PSR Podcast
Pure Sex Radio (PSR) seeks to help men, women, and families move from sexual brokenness to wholeness in Christ. Since 2005, Jonathan Daugherty and Stephen Cervantes (and guests) have been helping listeners engage difficult topics like sexuality, marriage, and trauma healing in a thoughtful and personal manner.
Best Practices for a Successful Therapeutic Separation

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In this episode, we have back on the program our friend and colleague Andrew Arthur, a mediator specializing in faith-based mediation, to talk about the delicate topic of separation in relationships and how to navigate them with hope. We delve specifically into therapeutic separation, which is a process aimed at healing and potentially reuniting couples facing serious challenges like infidelity and sexual brokenness.Â
Andrew highlights the importance o...
What is Oneness and Why Does it Matter in Your Life?

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In this episode, Stephen and I explore the profound concept of "oneness," touching on its dimensions of belonging, connection, unity, and intimacy. We discuss how oneness is essential in relationships with family, spouses, and God, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability and mutual understanding.Â
We highlight the very real challenges and rewards of pursuing true oneness; it isn’t like flipping a switch and you will automatically achieve oneness. Oneness is a jou...
Beyond Broken Vows: Rebuilding Marriage After Sexual Betrayal

In this episode, our guests are Johnny and Emily Spigelmire and they share their profound journey through Johnny's sex addiction and its impact on their marriage. Johnny opens up about his early exposure to pornography, his secret struggles, and the eventual escalation to extramarital affairs.Â
Emily shares her perspective, detailing the confusion and pain she experienced, as well as her unwavering faith in their marriage’s potential for healing. Together, they discuss their path to recovery, the importance of honesty, and their mission to help others through their podcast, "Beyond Broken Vows." Their story is a powerful tes...
Navigating from Isolation to Intimacy (with Bret Marshall)

In this episode, I chat with Bret Marshall about his incredible journey of faith and personal transformation. Bret opens up about his struggles with emotional expression and sexual sin, and how these challenges impacted his relationships, especially with his wife, Tena. He shares the pivotal moments that led to his healing, including a transformative intensive experience through a past partnership between Be Broken and the Navigators ministry organization. Bret highlights the ABC’s of emotional health: Acceptance, Belonging, and Connection.
Bret also emphasizes the need for personal vulnerability, authentic connections, and creating safe spaces for men to sh...
The Deep-Rooted Marriage: Cultivating Intimacy, Healing, and Delight

In this episode, I am thrilled to welcome Dr. Steve Call, a clinical psychologist and co-author with Dr. Dan Allender of The Deep Rooted Marriage: Cultivating Intimacy, Healing, and Delight*. We dive into the book's themes, focusing on how past traumas influence present marital conflicts and how to grow in emotional understanding and intimacy. Dr. Call shares his personal marriage journey, emphasizing the importance of awareness and curiosity in relationships.Â
We discuss practical steps for couples to cultivate awareness, the role of play in healing, and strategies for managing triggers. Dr. Call offers hope and resources for c...
Failing Forward: Turning Setbacks into Hopeful Growth Steps

In this episode, Dr. Stephen Cervantes and I dive into the emotional impact of failure. We both express how deeply we hate failing, describing how it triggers feelings of rejection, isolation, and shame. We explore the importance of reframing failure, emphasizing that God's love still remains constant despite our setbacks. His grace abounds!Â
We suggest that solitude can be a sanctuary for self-reflection and growth, encouraging you to create a “holy space” for healing. We ultimately want to offer you a compassionate perspective on failure, encouraging gentleness toward yourself and confidence in the transformative power of God's unwav...
Are You a Loner or Connector in Your Relationships?

In this episode, we dive into the dynamics of "loners" and "connectors" in relationships. Everyone falls into one of these categories. As we explore this topic, my friend and co-host Stephen Cervantes discusses how loners tend to be independent and process internally, while connectors thrive on dialogue and emotional exchange. We examine how these differences impact communication and emotional connection, particularly in marriages.Â
We share insights on personal growth, emphasizing the importance of understanding and appreciating each other's communication styles; we aren’t out to change a loner into a connector or vice versa. We give lots of...
The Role of Boundaries in Marriage Restoration

In this episode, we invite back our friends and counselors, Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith, to talk about the crucial role of boundaries in restoring marriages after betrayal, particularly sexual infidelity. Matthew shares insights from the perspective of the betraying spouse, emphasizing self-reflection and accountability, while Joanna offers guidance for the betrayed spouse on navigating emotions and setting personal boundaries.Â
We delve into defining boundaries as supportive frameworks rather than punishing limitations, avoiding misuse of boundaries for control, and harmonizing them to foster safety and mutual respect. The Raabsmiths highlight the importance of individual responsibility and how boundaries c...
From Eating Disorder to Infidelity to Healing and Restoration

In this episode, I chat with author and blogger Sarah Matzke, who bravely shares her journey through struggles with body image, an eating disorder, and marital challenges, including infidelity.Â
Sarah opens up about her upbringing, the pressures she faced, and the lies she believed about her worth. She recounts the painful yet transformative process of rebuilding trust with her husband, JP, and how her faith in Christ played a crucial role in their healing. Sarah's story is a powerful testament to the importance of vulnerability, honesty, and the grace of God in overcoming life's toughest obstacles.Â
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Porn and Sex Addiction Recovery as a Mental Health Issue

In this episode, I have back on the program Carl Thomas to dig into the recovery journey from pornography and sexual addiction. Carl shares his personal story and emphasizes the importance of community and addressing mental and emotional health.Â
We discuss how recovery goes beyond just stopping harmful behaviors or behavioral sobriety and involves understanding and healing deeper emotional wounds. Carl highlights the stigma around mental health and the need for a holistic approach to recovery. He also provides resources for those seeking support. This episode aims to offer hope and guidance to anyone navigating similar challenges o...
Understanding the Impact of Parent's Infidelity on Adult Children

In this episode, I sit down with Melissa Macomber to explore the emotional and psychological impact of parental infidelity on adult children. Melissa shares her personal story of discovering her mother's affair at 13 and the ensuing family dynamics. Now, as a therapist, she highlights the lack of resources for adult children dealing with such betrayal and emphasizes the importance of addressing trust issues and healing – no matter how long it has been since the parental infidelity took place.Â
We discuss the broader implications of infidelity on family relationships and the unique challenges faced by children at all sta...
Understanding Painful Sex: Emotional Impacts and Pathways to Healing

Today we have back with us Dr. Jennifer Degler, a renowned specialist in sexual health, and we delve into the often-overlooked issue of painful sex. Dr. Degler brings her wealth of expertise to the table, shedding light on the prevalence and emotional impact of sexual pain, especially among women.
We explore various conditions that explain certain kinds pain during sex and how to address them. She also highlights the emotional toll painful sex can take, noting that "many women suffer in silence, feeling isolated and ashamed, which only exacerbates the problem."
Throughout our discussion, Dr...
The Scandal of Virginia Grey: A Tale of the "Other Woman"

In today’s episode, we have Wendy Crane with us to talk about her new book, "The Scandal of Virginia Grey." Wendy opens up about her personal journey through infidelity, her 20-year marriage to Reese that didn’t start out like a fairytale, and the healing process that followed. She shares the emotional experience of writing her book, which allowed her to confront past traumas and find redemption.Â
We discuss the importance of forgiveness, especially Wendy's unique relationship with Reese's ex-wife. Wendy hopes her story offers hope and understanding to others in similar situations, emphasizing that healing and t...
Preparing Parents and Kids for Spring Break in a Digital World

In this episode, I chat with Norma Q-Brown, our Family Care director, about preparing parents for spring break, especially regarding their children's online behavior and conversations about sexuality.Â
Norma provides practical strategies for parents to foster a safe environment for open dialogue, ensuring meaningful conversations about online safety and appropriate behavior – and not just over spring break. We discuss the importance of ongoing communication, setting clear expectations, and addressing idleness. We emphasize the value of empathy, vulnerability, and guiding children through their spiritual journeys, both in everyday life as well as times, like spring break, when schedules and...
Helping Men Practice Self-Awareness to Build Stronger Relationships

In today’s episode, Dr. Stephen Cervantes and I explore the importance of self-awareness in relationships, especially for husbands. We discuss how men can enhance their relationships by recognizing their interaction patterns and understanding their own emotional state and that of their wife’s.Â
Stephen emphasizes the value of men engaging with their wives through simple acts like sharing daily thoughts and curiosity, which can foster meaningful dialogue. We also touch on the challenges of communication, the impact of self-absorption, and the importance of processing disappointment with God first. Ultimately, the episode offers practical tools for men to nu...
Helping Parents Respond in Truth and Love to their LGBTQ-Identifying Child

In today’s episode, our guest is author and speaker Melinda Patrick. She transparently shares about her journey as a mother navigating her daughter's revelation of same-sex attraction. Melinda opens up about her initial reaction, driven by a desire to "fix" her daughter, and how this response strained their relationship.Â
She shares the struggles, shame, and guilt she faced, and the redemptive work God has done in their lives over time, even though they are very much in the “messy middle” of the journey. Melinda emphasizes the importance of love, listening, and understanding, offering valuable insights for parents...
The Key to Real and Lasting Freedom from Porn

In today’s episode, our guest is Noah Filipiak, a pastor, author, and podcaster who is passionate about applying the reality of the gospel to the real struggles and challenges of life, especially struggles with porn and sexual brokenness. Noah opens up about his personal struggles with pornography addiction, which began in his teenage years despite growing up in a Christian home. He shares how vulnerability, community, and a deeper relationship with Christ were key to his recovery.Â
We discuss the importance of addressing these issues of sexual brokenness openly within the church and fostering supportive communities. A b...
Working Through Emotional Disconnection in Marriage

In this episode, Stephen Cervantes and I dive into the ongoing struggles of emotional disconnection in marriage, sparked by one man’s agonizing question: How does a man live a good life while feeling alone and disconnect in his marriage?Â
We explore the pain of feeling isolated from a spouse and the importance of personal growth, faith, and community support.Â
Stephen shares wisdom on enduring suffering, finding joy beyond one’s spouse, and the necessity of a supportive network. We emphasize that personal transformation often happens through discomfort and that God's presence provides comfort and guidan...
How Can Mothers Heal and Thrive After Betrayal Trauma?

In this episode, our guest is Casey Allison, an expert in supporting mothers through betrayal trauma. Casey, a mother of nine, shares her personal journey of navigating betrayal in her marriage and its impact on her family.Â
She emphasizes the importance of healing for both mothers and their children, and the need for safety, support, and faith during these challenging times. Casey’s candid reflections on anger, authenticity, and revisiting her faith offer valuable insights and encouragement. She invites listeners to engage in support, reminding us that healing is possible through Christ and connection.
To lea...
Reflecting on 1000 Episodes: The Power of Grace, Community, and Personal Transformation

In this special 1000th episode, we take a heartfelt trip down memory lane, reflecting on our journey since the podcast got started way back in 2005. We share personal stories, discuss the evolution of the show, and emphasize the importance of grace and kindness in this challenging work.Â
We celebrate you, the community we’ve built together, and encourage you to reflect on your own experiences and the transformative power of God's grace. This episode is both a celebration of a huge milestone and an invitation for you to share your stories and engage deeply with the mission of...
Best of 2024: Living More than a Love Story

Originally Aired on February 7, 2024
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How important is trust to emotional health and building strong, mature relationships? It is vital! Yet, many men we have served in our ministry struggle terribly with trust.Â
In today’s episode, Stephen and I are going to dig into this important topic of trust through the lens of one man’s story that begins with him not being able to trust his parents with his thoughts and feelings and ends with him finally living a “love plus trust” story.Â
We will...
Best of 2024: Understanding God's Design for Sex in Today's Confused Culture

Originally Aired on May 1, 2024
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We have a goal of $118,000 to reach even more individuals and families in 2025 through this podcast and all our other ministries.
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In this episode, we're hanging out with the dynamic duo, Linda Stewart and Linda Noble, who share their journey and collaborative work in the world of sexual education and theology of th...
Pornography, Same-Sex Attraction, and Gospel Transformation

In this episode, our guest is Stephen Thomas, who bravely shares his journey through struggles with pornography and same-sex attraction. Stephen opens up about his Christian upbringing, the shame he felt for his early porn use, and the pivotal role of community, faith, and vulnerability in his healing process.Â
He recounts how early exposure to pornography led to a cycle of hiddenness and shame, and how opening up to his family and seeking therapy marked the beginning of his recovery. Stephen's story is a powerful reminder of the grace of God and the importance of authentic connections a...
From Betrayal to Bonding: Mark and Jill's Restoration Story

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In today’s episode, my guests are Mark and Jill Savage, a couple that understands struggle, betrayal, and restoration. They talk about their incredible journey, betrayal, and the journey to...
Dealing with Divorce, Betrayal Trauma, and Hope

In this episode, I welcome Kim Hansen Petroni, an expert in betrayal trauma healing. We dive into the challenges many women face when dealing with emotionally lifeless marriages or divorce. Kim shares her personal journey and professional insights, emphasizing the importance of safety, grief, and reconnecting with God and self.Â
We discuss the common lack of support from the church and the critical need for understanding and compassion. Kim offers practical tools for healing across physical, emotional, spiritual, and relational aspects. This episode is a beacon of hope, reminding women that healing from betrayal and a stronger s...
Understanding Man's Inner Sexual Conflict

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In this episode, Dr. Stephen Cervantes and I dive into the theme of temptation, especially regarding male sexuality and the internal conflicts it sparks. Through a role-playing exercise, we illustrate the dialogue between the mind, body, and spirit during m...
Lord Be Near: Finding Hope in Suffering Through Prayer

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In this episode, our guest is Ben Locke, author of "In Our Suffering Lord Be Near: Prayers of Hope for the Hurting." Ben shares his amazing journey from being a dedicated soccer player to facing severe injuries, abuse, and...
TRANSFORMED: How the Gospel Changed Linda Seiler's Mind & Heart

In this episode, I'm thrilled to welcome Dr. Linda Seiler, a remarkable advocate for addressing LGBTQ struggles through a Christian worldview. We dive into her personal journey, where she shares her experiences with gender identity confusion and her transformation after coming to faith in Christ.Â
Dr. Seiler discusses her book, "Transformation: A Former Transgender's Response to LGBTQ," highlighting her struggles, the power of Christ, and the importance of compassion and truth when addressing such complex and personal struggles. Our conversation emphasizes a clear gospel approach to sexual brokenness, offering hope and understanding for those navigating similar challenges. T...
Sadness and Hope: The Dynamic Duo of Personal Growth

In this episode, Dr. Stephen Cervantes and I dive into the complexities of personal growth, focusing on how childhood experiences shape adult behavior. We discuss insights from the "Gateway to Freedom" workshop, emphasizing the importance of recognizing our own choices while understanding the influences of our upbringing.Â
I admire Stephen’s work on DoctorMarriage.org and how he offers practical tools and tips for men wanting to live a full life of integrity. In our conversation, we explore themes of belonging, identity, and the emotional struggles many face. We highlight the coexistence of sadness and hope, encouraging lis...
Changed: The Amazing Transformation of a Former Lesbian Pastor

In this episode, we chat with the amazing Elizabeth Woning about her incredible journey of faith and sexuality. Elizabeth, once an openly lesbian woman who attended seminary, shares her experiences reconciling her sexuality with her faith in God.Â
We delve into her transformative encounters with God, the challenges of navigating faith within the LGBTQ+ community, and the importance of self-acceptance in light of the gospel. Elizabeth's story highlights the power of experiencing God's love and the ongoing journey of understanding one's true identity. Her insights offer hope and guidance for anyone grappling with similar issues. Join us f...
A Journey of Redemption and Healing

In this episode, I chat with Phil and Priscilla Fretwell about their incredible journey of healing and redemption from sexual brokenness in their marriage. They are the founders of Savage Marriage Ministries and help other couples overcome their past and fight for their future.
In our conversation, Phil opens up about his long-term struggle with pornography and the devastating impact it had on their relationship. Priscilla shares her raw emotions of betrayal and anger, and how she found the strength to forgive. Together, they highlight the importance of honesty, vulnerability, and seeking help. Their story is a...
The Sex Talk You Never Got

In this episode, I welcome Sam Jolman, a therapist, author, and father, to discuss his book, "The Sex Talk You Never Got: Reclaiming the Heart of Masculine Sexuality." Sam shares his journey into counseling, emphasizing the importance of meaningful conversations about sexuality.Â
We explore the impact of shame and purity culture, and the distinction between normal arousal and lust. Sam highlights the need for competent counseling and open dialogue to foster a healthier understanding of men's sexual formation. This episode is a heartfelt call to reclaim the beauty and complexity of human sexuality as God designed it.
Identifying and Meeting Needs in a Betrayed Wife

In this episode, I welcome back Lyschel Burket, an expert in helping women heal from betrayal trauma, especially in marriages affected by infidelity. Lyschel shares her personal journey and emphasizes the importance of community, safety, and communication in the healing process.Â
We discuss the unique emotional challenges women face after betrayal and the critical role of support and understanding from both partners and their community. Lyschel also highlights the spiritual aspect of healing, stressing how Christ provides hope and safety during suffering and grief. It’s a heartfelt conversation aimed at offering solace and guidance to those tra...
How to Make Sex Pleasurable and Fun Again

In this episode, we invite back Dr. Jennifer Degler, a clinical psychologist and marriage expert, to talk about making sex pleasurable and fun again, especially for couples dealing with betrayal or brokenness.Â
Dr. Degler shares her insights on the importance of pleasure within God's design for sex and offers practical steps for re-engaging with intimacy after betrayal. We discuss the necessity of communication, mindfulness, and sensory exploration to rebuild trust and enjoyment in sexual relationships. Jennifer’s tips and insightful anecdotes provide a refreshing perspective on rekindling passion and connection in marriage.
To learn more abo...
New Course: 40 Days of Healing for Wives

In this episode, I’m so excited to chat with Gigi Hopkins, our Wives Care Director, and Andrea Stunz, our Marketing Manager and Wives Care Aftercare Coordinator, about our new online resource, "40 Days of Healing for Wives." This course is crafted to support women dealing with the pain of betrayal in their marriages, especially sexual betrayal.Â
We dive into the course's development, its structure, and the importance of pacing and journaling. Gigi and Andrea share heartfelt insights on fostering healing, the power of community support, and how faith plays a crucial role in the healing journey for wiv...
Mr. Unemotional: Moving from Isolation to Connection

In this episode, we dive into the emotional struggles men face, especially those recovering from addiction. We explore the concept of "Mr. Unemotional," describing men who find it hard to express their feelings due to past experiences or societal pressures.Â
Stephen Cervantes and I discuss the importance of emotional growth alongside behavioral recovery. We share insights on how men can better understand and articulate their emotions, emphasizing the need for openness and support from partners and friends. The episode highlights the journey toward emotional maturity, encouraging men to embrace change for deeper, more fulfilling relationships.
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Her Freedom Journey (with Dr. Joy Skarka)

In this episode, I have back on the program our delightful friend and colleague Dr. Joy Skarka to talk about her new book, "Her Freedom Journey: A Guide Out of Porn and Shame to Authentic Intimacy," co-authored with Dr. Juli Slattery. Joy shares her personal journey and the mission of Authentic Intimacy, a ministry dedicated to helping individuals reclaim God's design for sexuality.Â
We discuss the unique challenges women face with pornography, the importance of understanding God's unconditional love, and the journey toward sexual integrity – which emphasizes the power of truth, engaging community, and sharing one's story to...
Real Stories of Recovery & Hope

In this episode, I chat with three amazing leaders from Prodigals International: Steve Dulaney, president of Prodigals, Sam Louie, a licensed mental health counselor, and Fausto Estrada, one of their group leaders. Steve shares how Prodigals International began as a faith-based support group for men struggling with sexual addiction and intimacy disorders, emphasizing the importance of community and accountability. Sam opens up about his journey from addiction to recovery, influenced by his background as an Asian immigrant. He highlights how group therapy and supportive mentors transformed his life. Fausto shares his recovery story and how it has culminated in...
Talking About Taboo (with Mike Novotny)

In this episode, I chat with Mike Novotny, pastor, speaker, and author of "Taboo: Topics Christians Should Be Talking About But Don't." We dive into sensitive subjects like anxiety, depression, addiction, and especially sexuality within the Christian community.Â
Mike shares his personal journey of overcoming pornography addiction and stresses the importance of open discussions in the church. We explore God's design for sex, emphasizing that understanding and obeying biblical truths can lead to healing and transformation. Mike encourages listeners to seek grace, find trustworthy confidants, and take steps toward wholeness in Christ.
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Helping Families Build a Healthy Relationship with Technology

In this episode, I welcome Sarah Siegand to the program, co-founder of Parents Who Fight and an expert in helping parents navigate technology's impact on children. We dive into the importance of modeling healthy tech habits, delaying access to devices, and educating parents about online safety. Sarah shares her personal journey, emphasizing the need for intentionality in family tech use.Â
We discuss the five phases of tech training:Â
ModelingDelayingProtectingMonitoringReleasingSarah provides practical tips and insights, aiming to empower parents to create a safe and balanced digital environment for their kids. It's a th...