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A serial killer was on the prowl during the summer of 1975, when Nancy Perry Baird vanished from the gas station where she worked. Police pinned Nancy's disappearance on Ted Bundy, even though no evidence tied the notorious killer to the case. Five decades later, a former police officer's daughter listened to an episode of COLD about the Nancy Baird case. She heard her father quoted and realized a dark secret from their past might be the key to solving the Nancy Baird cold case. The first two episodes drop September 23, 2026. New episodes each Wednesday. Share your thoughts: Instagram Facebook Reddit Epis...

About a year after Susan Cox Powell disappeared from her home in West Valley City, Utah, a man entered a mom-and-pop bookstore one town over and stabbed the owner of the shop to death. The November, 2010 murder of Sherry Black was an inverse of the Susan Powell case: a body and physical evidence, but no suspect. It took police a decade before investigative genetic genealogy led them to Sherry Black's killer. That man is now in prison for life. Black's daughter, Heidi Miller, spent a decade of her life trapped in a stage of suspended grief. Heidi didn't know who...

A 3-year-old boy wanders away from camp in the Uinta Mountains, leading to a panicked search. Uinta Triangle host Dave Cawley covered the case of Benjamin Myrup's disappearance when it happened. In this bonus episode, Dave revisits the case years later to learn what Benjamin's parents experienced behind the scenes of the search.

The word "Uinta" is foreign to many people, but not to native speakers of the Ute language. Larry Cesspooch, a member of the Ute Indian Tribe of the Uintah and Ouray Reservation, shares what the Uinta Mountains mean to himself and his people. Uinta Triangle host Dave Cawley also asks for Larry's help in learning the meaning of other Ute placenames, which are critical in helping keep the Ute language from becoming extinct.

Late in the summer of 1940, a government surveyor named Lynn Simmons vanished near Lamotte Peak in the High Uintas. Crowds of searchers scoured the mountain wilderness but never found any trace of Lynn. Over time, his case was forgotten by all but a few relatives. In this bonus episode, Uinta Triangle host Dave Cawley connects with Lynn's family to bring his memory back to the forefront.

New Podcast from the COLD Team:
Marilyn Koolstra embarks on an unexpected pilgrimage to the place where her husband, Eric Robinson, lost his life in the Uinta Mountains. The journey into the wilderness tests her physical, mental and emotional limits. But Marilyn doesn’t travel alone. Friendships forged through tragedy help carry her through to the end.

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Eric Robinson took 77 photographs on his last hike. Those images, recovered with Eric’s remains in 2016, tell the story of what he experienced on the Uinta Highline Trail. They also contain clues about why Eric diverted from the trail in his final hours. Dave Cawley follows those breadcrumbs to the brink in search of answers.

New Podcast from the COLD Team:
Marilyn Koolstra returns home to Australia without any answers about what happened to her missing husband, Eric Robinson. As months turn to years, she’s forced to accept the awful reality of his death at some unknown place in the Uinta Mountains. But an accidental discovery in those mountains will one day stun everyone involved in the search for Eric.

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The last glimmers of hope fade as the search for Eric Robinson enters its final stage. The Duchesne County sheriff, running out of time and money, makes one last push to find him. Searchers brave the weather and the wilderness in the hopes of sending Eric’s wife, Marilyn Koolstra, home to Australia with answers about her husband’s fate.

New Podcast from the COLD Team:  As news coverage of the search for Eric Robinson spreads, a Boy Scout leader tells of spotting Eric far off the Uinta Highline Trail. This encounter along Yellowstone Creek raises questions about Eric’s state of mind, and expands the search area to include an even greater swath of High Uintas Wilderness. Was Eric lost? Uinta Triangle host Dave Cawley poses a new theory.

New Podcast from the COLD Team: The wife of missing trekker Eric Robinson flies halfway around the world, from Australia to Utah, in search of her husband. A rural sheriff struggles to organize an effective rescue across the vast expanse of the High Uintas Wilderness Area. An unlikely meeting along the Uinta Highline Trail brings Eric’s friends into contact with some important new allies at Dead Horse Pass.

New podcast from the COLD team: Eric Robinson doesn’t show up at the end of the Uinta Highline Trail. Eric’s friend reports him missing, kicking off a search-and-rescue mission. Marilyn Koolstra, meanwhile, feels powerless to help her husband from half a world away. Uinta Triangle host Dave Cawley sets off on his own solo hike, looking for clues about Eric’s disappearance.

New podcast from the COLD team: Eric Robinson wanted to hike the world’s greatest trails. He was happiest when spending weeks in the wild, and he often went out alone. Eric’s wife, Marilyn Koolstra, supported him in this goal. But the situation changed when Eric went missing on a solo trek to the Cascade Saddle in New Zealand. This episode traces the origins of Eric Robinson’s passion for trekking, the past traumas he tried to soothe in nature, and the midlife romance that brought Marilyn into his life.

New podcast from the COLD team: Eric Robinson forges a new friendship on the John Muir Trail, while an old friendship frays under stresses of the trail. From the High Sierra to the Himalaya, Eric’s aspirations in the outdoors continue to grow. His wife, Marilyn Koolstra, accompanies Eric on some of his adventures. But a rift emerges when Eric insists on going out alone after a few close calls with death in the mountains.

Susan Cox Powell disappeared 15 years ago. The day after she turned up missing, her four-year-old son Charlie Powell spoke to a detective from the West Valley City, Utah police department. Charlie told the detective his mommy had joined him, his little brother Braden and their dad, Susan’s husband Josh Powell, on a camping trip. But Charlie also said Susan didn’t come home. She stayed “where the crystals are.” In this special bonus episode, we explore what Charlie was trying to tell us about Susan’s fate. We also speak with forensic interview specialist Brianna Martinez about how the approach t...

Police in West Valley City, Utah found a charred clump of metal hidden in the back of Josh Powell’s minivan on the day after Susan Powell first came up missing. They suspected it was evidence, but could never identify it. Now, on the 15th anniversary of Susan’s disappearance, we reveal the likely origin of that mystery metal evidence. In this special bonus episode, you’ll also hear from Andrew Robinson, a witness who’s never before spoken publicly about what he saw in the days before Susan vanished. For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of polic...

The man who killed Joyce Yost wins a major victory in court, seeing his death sentence overturned for a second time. It all boils down to one line of questioning at Doug Lovell's 2015 trial. Cold host Dave Cawley attended oral arguments before the Utah Supreme Court and discusses the stunning decision with Talking COLD's Amy Donaldson.

COLD discovers an odd rock pile in the mountains. It looks like a possible grave. Detectives head into the hills, believing the rock pile could hold evidence related to the disappearance of Sheree Warren. In this bonus episode of COLD season 3, you’ll join investigative journalist Dave Cawley on the mountain near Utah’s Causey Reservoir and hear exactly what happened as detectives and CSI excavated beneath the rocks. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools fo...

Ten years before Sheree Warren disappeared, another young mother vanished from her workplace in the suburbs of Ogden, Utah. Nancy Perry Baird’s case shares many similarities with Sheree Warren’s. Both were young mothers, recently divorced, working to support themselves. Police in both cases theorized a serial killer might be responsible. To this day, many of Nancy Baird's own relatives believe Ted Bundy abducted and killed her; a claim Bundy denied. Cold has obtained exclusive access to the Nancy Baird case files. In this bonus episode of Cold season 3, journalist and host Dave Cawley uncovers new evidence that illuminates Ted...

Amy and Sheryl sit down with Cold host and investigative reporter Dave Cawley to ask him your burning questions about Cold season 3, The Search for Sheree Warren. What about the jacket Sheree was wearing? And why didn’t police look harder at the last known person to see Sheree before she disappeared? Amy and Sheryl also discuss ethical questions with Associate Professor of Journalism at Weber State University, Dr. Jean Norman.

If you get an unsolicited sexual call or nude picture sent to you, is that a crime? You may be surprised by the answer. One of the suspects in the disappearance of Sheree Warren in 1985 was caught making lewd phone calls to women multiple times. Do these types of crimes often escalate to other, more aggressive behaviors? Joining hosts Amy Donaldson & Sheryl Worsley for the discussion on this edition of Talking Cold: prosecutor and division director of the Salt Lake County Special Victims Unit Anna Rossi Anderson and former FBI profiler and host of the Killer Psyche & Killer Psyche Daily...

Who handles your case if you go missing or are murdered? Talking Cold is the after-show podcast that dives into the key issues raised in COLD. Season 3 of COLD tells the story of Sheree Warren, who disappeared from Salt Lake City, Utah in 1985. Her case remains unsolved today, partially because of police squabbles over jurisdiction. Talking Cold hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley ask retired Salt Lake County Sheriff Aaron Kennard and former Roy, Utah police chief Carl Merino why police egos and invisible borders sometimes get in the way of solving crimes.

Cary Hartmann returns to Ogden after leaving prison, only to face fresh suspicion. Charles Warren’s health declines, leaving him unable to clear up lingering questions. The Cold team pieces together the evidence to provide the most likely scenario in the unsolved cold case disappearance of Sheree Warren. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this episode: https://th...

A human skull is discovered on a hillside next to a busy Utah highway. Roy City police detective John Frawley digs into an abandoned box of Sheree Warren case files. Sheree’s ex-husband, Charles Warren, botches an opportunity to clear himself as a suspect in her disappearance. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.co...

Two pivotal recordings are revealed: Cary Hartmann's police interview about Sheree Warren and a secret interrogation of Cary’s brother, Jack Hartmann. Investigator Shane Minor looks for the missing piece he needs before he can arrest Cary. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-8-fool-me-once/ Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-t...

Investigator Shane Minor heads up the mountain behind Causey Reservoir in search of Sheree Warren’s remains. Cary Hartmann begins to accept responsibility for the crimes he was convicted of, and at long last agrees to speak with police about Sheree’s disappearance. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-7-purgatory/ Epis...

A jailhouse snitch tells the FBI that Cary Hartmann killed Sheree Warren. Cary tries to convince the parole board he's innocent. Sheree’s family members hold a memorial and have her declared legally deceased. Ogden police detective Shane Minor follows up on a longshot lead in the search for Sheree. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this ep...

Cary Hartmann brings look-alikes to a police lineup in the Ogden City Rapist case. His TV reporter friend Larry Lewis tests the boundaries of journalistic ethics when Cary goes to trial. Police detective Jack Bell receives a letter about Sheree Warren and the TV show “Unsolved Mysteries.” Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org. See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com...

An anonymous caller reports finding a body in the mountains, near Causey Reservoir. Police search, thinking they might find the remains of Sheree Warren. Ogden detectives try to link Cary Hartmann and the lingerie survey phone calls to the Ogden City Rapist, but the case isn’t as simple as it seems. New witnesses place Sheree Warren with Cary on the night of her disappearance. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of se...

A serial rapist is stalking the streets of Ogden, Utah. Police are on the hunt for both the rapist and the source of a string of lingerie survey phone calls. Cary Hartmann turns to psychics and a private investigator in his search for his missing girlfriend, Sheree Warren. Meanwhile, detective Jack Bell begins to learn one of his key suspects is harboring secrets. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence...

The last person known to see Sheree Warren alive describes her final day. Sheree plans to meet her estranged husband Charles “Chuck” Warren after work, but neither Sheree nor Chuck make that meeting. Sheree’s car surfaces weeks later in Las Vegas, Nevada but no one can say how it got there. Police detective Jack Bell turns up the heat on Chuck Warren. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be...

It all starts with a phone call. A woman receives a late-night lingerie survey call that turns obscene. The man on the line says he wants to meet her. With the help of police, she sets a trap and captures the caller. But all he receives is a slap on the wrist. Years later, that man will meet and begin dating a young mother named Sheree Warren. Only a few months later, Sheree Warren disappears. Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are...

Sheree Warren left her job in Salt Lake City on an October evening in 1985. She told a coworker she was headed to meet her estranged husband, Charles Warren, at a car dealership, but she never made it. Sheree vanished. When her car mysteriously surfaced weeks later, hundreds of miles away in Las Vegas, no one could say how it got there. Season 3: The Search for Sheree follows two suspects: Sheree's estranged husband Charles, and her new boyfriend Cary Hartmann. Both men raised suspicion for investigators. Investigative journalist Dave Cawley digs into the double lives of these two men and examines...

Breaking down the evidence in the search for the remains of Joyce Yost. Cold takes you to three locations where our investigation suggests Doug Lovell might have buried Joyce Yost on the night he killed her. They are: a concrete dump pit, a mountain cabin and a remote canyon where Doug and Rhonda Lovell were suspected of poaching. Come along as cadaver dogs enter the aspen forest in search of answers in a 36-year-old mystery. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill...

Stories of satanic cults, human sacrifice and horrifying child abuse: the satanic panic that gripped the United States during the 1980s and early '90s came very close to knocking the cold case investigation into Joyce Yost's disappearance completely off the rails. This bonus episode of Cold season 2 examines the reports of satanic ritual abuse that were prevalent at the time. Mike King, a police officer who gained experience investigating cults with his bust of the polygamist "Zion Society" group in 1991, recounts the raid. King also discusses his work probing satanic ritual abuse reports for the Utah Attorney General's Office...

Doug Lovell sent a letter to a journalist, sparking her curiosity. Candice Madsen started looking into the murder of Joyce Yost as a result of Doug's letter, which ultimately led to Cold season 2. Candice joins Amy, Sheryl and Dave Cawley to talk about the lessons they've each taken from the case. Sheryl and Dave then wrap up with big moments from episode 13. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will...

A KSL employee receives a letter after talking about suicide prevention on the radio. It's from a man living on death row, who tells the story of how a little mouse helped him endure a period of darkness and despair. But is that inmate, Doug Lovell, telling an honest story? Or is the letter an attempt to cultivate a character witness? Cold season 2, Justice for Joyce, reaches its finale with a look at where Doug Lovell's appeal stands in 2021, as well as look back at what's changed since the murder of Joyce Yost. Joyce Yost had never met the man...

Life on death row is something we don't hear much about. Our guest is former Utah State prison warden Ken Shulsen. He worked almost every job at the prison including overseeing several high-profile executions. He was once taken hostage in a prison riot. Amy and Sheryl also talk big moments from Episode 12 and Cold host Dave Cawley responds to a voicemail question. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will...

The disappearance of Joyce Yost has had a multi-generational impact, leaving her children and grandchildren trapped in a repeating nightmare of court hearings and appeals. Following Doug Lovell's 2015 conviction for Joyce's murder, the jury faces the question of whether or not to return him to death row. Their only alternative: life with the chance for parole, which would mean Joyce Yost's killer might some day walk free again. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway...

A man who defended Doug Lovell in court has a few things to say about what went down. Hosts Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley spoke with defense attorney Mike Bouwhuis. Cold Host Dave Cawley joins the show for big moments. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation...