Play with Matches

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By: UpSpring

Play with Matches is a podcast for the architecture and design industry’s boldest thinkers. Hosted by UpSpring CEO Tiffany Rafii, each episode goes beyond the work itself and into the thinking behind it, exploring the mindset shifts, strategic pivots, and defining moments that spark real change across the built environment.Through conversations with architects, designers, founders, and marketers, Play with Matches examines what happens when you stop following the playbook and start rewriting it.

Amie Shao: Designing Birth Spaces That Change Outcomes
Last Tuesday at 4:00 AM

What if maternal health outcomes are shaped by design decisions?

In this episode of Play with Matches, Amie Shao, Principal and Senior Director at Model of Architecture Serving Society (MASS), explores how architecture and the built environment influence maternal care, health equity, and patient outcomes. Through projects spanning Malawi to Boston, she explains why birth spaces impact trust, dignity, and whether families seek care at all.

This conversation reframes healthcare design in the AEC industry as a critical factor in access, outcomes, and equity.

Model of Architecture Serving Society (MASS) | Show Transcript

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Adaeze Cadet: Better Design Starts with Inclusion
04/21/2026

What if equity isn’t separate from design excellence, but the foundation of it?

In this episode of Play with Matches, host Tiffany Rafii sits down with Adaeze Cadet, Design Principal at HOK, to explore how equity and mentorship shape better outcomes in architecture. From community-centered projects to leadership at the firm level, Adaeze shares why who is included in the process directly impacts the quality of the work.

HOK | Show Transcript

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Avi Rajagopal: Attention is Earned, Not Pitched
04/14/2026

What makes a story earn attention in today’s design media landscape? In this episode of Play with Matches, host Tiffany Rafii sits down with Avi Rajagopal, Editor-in-Chief of Metropolis, to unpack how products, projects, and brands break through—and why most don’t. From editorial judgment and timing to positioning and cultural relevance, Avi shares what separates the pitches that land from the ones that get ignored.

Metropolis | Show Transcript

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Natalie Hartkopf: Sameness is the Real Risk
04/07/2026

What happens when you refuse to follow the industry’s playbook? In this episode of Play with Matches, Natalie Hartkopf, co-owner and chair of Hightower, shares how independence, curiosity, and collaboration have shaped one of the most distinctive brands in contract furniture.

From rethinking product development to challenging trade show norms and pushing for real supply chain transparency, Natalie makes a compelling case for why differentiation—not scale—is the true competitive advantage.

In a market full of lookalikes, sameness isn’t safe. It’s the risk.

Hightower | Show Transcript

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Bruce Becker: Zero Emission Hospitality
03/31/2026

What does it take to turn a forgotten landmark into a blueprint for sustainable hospitality? In this episode of Play with Matches, host Tiffany Rafii sits down with architect, developer, and policy leader Bruce Redman Becker, President of Becker + Becker, to unpack the story behind Hotel Marcel, the first Passive House certified hotel in the United States. From adaptive reuse and integrated design to policy reform and investor alignment, Bruce shares how bold environmental commitments can become a powerful creative and business advantage. 

Becker + Becker | Hotel Marcel | Show Transcript

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Pallavi Dean: Design is Not Enough
03/24/2026

What does it take to build a design voice that cuts through noise and scales globally? In this episode of Play with Matches, host Tiffany Rafii sits down with Pallavi Dean, architect, designer, and founder of Roar, to explore how bold creativity, evidence-based design, and entrepreneurial discipline can work in service of one another. 

From launching Roar out of her spare bedroom in Dubai to leading a studio with projects across continents, Pallavi shares how psychology and business rigor shape spaces that are both imaginative and measurable. For AEC and design leaders navigating growth, visibility, and differentiation, t...


Introducing Play with Matches (Coming March 24th)
03/20/2026

Play with Matches is where the architecture and design industry’s boldest voices come to ignite ideas. Hosted by UpSpring CEO Tiffany Rafii, this podcast explores the campaigns, stories, and mindset shifts sparking transformation across the built environment. Each episode features conversations with architects, designers, marketers, and visionaries who aren’t afraid to strike a match, challenge conventions, and set the industry ablaze.

Season 1 launches on March 24th.

UpSpring is a strategic PR, marketing, and growth partner for firms and product companies shaping the built environment. For more than 17 years, the agency has helped architecture, desi...