BiggerPockets Money Podcast

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Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it. Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.

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What to Know Before Hiring a Financial Advisor
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Today at 9:05 AM

How do you choose the right financial advisor? Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench explain what to look for when hiring a financial planner, including AUM vs. flat-fee vs. hourly compensation, CFP credentials, fiduciary status, advisor qualifications, questions to ask, and how to prepare for your first meeting.

If you're considering working with a financial advisor, this episode will help you understand how advisors are compensated, identify potential conflicts of interest, prepare your financial information, and get more value from professional financial planning.

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How Scott & Virginia Trench Think About Goals, Spending and Investing
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Last Friday at 9:05 AM

How do Scott and Virginia Trench actually run their household, set big financial goals, and build toward financial independence together? In this episode, Scott and Virginia pull back the curtain on the systems and conversations that keep their family, finances, and future moving in the same direction.

They talk about their approach to goal setting, weekly household and financial check-ins, dividing responsibilities, and making sure their money decisions support the life they actually want to live. They also dive into their investment strategy, including real estate, stocks, portfolio diversification, and how they adjust their investments as market...


REITs Have Under Performed for 25 Years. Is the Next Decade Different?
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08/11/2026

REITs have underperformed for 25 years, but could the next decade be different? Jussi Askola joins us to look at where REITs stand today, how they are valued, and where investors may find the best opportunities.

We discuss how to value REITs using NAV and FFO, why management quality matters, and which sectors look most attractive, including data centers, cell towers, multifamily, retail, and office. We also compare public and private real estate and explore what could drive REIT returns over the next 10 years.

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Can This 29-Year-Old Couple Retire by 40 With a $2.5M Portfolio?
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08/07/2026

Can a 29-year-old couple with a $1.7 million net worth become work optional by age 40? In this Finance Friday episode, we break down their financial plan after inheriting two rental properties and explore the biggest decision they face: keep investing in real estate, leverage their equity, or shift toward index funds?

We analyze their rental property cash flow, portfolio allocation, tax strategies, and long-term investment plan to determine the smartest path toward financial independence.  Whether you're pursuing FIRE, building wealth through rental properties, or deciding how to invest an inheritance, this episode offers practical insights for making thoughtful l...


There's No "Right" Way to Reach Financial Independence
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08/04/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench react to the biggest takeaways and criticisms from Mindy's recent episode with The Money Guys. Mindy shares her perspective on the conversation, clears up misconceptions, and discusses what financial independence really means from her point of view.

The discussion also explores the judgment that often exists within the financial independence community, how personal values influence investing decisions, and why there is no single path to building wealth. Whether you're pursuing FIRE, growing your investment portfolio, or refining your long term financial strategy, this...


The 5 FIRE Mistakes CFPs See Over and Over
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07/31/2026

On this episode of BiggerPockets Money, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Adrianna Adams, CFP at Domain Money, to discuss some of the biggest mistakes people make on the path to financial independence and early retirement. From chasing the perfect FIRE number to overlooking liquidity and tax planning, Adriana shares the lessons she's learned helping clients build wealth and confidently transition into early retirement. 

They dive into practical strategies for reducing taxes, managing portfolio risk, accessing retirement savings before traditional retirement age, and making smarter decisions around Roth conversions, direct indexing, mortgages, and withdrawal p...


This ALL OUT Entrepreneurial Approach to FI Got him to $5M by 30
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07/28/2026

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Cody Berman to uncover how he achieved financial independence before age 30 and built a $5 million net worth through entrepreneurship, side hustles, real estate investing, stock market investing, and multiple income streams. Cody shares the mindset, strategies, and lessons that accelerated his path to FIRE, from leveraging unfair advantages and embracing failure to building passive income. 

Whether you're pursuing financial independence, looking to grow your income, or searching for practical wealth-building strategies, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help y...


The "Middle Class Trap" Is Real—But We Need a Better Name
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07/24/2026

What is the Middle Class Trap, and how can high earners avoid it on the path to financial independence? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench explain why maximizing income isn't always enough and how smart tax planning can dramatically improve your after-tax wealth. They explore how strategies like Roth conversions, maximizing your 401(k), and thoughtful tax planning can create more flexibility in early retirement. Along the way, they explain how real estate, liquidity, and focusing on your after-tax net worth can play a critical role in reaching financial independence.

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Yes, the Trump Account Belongs in your Financial Order of Operations. Here’s Where.
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07/21/2026

Trump Accounts are one of the newest tax-advantaged investment accounts for children, but where do they fit in your financial plan? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Jeremy Schneider of Personal Finance Club explains how Trump Accounts work, who should open one, how they compare to 529 plans and custodial accounts (UGMA/UTMA), and why they may become an important long-term wealth-building tool for families. You'll learn the rules, contribution limits, Roth IRA rollover opportunities, investment restrictions, financial aid implications, and practical strategies for parents and grandparents looking to build generational wealth.

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The Money Guys Gave Us Advice… Here’s What We’re Changing
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07/17/2026

What did Mindy and Carl Jensen learn from The Money Guys after they reviewed their portfolio? In this recap episode, Mindy and Carl share their biggest takeaways on retirement planning, cash reserves, Roth conversions, tax strategy, and portfolio diversification. They discuss what advice they're putting into action, what they're still debating, and how these lessons could help anyone pursuing financial independence and long-term wealth.

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Should You Choose Coast FI or Go All In on FIRE?
07/15/2026

Is Coast FI the smarter path to financial independence in today's economy? In this episode, Scott Trench and Evan Lawler compare Coast FI vs. traditional FIRE, breaking down the trade-offs between reaching financial freedom as fast as possible or building enough wealth to let compound growth do the heavy lifting. They discuss investing, side hustles, real estate, lifestyle design, and the strategies young professionals can use to achieve financial independence while maintaining flexibility.

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The Money Guys Help us Escape Our 401k Tax Trap
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07/14/2026

In this special episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and her husband Carl head to The Money Guy Show studio for a comprehensive portfolio review with Brian Preston and Bo Hanson. After years of maximizing traditional 401(k) contributions to reduce their tax bill, they've built substantial wealth, but now they're asking an important question: Have they fallen into the middle class trap? Together, they break down Mindy and Carl's investment portfolio, retirement accounts, tax strategy, and long-term financial plan to determine whether they're on the right path.

Whether you're pursuing FIRE, planning for early retirement...


Is My Spending Reasonable? This Data Set Will Tell You
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07/10/2026

Are you actually spending too much, or does it just feel that way because of where you live? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down a new budget benchmarking tool that compares your spending to households like yours using real government data, regional cost-of-living adjustments, fair market rents, childcare costs, and local pricing. They explain the difference between cost of living and affordability, compare high-cost and low-cost cities, and show how housing, transportation, and income all impact your path to financial independence.

You'll learn how to benchmark your own...


Why $500K Is More Important Than $1 Million (Coast FIRE)
07/08/2026

Is $500,000 actually a more important financial milestone than becoming a millionaire? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen sits down with Evan Lawler to explore why reaching $500K early could put you on track for Coast FIRE and potentially grow into millions by traditional retirement. They discuss the power of compound interest, high savings rates, intentional spending, and why financial independence doesn't always mean retiring early.

Mindy and Evan also dive into the psychology of money, including the difference between being frugal and being cheap, building healthy spending habits after years of saving, and...


Should You Stay for the Military Pension? The Math Might Surprise You
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07/07/2026

Military service offers more financial advantages than most Americans realize, but is staying for a 20-year pension always the smartest move?

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Carol and Doug to discuss how military benefits can accelerate financial independence. They cover military pensions, VA disability compensation, TRICARE, reserve retirement, and the opportunity cost of leaving active duty for a civilian career.

Carol shares how she left active duty after five years, joined the reserves, and built wealth through disciplined investing. Doug explains why military compensation...


The Best Early Retirement Withdrawal Strategy (6 Proven Frameworks)
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07/03/2026

Reaching financial independence is only half the battle, knowing how to withdraw your money in early retirement is just as important. The right withdrawal strategy can help you minimize taxes, avoid unnecessary penalties, and make your portfolio last longer.

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down six early retirement withdrawal frameworks. Whether you're planning to retire before age 59.5 or you're already financially independent, you'll learn how to access your retirement savings, reduce your tax bill, and create a withdrawal plan that fits your goals. If you're pursuing FIRE (financial...


Has the FIRE Number Gone from $1M to $2.5M?
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06/30/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench tackle one of the biggest questions in the FIRE movement: Why has the traditional $1 million FIRE goal grown to $2.5 million or more? They discuss how inflation, rising living costs, lifestyle changes, and retirement planning have reshaped what financial independence looks like today.

You'll learn how the 4% rule, healthcare, geography, and spending habits influence your financial independence number. Whether you're pursuing FI or early retirement, this episode will help you determine how much you really need to retire and build a plan that fits your...


Is Investing Ethical? How to Invest Without Compromising Your Values
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06/26/2026

Is investing ethical? Can you build wealth, pursue financial independence, and still invest according to your values? Scott and Mindy tackle one of the biggest questions in personal finance, exploring ethical investing, ESG investing, capitalism, index funds, and the moral trade-offs that come with building long-term wealth. They discuss whether investing in companies like Tesla, Costco, or tobacco companies can ever be ethical and how to think critically about aligning your portfolio with your beliefs.

The conversation also examines whether pursuing financial independence is itself an ethical goal. This episode offers a thoughtful framework for making investment...


The Ultimate Guide to Healthcare Costs for FIRE
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06/23/2026

Healthcare is one of the biggest unknowns in any FIRE plan. If you're considering early retirement, self-employment, or leaving a traditional job, understanding health insurance costs could save you thousands of dollars per year and prevent costly planning mistakes.

In this episode, we break down the Affordable Care Act (ACA) health insurance, premium tax credits, MAGI planning, and how healthcare costs vary by state. We also walk through a healthcare cost estimator tool that can help you project future expenses and build a more resilient financial independence plan.

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Mortgage Rates Jumping from 4% to 8%: What Should This Investor Do?
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06/19/2026

How do you build nearly $1 million in net worth while working seasonally, living intentionally, and creating a lifestyle you actually enjoy? In this episode, Heather shares her remarkable journey from living in a 300-square-foot cabin to building substantial wealth through nursing, guiding, rental properties, and smart financial decisions. We break down her real estate portfolio, income streams, and the challenges that come with balancing financial independence and life goals.

With mortgage rates potentially doubling from 4% to 8%, Heather faces several important decisions: Should she pay off rental debt, refinance, sell properties, or preserve flexibility for a future sabbatical...


The Financial Independence Step Most People Forget: Estate Planning
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06/16/2026

Most people know they should have an estate plan, but keep putting it off.

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and special guest Carl Jensen sit down with estate planning attorney Skipton Reynolds to break down everything you need to know about wills, trusts, probate, beneficiary designations, powers of attorney, guardianship planning, and estate taxes.

Whether you're a young adult, a parent, a high-net-worth investor, or someone pursuing financial independence, estate planning is one of the most important financial moves you'll ever make. Learn how to protect your assets, avoid costly...


Katie Wants to Quit Her Job. Can They Afford It?
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06/12/2026

In this Finance Friday episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench analyze whether Katie can step back from work while still making sure that her husband, Jesus, can retire early at 50. They break down the FIRE math, withdrawal strategies, healthcare considerations, market risk, pension benefits, and the emotional challenges of leaving a high-income career.

Whether you're planning for early retirement, wondering if your portfolio is large enough, or trying to decide when to leave a stressful job, this episode provides practical insights and actionable retirement planning strategies.

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What to Do When Most of Your Wealth Is in Company Stock
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06/09/2026

If you work at a startup or public tech company and have RSUs, stock options, founder shares, or a potential IPO on the horizon, this episode could save you thousands—or even millions—in taxes. Equity compensation can be one of the fastest paths to building wealth, but it can also lead to costly mistakes if you don't understand the tax implications, liquidity opportunities, and diversification decisions involved. That's why we sat down with Equity for the Win founders CJ Sturmitz and founding investor Toby Johnston to discuss how employees and founders can navigate concentrated stock positions and prepare for...


Reach Financial Independence Faster: Backdoor & Mega Backdoor Roth Explained
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06/05/2026

Want to build tax-free wealth even if your income is too high for a Roth IRA? In this episode, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by CPA’s Amanda Han and Matt MacFarland. They break down the Backdoor Roth IRA and Mega Backdoor Roth strategies step-by-step.

You'll learn how the Backdoor Roth works, how to avoid costly tax mistakes, how the pro-rata rule can impact your conversion strategy, and when the Mega Backdoor Roth may allow you to contribute tens of thousands of additional dollars to Roth accounts each year.

Whether you're pursuing FIRE, op...


The Fastest Path to Financial Independence Isn't What You Think | Mrs. Dow Jones
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06/02/2026

Most people think financial independence is all about cutting expenses, but there's only so much you can cut.

In this episode, Haley Sacks, better known as Mrs. Dow Jones, shares the strategies that actually move the needle when it comes to building wealth, reaching financial independence, and creating long-term financial freedom.

We discuss how to increase your income, negotiate higher pay, avoid lifestyle creep, invest with confidence, and build a simple system for managing money. Haley also explains why human capital may be your most valuable asset, how AI is changing career opportunities, and why...


10 Ways to Massively Increase Your Net Worth in One Year (Median Salary)
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05/29/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down practical strategies for doubling your net worth and accelerating your path to financial independence. From reducing fixed expenses and increasing cash flow to investing consistently and growing your income, we cover the core habits and wealth-building systems that can dramatically speed up net worth growth, even if you’re starting from a modest financial position.

Whether you’re pursuing FIRE, early retirement, or simply trying to grow your wealth faster, this episode provides a practical roadmap for increasing your net worth and...


How to Build an Investment Strategy for Financial Independence
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05/26/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Bob Haines joins hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench to explain how to build an investor policy statement and create a long-term investment philosophy for financial independence and early retirement. We break down how FIRE investors can design a personalized investing framework that aligns with their goals, risk tolerance, lifestyle, and withdrawal strategy while avoiding emotional investing during market volatility.

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6 Simple Steps to Financial Independence
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05/22/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down the six foundational principles for building wealth and achieving financial independence. From controlling major expenses and increasing your savings rate to investing strategically and building additional income streams, this episode covers the practical habits that consistently help people grow wealth over time and accelerate their path to FIRE.

Whether you’re just starting your financial independence journey or looking to optimize your wealth-building strategy, this episode provides a simple and repeatable framework for building lasting wealth without overcomplicating personal finance.

To...


Ben Felix Critiques FIRE… And Then Makes the Case for 100% Equities in FIRE
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05/19/2026

In this episode, Ben Felix joins Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to break down his thoughts on the FIRE movement, portfolio design, safe withdrawal rates, and long-term investing. We discuss how to build a FIRE portfolio that balances risk, flexibility, quality of life, and long-term sustainability — without falling into the trap of over-optimization or extreme frugality.

Whether you're pursuing FIRE, early retirement, Coast FIRE, or simply trying to become a smarter long-term investor, this conversation offers an evidence-based framework for building wealth while still enjoying life along the way.

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The Biggest Portfolio Mistakes FIRE Investors Make
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05/15/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down the biggest portfolio mistakes people make on the path to financial independence. From holding too much cash and staying stuck in accumulation mode to ignoring tax optimization, estate planning, and withdrawal strategies, we cover the investing mistakes that can quietly derail long-term wealth building and FIRE success.

Whether you’re pursuing FIRE, Coast FIRE, or traditional retirement, this episode will help you avoid common portfolio mistakes and build a more resilient long-term financial plan.

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How Kyle Built a $4M Real Estate Portfolio Making Less Than $40K
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05/12/2026

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench bring on Kyle Collette to discuss how he achieved financial independence and built a real estate portfolio worth more than $4 million while earning less than $40,000 per year. Through house hacking, rental property investing, frugal living, and strategic relationships, Kyle scaled from small single-family rentals to multi-unit properties across Ohio — proving that building wealth doesn’t require a massive salary.

Whether you're pursuing FI, early retirement, or long-term wealth through real estate investing, this episode offers a practical roadmap for building financial freedom on a mode...


Your FIRE Number Is Probably Wrong — Here’s Why
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05/08/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down the biggest mistakes people make when calculating their FIRE number and planning for financial independence. Many early retirement calculators rely on simplified assumptions like the 4% rule or current spending levels, but real-life retirement planning is far more complicated. This episode covers how healthcare costs, inflation, one-time expenses, and changing lifestyle spending can dramatically impact your true FI number and long-term retirement success.

We also discuss safe withdrawal rates, stress testing your retirement plan flexible income streams, and why many FIRE investors...


Is Small Cap Value Worth It? Ben Felix Explains the Truth About AVUV & Factor Investing
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05/05/2026

On this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Ben Felix to break down one of the most debated topics in long-term investing: small cap value investing. Ben explains the research behind factor investing, the Fama-French multi-factor model, and why investors continue to look at small cap value ETFs like AVUV and Dimensional funds as potential upgrades to traditional index fund portfolios. 

If you've ever wondered whether AVUV, Dimensional ETFs, or small cap value funds can outperform broad market index funds like VTI over the long run, this episode g...


How the Top 1% Are Investing in 2026 (Real Portfolio Data)
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05/01/2026

What are high-net-worth investors actually doing with their money in 2026?

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, we break down the latest asset allocation trends using real portfolio data from Long Angle—a community of high-net-worth investors. From equities and real estate to private credit and alternative investments, this is a behind-the-scenes look at where sophisticated investors are putting capital right now.

Joined by Tad Fallows, Managing Director at Long Angle, we explore how the top 1% are thinking about risk, return, and opportunity—and what it means for your own investing strategy.

Conn...


The Messy Middle of Financial Independence (How to Stay Motivated)
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04/28/2026

The “messy middle” is the longest—and hardest—phase of the financial independence (FIRE) journey. It’s where progress feels slow, motivation dips, and burnout can creep in.

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and Carl Jensen (our guest host for today) break down how to stay consistent, avoid over-optimization, and actually enjoy life while building wealth. From increasing income and investing smarter to designing the life you want before you retire, this is your guide to getting through the messy middle without losing momentum.

If your FIRE journey feels stuck, this episo...


From $69K Debt to Financial Independence in NYC
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04/24/2026

Kim Hunter Borst didn’t start her financial independence journey in New York City—but it’s where everything changed.

After building a high-income life, she and her husband found themselves $69,000 in debt from lifestyle inflation. Instead of leaving NYC, they got intentional—cutting expenses, leveraging a rent-stabilized apartment, and maxing out retirement accounts.

Now, they’ve achieved financial independence and retired early—proving you don’t have to leave a high-cost city to build real wealth.

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Paula Pant Quit Her Job with $25K (Now She’s FI in NYC)
04/23/2026

Paula quit her $32,000 job in 2008—before she’d ever heard of the FIRE movement—with just $25,000 saved to travel the world.

When she came back, she started freelancing and made a pivotal decision: buying a triplex and house hacking. That one move changed everything. Today, she’s fully financially independent in New York City through real estate—all without ever earning more than $32K at her day job.

In this episode, we break down how she did it, the risks she took early on, and the strategy that turned a modest income into long-term financial freedom.<...


She Retired at 39… After Moving to New York City
04/22/2026

Most people think you need to leave expensive cities to reach financial independence. Walli Miller did the opposite.

After discovering the FIRE movement in 2015, Walli Miller moved to New York City—one of the highest cost-of-living cities in the world—and still retired at 39 with her husband, on a combined income under $200K/yr.

In this episode, we break down how they made it work, from intentional spending and leveraging NYC’s free lifestyle to redefining what financial independence actually looks like. If you think FIRE isn’t possible in a high-cost city, this episode might ch...


Coast FI by 30 in a HCOL City (Here’s How He’s Doing it)
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04/21/2026

In this episode, discover how Eli, a 24-year-old living in NYC, is on track to hit financial independence and retire early—despite the city’s high living costs. His strategies and mindset shift challenge common perceptions about NYC being an obstacle to FIRE.

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9 Things No One Tells You About Financial Independence
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04/17/2026

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Carl Jensen (our guest host for the week!) break down 9 financial independence (FIRE) lessons most people don’t discover until it’s too late.

From the hidden downsides of early retirement to spending, purpose, and relationships, this episode covers what actually changes after you reach FI—and how to avoid the mistakes that can quietly derail your life.

Whether you're pursuing FIRE or already financially independent, these insights will help you build a more sustainable, fulfilling life.

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