Confluence Podcasts
Podcasts from Confluence Investment Management LLC, featuring the periodic Confluence of Ideas series, two bi-weekly series: the Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly and the Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report (new episodes posted on alternating Mondays), and a new monthly Q&A format called the Confluence Mailbag.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – In Warsh, We Trust? (7/20/26)
Financial markets are always trying to anticipate what the Fed's next move may be. Making an accurate prediction may become more challenging under new Federal Reserve Board Chair Kevin Warsh. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to discuss Warsh's strategy and how it might impact investors.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Dragon Boat Diplomacy: China’s Outreach to US Citizens (7/13/2026)
China's use of soft power to create a favorable public perception can reveal goals and tendencies useful for investors. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to share what he learned from a recent visit to the Chinese embassy in Washington.
The Confluence Mailbag – No Solutions, Only Tradeoffs: Investor Self-Awareness, Oil's False Calm, and Fed Opacity (7/7/26)
Bill O'Grady and Mark Keller explore why investors should resist the temptation to abandon their core investment style during periods of market momentum. They unpack how oil prices surprisingly avoided a spike given recent events in the Strait of Hormuz, with a note of caution for future changes as the world adjusts. The conversation turns to Chair Warsh's first FOMC meeting and a likely shift toward reduced Fed transparency, closing with a look at the economic tradeoffs in today's world of no recessions and their long-term outlook for gold.
Confluence of Ideas - The Mid-Year Geopolitical Outlook
In our latest episode, the Confluence Macroeconomic Team breaks down the six geopolitical trends that we believe will shape the international landscape in the second half of 2026. From the disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz and the future of the dollar's reserve currency status, to the government's growing role in AI and the rise of quantum computing, the conversation covers the issues most likely to move markets in the months ahead.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Evolution of the Tech Life Cycle (6/29/26)
Today's tech giants are poised for a maturity shift over the coming years, transitioning from high growth companies into more established market leaders. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to explain why the technology companies of tomorrow may look like the utility companies of today.
Confluence of Ideas – Deja vu for Dividends?
History is rhyming. The last time dividend stocks were this out of favor, the dot-com bubble was peaking. Portfolio Manager Tom Dugan joins Director of RIA Relationships Emily D'Agostino to discuss why that dynamic looks a lot like 1999, what the historical data says about what comes next, and why the Confluence IDEA strategy's quarter-century of consistent philosophy and construction may be precisely what this moment calls for. If history is any guide, patient investors may be about to be rewarded.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – China Cut Its Energy Imports (6/15/26)
There was a bit of welcome news for consumers as world oil prices were moderating in early June even though the Strait of Hormuz remained essentially closed. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to explain why and discuss whether this is just a short-term phenomenon.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Excess Capacity and Policy Change (6/11/2026)
One long trusted economic indicator may no longer reliably indicate a noninflationary environment. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss how governments might be misled and what investors should watch for.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The UAE's Exit From OPEC (6/1/26)
It may have taken a back seat among recent news headlines, but there has been a big shakeup within OPEC. Confluence Advisory Director of Market Strategy Bill O'Grady joins Phil Adler to discuss what this may mean for investors.
The Confluence Mailbag – The End of Hegemony, the Iran Stalemate, and the AI Bubble (5/26/26)
In the latest Confluence Mailbag, Bill O'Grady and Mark Keller revisit their long-held forecast that US hegemony is in decline and consider what a return to a multipolar world order could mean for investors, outlining the shifts and surprises that may shape the evolving geopolitical landscape. The discussion examines the underappreciated economic risks of the Iran conflict, the implications of a 100% debt-to-GDP ratio, and the factors that could challenge their bullish commodity outlook, before closing on a cautionary read of narrowing market breadth as a signal that AI momentum may be nearing its peak.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – The Trade Trilemma Revisited (5/21/2026)
Financial markets appear adjusting to the reality of tariffs. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to discuss what we have learned in the past year and how that impacts investment planning.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Power of Gold (5/20/26)
Something unusual happened to the price of gold as the Iran war broke out. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler today to discuss what happened and what this might mean for the future.
Confluence of Ideas – Reviewing the Asset Allocation Rebalance: Q2 2026
In this episode, Confluence reviews the Asset Allocation rebalance for the second quarter of 2026, featuring a brief economic analysis and insights on asset class and security selection for the firm’s Asset Allocation portfolios. Joining the podcast to recap the rationale for this quarter's changes is Kaisa Stucke, analyst and chair of the Asset Allocation Committee's quarterly investment meetings.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Europe's Push to Close the AI Gap (5/11/2026)
Europe is playing catch up to try to close the AI gap with the United States and China. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to discuss the hurdles and the potential and how investors might profit.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Consensus Builder (4/27/26)
Of what value to investors is a Federal Reserve Board chair who is a consensus builder? Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to tell us why this is important.
The Confluence Mailbag – Dollar Dominance, Private Credit, and the Great Rotation (4/24/26)
In this month's Confluence Mailbag, Bill O'Grady and Mark Keller examine what Iran's shift to yuan-denominated oil transactions means for the dollar's reserve currency status and why viable alternatives remain elusive. They assess widespread concerns around private credit, weigh the broader economic ramifications of the Iran conflict — including the collapse of just-in-time inventory thinking — and close with a discussion of whether the rotation away from mega-cap growth stocks still has legs.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – The War in Iran and the End of US Hegemony (4/20/2026)
The world has seen additional evidence this year that the United States is no longer the dominant power it once was. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss how investors can manage this new reality.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – Wars, Price Shocks, and Inventories (4/17/26)
The war in Iran is an event that is likely to change for the long term the way corporations manage their supply inventories. Think high instead of just in time. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss why this matters a lot for investors.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Strategic Petroleum Reserve: A Primer (3/30/26)
As the Strait Of Hormuz remains closed due to the war with Iran, Western nations have only limited tools to try to keep the price of oil in check. One strategy is to release stored oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Confluence Advisory Director of Market Strategy Bill O'Grady joins Phil Adler to discuss how effective this tool might be.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – From the Shah to the Strait: The US Gamble to Stabilize the Gulf (3/23/2026)
Investors have already experienced dramatic initial volatility, but it appears that the war in Iran may also have significant long-term impacts on the financial markets. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to discuss what these impacts might be.
The Confluence Mailbag – From Iran to AI: Making Sense of Today’s Markets (3/19/26)
Bill O’Grady and Mark Keller tackle some pressing market topics, opening with a nuanced look at how the conflict in Iran might unfold and what current market expectations may be overlooking. They discuss the concentration risk embedded in passive investing and how investors can navigate it, before turning to the shifting dynamics and recent headlines in private credit, including their perspective on the implications for BDCs. The episode concludes with a forward‑looking conversation about whether the rise of artificial intelligence could reshape the financial advice industry.
Confluence of Ideas – The Case for Hard Assets: An Update for 2026 (3/17/26)
Now is a great time to revisit the Case for Hard Assets, an investment area that’s drawing considerable interest these days. Confluence Advisory Director of Market Strategy Bill O’Grady draws on his deep expertise in commodities to explain the asset class and the firm’s Global Hard Assets strategy. He outlines the investment team’s macro-driven decision‑making process, offers insight into the current portfolio, and shares his outlook for the asset class, highlighting the key factors driving renewed appeal for hard assets in today’s market environment.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – Are Long-Term Treasurys No Longer a Safe Haven? (3/16/26)
After the war with Iran began, the dollar recorded its largest weekly advance since November 2024. But another traditional favorite destination for investors seeking safety, long term Treasury bonds, performed very different. In this week's report, Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez asks the question, are long term Treasurys no longer a safe haven? The answer to this question has obvious implications for investment strategies.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – The Geopolitics of US Dollar Stablecoins (3/13/2026)
The increased supply of dollar-backed stablecoins has the potential for wide-ranging impacts, including support for the dollar and an infusion perhaps of demand for US Treasurys. It also is making US banks nervous. Confluence Advisory Director of Market Strategy Bill O'Grady joins Phil Adler to discuss the possibilities and the investment implications.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Dip That Didn’t Bounce (3/6/26)
Younger investors appear to have more influence on the stock market than they used to and there are signs that they are becoming more cautious. Confluence Associate Market Strategist Thomas Wash explores what may be driving this shift and the potential fallout in this week's report. This episode accompanies the written report by the same title, published on March 2, 2026.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – The Great Chinese Purge (2/27/2026)
The subject this week is China and how the purge of government officials going on inside that country might eventually impact investors. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez lends us his perspective, gained from his many years of experience in both the financial and government sectors. This episode accompanies the written report by the same title, published on February 23, 2026.
Confluence of Ideas – Reviewing the Asset Allocation Rebalance: Q1 2026
In this episode, Confluence reviews the Asset Allocation rebalance for the first quarter of 2026, featuring a brief economic analysis and insights on asset class and security selection for the firm’s Asset Allocation portfolios. Joining the podcast to recap the rationale for this quarter's changes is Kaisa Stucke, analyst and chair of the Asset Allocation Committee's quarterly investment meetings.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Warsh Doctrine (2/17/26)
President Trump has made it obvious he wants a Federal Reserve chair who will push for lower interest rates. Does Kevin Warsh fit the bill? Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Walsh joins Phil Adler to tell us the answer is complicated.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – US Foreign Policy: Comparing the New vs the Old (2/9/2026)
A close look at changes taking place in US foreign policy can be revealing from an investment standpoint. Recent changes have been sharp, but it's natural to question their staying power. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez addresses this and related issues in his latest report today comparing the new US foreign policy versus the old.
The Confluence Mailbag – Global Shifts and the Next Market Drivers (2/5/26)
Confluence’s first Mailbag Podcast episode of the year is a wide-ranging conversation on geopolitics and evolving market trends. Bill O’Grady and Mark Keller explore whether Latin America could emerge as a key low-cost producer in a deglobalizing world and the resulting investment opportunities. The discussion also covers current US dollar policy and the challenges of currency forecasting, signs of a meaningful market rotation following years of US large cap growth dominance, limitations of LLMs within the broader AI boom, the forces driving the surge in precious metals, and implications of Canada’s new trade deal with China.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Erosion of Exorbitant Privilege (2/2/26)
Long-term government debt issued by advanced economies seems like a less attractive investment these days for safety conscious investors. In his latest report, Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash calls this "The Erosion of Exorbitant Privilege" for these advanced economies, and Thomas joins Phil Adler to explain why this development has significant implications for investors.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Blocs, Spheres, Empires, and Colonies (1/26/2026)
After a year in office, it is becoming a little bit easier to categorize the Trump administration's foreign policy and to build an investment strategy around it. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler today to discuss his latest report titled "Blocs, Spheres, Empires, and Colonies," making the case that America's foreign policy is evolving to a new kind of imperialism.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Investment Implications of the New US National Security Strategy (1/12/2026)
A new security strategy for the United States delivers a strong message for investors. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to fill investors in.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – America’s AI Buildout and Its Market Risks (1/12/26)
The enormous investment in data centers to support AI development has carried the S&P 500 index to record highs. The index rose more than 16% last year, but this same investment surge may have created some market risks. Confluence Associate Market Strategist and Certified Business Economist Thomas Wash joins Phil Adler to discuss how long this massive investment may continue and what might happen to the broader economy when it ends.
The Confluence Mailbag – Money, Market Risks, and Investing in a Multipolar World (12/29/25)
Bill O’Grady and Mark Keller close out the final episode of the year by examining some key factors shaping markets heading into 2026 — from China’s growing gold purchases and efforts to build an alternative to the dollar system, to what a more dovish Fed could mean for the dollar and bonds. They discuss the risk of earnings disappointment next year, the importance of maintaining investment discipline amid market temptations, and their outlook for hard assets in a world shifting toward a multipolar global order.
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Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – The 2026 Geopolitical Outlook (12/15/2025)
In this episode, members of the Confluence Macroeconomic Team sit down with Phil Adler to assess the geopolitical outlook for 2026. Six big picture trends that are guideposts for Confluence's investment recommendations are discussed including stablecoins, spheres of influence, and data centers.
Confluence of Ideas - 2026 Outlook: Implications of the New Techno-Industrial State
Confluence's official 2026 Outlook anticipates a reacceleration of the economy next year and a low risk of recession. Three of the co-authors of the report, Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez, Advisory Director - Market Strategy Bill O'Grady, and Associate Market Strategist Thomas Wash, join the podcast to examine the main themes of Confluence's expectations and discuss how investors can utilize an outlook piece such as this to review the big picture: where they've been, what the new year has in store, and how they might prepare for it.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – What Catch-Up Economic Reports Say About the AI Boom (12/8/25)
Late arriving economic reports have delivered mixed results on the health of the US economy. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss takeaways for investors.
Asset Allocation Bi-Weekly – The Inflation Adjustment for Social Security Benefits in 2026 (11/17/25)
Social Security has been, over the years, a slowly expanding support prop for the US economy. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss the impact of the Social Security cost of living adjustment for 2026.
Bi-Weekly Geopolitical Report – Meet Sanae Takaichi (10/27/2025)
The policies of the new Japanese prime minister may provide a boost for Japanese stocks. Confluence Chief Market Strategist Patrick Fearon-Hernandez joins Phil Adler to discuss what the election of Sanae Takaichi means for investors.