The Secret Sauce
The Secret Sauce Podcast - a thought-provoking show that decodes the science and systems behind better health, performance, and decision-making. Hosted by Oscar-nominated filmmaker and entrepreneur Mukul Deora, it cuts through the noise with depth, intelligence, and conversations that make you think differently. Tune in every Thursday for world-class conversations that sharpen how you think, live, and lead.
The Hidden Battle To Save India's Wildlife: Conservation, Conflict & The Future Of Nature | Dr. Anish Andheria | Mukul Deora | E41
Why is India one of the world’s greatest experiments in human-wildlife coexistence, and what does it take to protect wildlife in a rapidly developing country? In this conversation, Dr. Anish Andheria explores the complex relationship between humans, animals, conservation, and the future of India’s ecosystems.
As the President of Wildlife Conservation Trust (WCT), Dr. Andheria shares insights from decades of work in wildlife conservation, studying forests, protecting habitats, and finding practical solutions to human-wildlife conflict. He explains why India’s forests are not just about animals, but about water, biodiversity, communities, and the survival of ecosys...
Why Billionaires Travel for Longevity Treatments: The Future of Health & Human Performance | Dr. Mitra Basu Chillar | Mukul Deora | E40
What are longevity clinics, and why are billionaires travelling across the world for advanced health optimisation treatments? In this conversation, Dr. Mitra Basu Chillar explores the science behind longevity medicine, regenerative approaches, and the future of extending healthspan.
From his 25-year career as a scientist at DRDO to his work in preventive and functional medicine, Dr. Chillar explains how modern longevity medicine focuses not only on treating disease but also on improving energy, reducing chronic disease risk and optimising human health. He breaks down why elite individuals visit European longevity clinics, how evidence-based treatments evolve and why...
Special Forces Mental Training: How to Stay Calm and Perform Under Pressure | Mon Brokman | Mukul Deora | E39
Stress, pressure and overthinking can change how your body performs long before you consciously realise it. In this conversation, mental performance expert Mon Brockman explains how to train your nervous system, manage stress and perform under pressure using lessons from elite sport, Special Forces training and psychophysiology.
From his experience in Special Forces to working with high-performance athletes, Brockman breaks down why stress often begins with how we perceive a threat, how the nervous system reacts to that perception, and why the same pressure can help one person perform while causing another to freeze.
The...
Sanjay Dutt's Oncologist Explains Early Cancer Signs, Essential Screenings & New Stage 4 Treatments | Dr. Sewanti Limaye | Mukul Deora | E38
Cancer screening, early detection and modern cancer treatment are changing what a cancer diagnosis can mean. In this conversation, oncologist Dr. Sewanti Limaye explains what everyone should understand about cancer risk, screening and treatment before a diagnosis forces them to learn it.
From Sanjay Dutt’s stage 4 lung cancer and his response to immunotherapy to the rise of precision oncology, Dr. Limaye breaks down how targeted therapy, immunotherapy and personalised cancer treatment are transforming outcomes for some patients.
The episode also explores why routine blood tests may not be enough for cancer detection, what liquid bi...
India's Top Neuroscientist: Why Boredom, Failure & Free Play Build Stronger Children | Vidita Viadya | Mukul Deora | E37
Why do children need boredom? And could constantly scheduling, entertaining and protecting them actually be getting in the way of healthy child development?
In this episode of The Secret Sauce, neuroscientist Prof. Vidita Vaidya explains what the neuroscience of parenting tells us about raising resilient children, from boredom and unstructured free play to failure, stress, screens, sleep, emotional regulation and secure attachment.
Vidita explains why a developing brain needs opportunities to explore without instructions, why free play teaches children negotiation, compromise and problem-solving, and why parents should not try to engineer a child into a...
India's Top Neuroscientist: Why Boredom, Failure & Free Play Build Stronger Children | Vidita Vaidya | Mukul Deora | E37
Why do children need boredom? And could constantly scheduling, entertaining and protecting them actually be getting in the way of healthy child development?
In this episode of The Secret Sauce, neuroscientist Prof. Vidita Vaidya explains what the neuroscience of parenting tells us about raising resilient children, from boredom and unstructured free play to failure, stress, screens, sleep, emotional regulation and secure attachment.
Vidita explains why a developing brain needs opportunities to explore without instructions, why free play teaches children negotiation, compromise and problem-solving, and why parents should not try to engineer a child into a...
Sports Scientist: You Know What to Eat, So Why Do You Still Quit Every Weekend? | krushmi Chheda | Mukul Deora | E36
You know what to eat, so why does your diet still fall apart every weekend?
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, sports scientist and nutritionist Krushmi Chheda explains why diets fail even when people have the knowledge, motivation and discipline to eat better. The problem is often not willpower. It is an unsustainable diet plan that does not fit your routine, preferences or social life.
Krushmi breaks down the three common triggers that make people quit: making drastic changes that are difficult to maintain, giving in to social pressure over the weekend, and...
The Mahabharata on Privilege, Nepotism and Changing the Rules | Devdutt Pattanaik | Mukul Deora | E35
Why do people follow certain rules, question others and make exceptions when circumstances change?
Devdutt Pattanaik revisits the Mahabharata and Bhagavad Gita to explore privilege, nepotism, responsibility and human relationships. Through the lives of Krishna, Arjuna, Karna, Ekalavya, Dronacharya, Bhishma and other central characters, the conversation connects ancient conflicts with modern questions around family loyalty, authority, opportunity, leadership and personal choice.
He examines how people create boundaries between “us” and “them,” why rules are often shaped by context, and how dharma asks us to remain aware of both ourselves and others.
The discussion covers:<...
Trying for a Baby? What an IVF Pioneer Says to Check First | Dr. Firuza Parikh | Mukul Deora | E34
Trying for a baby but unsure whether you need IVF? IVF pioneer Dr. Firuza Parikh explains what couples should check before beginning fertility treatment, why infertility must be investigated in both partners, and why IVF should never be recommended without understanding the real diagnosis.
In this conversation, Dr. Parikh explains how long healthy couples should try naturally, how to identify the fertile window, how often to have sex while trying to conceive, and which common conception myths can be ignored. She also breaks down semen analysis, sperm count, motility and morphology, showing why a man can have...
Why Fit-Looking People Get Injured After 40 | John Gloster | Mukul Deora | E33
What does it take to train like a corporate athlete and perform better at work without spending hours in the gym? John Gloster explains how movement, strength training, recovery, hydration and nutrition influence cognitive performance, energy, injury risk and longevity.
In this conversation, John breaks down the connection between physical health and professional performance. He explains how prolonged sitting affects the spine, posture, core and glutes, why regular movement can improve focus and communication, and how brisk walking, swimming, mobility work and resistance training can protect the body as it ages.
Drawing from his experience...
Lisa Ray: I Went Into Menopause At 37, Here's What Women Learn Too Late| Mukul Deora | E32
In this deeply personal episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Lisa Ray opens up about cancer, chemo-induced menopause, perimenopause, aging, and the silence that still surrounds women’s health.
Lisa shares how cancer treatment pushed her into chemo-induced menopause at 37, why she did not speak about it for years, and how that silence reflects a much larger problem: women’s health is still too often dismissed, misunderstood, or hidden.
This conversation breaks down what women are rarely told about hormonal health. Perimenopause symptoms can begin earlier than expected, they can feel deeply isolating, and menopause is o...
Former HUL Chairman: How He Built a $76B Company Without Shortcuts | Sanjiv Mehta | Mukul Deora | Ep 31
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Mukul Deora speaks with the former CEO of Hindustan Unilever about crisis, ambition, failure, ethics and the mindset required to build a high-performance company. Sanjiv shares how his time in the Bhopal crisis team shaped his belief that businesses must serve society, not just shareholders.
The conversation covers the hard parts of leadership: taking decisions without complete information, creating a culture where people can talk about failure, choosing the spirit of the law over shortcuts, building teams that speak freely, and staying humble even while chasing b...
Your Comfortable Life Is Making You Weaker | Dr. Marcus Ranney | Mukul Deora | Ep 30
Stress is not always the problem. The wrong kind of stress, without recovery, is.
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Mukul Deora speaks to Dr. Marcus Ranney, longevity physician and high performance specialist, about why stress is not always the enemy. He explains the difference between eustress and distress, how modern life keeps the body in a constant low-grade distress through emails, deadlines, convenience, poor sleep, noise, overwork and always-on culture.
He also tells about how controlled discomfort, like cold showers, fasting, exercise, breathwork and heat exposure, ca...
India's Top Dermatologist Reveals What's Aging Your Skin | Dr. Jaishree Sharad | Mukul Deora | Ep 29
India’s top dermatologist Dr. Jaishree Sharad breaks down what is really aging your skin, from sugar and collagen loss to hormones, sunscreen, acne, dark circles and the skincare mistakes Indians are making every day.
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, we go beyond beauty tips and look at skin as a reflection of health. Dr. Jaishree explains why Indian skin is different, why Korean skincare may not work for everyone, how sugar affects collagen, why sunscreen is non-negotiable, and how lifestyle, PCOD, thyroid, insulin resistance, stress, smoking and pollution can show up on your fa...
The Woman Who Built Apollo Beyond Hospitals | Shobana Kamineni | Mukul Deora | E28
Shobana Kamineni is the force behind Apollo HealthCo, a triple-unicorn healthcare business built across Apollo 24|7, Keimed, and Apollo Pharmacy.
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Mukul Deora speaks with Shobana Kamineni about what it takes to build and scale healthcare businesses inside one of India’s most respected healthcare groups. She shares the story behind Apollo Pharmacy, the creation of Keimed’s medicine distribution network, and the rise of Apollo 24|7 as a digital healthcare platform built for modern India.
The conversation explores how Apollo transitioned from being hospital-led to becoming an integrated healthcare ecos...
A Top Radiologist Reveals What Your Health Checkup Misses | Dr. Anirudh Kohli | Mukul Deora | E27
Most people wait for symptoms before taking their health seriously. But some of the biggest risks, heart disease, fatty liver, visceral fat, aneurysms and metabolic syndrome, can build silently for years.
In this episode Dr. Anirudh Kohli, radiologist and CEO of Breach Candy Hospital, to understand how preventive imaging can help detect hidden health risks before they become serious.
Dr. Kohli breaks down the scans and tests that matter, from CT angio, calcium score and photon-counting CT to MRI, DEXA scan, ultrasound, brain MRI angiography and liver elastography. He explains why blood tests alone may...
India's Top Divorce Lawyer: Reveals What Actually Ends Marriages| Adv. Mrunalini Deshmukh | Mukul Deora| E26
Divorce in India is often seen as the end of a marriage, but the reality is far more complicated. From emotional infidelity and family interference to legal delays, alimony, child custody, and social pressure, separation in India is rarely just about two people walking away.
In this episode India's Top divorce lawyer Mrunalini Deshmukh explains why Indian marriages fail, why divorce cases are rising in urban India, and how divorce law in India can make the process emotionally and legally difficult.
The conversation explores love marriage vs arranged marriage...
The Sleep Signs Every Parent Should Know| Dr. Indu Khosla| Mukul Deora| E25
A child’s sleep problem doesn’t always look like a sleep problem. Sometimes it looks like poor focus, mood swings, anxiety, weight gain, bedwetting, mouth breathing, snoring, or a child who wakes up tired despite “sleeping enough.”
In this episode, Dr. Indu Khosla explains why children’s sleep health is deeply connected to growth, immunity, learning, hormones, behaviour, breathing, and long-term development. She breaks down how child sleep problems change from infancy to teenage years, what parents often get wrong about bedtime, and why screens, overstimulation, routines, and delayed sleep cycles are affecting children more than ever.
...Top neurosurgeon: A man couldn't stop laughing at his brother's funeral. Here's what we found inside his head. Dr. Mazda Turel | Mukul Deora | E24
Your brain is not just where you think. It is where your memory, sleep, behaviour, movement, judgement, personality and identity are being built every day.
In this episode, neurosurgeon Dr. Mazda Turel takes us inside the human brain from awake brain surgery and brain tumour cases to sleep, alcohol, smoking, screen addiction, dopamine detox, AI, neuroplasticity and spine health. He explains what actually happens inside the brain when we sleep less, drink more, sit for too long, outsource thinking to AI, or ignore early neurological symptoms.
This conversation also explores the surprising ways brain tumours ca...
India's top art auctioneer: I couldn't sell this painting for 4 lakh. It just crossed 40 crore| Mallika Sagar| Mukul Deora | E23.
A painting sells for ₹100 crore. But how does that number actually happen?
In this conversation with Mallika Saagar, India’s top art auctioneer, we demystify the Indian art market from how artworks move from artists to galleries, to how they enter auctions, to what really happens when collectors start bidding against each other.
Mallika breaks down the difference between the primary and secondary art market, how auction houses work, what buyer’s premium means, why the hammer price is not the final price, and how terms like reserve price, provenance, rarity, medium, condition, and quality shape t...
The exact method to restart reading when you've completely stopped | Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta | Mukul Deora | E22
What does reading actually do to your brain, your stress levels, your focus, and the way you live?
In this conversation, Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta Asia’s 1st Reading Coach tells us why reading still matters in the age of endless scrolling, short-form content, screens, and constant stimulation. The discussion goes beyond “reading is good for you” and looks at what actually happens inside the brain when we read, why books activate deeper thinking, and how reading can shape the way we learn, respond, create, communicate, and understand other people.
A major...
This what reading can do to your brain | Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta | Mukul Deora | E22
What does reading actually do to your brain, your stress levels, your focus, and the way you live?
In this conversation, Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta Asia’s 1st Reading Coach tells us why reading still matters in the age of endless scrolling, short-form content, screens, and constant stimulation. The discussion goes beyond “reading is good for you” and looks at what actually happens inside the brain when we read, why books activate deeper thinking, and how reading can shape the way we learn, respond, create, communicate, and understand other people.
A major...
The Best Formula For Longevity | Dr. Vishakha Shivdasani| Mukul Deora| E21
Why do so many Indians struggle with metabolic health, sugar cravings, and rising diabetes risk even when they feel “fine”? In this conversation with Dr. Vishakha Shivdasani, Physician practicing metabolic health, longevity and disease reversal breaks down the real problem behind modern Indian health.
This episode explores how the typical Indian diet, hidden insulin resistance, and everyday habits are quietly driving conditions like diabetes, fatty liver, and metabolic dysfunction. More importantly, it explains why most people only focus on treatment after disease shows up and what you can do to stay healthy before it’s too...
The Doctor Every Indian Doctor Looks Up To Finally Speaks | Dr. Farokh E. Udwadia| Mukul Deora| E20
When to let patients go is one of the hardest decisions in medicine, but it’s only
one part of a much deeper conversation.
In this episode, Dr. Farokh Udwadia, Padma Bhushan awardee and one of
India’s most respected physicians, reflects on how medicine has evolved and
what it may have lost along the way. From building critical care in India to
decades at the bedside, he brings a rare perspective on science, judgment, and
the human side of healing.
The conversation explores how mode...
India's Leading Cardiologist: This Is How You Avoid A Heart Attack | Dr. Kirti Punamiya | Mukul Deora | E19
Most people think heart attacks happen because of age, weight, or obvious symptoms. This conversation challenges that assumption by examining heart attack causes and prevention, revealing why young, thin, and “healthy-looking” individuals remain at risk and what truly drives heart disease today.
From the confusion around COVID and heart attacks to the role of inflammation and cholesterol, this episode breaks down the real causes of heart attacks and why early heart attack symptoms are often misunderstood or ignored. It offers a clearer understanding of how cardiovascular risk develops silently over time.
Modern risk factors are expl...
Ex HSBC Chairman: How I Forced Every Indian Bank to Change the Work Week | Naina Lal Kidwai | Mukul Deora | E18
Naina Lal Kidwai didn't just survive Indian banking — she built it. In this conversation, the former HSBC India Chairman walks through the decisions, the crises, and the costs behind one of the most consequential careers in Indian financial history.
She was in the room when NSE was conceptualised — because BSE refused to change. She was CEO of HSBC India during the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, managing hostages, bullet wounds, and panicking families from her office while keeping every single one of her employees alive. She introduced the 5-day work week to Indian banking when the RBI called to question her...
Ex HSBC Chairperson: How I Forced Every Indian Bank to Change the Work Week | Naina Lal Kidwai | Mukul Deora | E18
Naina Lal Kidwai didn't just survive Indian banking — she built it. In this conversation, the former HSBC India Chairman walks through the decisions, the crises, and the costs behind one of the most consequential careers in Indian financial history.
She was in the room when NSE was conceptualised — because BSE refused to change. She was CEO of HSBC India during the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, managing hostages, bullet wounds, and panicking families from her office while keeping every single one of her employees alive. She introduced the 5-day work week to Indian banking when the RBI called to question her...
Everything You Think About Hypnosis Is Wrong - A Psychiatrist Explains | Dr. Swati Kashyap | Mukul Deora | E17
What do anxiety, depression, narcissism, and addiction actually mean and how do you know when they become something more serious?
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Dr. Swati Kashyap a psychiatrist, psychologist, addictionologist, hypnotherapist, and family physician known for her integrative approach to mental health- to unpack the psychology behind anxiety disorders, clinical depression, personality traits like narcissism, addiction, and trauma.
The conversation breaks down these terms in a clear, practical way explaining how they present through symptoms, how they differ from normal emotional experiences, and when...
India's Car Revolution Started With A Mother's Grief | R. C. Bhargava | Mukul Deora | E16
How was Maruti built when almost nobody believed it would succeed?
In this conversation, R.C. Bhargava shares the inside story of how Maruti was built against skepticism, political pressure, and the rigid realities of India’s controlled economy. He explains why most foreign companies refused to invest, how Suzuki saw India’s future before others did, and what it took to build a modern automobile company from scratch.
The episode also explores the deeper operating principles behind Maruti’s rise: consumer insight, Japanese manufacturing discipline, supply chain thinking, radica...
Brain Burnout: The Fatigue Nobody Talks About | Dr. Shailendra Chaubey | Mukul Deora | EP 15
Most people think burnout is just tiredness. But brain burnout is a deeper problem - a state where your mind loses the ability to switch off, recover, and regain energy.
In this conversation, Dr. Shailendra Chaubey - India's leading Vitality and Holistic Wellness Expert - explains why so many high performers today feel mentally exhausted even after rest. He breaks down the science behind brain fatigue, energy crashes, and chronic burnout, and why modern productivity culture quietly pushes the brain into constant overload.
You’ll learn why millions experience a...
One suicide every 40 seconds. What are parents missing? | Dr. Zirak Marker | Mukul Deora | EP 14
Teen mental health is on the rise - and most parents are missing the early warning signs.
In this deep conversation with Dr. Zirak Marker, child, adolescent & family psychiatrist and psychotherapist, we unpack why anxiety, depression, ADHD, bullying, screen addiction, and substance abuse are increasing in today’s youth. From the underdeveloped teenage brain to instant gratification, social media pressure, marijuana use, and overprotective parenting - this episode breaks down what’s really happening beneath the surface.
You’ll learn:
Why emotional resilience matters more t...
One suicide every 40 seconds. What are parents missing? | Dr. Zirak Marker | Mukul Deora | EP 13
Teen mental health is on the rise - and most parents are missing the early warning signs.
In this deep conversation with Dr. Zirak Marker, child, adolescent & family psychiatrist and psychotherapist, we unpack why anxiety, depression, ADHD, bullying, screen addiction, and substance abuse are increasing in today’s youth. From the underdeveloped teenage brain to instant gratification, social media pressure, marijuana use, and overprotective parenting - this episode breaks down what’s really happening beneath the surface.
You’ll learn:
Why emotional resilience matters more t...
This Mindset Creates Massive Wealth | Umang Papneja | Mukul Deora | EP 13
When wealth grows, how should your mindset change?
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, we sit down with Umang Papneja, CEO of Julius Baer, to unpack how India’s ultra-rich think about money - not just how they make it, but how they protect, allocate, and compound it across decades.
From sudden liquidity events to multi-generational planning, this conversation reveals the discipline behind serious capital. We explore the three-bucket framework (safety, growth, business capital), why concentration builds wealth but diversification protects it, and why patience - not mo...
The Real Reason Women Are Burnt Out | Dr. Aditi Govitrikar | Mukul Deora | EP 12
Why are modern women feeling more exhausted than ever before? In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Dr. Aditi Govitrikar breaks down the real reasons behind burnout, guilt, and emotional overwhelm in today’s fast-paced world - and offers practical ways to navigate it.
Dr. Aditi is a Havard trained psychologist, who brings together professional training and real-life insight to explain the invisible pressures shaping women’s lives. She explores how expanding responsibilities at home and work quietly drain mental energy, how social media intensifies expectations, and why guilt has become such a cons...
Ex-HDFC Chairman Deepak Parekh: It failed miserably. And we lost money. We didn't pay dividends for two years. | Mr. Deepak Parekh | Mukul Deora | E11
How do you actually build India’s biggest financial institution from scratch? In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, legendary business leader DEEPAK PAREKH reveals how patience, integrity, employee ownership, and long-term thinking created one of India’s most trusted organisations.
Mr. Parekh is the former Chairman of HDFC and a pioneer of India’s housing finance industry. Over four decades, he helped transform a small five-person setup into a financial institution that shaped India’s middle class, redefined housing finance, and set new standards for corporate governance.
He expla...
Why Being Your Child's 'Friend' Is Actually Hurting Them | Dr Mahesh Balsekar | Mukul Deora | E10
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, India’s Leading Paediatrician, Dr. Mahesh Balsekar, draws on over three decades of clinical experience to explain how parenting has changed, why children’s physical and mental health challenges look so different today, and what actually helps children grow into healthy, resilient adults.
From rising childhood obesity and sleep deprivation to anxiety, screen overload, and parenting pressure, this conversation breaks down how modern lifestyles are quietly shaping children’s bodies, brains, and emotional health. Dr. Balsekar explains why parenting is not about perfection, performance, or constant optimi...
Why Most People Use BUY NOW PAY LATER The Wrong Way
Most people think India’s credit boom is a recent fintech story, but the reality runs much deeper.
In this conversation, global fintech leader, Lizzie Chapman explains how India has always run on credit through informal trust networks, how digital public infrastructure like UPI radically accelerated access, and why modern banking systems are engineered to profit from consumer mistakes. She breaks down what really happens behind ‘zero-cost’ EMIs, BNPL, and credit cards, how small lapses quietly damage credit scores, and why financial harm today often shows up years later when it matters most.
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Why Most People Use BUY NOW PAY LATER The Wrong Way! | Lizzie Chapman | Mukul Deora | E9
Most people think India’s credit boom is a recent fintech story, but the reality runs much deeper.
In this conversation, global fintech leader, Lizzie Chapman explains how India has always run on credit through informal trust networks, how digital public infrastructure like UPI radically accelerated access, and why modern banking systems are engineered to profit from consumer mistakes. She breaks down what really happens behind ‘zero-cost’ EMIs, BNPL, and credit cards, how small lapses quietly damage credit scores, and why financial harm today often shows up years later when it matters most.
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Eye Surgeon Reveals the Truth About Refresh Eye Drops -- Are They Worth It? | Dr. Ritika Dalal | Mukul Deora | E8
In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Ophthalmologist Dr. Ritika Dalal explains how prolonged screen use is quietly reshaping eye health, why modern screen habits strain both adult and developing eyes, and how repeated exposure can shape long-term risks like chronic dry eye, digital eye strain, and early vision problems especially in children.
We break down what happens when eyes are forced into hours of continuous near-focus reduced blinking, a drying tear film, overworked eye muscles, and fatigue our biology was never designed for. Dr. Dalal explains how this constant strain quietly damages...
What High AQI Really Does Inside a Child's Body | Dr. Indu Khosla | Mukul Deora | E7
Most parents worry about outdoor air pollution, but the real damage to children’s lungs often begins much earlier and much closer to home.
In this conversation, pediatric pulmonologist Dr. Indu Khosla explains how polluted air especially fine particles like PM2.5 affects children differently than adults, why growing lungs are more vulnerable by design, and how repeated exposure can quietly lead to asthma, allergies, reduced lung capacity, and long-term respiratory disease. She breaks down what actually happens when children inhale polluted air, why this damage is often slow and invisible, and why doctors are in...