on both games. It’s sudden-death time on the field and high-risk strategies off it, as our experts debate who will win and why, while also vying for tipping supremacy.

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The open secret about the Sydney Swans
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#51
08/24/2026

It's a shameful time for the Sydney Swans. Michael Gleeson says the latitude given to their players has been an open secret among rival clubs, while Caroline Wilson and Peter Ryan say the Swans have lost the moral superiority they once carried because of the behaviour of five players at East Melbourne's Pullman Hotel. The Swans are also set to lose a key off-field figure, with Mark McVeigh poised to become Essendon coach, beating his former teammate James Hird to the job in charge of the wooden spooners.

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A minefield for tipsters
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#50
08/19/2026

The Swans are in turmoil and North Melbourne are finishing the season strongly. Collingwood’s kids have delivered, but can they take it up to the mighty Brisbane Lions? Fremantle have nothing to play for, and a number of clubs are looking to give their battered stars a rest before the wildcard games and finals. It’s the final round of the home and away season, and while the AFL’s top 10 might be locked in, AFL tipping competitions across Australia are going down to the wire. Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan are on hand to help make sense of it...


Pendlebury might play on in 2027, and why it might not be with Collingwood
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#49
08/17/2026

Scott Pendlebury has played more AFL games than anyone, all for Collingwood, but Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson identify the rival club where he might get a swansong and why it would make sense. In a remarkable round of football, we got two draws at the weekend - Hawthorn vs Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs vs Carlton. And with the wildcard matches looming, there’s plenty going on in the AFL for our podcasters to talk about.

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September comes early, Cats face ‘banana-peel’ game
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#48
08/13/2026

With two rounds left in the home and away season, there are a number of crunch games this week for Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan to preview. The Cats head to Marvel Stadium for the first time this year, where they take on the in-form Kangas, and the Crows are out to upset the Dockers.

Collingwood and Hawthorn lock horns in an MCG blockbuster, and although St Kilda need a win to keep their slim finals hopes alive against the amped-up Tigers, Carlton’s equation against the Bulldogs is simple; win and you’re in.

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AFL chair 'needs to stand aside’ over concussion contract saga
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#47
08/10/2026

As Geelong and the AFL sift through the messy business of Jake Kolodjashnij’s concussion waiver, Caroline Wilson says it’s time for league chairman Craig Drummond to take a leave of absence. Fellow panellists Jake Niall, Sam McClure and AFLW champion Libby Birch also weigh in with their thoughts on the saga that is the talk of the footy world. Meanwhile, Josh Fraser’s momentum as Carlton coach is undeniable, Steven King has Melbourne in premiership contention and the AFLW season starts in style.

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Hawthorn’s chance to prove their premiership credentials
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#46
08/05/2026

Can the Hawks make a statement at the Gabba, or will the Lions bounce back from last week’s stinging loss to Carlton? With tipping supremacy on the line, Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan disagree on how this monumental swing game will play out. The Sunday-night clash between St Kilda and Carlton is also a bone of contention, while Collingwood face a “danger game” in the west and Fremantle get a rare dress rehearsal at the MCG. It’s round 22, and as tipping competitions draw towards a close, you’ve come to the best place for advice on making your move...


Essendon to announce their new coach next week
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#45
08/03/2026

Our podcasters Sam McClure, Caroline Wilson and Jake Niall give the latest word on coach searches as Carlton and the Bombers narrow down the list of candidates. The groundswell of support for Josh Fraser is growing after the Blues' statement win over the reigning premiers, while Essendon's process and political history comes under scrutiny. The pressure is ramping up on North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson, with former West Coach premiership coach and Roos premiership player Adam Simpson in the wings. Plus, the impact of Richmond's rare win, the "Amnesia Football League", the return of AFLW, and the AFL coach...


The milestone that will lift the Blues
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#44
07/29/2026

Carlton take on the reigning premiers who are riding a seven-game winning streak, and our tipsters expect the the Blues to come out breathing fire for captain Patrick Cripps' 250th match. But is that emotion enough to tip the Blues? It's moving round, and there are plenty of 50-50 clashes at play in round 21. The battle of Charlie Curnow against former teammate Jack Silvagni takes centre stage, as does Christian Petracca's first match against the Demons. Plus, the "stinker" that's a toss of the coin.

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Former Carlton star Sam Docherty on when fans boo, teammates clash and Josh Fraser
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#43
07/27/2026

Our podcasters are joined by special guest Sam Docherty, with plenty to discuss after a dramatic round 20. He gives a player's insight into the booing of Magpie Isaac Quaynor, the heated on-field exchange between Suns Christian Petracca and Leo Lombard, and what Josh Fraser would bring to Carlton as coach. Plus, how the Saints ran out of runway for injured star Max King, what no one saw coming from veteran Hawthorn forward Jack Gunston, and a blunt assessment of Collingwood's premiership chances after their sixth consecutive win. 

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The clash that could shape the season
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#42
07/22/2026

Melbourne make a rare appearance in the Friday night prime-time slot against perennial contenders Geelong, and our tipsters Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan are divided. Plus, the Blues' crucial clash against Gold Coast who are set to lose a key forward at season's end, the blunt assessment of Essendon against old rivals Hawthorn, and the Jekyll and Hyde side you'd only tip if you were desperate.

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The inside story on Hinkley's appointment as Tassie Devils coach
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#42
07/20/2026

The Tasmania Devils made the first move in this season’s coaching race, appointing Ken Hinkley as their inaugural coach.

Our podcasters Sam McClure, Caroline Wilson and Jon Pierik delve into what this means for John Longmire and Nathan Buckley and the two clubs still searching for a coach.

Plus, the Demons raise the bar, the Pies are charging, relief for the Bombers, Max King's comeback, the Suns' bad week, and more.

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The inside story of a coaching coup 17 years in the making.

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Courage required: It's time tipsters made their move
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#41
07/15/2026

Carlton played dumb in the wet last week, but have their best chance in sometime of beating their old enemy Collingwood in round 19.

The question Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan pose to tipsters is whether this is the game to take a risk on as they seek to salvage their season.

If not, can North Melbourne upset Melbourne at Marvel, can St Kilda break their drought in Geelong, will the Crows topple Sydney and what are the chances of Gold Coast rectifying their fall against the Western Bulldogs?

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Richmond on the watch list, and Hardwick has 'lost it'
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#40
07/13/2026

After leaving the Tigers in a hole, that’s now getting deeper, to play with “new toys” up north, Damien Hardwick has written off the Suns’ finals chances. Caroline Wilson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure question what message that sends to his players.

They also discuss Cats carnage, Bomber voting blocs, coaching manoeuvres, Marcus Bontempelli’s duels with Nick Daicos and Harley Reid and whether the AFL’s biggest stars get paid enough.

Oh, and we debate whether South Australian footy fans should be more insulted about being called “peanuts” or “nuffies”.

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‘Less reliable than V/Line' - the Roos are a tipster’s nightmare
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#39
07/08/2026

The top-of-the-table clash between Fremantle and Sydney is the perfect scenesetter for round 18, with a host of games to challenge AFL tipsters. Peter Ryan tells guest panelist Sam McClure he’s been burnt too many times by North Melbourne, so will be tipping Collingwood to beat them on Friday, while the GWS vs Geelong game and the battle between Cartlon and Hawthorn are pivotal for this year’s finals race and also for many tipping competitions across the country.

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AFL bends rules but still botches Maynard, Miller penalties
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#38
07/06/2026

As the fallout from the fiery clash between Gold Coast and Collingwood continues, Sam McClure, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson argue Brayden Maynard and Touk Miller should have been suspended for umpire contact. They also discuss the "rockstar" momentum gathering behind James Hird's campaign for the Essendon coaching job, while Josh Fraser and Steven King show the benefits of a thorough apprenticeship. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera's scintillating form, Jeremy Cameron's underwhelming performances and the question of where Lachie Neale will play in 2027 are also on our agenda.

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Bonus episode: The life and, sometimes, perilous times of an AFL runner
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#37
07/04/2026

The AFL is rare in world sport for having people running out onto the field of play, during play, to dispatch messages from the coach.

They are the conduit between the coach and the players in real time. Not all messages arrive as they were sent, and the messages that go back to the coach are seldom delivered.

In a Real Footy bonus episode, host and senior sports writer Michael Gleeson interviews Brendan Riseley, who ran in more games, for more clubs, and more coaches than anyone else in the game.

 

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Hallelujah! We’re back to nine games
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#36
07/01/2026

The bye rounds are over and there’s some intriguing games for Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan to review in round 17. It all kicks off with Geelong hosting Brisbane in a grand final rematch. Our tipsters suspect the Swans have been worked out ahead of their game against the Bulldogs. Gold Coast versus Collingwood shapes as a genuine swing game, Carlton chase seven wins in a row, Fremantle try to keep their winning streak alive, the Hawks are out to protect their Launceston fortress and the Saints hope to keep Essendon’s losing streak running. Plus, our tipsters ask whet...


The Tigers could be the stalking horse for Zak Butters
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#35
06/29/2026

Zak Butters’ intentions seem clear, but Port Adelaide will drive a hard bargain for their star midfielder. Sam McClure, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson say the Western Bulldogs remain his most likely destination, but aren’t discounting the Tigers from entering the negotiations. As for the Blues and Bombers, they’re ramping up their respective searches for a coach, and on the Gold Coast it’s the same old sorry tale for the Suns as we run our eye over all the action from round 16 of the AFL season.

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A tense watch for Collingwood
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#34
06/24/2026

The Magpies sit outside the top 10 and plenty of questions have been asked about their list. Which Richmond will confront them this week: the plucky fighters or footy fodder? Our podcasters Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan dissect round 16, the last of the mid-season bye rounds.

 

 

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Music to Carlton’s ears
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#33
06/22/2026

The Blues have found their voice under interim coach Josh Fraser, but their honeymoon ain’t over yet, according to Sam McClure, Jake Niall and Peter Ryan. The question now is what to do about Fraser. St Kilda, meanwhile, are seeking answers after a dark day against the Dogs, Hawk Jack Ginnivan escapes a striking suspension and the rampaging Dockers are grappling with the question of whether their form is simply too good for this time of year.

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Sam Mitchell was spewing but will the Hawks over-correct?
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#32
06/17/2026

Round 15 delivers some tantalising contests. Ladder leaders Fremantle host the only team to beat them so far this season, Geelong. Melbourne strive for a win away from the MCG against the in-form Crows. The disappointing Suns host the Hawks, who’ve had a week to stew over their last performance, and Marvel Stadium co-tenants St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs renew their rivalry. Thankfully, we’ve got Andrew Wu and Danny Russell on hand to make sense of it and help footy tipsters find some winners.

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AFL footy boss Greg Swann on umpiring, wild-card finals and the Tasmania Devils
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#31
06/15/2026

The AFL executive general manager of football visits the Real Footy studio for an in-depth chat on all the big issues in the game with Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure. From the state of umpiring to contentious rules, the video-review system, draft concessions, the impending arrival of the Tasmania Devils, the struggles of Carlton and Essendon and the introduction of wild-card finals, nothing’s off the table in this broad-ranging discussion.

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Demons seek vengeance, Roos must rebound
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#30
06/10/2026

Essendon have already beaten Melbourne once this season. Can they do it again? And how will the Roos recover from their embarrassing performance last week in Bunbury? Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan preview round 14, highlighting the games where tipsters can get one up on their rivals.

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Neale said play on, Kozzie did just that
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#29
06/09/2026

Kysaiah Pickett followed Neale’s Daniher’s mantra to the letter to win the Big Freeze match for the Dees. Harry McKay took the opposite approach, chewing up time to get the Blues home. But will his tactics force an AFL rule review? After round 13 produced six close games and one embarrassing Kangaroos capitulation, Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure have plenty to discuss.

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‘I’ve written off Brisbane’
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#28
06/03/2026

Is the Lions’ season on the skids? One of our panellists certainly thinks so ahead of a huge Q Clash against the Suns. Elsewhere, there are rematches aplenty in round 13 as a number of teams face-off against each other for the second time this season. Among the games Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan run their eyes over are Geelong versus Adelaide, Hawthorn up against the Western Bulldogs and the Big Freeze match on Monday between Collingwood and Melbourne.

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How John Longmire can puncture the James Hird balloon
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#27
06/01/2026

James Hird might have the loudest support, but Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson agree there’s one man who stands above him and all other potential candidates for the vacant Essendon coaching job … if he can be convinced to apply. Carlton clock the “win of the year” under Josh Fraser, Fremantle frank their flag favouritism, St Kilda disappoint again and the football community pays solemn tribute to Neale Daniher. There’s plenty to discuss after round 12.

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Brad Scott ‘didn’t have a chance’
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#26
05/27/2026

Essendon travel west after sacking their coach, teams top up at the mid-season draft and the Giants hook into some ice-cold beers after their remarkable win over the reigning premiers, whose credentials are now under question. Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan run their eye over what’s coming in round 12 of the AFL season.

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SPECIAL EPISODE: Inside the Brad Scott departure
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#26
05/26/2026

As news emerges that Essendon has parted ways with coach Brad Scott, Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall jump in the studio to record a special episode of the Real Footy podcast. Why did the axe fall on Scott, and have the Bombers contradicted themselves? We ask all the big questions raised by this decision, including whether James Hird will throw his hat in the ring and who might be the other candidates for the job?

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Is Brad Scott on borrowed time at Essendon?
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#25
05/25/2026

Caroline Wilson expects the Bombers will say bye-bye to their coach by the bye round, but fellow panellists Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall think Brad Scott has more time than that to lift his embattled club. And what does the coaching merry-go-round mean for Luke Beveridge? Our panelists have a left-field suggestion for the Western Bulldogs coach. Plus, we review all the major talking points from round 11.

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How the Pendlebury party insults the Eagles
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#24
05/20/2026

West Coast have been framed as the “Washington Generals” in Collingwood’s plan to celebrate Scott Pendlebury’s record-breaking game. Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan ponder their chances of ruining the occasion with an almighty upset. Plus they preview the big match between the Cats and Swans, and explain why it’s time for the Saints and Kangaroos to take a scalp.

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Upset wins for Blues, Dees, and the young star who terrifies Caroline Wilson
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#23
05/18/2026

Carlton taste a rare victory, Melbourne enjoy one against a highly fancied opponent and Collingwood seem more concerned with Scott Pendlebury’s impending milestone than putting wins on the board. Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson debate all the big topics after round 10 of the AFL season, including their thoughts on a rising AFL star who terrifies one of our panellists and reminds another of a Bombers great from the past.

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Cats seek vengeance, Pies to be outpaced
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#22
05/13/2026

Is Geelong’s form good enough to topple the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba in the grand final rematch, and can Carlton bounce back from their week of turmoil after the sacking of coach Michael Voss? Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan ask these questions as they run their eye over all the round-10 AFL matches, including the 30-year reunion of the “merger cup” between Melbourne and Hawthorn and Collingwood’s big challenge against Syddney - “the worst fixture they could possibly have”.

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Pies minced, Dockers convince and a shake-up at City Hall
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#21
05/11/2026

Collingwood's frailties - immediate and long-term - are exposed by Geelong. Fremantle wins over their doubters with a barnstorming win over Hawthorn, and the AFL Commission prepares for a major overhaul. Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson unpack all the big issues in football after round nine and look ahead to the grand final rematch between the Lions and Cats.

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The uproar and the ‘brutal reality’: Inside the Lance Collard case
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#20
05/07/2026

In this bonus episode, Peter Ryan and Danny Russell take an in-depth look at the AFL tribunal after string of controversial cases so far in 2026 have thrust the judiciary back into the spotlight.

We've had a hearing interrupted by an open-house inspection, and another by barking dogs, and we’ve even had a King's Counsel sacked after delivering a judgement that AFL headquarters couldn’t stomach.

To complement a series running in The Age this week, Peter and Danny discuss how and why the judiciary works the way it does, ask what improvements need to be m...


One team's streak is about to end
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#19
05/06/2026

Between them, the Hawks and Dockers haven't lost a game for eight weeks. That will change on Thursday night in Perth. Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan discuss the top-four clash, as well as the big match between Geelong and Collingwood where Scott Pendlebury will match the AFL games record and Tom Stewart will clock up his 200th appearance. But it's the game between Port Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs that causes the fiercest debate between our tipping experts as they discuss all the action coming up in round nine.

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It's Groundhog Day for Voss and his Blues
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#18
05/04/2026

As Carlton's recurring nightmare continues, Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson discuss the chances of coach Michael Voss keeping his job, and name the man most likely to takeover if and when he is jettisoned. Plus, they discuss whether Scott Pendlebury should've played in Collingwood's draw with Hawthorn, the Showdown thriller, the sacking of Melbourne CEO Paul Guerra, why the "AFL needed Richmond to (finally) win", and how a sneaky photo of a whiteboard in the Lions' changerooms showed the Chris Fagan's team is not as humble as they project.

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Friends become foes in Blues' grudge match
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#17
04/29/2026

Tom De Koning and Jack Silvagni take on Carlton for the first time since defecting to St Kilda, Port Adelaide hit the Showdown with the Crows in form, the Pies rest Pendlebury for the big clash with Hawthorn, the Bulldogs enter their match against Fremantle in freefall, North Melbourne are a "sneaky show" in Geelong, the Tigers have a chance to score their first win in the west and Gold Coast are poised to arrest their deplorable record against GWS. There's plenty of tipping strategy for Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan to discuss ahead of round eight of the...