First and Feral- Utah Unfiltered

For years, Makenna Gibbons’ name has been connected to the MomTok swinging scandal—but most people have never heard the story from her perspective.

In this episode, Makenna sits down with Jordyn and Jessica to share her side in her own words.

She opens up about how she became part of the friend group, how the “soft swinging” began, the role alcohol played in blurring boundaries, and what she believes people have misunderstood about the timeline between the swinging and the affair that ultimately impacted her marriage.

Makenna also takes us inside w...

You know Keaton Hoskins as “The Muscle” from Diesel Brothers. But you probably don’t know this version of him.

Keaton joins First & Feral for one of our most raw and unexpected conversations yet, taking us from the kid who barely graduated high school and ended up in jail to becoming a millionaire, building and buying 50+ businesses, starring on one of Discovery Channel’s biggest reality shows, and ultimately walking away from the version of himself everyone thought they knew.

And he holds NOTHING back.

Keaton opens up about the wild story that landed h...

From heroin addiction to successful entrepreneur—Cait Connell's story is one you won't forget.

In this powerful episode of First & Feral, we sit down with Cait Connell, owner of Bare Aesthetics Studio, master esthetician, educator, entrepreneur, and mother of three, to hear the incredible story behind her success.

Before building a thriving business, Cait battled heroin addiction, overdosed, nearly became homeless, and lost the man she loved to addiction. She shares what it was like growing up in Southern Utah, how childhood trauma and addiction shaped her early life, and the moment she de...

Liann May | Taylor Frankie Paul's Mom on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Reality TV, Faith & Family

Liann May, best known as Taylor Frankie Paul's mom from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives (MomTok), joins First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered for one of her most candid conversations yet.

Liann shares what it's really like watching her daughter navigate fame, reality television, and life under constant public scrutiny. She opens up about Taylor's custody battle, the emotional toll reality TV has taken on their family, and why she believes viewers rarely see the full story behind...

Netflix's The False Prophet: The True Story Behind Samuel Bateman | Christine Marie & Tolga Katas

What happens when two ordinary people risk everything to expose a dangerous cult leader?

In this episode of First & Feral, we sit down with Christine Marie and Tolga Katas, the real people behind Netflix's hit documentary The False Prophet. Christine, a humanitarian and founder of Voices for Dignity, and Tolga, the filmmaker behind the documentary, share the incredible true story of how they spent years earning the trust of members of the FLDS community before uncovering the crimes of...

Can your face reveal your personality, health tendencies, and even parts of your past?

In this episode of First & Feral, we sit down with Dr. Todd Frisch, founder of Why The Face (WTF) and a retired physician who has spent years studying facial analysis.

Before recording, Dr. Todd completed facial analyses on both Jordyn and Jessica—and we intentionally didn't look at the results. For the first time, we're reviewing them live on air and reacting in real time.

What starts as a fun conversation quickly turns into a fascinating deep di...

Utah radio royalty joins First & Feral this week!

Jess Ferguson, longtime voice of 97.1 ZHT and host of The Jess Connection and Frankie & Jess Podcast, sits down with us for an honest conversation about life behind the mic, motherhood, marriage, infertility, career pivots, and what really happened when her legendary radio career came to an end.

We talk about growing up in Arizona, becoming one of Utah's most recognizable voices, navigating major life transitions, launching successful podcasts, and why women need to support each other more than ever.

Plus, we dive into Utah culture...

We’re back with another Feral File and this one is CHAOTIC 👀 We’re talking the Mormon garment that somehow ended up at Coachella, the new OC cast of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives (including the THROUPLE 👀), Kim K + Lewis Hamilton rumors, Utah showing up on Love on the Spectrum, Justin Bieber at Coachella, the new Michael movie, and all the April + May pop culture chaos we’ve been dying to discuss 🍿✨

We also dive into the Taylor Frankie Paul + Mikayla drama, Connor’s magic show era, Disney Halloween planning, Formula 1 obsessions, and why Utah might secr...

“I told her not to film this…” and hours later, it was going viral. 👀

In this episode of First & Feral, we sit down with Officer Nae Nae, the viral cop behind one of the internet’s most unexpected moments, to talk about how a simple gas station dance turned into national attention… and what his life looks like now behind the mic and behind the badge.

But this conversation goes way deeper than a viral story.

We get into the reality of his work in law enforcement, including undercover operations catching predators online, the dangers o...

Are Utah moms doing too much… or are we all just trying to keep up?

In this episode of First & Feral, we’re getting real about the pressure of being a mom in Utah — from over-the-top birthday parties and early sports competition, to mom groups that feel more like high school and the constant need to keep up with the “perfect” aesthetic.

We talk about the unspoken expectations, the guilt, the comparison, and the question every mom is asking but not saying out loud… is this normal, or is this a Utah thing?

If you’ve ev...

🎙 FIRST & FERAL x LAWYER TEA: Breaking Down the Taylor Frankie Paul Case + Reality TV Lawsuits

If you’ve been spiraling over the Taylor Frankie Paul drama, Dakota’s protective order, or wondering what’s actually true vs. TikTok noise… this episode is your reality check.

We sat down with viral legal expert Lawyer Tea (Chase Walker) to break down EVERYTHING — from the real legal implications behind Taylor & Dakota’s situation to what the courts actually consider (yes, including reactive abuse 👀).

We’re also diving into:

🎙️ FIRST & FERAL: SLMW Season 4 Breakdown – Chaos, Controversy & Unfiltered Opinions

In this episode of First & Feral, we’re diving deep into the Season 4 drama of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives (SLMW) — and let’s just say… NOTHING is off-limits. From messy relationships to jaw-dropping moments, we’re breaking it all down with our signature unfiltered take.

We cover everything from Taylor Frankie Paul’s emotional rollercoaster, her complicated dynamic with Dakota, and the real question: was she ever ready for The Bachelorette? 👀 Plus, we get into the chaos surrounding DadTok vs MomTok, the uncomfortable villa drama, and the t...

March was unhinged… and we’re breaking it ALL down.

In this month’s Feral Files, we’re diving into the biggest pop culture moments, Utah drama, and internet chaos that had everyone talking. From shocking true crime updates out of Utah to MomTok drama that somehow keeps getting messier (yes… we’re talking about that situation 👀), nothing is off limits.

We’re also getting into:
✨ Celebrity sightings + unexpected run-ins
✨ Justin Bieber’s comeback era
✨ Bachelor Nation chaos and wild backtracking
✨ The age-gap couple everyone has opinions on
✨ Shows we’re currently obsesse...

Taylor Frankie Paul’s Bachelorette season was canceled… and we have a LOT to say.

In this episode of First & Feral, we break down the shocking fallout surrounding Taylor Frankie Paul, the rumors, the reality, and what this means for The Bachelorette and Bachelor Nation as a whole.

Was this the right move by ABC… or a massive mistake?

We get into everything — from the Dakota drama, to what production likely knew behind the scenes, to the bigger conversation no one is having about accountability, relationships, and second chances.

Plus… wh...

Bachelorette Cast Breakdown — Our Top 3 Picks Before the Premiere 👀✨

The men are officially here… and we have THOUGHTS.

In this episode of First & Feral, Jordyn & Jessica break down the full cast competing for Taylor Frankie Paul’s season of The Bachelorette — and yes, we’re already making bold predictions before night one even airs. 💅🌹

We’re talking Utah representation (or lack thereof 👀), the cowboys, the gym bros, the dark horses, and the guys already giving final-four energy vs. early exit vibes.

In this episode:
✨ Our early Top 3 predictions
📍 The Utah contestants and why we exp...

Episode 18: SLMW Reunion Recap — Stassi dropped the ball, Dakota spiraled, & we still got ZERO answers 🎙️🔥

We’re officially at the end of the season… and the reunion was somehow the messiest episode and the least satisfying. Jordyn & Jessica break down Episode 11: The Reunion of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — and we’re not being dramatic when we say: nothing got answered.

We get into:

The Chase + Taylor cliffhanger and why the flirty vibes felt… off (sorry Miranda 😬)

Taylor showing up 30 minutes late (motherhood core) and still looking flawless

The prayer circle bef...

This week on First & Feral, we’re serving chaos, pop culture, and peak Utah unfiltered energy. 😵‍💫🎙️

We break down the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 4 trailer (Taylor + Dakota + ???), Demi’s random “singing career” moment, Whitney on Broadway, and why this season looks like it’s about to be the messiest one yet.

Then we spiral into everything February had to offer:
✨ Grammys chatter (Justin Bieber’s performance + the mystery “yell”)
🏔️ Winter Olympics heartbreak + why we were emotionally invested
🥌 Curling… aka the sport no one understands but we can’t stop watching
💔 Layla & Mason breakup rumors + the blo...

Hop in the time machine, besties — we’re taking you straight back to 2016. 😅✨
In this episode of First & Feral, we go full nostalgia mode and unpack why 2016 was actually such a main character year for both of us.

We’re talking:
🎆 Ringing in 2016 in Las Vegas (freezing, chaotic, and Todd spiraling over a backpack 💀)
🚤 Lake Powell + the red Sanger boat era — including the infamous giant duck float + pregnant Jordyn panic
🍝 The night we were starving and someone committed the ultimate crime: stealing ALL the lasagna cheese
🎭 Our legendary Halloween party era — yes, the Masquerade Ba...

Welcome back to First & Feral — your easy-listening, girlfriend catch-up where Utah culture meets pop culture, mom life, and the random stuff we can’t not talk about. 😅🎙️

In this “Get to Know Your Hosts” episode, we’re bouncing between:

The real difference between an LDS baby blessing vs. a comfort/priesthood blessing (and why the paperwork + “record” piece matters)

Our morning routines: coffee first vs. water first, plus our favorite water hacks (Alani packets, Clean Simple Eats clear protein, etc.)

Pet peeves we’ll die on: loud chewing, the avocado net bags from he...

Episode 17 — The Book of Enlightenment: Dakota, Denial & the Breaking Point (SLMV Season 3 Ep 10 Recap)

This episode is MESSY in the best (and worst) way. Jordyn & Jessica break down Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 3 Episode 10 — “The Book of Enlightenment,” where Taylor hits her breaking point, Dakota’s denial gets louder, and the “family friend” storyline gets weirder by the minute.

We unpack:

Why the reunion (and the host) felt… pointless 🙃

Taylor’s “nail in the coffin” moment + why she deserves better

Demi’s jealousy, the apology that almost landed, and why the...

Welcome to First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered — and this is our first-ever Feral File (aka our new monthly pop culture recap bonus episode). 🎙️🔥

In this episode, Jordyn & Jessica talk through how we’re restructuring our release schedule (because pop culture refuses to cooperate), how we’re balancing Secret Lives of Mormon Wives recaps with what’s happening right now, and why some shows are way easier to cover weekly (hello, The Bachelorette).

We get into the hottest and messiest headlines, including:

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives updates: Demi, Jen, Zach, Marciano + the latest drama and hypocrisy di...

Part 2 of this powerful conversation on First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered dives deeper into a mother’s lived experience navigating her child’s gender transition, faith and the LDS church, and the complicated grief that can come with change — while still choosing love, safety, and compassion.

We talk about the difference between sexual orientation vs. gender identity, what it’s like when your child asks for a preferred name and different pronouns, and how parenting becomes an “in the moment” journey — not a future projection. This episode also takes an unexpected turn into her own health battle: a breast cancer...

Before we begin, we want to share a quick note with our listeners.
Today’s episode includes a personal story involving a child’s gender transition, faith, and serious illness. This conversation reflects one family’s lived experience and is shared with care, honesty, and love.

Our intention is not to persuade or debate, but to create space for understanding and compassion. We encourage everyone to engage with empathy.

In Part 1, Jordyn & Jess sit down with lifelong friend Anna for a deeply personal conversation about parenting the child in front of you — especially when life tak...

🎙️ Episode Recap: Press Chaos, Glam Drama & That Cliffhanger Call

This episode is pure chaos from the very first second—because yes, we forgot to hit record and had to relive the madness all over again. Welcome to First & Feral.

We break down everything from the LA press tour fallout to glam room side-eye, ET interview tension, and why the vibes were deeply off. Taylor doing her own makeup? Whitney’s questionable outfit choices? Separate cars, silent stares, and a press event that spiraled fast.

We unpack:

The Demi vs. Miranda c...

This week on First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered, we’re recapping Secret Lives of Mormon Wives (SLMW) Season 3, Episode 8 — and it’s a LOT.

We break down the episode’s biggest moments: Taylor and Dakota looking way too happy before the truth drops, Whitney vs. Demi and the “make it make sense” dinner that somehow ends with Whitney apologizing (???), and why the Marciano drama + texts + “Martino” nickname are giving master manipulator energy.

We also talk about Mikayla and Jace in couples therapy, trauma, intimacy, and why watching her shut down is both heartbreaking and eye-opening. The...

Welcome back to First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered 🎙️ In Episode 12, we’re breaking down Secret Lives of Mormon Wives (SLMW) Season 3, Episode 7—aka the Stagecoach episode that had us yelling at the TV.

From the Desert Disco brand house chaos and MomTok content farming, to Jen showing up sick, Whitney reposting Demi (and the whole group spiraling), and Taylor + Dakota proving once again that chemistry does not equal healthy… we cover it all. Plus: the Lana Del Rey moment, the “how do they have time for TikToks?” mystery, the raw bacon situation (criminal), and the relationship tension that’s...

This week on First & Feral: Utah Unfiltered, we’re diving into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives chaos—starting with our reaction to The Viall Files interview with Jordan and why the accountability felt… missing.

Then we get into everything blowing up in the group: Demi vs. Jesse, the Marciano controversy, and why the “victim” conversation is getting complicated for the cast (and for viewers). We talk Hulu event drama, the awkward glam-room tension (poor Macy), Whitney’s comeback energy, Taylor doing her own makeup like the feral icon she is, and yes—Fruity Pebbles Gate / “Piss Gate” and whethe...

Demi is in full master manipulator mode this episode, and we’re breaking down every receipt—from the Hydrojug chaos with Layla, to the Marciano rumors, to how she keeps triggering Jessie, Jen, and basically the entire cast. We also dive into Michaela and Jace’s marriage, EMDR therapy, and what low libido, shame, and past trauma look like behind the “perfect” Utah couple image.

Then we get into the Dancing with the Stars dream: Whitney’s wild outfits, clout-chasing accusations, that emotional car moment, and whether she was chosen for the show… or engineered the drama to make it hap...

Episode 9 — Trust Issues on Trial: The Polygraph Episode
SLMW Season 3 Ep 4 Recap

The lie detector said… we’re not okay. 😵‍💫
In this episode, we break down the most chaotic chapter of Season 3 so far — Jessie’s polygraph results, the messy meanings behind those “inconclusive” answers, and the emotional fallout that sends shockwaves through the friend group.

We dive into:
• What those polygraph questions really meant
• Jessie vs. Jordan — a phone call that left us screaming
• Demi drama (shocking? No. Entertaining? Yes.)
• Friendship politics, gaslighting vibes & misplaced loyalty
• Why the group cannot stop inserting th...

Marciano is back… and so is the chaos. 😬
We’re diving into MomTok drama straight from Beaver to St. George — Cialis confessions, lie detector tests, spicy F-bombs, surprise cameos, and questionable decisions (Jesse… girl… WHY?).

We break down:
• The real reason Marciano won’t go away 🤔
• Demi popping up everywhere & stirring the pot 🔥
• Layla finding her voice (and dropping bombs) 💣
• Cross necklaces, Mormon culture & Utah dating tea ⛪
• Are Jessi & Jordan gonna make it?! 💔➡️❤️

Pop in your earbuds and come get feral with us — the secrets keep spilling.
🎙️ Hosted by Jordyn & Jess — First & Feral: Utah Unfilter

Episode 7 — Beaver, Botox & Marciano’s Mess
SLMW Season 3, Episode 2 Recap

We’re back recapping Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 3 — and this episode is giving everything. From Marciano's confession to a very questionable beaver moment 🫣… we have thoughts.

Join Jordyn & Jess as they break down the elevated St. Patrick’s Day party for Mikayla, the friendship riffs, the side-eye shade, and all the behind-the-scenes tension brewing in Utah’s reality scene.

🎙️ Expect:
✨ Botox tea spilled everywhere
🔥 Marciano’s messy storyline
👀 Awkward shopping trip chaos
💅 Real Housewives-level drama (Utah edition)
🍀 “Elegant” St. Patty’s...

🎙️ Episode 6 — SLMW Season 3, Episode 1 Recap
A Dramatic Return to Utah’s Reality Scene

Season 3 is HERE — and the chaos has already arrived. 👀🔥
We’re breaking down every Utah-coded moment from the premiere of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — the drama, the friendships, the shifting alliances, and all the fire the wives are bringing back to the screen this season.

From jaw-dropping intros to brewing tensions, we’re recapping the biggest surprises, the subtle shade, and the iconic Utah glam that keep us coming back every season. ✨

💬 Join the conversation — who are you rooting for this s...

In the premiere episode of First & Feral:Utah Unfiltered, hosts Jordyn and Jess dive headfirst into the wild world of Utah’s mosttalked-about influencer — Taylor Frankie Paul — and the rumors that have officially broken theinternet. From TikTok scandals and mom-Tok drama to her shocking Bachelorette buzz, this episode unpacks why everyone’s obsessedwith Taylor Frankie Pauland what her story reveals about modern fame, Utah culture, and influencerredemption arcs.

Taylor Frankie Paul has dominatedheadlines in 2024 and 2025 as one of Utah’s most polarizing socialmedia personalities.Known for her glamorous life, viral videos, and connection to the Mormon“sof...

Utah’s culture has become a viral playground for rumors, reels, and religious rabbit holes — but how much of it is real, and how much is just TikTok gossip? 👀

In this episode, Jordyn & Jess pull back the curtain on LDS myths, Mormon stereotypes, and social-media misconceptions that shape how the world sees Utah. From caffeine conspiracies ☕ to temple talk, and the influencer-next-door aesthetic — we separate fact from fiction and share what life in Utah really looks like.

We talk pop culture, religion, and reality-TV crossovers — why creators keep spotlighting Utah moms, how LDS beliefs get t...

Leaving the FLDS at 17: Joanna Fischer on faith, family, and finding herself

In this raw, unforgettable conversation, Joanna Fischer—raised in the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)—shares what daily life looked like in Colorado City/Hildale: dawn scripture study, homeschooling, long-sleeve prairie dresses, “no red” rules, and music/movies strictly controlled under Warren Jeffs’ leadership. She explains excommunication and “repenting from afar,” the United Order interviews, arranged marriages, and the fear that followed the 2008 Eldorado, Texas raid.

Joanna also opens up about the turning points that made her question everything—childhood respon...

🎙️ Episode 5 — Season 2 Recap: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

In case you missed it 👀 —we’re recapping Season 2 of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives ahead of the highly anticipated Season 3 premiere. From new alliances and shocking betrayals to rumors that blurred faith and reality, this season took Utah’s most talked-about show to another level of chaos.

Your hosts from First & Feral break down the friendships, drama, and deep Utah energy that made Season 2 so unforgettable — unfiltered, funny, and so Utah.

🎧 Tune in for the ultimate recap before Season 3 drops.

🎙️ Episode 4 — Season 1 Recap: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

We’re rewinding to where Utah’s reality storm began — The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. 👀 From whispered scandals and viral reels to the unfiltered truth behind the cast, we’re spilling everything Season 1 SLMV.

In case you missed Season 1 (or just want a refresh before the Season 3 premiere), this recap breaks down the friendships, fractures, and faith-based drama that turned Utah’s quiet suburbs into a national obsession.

Your hosts dish out the real tea — hilarious, raw, and so Utah. 🍸

🎧 Tune in for gossip, context, and...