Cliff's Notes
Born and raised in Madisonville, Kentucky, Cliff Nance grew up in the tungsten trade — learning the business from the plant floor up to the CEO’s chair. As a second-generation “scrapie” with a global perspective, Cliff brings curiosity, candor, and decades of experience in tungsten reclamation and recycling to every conversation.On Cliff’s Notes, Cliff sits down with innovators, industry leaders, and thinkers from around the world to talk about the forces shaping manufacturing, metals, and modern business. From technology and sustainability to leadership and legacy, every episode explores what it means to build something that lasts.Whether it’s a deep div...
Episode 304: Niki Spies of Stainless Steel Midwest
Cliff sits down with Niki Spies of Stainless Steel Midwest — a longtime industry friend and 19-year veteran of the stainless and nickel alloys space — for a conversation that puts two very different metals businesses side by side.
SSM moves about 16,000 tons of bulk steel a month. The entire global tungsten industry produces about 140,000 to 150,000 tons a year. Niki breaks down how stainless grades work, why nickel pricing affects everything from aerospace to your kitchen refrigerator, how tariffs are hitting the scrap business (or not), and what ReMA has meant for keeping operators informed in a fast-moving policy environment.
Episode 303: Debbie West | Tungco COO
Cliff sits down with Tungco's COO Debbie West for an inside look at what it means to step into one of the most demanding seats in a nearly 60-year-old business.
Debbie has almost three decades in the tungsten industry and she breaks down the difference between being a director of operations and being a COO, why Project 74 has gone from concept to reality, what the zinc reclaim process actually looks like, and why standing up an APT plant is not as simple as the internet would have you believe.
Plus: the chemistry behind sodium tungstate vs...
Episode 302: Phil Rosenberg of ICD Group
Cliff sits down with a longtime friend and one of the most respected names in the scrap recycling industry — Phil Rosenberg, Senior Executive and commercial director of the metals and alloy division at ICD Group.
Phil is fifth generation in a family scrap business that traces back to the late 1800s, when his great-great-grandfather arrived in Chicago with nothing and started a rags business that grew into one of the city's largest non-ferrous scrapyards.
Phil opens up about his son Jason joining the industry as the sixth generation, the LLC name that made an entire room of...
Episode 208: Cody Mecham of Vermeer Corporation
Cliff sits down with Cody Mecham, cutting edge product manager at Vermeer Corporation, for a deep look at what it means to engineer tungsten into ground-engaging tools when the price of that tungsten is hitting levels nobody planned for. Cody oversees all of Vermeer's cutting and digging tooling across HDD, surface mining, wood waste recycling, and vacuum excavation — and he's frank about the tension between using more tungsten and using smarter tungsten.
The difference between a tool that looks like it's from a gladiator movie and a tool that actually performs is exactly where his team lives. Plus: a...
Episode 207: Andrew Patterson of Villager Asphalt
Cliff sits down with Andrew Patterson, milling department manager for Villager Asphalt, to get into the weeds — literally — on how tungsten carbide performs in one of its most demanding real-world applications: asphalt milling.
Andrew runs a massive milling operation across the Southeast, consuming boxes of tungsten-tipped teeth every single day, and he breaks down the full picture: how the drum works, why rotation is the real key to tooth longevity, what happens when you hit a buried manhole, the evolution from hand cranks to digital grade controls, and why his wife can now spot a worn tooth from the...
Episode 206: Josh McKnight | Lineage Metallurgical & Cuda Grit
Cliff turns the mic on one of his own — Josh McKnight (Lineage Metallurgical and Cuda Grit). They've shoveled gravel together, worked every corner of the Tungco operation, and now Josh is navigating what might be the strangest sales environment in the company's history: tungsten prices going straight to the stratosphere, quotes that expire in three days, customers starting to explore alternatives, and a thermal spray and grit product line that's pulling from every direction at once.
Equal parts business conversation, Kentucky roots, and two guys who know exactly where each other came from.
Hosted by Cliff Nan...
Episode 205: Bryan Mills of CP Carbide
Cliff sits down with Bryan Mills of CP Carbide — a California-based, three-generation family business that has been privately sourcing and supplying tungsten carbide wear parts since 1995.
Bryan breaks down how his dad's 1988 trip to China started it all, why CP Carbide's private-label model means their name almost never appears on the product, and what it's like to watch tungsten prices hit levels that haven't been seen since World War Two.
Plus: the honest conversation about polycrystalline diamond as a rising alternative, Trump's critical minerals vault, and what happens when quotes go stale in less than 24 hours.
Episode 204: Matthew Keske of Vermeer Corporation
Cliff sits down with Matt Keske, commodity manager for Wear Tools at Vermeer Corporation — one of the most diversified heavy equipment manufacturers in the world — to talk tungsten, supply chain strategy, and what 30 years inside a company that's a mile long actually looks like.
Matt breaks down how AI infrastructure and data center build-outs are quietly driving underground drilling demand, why strategic partnerships matter more than spot pricing when metals markets get chaotic, and what it means to be a wear tools buyer navigating today's commodity headwinds.
Plus: the tornado that leveled a steel building and left...
Episode 203: Ashley Hunsaker of HTS Coatings
Cliff sits down with Ashley Hunsaker, co-founder and CEO of HTS Coatings, for one of the most candid conversations about building a business from scratch — eight months pregnant, living in an 800-square-foot house, and saying yes when everyone else was saying no.
Ashley breaks down what thermal spray coatings actually do (hint: they're inside the landing gear on the plane you flew here on), how HTS developed a proprietary chrome alternative with near-zero porosity, and why the tungsten price environment is forcing the whole industry to ask hard questions.
A family business story that's equal parts gr...
Episode 202: Chris Capps of Tungco Procurement
Cliff sits down with one of Tungco's own — procurement specialist Chris Capps — to talk tungsten markets, trust in volatile times, and what 16-plus years inside a carbide recycling operation actually teaches you.
From sorting bits to strategic buying, Chris breaks down why the current tungsten pricing environment is unlike anything the industry has ever seen, and why trust might be the most valuable commodity of all. Plus: boats, baby milestones, and a Rolex with a story behind it.
Hosted by Cliff Nance of Tungco — where hard work meets honest talk about leadership, innovation, and what it takes...
Episode 201: Austin Hargett of weld.com
Cliff sits down with Austin Hargett of weld.com to swap stories, talk high-pressure pipe welding for power plants and refineries, and revisit a legendary night on the Sunset Strip that ended at Whisky a Go Go.
Austin breaks down what makes weld.com a go-to resource for welders working in the most demanding industrial environments.
Equal parts industry insight and "great friend hands you the last drink" energy.
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Project 74 Announcement Cliff's Notes — Special Edition | Recorded Live at ReMA 2026, Las Vegas
Recorded live on the floor at ReMA 2026 in Las Vegas, this special edition of Cliff's Notes officially announces Project 74 — Tungco's Urban Mining Initiative and a landmark partnership with Victor Fox of the Chem-Met Company and Furkhat Faizulla of Syram Corporation, built on one powerful premise: converting domestic tungsten scrap into sodium tungstate, the critical intermediate chemical that nearly 100% of all tungsten products must pass through before becoming a finished part, and keeping those strategic units inside the United States.
Cliff, Victor, and Furkhat break down why tungsten has surged 5x in price over the last eight months, ho...
Episode 107: Brice Littlepage, Managing Director, North America at Tungco
(00:00:00) Introduction from Helsinki
(00:01:58) Discussing paternity leave and supporting new parents
(00:04:51) Navigating misinformation and building confidence
(00:08:00) Brice's career journey: From Florida State to Tungco
(00:17:00) NCAA regulations and intentional touchpoints
(00:25:02) Starting recruitment early (age 12-13!)
(00:27:03) Comparing Tungco's recruitment to Florida State
(00:28:39) Predictors of success in tungsten operations
(00:31:29) Closing thoughts and gratitude
What does recruiting elite basketball players have in common with building a world-class tungsten recycling team? More than you'd think.
In this episode of Cliff's Notes, CEO Cliff Nance sits down with Brice Littlepage—Tungco's North American Managing Director an...
Episode 106: Jonathan Goodrum, President of Basic Carbide Corp
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:03:05) Misfit Social Podcast & Evan's Respect
(00:03:31) Basic Carbide: 44 Years of Excellence
(00:05:49) The February 2024 Acquisition Story
(00:07:53) Sintering Process: From Chalk to Diamond-Hard
(00:09:09) Quality Control & Microscopy
(00:10:07) Mirror Polish & Complex Geometries
(00:12:15) Mutual Respect & Friendship
In this heartfelt episode of Cliff's Notes, Cliff Nance sits down with Jonathan Goodrum, President of Basic Carbide Corporation, for an intimate conversation about family business, tungsten carbide manufacturing excellence, and the relationships that define the tungsten recycling industry.
Jonathan "Johnny Cavs" Goodrum shares his remarkable journey from working at Basic Carbide since age 14 to leading the company through 44...
Episode 105: William Parry-Jones, Founder of Wolfram Advisory
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:00:23) Launching Wolfram Advisory
(00:01:17) Current Market Conditions & Supply Challenges
(00:01:53) Understanding the Global Tungsten Market
(00:02:55) China's Export Controls & Import Surge
(00:03:33) Three Theories on Supply Reduction
(00:04:31) End-of-Life Mines in China
(00:05:00) Cost Curves & Byproduct Production
(00:06:41) Future Mining Projects & Solutions
(00:07:36) William's Engineering Background
(00:08:06) Career Journey: London to Vietnam
(00:09:41) Cliff's "University of Hard Knocks"
(00:10:20) Family Life & Work-Life Balance
(00:11:37) Industry Talent Retention Challenges
(00:12:06) Building Strong Teams in Tungsten
In this episode of Cliff's Notes, Cliff Nance sits down with William Parry-Jones, founder of Wolfram Advisory, to discuss the rapidly evolving...
Episode 104: Adam Rubin, Director of Global Sales & Procurement at Tungco
Join Cliff Nance as he sits down with Adam Rubin, Tungco's newly promoted Director of Global Sales & Procurement, for a candid conversation about a birthday milestone, building a career in the tungsten industry, and taking on new leadership challenges.In this episode, Adam opens up about celebrating his 50th birthday, his 26-year journey in the scrap metal industry (starting from a finance background), and what his expanded role means for Tungco's global operations. From managing procurement and sales across 74 Alloys to navigating the craziest tungsten market he's ever seen, Adam shares insights on leadership, learning, and why fresh perspectives...
Episode 103: Tatiana Hainzl, Expert Strategic Raw Materials Purchasing at Wolfram Bergbau und Hütten AG
(00:00:00) Introduction & Birthday Celebrations
(00:01:59) First Introduction to Tungsten
(00:04:37) The Transition from Finance to Purchasing
(00:06:27) Why Purchasing Over Finance
(00:08:09) Coolest Thing About Tungsten
(00:10:50) Closing Thoughts
In this episode of Cliff's Notes, Cliff sits down with Tatiana Hainzl, Expert Strategic Raw Materials Purchasing at Wolfram Bergbau und Hütten AG, to discuss her unique journey in the tungsten industry. From her early days in finance to her current role in purchasing, Tatiana shares how she discovered tungsten through WBH and learned to navigate the complex world of W03, impurities, and conversion rates.
Tatiana opens u...
Episode 102: "Easy" — Ran Maimon, Metal-Tech LTD President
Tungco CEO and Owner, Cliff Nance, welcomes industry specialists from across the globe and shares noteworthy insight into the world of everything tungsten. In this episode, Cliff sits down with Ran Maimon, President of Metal-Tech LTD and a master relationship builder with over 30 years in the tungsten industry. As a mentor, friend and trusted partner to Tungco, Ran brings invaluable wisdom on problem-solving, trust-based business, and what it really takes to build a legacy in metal recycling.
🔹 In This Episode:
✓ The philosophy of "Easy" – how perspective transforms problem-solving
✓ Building unbreakab...
Episode 101: Ryan Sizemore, CFO at Tungco
(00:00:00) The Bucket List and the Boardroom
(00:04:45) Between Numbers and Nature
(00:08:30) Brotherhood and Banter
Tungco CEO and Owner, Cliff Nance, welcomes industry specialists from across the globe and shares noteworthy insight into the world of everything tungsten. Tungco’s own – newly appointed CFO – Ryan Sizemore is the guest on the debut episode. Cliff has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening today while keeping an eye on the future to inform others about the recycling industry.
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Hosted by Cliff Nance of Tungco — where hard wor...