Licensed & Unsupervised with Beckee and Naomi

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we welcome back our “supervisor,” Rian DeVeer, for a conversation about identity, high school experiences, and how we all became who we are today.

We talk about growing up in different decades — the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s — and how those environments shaped us.

Rian shares his experience as a trans man, including how he chose his name and what that journey has looked like over time. We also talk about something surprisingly universal — how often people get our names wrong, and how names can carry identity, meaning, and history.<...

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we’re joined by our first official “supervisor” — Rian DeVeer.

We start with origin stories — how we all got to where we are today, how we first met Rian, and the impressions that stuck.

From there, we talk about his experience in beauty school as both a student and a teacher, and how education in the hair industry has evolved across generations.

We get into:

This is a shorter episode of License & Unsupervised while we catch up from a couple missed weeks.

Today we’re talking about something simple but real — what it’s like trying to walk into a hair salon anonymously… and why that’s basically impossible where we live.

We share stories from our time as educators, what it was like teaching and learning at the same time, and how we’ve used ourselves as models for growth behind the chair.

We also talk about:

This is our first guest and he will be on the pod we couldn't be better!

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we continue the conversation about being older in the room — and what that really means in today’s culture.

We talk about pop culture gaps between generations, how apprentices seem to know everything, and how quickly things change when you’re not paying attention.

But this episode goes deeper.

We revisit the foundations of the industry — Vidal Sassoon, Paul Mitchell, the tradition of wearing black — and contrast that with today’s world of dopamine dressing and self-expression.

We also talk honestly about:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we talk about what it really feels like to get older in an industry that constantly celebrates youth.

We start with something simple — dress codes — and how Beckee had to enforce one in beauty school, even though we don’t personally believe in strict dress rules in the salon.

From there, the conversation turns into something deeper: what it means to be professional, how people present themselves on social media, and the difference between being a real person and becoming a “character” online.

We also talk about:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we’re recording from Rian’s room (because… why not), dealing with technology issues, and diving into the reality of being highly creative professionals.

We talk about the Chromadaddy tour, the lessons that come with meeting your heroes, and how the beauty industry continues to evolve through education and community.

We also get into:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we talk about parenting, discipline, and the mental rewiring that happens when you decide to change your life.

We start with childhood stories — Naomi being a biter, Mia going through a biting phase, and the reality that every child develops differently. From potty training to parenting NICU babies, we talk about how much of parenting comes down to understanding a child’s personality and willpower.

Naomi shares what it was like raising babies with colic and living on a NICU schedule, while Beckee talks about working two jobs, managing preg...

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we talk about everything from Diet Coke addiction to what it really means to grow up.

We start with Beckee’s legendary Diet Coke habit and Naomi bringing Mountain Dew to Guatemala before diving into what it was like growing up feral in the 90s — no cell phones, no internet, and very little supervision.

From there, the conversation moves into parenting teenagers, the reality of raising boys, and how watching our kids become adults forces us to grow alongside them.

We talk about:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we finally get our sound together — and then immediately start talking about why stylists are rock stars.

We dive into the legacy of Vidal Sassoon and how he revolutionized modern hairdressing, branding, and the idea that the stylist is an artist. Why did stylists traditionally wear black? Because the guest is the rock star — not us.

We talk about:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we open up about motherhood, cancer, friendship, and what happens when your children grow into adults.

Both of our sons are seniors in high school, and we talk honestly about what it feels like to watch them step into their future. From tux fittings and milestone moments to the quiet emotional shifts that come with parenting teenagers, this season of life hits differently.

Naomi shares what it was like being a mom of a child with cancer — the emotional drain, the fear, the strength you didn’t know you had...

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we’re talking about hormones, hair changes, postpartum color chaos, and the hard lessons we’ve learned behind the chair.

We dive into the difference between working with new clients versus long-term regular guests — and why understanding someone’s hormone journey can be more important than their inspiration photo.

We cover:

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we’re talking about DIY hair, color theory, and the very different types of salon guests we meet behind the chair.

We kick things off with Chromadaddy and how creative color education and product innovation are changing the way stylists approach vivid and corrective color. From there, we dive into the wild world of at-home hair experiments — the DIY box-color moments, the “I saw it on TikTok” trims, and the guests who treat their bathrooms like chemistry labs.

We break down:

This episode starts with hydration — or more accurately, Naomi’s complicated relationship with water.

What begins as a casual conversation about drinking enough water quickly spirals into college memories, short-lived academic ambitions, and how neither of us exactly followed a traditional path before ending up behind the chair.

Then we take a turn to Hawaii.

Beckee shares the story of the moment she fully believed she was Moana in the ocean — connected, powerful, main character energy — until reality reminded her otherwise. Naomi follows with her own story about having zero fear on land… but perhap...

This episode starts with hydration — or more accurately, Beckee's new humidifier and Naomi’s complicated relationship with water.

What begins as a casual conversation about drinking enough water quickly spirals into college memories, short-lived academic ambitions, and how neither of us exactly followed a traditional path before ending up behind the chair.

Then we take a turn to Hawaii.

Beckee shares the story of the moment she fully believed she was Moana in the ocean — connected, powerful, main character energy — until reality reminded her otherwise. Naomi follows with her own story about having zero fea...

In this first episode, we pull the curtain back on why this podcast needed to exist.

We talk about what it really means to start something new after 40—especially in an industry where you’re expected to always be “on,” always giving, and rarely supervised. Being a hairstylist means working independently while holding space for everyone else’s emotions, stories, milestones, and trauma. Over time, that emotional labor adds up.

In this conversation, we explore how deeply emotional this career can be, how making a real impact on clients’ lives can take a toll on your nervous...