Pain turned into purpose produces power. There isn’t necessarily meaning in pain in and of itself—that’s not what we’re saying. But what we are saying is that when we look for meaning, when we look for purpose after we’ve experienced suffering and life’s pain, it can produce power in our lives.

That power may show up as joy. It may be hope. It may be greater resilience.

It could even lead to growth in compassion—empathy for others, and maybe even grace or mercy.

So today, we’re going to spen...

Healing isn’t a one-time event. It’s a continual journey. Too often, we put pressure on ourselves to “arrive” at healing quickly, as if it’s something we achieve once and never revisit. But real healing is ongoing. It requires patience, intention, and a willingness to grow through every season. On this episode, we’re seeking to normalize the healing journey so that we can become the best versions of ourselves! 

Part of normalizing the healing journey is committing to the practice of reflecting, retooling, and resetting. Reflection creates space—space to slow down, assess where you are, and ho...

On this special episode of Skills & Pills, we pick up a Q&A session from our time with Lisa Marie Lovett. Lisa Marie shares how she dealt with the loss of family members and how we can develop grace and compassion for ourselves. Snuggle up and enjoy this special presentation!

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What happens when you try to carry everything on your own?

In this episode of Skills & Pills, we explore the true cost of trying to manage every responsibility, burden, and expectation by yourself. Many of us believe strength means handling everything alone, but the reality is that constantly carrying more than our capacity leads to exhaustion, imbalance, and burnout.

This is why we need the art of offloading. This means learning how to share burdens, release responsibilities that are optional, and bring others into the process so that life becomes more sustainable and balanced.

How do we carry all of the roles and responsibilities as a mother? As a friend? Or as a spouse? We can feel weighed down by all of the obligations while trying to grow personally at the same time. 

We weren’t meant to carry these weights by ourselves. We need friends and community, and we also need to recognize what we actually have the capacity for in the season we’re in.

These are the topics in our latest episode. We discuss the importance of doing an emotional check-in and how to establish anchors, wheth...

Are you doing all the "right" things for self-care? Taking the bubble baths, booking weekend trips, downloading the mindfulness apps… but still feeling completely overwhelmed and exhausted?

If your burnout isn’t getting better, it’s not your fault. It’s because hustle culture sold us a superficial fix for a deep and systemic problem. 

This is your playbook for moving beyond temporary relief. We’ll explore why so much of what we call self-care doesn't work and what true restoration actually looks like. Hustle culture has turned "self-care" into another item on our to-do list, but t...

How do we practically move from a life of burnout driven by hustle culture to a "soft life" of intentional peace and rest? Hustle culture is built on a foundation of fear, equating relentless work with moral virtue. The soft life is the antidote, focusing on softening into the present moment and redefining success beyond output or status.

In this episode, Dr. Jo and Dr. Mo dive deeply into tips on how to avoid burnout, compassion fatigue, and recognize the true cost of “hustling.” They share how it is possible to build a life of e...

What does it truly look like to love yourself fully? To understand your worth, recognize the kind of friendships you deserve, and begin the journey toward inner healing?

In this episode, Dr. Jo and Dr. Mo are joined by spoken word poet, speaker, and author, Lisa Marie Lovett to dive into these poignant topics!

Healing begins when we stop pretending and start telling the truth about where we are. Finding a safe, healing space often requires being stripped down to the real you. Through vulnerability and reflection, we discuss how embracing your authentic self allows...

The holidays are meant to be joyful—but for many, they come with stress, resentment, and emotional exhaustion. In this episode, The Boundary Blues, we explore why boundaries aren’t barriers to connection, but the structure that allows relationships—and people—to thrive.

Drawing from Dr. Henry Cloud’s work on boundaries, this conversation breaks down why healthy limits are a critical form of self-care, especially during high-pressure seasons. We unpack the emotional warning signs that signal a boundary is needed—anger, overwhelm, resentment, fear, and sadness—and explain how unspoken expectations often fuel holiday conflict.

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The holiday season has a way of magnifying whatever we’re carrying — and for anyone grieving, that weight can feel unbearable. In this episode, Dr. Mo and Dr. Jo open a compassionate conversation about navigating loss during a time when the world expects celebration. They explore the reality that grief isn’t something we “get over,” but something we slowly learn to live with, rebuild around, and grow through. As Elisabeth Kübler-Ross writes, we may become whole again, but we are never the same — and that truth deserves space, not shame.

Drawing on current data and lived experie...

This episode takes an honest look at why so many women — especially women of color — struggle silently with their mental health, even while appearing strong on the outside. Research shows just how deep this gap runs: women of color face higher rates of long-term mental health challenges, yet they seek treatment at dramatically lower rates. According to Psychiatric Times, only about 5–10% of Black women access mental health care compared to 21.5% of white women. https://www.psychiatrictimes.com

Dr. Mo and Dr. Jo unpack the cultural stigma, generational messaging, faith expectations, and emotional barriers that keep women quiet about...

The holidays are supposed to feel joyful — but what happens when you don’t feel joy at all? In this episode, Dr. Mo and Dr. Jo open up a real conversation about the emotional pressure so many women carry this time of year. From the unspoken expectation to “hold it together,” to the guilt that comes with taking even a moment for yourself, they explore why this season often intensifies stress even for people who genuinely love it.

Together, they unpack the tension between cultural, family, and faith expectations, the signs of emotional burnout, and the quiet weight o...

Words can open us up—or shut us down.
In this episode, Dr. Mo and Dr. Jo dive deep into the hidden power of language and how the most familiar phrases can quietly sabotage growth, healing, and connection.

So many of us use everyday expressions like “I should be better by now,” “You always do this,” or “That’s toxic” without realizing these “therapy-adjacent” words can distort meaning, reinforce shame, or block honest reflection. This conversation pulls those phrases into the light and explores how to replace judgment with clarity.

Inside This Conversation: “The Dirty Words of Therapy...

Every movement starts with a moment of honesty—and that’s exactly where Dr. Mo and Dr. Jo begin.
In this premiere episode, your hosts open up about the real reason they created this show, the gaps they’ve witnessed in the wellness and therapy space, and why they felt compelled to build a platform that speaks directly to the people and stories often overlooked.
Across the U.S., nearly 1 in 5 adults lives with a mental illness, yet most never receive treatment. That reality hits even harder for African American women, who experience nearly twice the rates of dep...