Long Game: a Heated Rivalry Podcast

Declan and Silvan are joined by author Dorian Ravenscroft to talk about their debut novel, The White North Has Thy Bones, a queer Victorian Gothic horror story involving a doomed Arctic expedition, unreliable narrators, morally questionable characters and more than a few ghosts.

Dorian takes us behind the scenes of the novel, from its unlikely beginnings after watching The Terror to the rather chaotic process of plotting a story in which nobody can quite be trusted to tell the truth. We also discover how much of the horror was inspired by real historical events.<...

Declan is back for Part 2 of our Common Goal discussion, and is joined by Brittany from the Long Game Book Club to finish unpacking Rachel Reid's fourth Game Changers novel.

This time, we're asking some bigger questions, like does the age gap between Eric and Kyle really matter? Why is Eric so emotionally self-aware but so terrible at communicating? And did Common Goal miss an opportunity to explore the realities of retiring from professional hockey and coming out later in life?

Brittany  makes a surprisingly convincing case for changing t...

Declan is joined by Kirsty from the Book Hashira as we move on to Common Goal, the fourth instalment in Rachel Reid’s Game Changers series. This is one of the most divisive books.

In Part One, we dive into Eric and Kyle’s relationship and ask whether their romance really feels like a happily-ever-after, or whether “happy for now” might be a better fit. 

We explore the book’s significant age gap, Eric’s anxieties about retirement and getting older, and whether the story misses an opportunity to dig deeper in...

Silvan is joined by actor and musician Justin Stanek for a conversation about acting, music, Next Door and the reality of pursuing a creative career in Los Angeles.

Justin takes us back to where it all began, from community theatre and an unexpected first commercial to packing up his life and moving across the country to LA. He opens up about the less glamorous side of being a working actor: endless auditions, day jobs, rejection, last-minute bookings and learning to confidently say, “I’m an actor.”

Of course, we have t...

Declan is joined with Jenn from The Book Refuge for Part 2 of our deep dive into Tough Guy by Rachel Reid. This time, we’re putting Ryan and Fabian to the ultimate test and discussing how they actually compare to Shane and Ilya?

Declan and Jenn go head-to-head across everything that makes a romance work, including chemistry, emotional intelligence, romantic gestures, sex, conflict resolution and, ultimately, whether these couples are built for the long game.

We get into why Tough Guy feels so different from Heated Rivalry, how Rachel Re...

Declan is joined by Jenn from The Book Refuge to dive into Tough Guy, the third book in Rachel Reid’s Game Changers series, and it’s quite the change of pace after Heated Rivalry.

This time, we’re talking Ryan Price and Fabian Salah, two characters who couldn’t seem more different, but who might be exactly what the other needs. We unpack Ryan’s anxiety and complicated relationship with hockey, Fabian’s unapologetic confidence and queerness, and why their much slower journey towards intimacy makes their relationship feel so different from Shane and Ilya’s.<...

Declan and Silvan are joined by author Alex Cross, creator of Echoes of Us, Becoming Us, When We Ignite and From Our Ashes.

Alex takes us right back to the beginning of her writing journey, from growing up as a chronic daydreamer and discovering fanfiction, to writing her first novel on her phone while nap-trapped with her daughter. We talk about the leap from fanfiction to publishing, learning the industry as she went, and why releasing Echoes of Us was such an unexpectedly emotional experience.

Of course, we get...

Just when you thought we we were finished with Heated Rivalry, Rachel Reid has one more dinner waiting for us.

In Part 14, Declan and Silvan dive into the bonus chapter, My Dinner with Hayden, as Shane and Ilya attempt something arguably more challenging than professional hockey, namely hosting Hayden and Jackie for a civilised dinner party.

We unpack the tension between Ilya and Hayden, Ilya’s surprising talent as a host, and whether this fan-favourite bonus chapter actually adds anything to the story. We also take a closer look at...

Declan and Silvan make it to the end of Heated Rivalry, but does Shane and Ilya’s story get the ending it deserves?

In Part 13, we dive into Chapter 27 and the epilogue, as Shane and Ilya begin to imagine what a future together might actually look like. We explore Ilya’s changing idea of “home,” the significance of Shane finally letting him further into his life, a semi-proposal disguised as a joke, and why the possibility of keeping their relationship secret for another ten years already feels impossible.

We also com...

Declan and Silvan finally reached that chapter.

In Part 12 of our Heated Rivalry deep dive, we tackle Chapter 26, and despite our best intentions, manage to spend an entire episode on just one chapter.

We start with the newly announced Season 2 casting and the conversation surrounding Harris, body representation and the expectations fans bring to adaptations. Then it’s back to the cottage, where Shane and Ilya are happier, more open and more in love than we’ve seen them before. Right up until David catches them together on the dock...

Declan and Silvan are joined by one of the most talked-about voices in MM romance.

In this special interview, we're joined by bestselling author Scarlett Drake to discuss the phenomenal success of Oleander, her haunting queer reimagining of Great Expectations. 

Scarlett shares the twelve-year journey that took her from posting fanfiction on Wattpad to becoming one of the genre's most celebrated independent authors, and how self-publishing changed her life.

We take a deep dive into Oleander, exploring the inspiration behind the novel, its gothic a...

Declan and Silvan break down the Heated Rivalry book review in part 11. We dive into one of the most talked-about chapters and it is every bit as steamy as its reputation suggests.

We explore how Rachel Reid balances intimacy with emotional depth, discussing why these scenes feel so much more than just spice. From playful video game rivalry and unforgettable chemistry to conversations about consent, vulnerability and communication, we unpack what makes this chapter such a turning point for Shane and Ilya.

We also compare the book with the...

Declan and Silvan are at The Cottage in Part 10 of our Heated Rivalry book review.

We unpack one of the funniest chapters in the novel, from eight burgers and "stupid Canadian wolfbird" to the effortless comedy Rachel Reid gives Ilya throughout these scenes. Beneath the laughter lies one of the book's most important emotional turning points.

We explore Shane's hesitation about coming out, what it means for Ilya to feel like a secret and how Rachel Reid captures the complicated balance between love, fear and vulnerability. We also compare these moments with...

Declan and Silvan break down the start of Shane and Ilya’s cottage escape in Part 9 of our Heated Rivary Book review. This week we are joined by Bri, who is a long-time listener of the podcast.

Together, we explore why this chapter feels like such a turning point in their relationship, from the emotional significance of Shane inviting Ilya into his most personal space to the honesty, vulnerability and quiet intimacy that begin to replace years of secrecy. 

We also discuss Scott Hunter's impact on Shane and Ilya's fut...

Declan and Silvan dive into Part 8 of the Heated Rivalry book review.

We explore how Rachel Reid uses crisis as the catalyst for emotional growth in Shane’s injury. We compare the novel with the TV adaptation, unpack why Shane and Ilya react so differently in each version, and discuss the psychology behind fear, avoidance, and the moment Ilya realises he cannot walk away.

As always, we go off on a few tangents, like why third-act breakups frustrate us, whether redemption after cheating can ever work in romance, and ho...

Declan and Silvan go deeper into our Heated Rivalry deep dive in Part 7. We unpack one of the novel's most intimate and emotionally revealing chapters. What begins with a simple Skype call quickly becomes something far more significant, as Shane and Ilya move beyond physical attraction into a longing for domesticity, comfort, and a shared everyday life.

We explore why Shane's glasses become such an unexpectedly powerful symbol, the psychology behind long-distance relationships, love languages, and the growing emotional vulnerability between two men who are trying desperately not to fall in love. We also...

Declan and Silvan unpack Part 6 of the Heated Rivalry novel. Here, Shane finally says the words he's spent years avoiding, and everything between him and Ilya begins to change. We examine one of the novel's biggest emotional turning points as Shane comes out to Ilya, leading to a conversation that's surprisingly understated and deeply significant. We explore why Rachel Reid's character writing feels so authentic, how the TV adaptation chooses what to keep (and what to reinvent), and why this moment marks a new stage in Shane and Ilya's relationship.

We also dive into...

In Part 5 of our Heated Rivalry book club series, Silvan is joined by special guest Alicia, long-time listener and book club member. Together, we unpack Shane’s honest conversation with Rose and the realisation that the future he imagined for himself may not be the one he truly wants.

Our discussion explores the differences between the book and the TV adaptation, from Rose’s role in Shane’s journey of self-discovery to the introduction of Svetlana and the ways both versions of the story handle friendship, family, and identity. Silvan and Alicia also dive into t...

Declan and Silvan sit down with Caroline Plyler, director of the hit vertical romance Next Door, to discuss her journey from actor and script supervisor to first-time director. Caroline shares how her own experiences  shaped the story, why she wanted to create the "queer Disney Channel movie we never got," and what it has been like seeing audiences around the world connect with Kit and River's love story.

We explore the rise of vertical filmmaking, how platforms like Candy Jar are changing the way stories are discovered, and why Caroline believes mobile-first storytelling is h...

Declan and Silvan dive into Part 4 of our Heated Rivalry book review series. This is one of the most important introductions in the entire story, Rose.

We compare Rachel Reid's novel with the TV adaptation, and explore why Rose feels different on the page versus on screen. I’m e discuss how Sophie Nélisse's performance elevated the character and why Shane and Rose's relationship serves such an important purpose in Shane's journey toward self-acceptance.

Along the way, we unpack the idea of "meeting the right woman," reflect on our...

Declan and Silvan are joined by Jenn from the Book Refuge for Part 2 of our Fan fiction and AO3 episode. We go deeper into the world of AO3 and fancition. 

We cover tags such as hurt/comfort and soulmate Alternate Universess to secret marriages, social media disasters, and the infamous plane crash fic. Jenn guides us through the stories that have captured the Heated Rivalry fandom's imagination. We explore why readers are drawn to angst, whether suffering makes a love story more meaningful and how fanfiction allows us to revisit beloved characters in entirely n...

Silvan is joined by special guest Jenn from The Book Refuge for a deep dive into the passionate world of Heated Rivalry fandom, fan fiction, and the phenomenon of AO3.

Jenn shares her journey into fan fiction culture, including how Heated Rivalry became one of the biggest fandoms on AO3. We unpack why these characters inspire such devotion, what makes romance adaptations so emotionally powerful when done well and why fandom spaces can feel both deeply creative and deeply personal.

Together we explore what AO3 actually is and how...

Declan and Silvan dive into Part 3 the Heated Rivalry book review. We finally reach one of the most emotionally charged turning points in Shane and Ilya’s relationship and we had a lot to say about it.

From the aquarium scenes with Hayden and the subtle hints about Shane’s fears around family, to the infamous penthouse chapter, ginger ale, tuna melts, and one devastating use of first names, we unpack how Rachel Reid uses intimacy, domesticity, and even sex itself as storytelling devices. 

We explore how these chapters shift...

In part two of our Heated Rivalry book review series, Declan and Silvan dive deeper into the emotional chaos, yearning, and tension that turns Shane and Ilya’s relationship from a physical rivalry into something far more dangerous. What started as criticism in part one quickly becomes obsession as the pair unpack chapters 9–11 of and realise this is where the story truly finds its rhythm.

We discuss Ryan Price’s introduction and the early exploration of anxiety and mental health and Ilya’s protective instincts and the complicated relationship he has with his father. 

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In this episode of the podcast, Declan and Silvan dive into the Heated Rivalry book. Covering the first eight chapters, we begin a multi-part deep dive into how the original story compares to the TV adaptation, and whether the book lives up to the hype.

Coming to the story from two very different perspectives, Declan as a longtime reader and Silvan as a first-time book reader shaped by the show, our conversation explores first impressions, biases, and the challenge of separating beloved on-screen portrayals from the source material. 

We u...

Declan and Silvan are joined by Lizzy from the Self aware podcast in  Part 2 of this special discussion on masculinity and sport in Heated Rivalry. In this episode, we explore the emotional cost of elite athletic culture through the lens of Shane, Ilya and Scott.

Building on last week’s episode, the conversation moves beyond performance and into identity, intimacy, and emotional survival. We question why physical closeness between male athletes encouraged, while emotional vulnerability feels almost impossible. We explore why can Shane and Ilya fight, joke, and touch each other with ease and yet...

In this episode of the podcast, Silvan and Declan are joined by special guest Lizzy, who is a college athletics coach, former competitive thrower, and co-host of the Shelf aware Podcast, for a conversation about masculinity, sport, and emotional expression.

Drawing on her lived experience as both an athlete and a coach working closely with young men in sport, Lizzy offers an insider perspective on the pressures, expectations, and unspoken rules that shape male athletes. We explore how environments like hockey and elite sport more broadly, rewarding emotional suppression, reinforce narrow definitions of masculinity...

In Part 2 of our Game Changers book club series, we dive into the second half of the novel (Chapters 16 to the end). This is where the tension finally breaks, the relationship is tested, and the cracks we’ve been anticipating start to show.

We unpack the long-awaited conflict between Scott and Kip and discuss if it was it worth the build-up, or did it fall flat? We talk about pacing issues and repetitive intimacy to the emotional payoff (or lack of it), we get honest about what worked and what didn’t. We also expl...

Welcome to the first episode of our book club. Declan and Silvan dive into the Game Changer, the book by Rachel Reid that started off the whole book Heated Rivalry series and introduced Scott and Kip.

Coming to the story from a TV-first perspective, we explore what it feels like to read Game Changers with the show still fresh in mind. We talk about the challenge of separating the book versions of these characters from their on-screen counterparts, and how adaptation can both lose and elevate different parts of a story.

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In part two of the trauma focused episode, Declan and Silvan continue their discussion with trauma therapist and comedian Eliza, going deeper into the emotional and psychological layers of Heated Rivalry.

This episode explores how trauma shapes the way Shane and Ilya relate to each other, from minority stress and emotional suppression to dissociation, control, attachment wounds, and defence mechanisms. Together, we unpack the difference between intensity and intimacy, the role of trauma in sexual relationships, and why seemingly messy dynamics can still hold genuine care, trust, and emotional growth.

In part one of this special two-part episode of Long Game: A Heated Rivalry Podcast, Declan and Silvan are joined by trauma therapist and comedian Eliza to unpack why Heated Rivalry feels so emotionally intense. Together, we explore the obsession, attachment, longing, and emotional pull that has made the show so impossible to stop thinking about.

From ADHD hyperfixation and dopamine hits, to yearning, restraint, masculinity, and queer joy, this episode digs into the psychology of why the story lands so deeply for so many people. Eliza brings both her therapist lens and her...

Declan and Silvan reach the final part of our deep dive into Episode 6 of Heated Rivalry.

After Shane’s Father discovers Shane and Ilya together, the episode shifts into one of the most emotionally powerful sequences of the series. We unpack Shane’s spiral, the quiet but powerful support Ilya provides, and the tense dinner that turns into something far more meaningful.

At the centre of this episode is the heartbreaking and healing conversation between Shane and his mother. We talk about the weight of internalised shame, the experience of t...

We are still at the cottage. Welcome back to Episode 6, part 2. In this episode, Declan and Silvan peel back the layers that make this story resonate for so many people craving authentic representation. We break down where Shane and Ilya’s playful banter turns into a heartfelt confession, showing how their love grows gradually. We analyse the subtle storytelling that creates emotional catharsis, like Shane’s panic attacks, Ilya’s opening up in Russian and the quiet scenes bathed in an art-house style. We also examine how the story balances intense emotional stakes with light humour, making the characters’ victorie...

In part 2 of our psychology deep-dive, Clinical Psychologist, Neelam joins Declan and Silvan as we move byond attachment styles into parenting styles, the pressures of professional sports and the impact of shame on identity. We explore the intersection of race and sexuality and which therapeutic approach/type of therpay we think could benefit Ilya, Shane, Scott and Kip. We delve into the masculinity and vulnerability of the show and the psychological toll of long-term compartmentalisation.

In part 1 we unpacked attachment dynaimcs. Part 2 asks bigger questions and a deeper analysis.

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Declan and Silvan are joined by Clinical Psychologist, Neelam to unpack the psychological layers behind Heated Rivalry. Together, we explore themes of attachment styles, addictive viewing and the importance of support systems. We uncover why this story resonates so deeply and the nature of parasocial relationships and the effects of celebrity culture on viewers. 

This episode blends narrative analysis with Neelam’s clinical insight, bringing psychological thoery into conversation with key scenes from the series. Expect plenty of feelings. 

This is Part 1 of the conversation, with Part 2 coming soon.

Declan and Silvan finally arrive at the cottage. Episode 6 is wherre everything starts to climax. In Part 1, we dig into the first half of the pisode and unpack the shifting dynamics in Shane and Ilya’s story. We delve into our expectations of the cottage and Scott’s speech and the importance of a safe space for LGBTQ+ individuals. We touch on our dating experiences, cinematic techniques from the episode and what lies ahead for the Ilya and Shane. We touch on the complexities of coming out, the nuances of neurodiversity and the portrayal of grief and loss, particularly in r...

In this episode of the podcast, Declan and Silvan are joined by Ren Browne, an author and podcaster to discuss the portrayal of female characters in the Heated Rivalry series. Ren shares her insight and admiration for the depth and complexity of the female characters. We take a deep dive into all the female characters you love, including Svetlana, Rose, Yuna, Elena and even Maria, highlighting their supportive roles and the emotional intelligence they bring to their relationships with the male leads, Ilya, Shane, Scott and Kip.

This episode is part author interview, part...

This episode picks up in the second half of Episode 5. Declan and Silvan break down the pivotal scenes, including the hotel encounter that marks a shift from physical to emotional connection. We devour Ilya’s Russian monologue, where he expresses his love, and Scott’s grand gesture which serves a turning point for LGBTQ+ representation in sports. We highlight the role of women as catalysts in the narrative and conclude at the Cottage.  

This episode works best after listening to Episode 5, part 1.
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Declan and Silvan analyse episode 5 of Heated Rivalry, ‘’I’ll believe in anything’. There was so much content to talk about that we split it into two halves. This episode has been hailed as one of the most highly rated episodes at the time of it’s release. We explore the cultural impact of the episode, the depth of character development, and the emotional journeys of the for Shane and Ilya. We highlight the significance of supporting characters, the dynamics of different friendships and the importance of coming out in a safe environment. Part two will be released on Sunday 25t...

Declan and Silvan break down episode 4 of Heated Rivalry, Rose. We explore the dynamics of our beloved characters of Ilya and Shane and how the introduction of Rose serves as a catalyst in their story. We look at how Rose complicated Shane’s emotional journey as well as the self-destructive patterns that emerge from his fear and insecurity. Our conversation highlights the importance of emotional intelligence and the contrasting lives of the characters, culminating in a deep analysis of the nightclub scene and its symbolism.

Chapters

02:17 Character Dynamics and Relationship Development

05:18 The Role of...