Just Like Nana

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Bee Doyle, a  nurse practitioner, intuitive healer, and spiritual teacher, to discuss moving out of survival states into a journey of healing and thriving.

Together, they explore the non-linear nature of healing, ways to regulate your nervous system, tapping into ancestral resilience, and more.

About Bee

Bee Doyle is a nurse practitioner, intuitive healer, and spiritual teacher who uniquely bridges the worlds of medicine and metaphysics. As a combat veteran, her own p...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Erika Yourdan, a licensed therapist and counselor, where they discuss how to use systemic thinking and nature-based healing to bridge the gap between your past and your present, helping you claim your rightful place as a cycle breaker. 

Together they explore the feeling of psychological homelessness, where the fractures in our family history leave us feeling disconnected from our roots and our sense of belonging. 

About Dr. Erika Yourdan

Dr. Erika Yourdan is a li...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by healer and social justice educator Joanna Kent Katz, as they explore how to move from inherited patterns of trauma and cultural assimilation toward a heart-centered state of collective liberation.

Together they discuss how healing your personal lineage is a vital step in dismantling systemic oppression and understanding your belonging in the world.

About Jo Kent Katz

Jo Kent Katz is an intuitive healer, social justice educator, and an ordained Kohenet (Hebrew Priestess) dedicated to the work of justice...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Savannah Brown, where they discuss the mental and emotional tolls of breaking generational trauma patterns. 

Together, they explore the reality that breaking trauma cycles isn't a clean, linear process—it's messy, imperfect, and requires an incredible amount of somatic awareness and radical self-honesty to move forward.

About Savannah

An Army veteran and police officer, Savannah is also a student obtaining a Master’s in Social Work. She is the author of In the Wake of Wound...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Frances Champagne to delve into the world of epigenetics to discover how your environment and experiences shape your brain and behavior. 

This episode explores how understanding these interactive pathways can actually lead to greater resilience and personal agency, regardless of the past. 

About Dr. Champagne

After completing a B.A. in Psychology at Queen’s University (Canada), Dr. Frances Champange delved into the genetic and environmental risk factors in psychopathology at McGill University in the M.Sc. prog...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Amy Pons to discuss the importance of reconnecting with one's soul blueprint and breaking generational trauma.

Together they explore the benefits of finding a deep connection to your ancestors, the connection between the brain and nervous system as it responds to trauma, and the importance of listening to your soul’s truth.

About Amy

Amy Pons is the Founder and CEO of Unlock the Magic; Host of Women Making Moves; and Head of Marketing for En...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Harriet Shearsmith to discuss the balance between honoring our ancestors and drawing firm boundaries around destructive behavior. 

Together, they explore how ancestral trauma is unintentionally passed down through generations, share stories of personal family estrangements, and dive deep into what it truly means to be a cycle breaker. 

About Harriet

Harriet Shearsmith is an accredited empowerment and life coach, trainee therapist, best-selling author, and content creator of over 10 years. She specialises in working with cl...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by licensed psychologist, Dr. Daphne Fatter to explore the world of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and its link to ancestral healing. 

They explore how trauma isn’t just a personal experience but a legacy burden that can be handed down through DNA, attachment patterns, and energetic imprints. The flip side is that we can also be the recipients of ancestral gifts.

About Dr. Daphne Fatter

Dr. Daphne Fatter is a licensed psychologist, clinical trainer, and international speaker specializing in...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Reiki practitioner Erica Wallace Moore, as they explore how Reiki can help with “stuck” emotions or chronic stress caused by unintentionally carrying the energetic imprints from generations past. 

Together, they explore how empathy and intuition serve as spiritual superpowers to help you navigate trauma, dissolve gunky energy, and finally create a safe space your soul needs to rest and restore. 

About Erica Wallace Moore

Erica Wallace Moore is a Reiki Practitioner, Instructor, healer, and Akashic Record...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by “The Formidable Genealogist,” Jen Shaffer, to discuss how uncovering the histories of our ancestors allows us to move forward with empathy and understanding. 

They discuss how professional genealogy can be a powerful tool for exploring ancestral trauma and finding a path toward healing, and how you can get started uncovering your own family tree.

About Jen Shaffer:

Born in Iowa and currently residing in Minnesota, Jen Shaffer has had a lifelong passion for history, which...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Kenlee Valleskey, as they discuss Internal Family Systems (IFS) as it relates to the weight of generational cycles and ancestral trauma. This work is so important in understanding how our internal world of wounded and protective parts is shaped by the experiences of our ancestors. 

About Kenlee:

Kenlee Valleskey is a licensed professional counselor with extensive experience in Internal Family Systems (IFS). As a lover of questions and the intersections of our lives, she explores spaces that don't have n...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with Dr. Isabelle Mansuy, a Professor in Neuroepigenetics. They get to the root of ancestral trauma, starting with the groundbreaking science of epigenetics and the transgenerational effects of trauma. 

About Dr. Isabelle Mansuy

Dr. Isabelle Mansuy is a leading expert in the field of neuroepigenetics and a professor based in Switzerland. Her pioneering research focuses on the biological mechanisms of how traumatic life experiences, particularly those occurring in early childhood, modify mental and physical health across generations. Through her extensive w...

Content Warning: This episode includes mention of child sexual assault. 

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Peter Levine to discuss how trauma lives in the body and, more importantly, how the trauma cycle can be completed to restore a sense of inner peace. 

They unpack the signs– persistent physical symptoms, repetitive relationship patterns, feeling disconnected from your own life– that point to the roots of your struggles, which are not just in your mind but etched into your p...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by acupuncturist, health coach, and breathwork facilitator Amy Kuretsky to dive into the world of trauma-informed healing. 

Together, they explore how active breathwork serves as “vibrational medicine” to complete interrupted trauma cycles, helping you move from a state of fight, flight, or freeze, back into a regulated, peaceful state. 

About Amy

Amy Kuretsky is a licensed acupuncturist, board-certified health coach, and a seasoned breathwork facilitator with the Global Professional Breathwork Alliance. As the co-owner of Conste...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with author Mona Susan Power to discuss the complexities of cultural trauma, family history, and the transformative power of storytelling. 

Together, they explore why many of us struggle with ancestral trauma and deep-seated personal shame without realizing these burdens aren’t entirely theirs to carry, how witnessing the “unspoken” stories of our ancestors can lead to profound personal growth, and so much more. 

About Mona Susan Power

Mona Susan Power is an enrolled member of the Standing...

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with Sarah Lindsey, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who uses a trauma-informed and relational perspective in her work. Together, they unpack the concept of intergenerational trauma and, more importantly, intergenerational healing. 

They explore the profound idea that “pain runs through families until someone is resourced enough to feel it,” and so much more. If you’ve ever felt like the “cycle breaker” in your family, this conversation will provide you with the somatic tools and emotional validation you need to rewrite the story in yo...

In the debut episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler introduces us to the Elizabeth Room. In this space, generations of her ancestors gather to tell their stories. Amie shares her deeply personal journey of discovering 45 grandmothers named Elizabeth through DNA testing and genealogical research.

The heart of this episode is a narrative reimagining of Amie’s fifth great-grandmother, Elisabetha Kaltwasser Simon. Set in Bavaria in 1823, we follow 12-year-old Betha as she navigates the rigid teachings of the church, the weight of family expectations, and a terrifying encounter with a wolf pack that reveals a...

Welcome to Just Like Nana! Join host Amie Penny Sayler on a deeply personal and wildly curious journey into ancestral trauma and generational healing. In this trailer, Amie introduces her mission: exploring how the unresolved traumas of our ancestors continue to play out in our lives today, and how we can work toward resolution for ourselves, our descendants, and our ancestors.

Discover what inspired Amie and what you can expect in future episodes, including: