Stacking Slabs
Welcome to the Stacking Slabs, a podcast for sports cards collectors. There's been a tremendous amount of change to our Hobby over the last few years and the one constant has been the passion from the collecting community. Stacking Slabs is built by the collector and lives to tell stories for the collector.
The Football Card Podcast #45: Post-Draft Hype, Chrome Curiosity, and the Cards We Regret Selling
The draft is over.
Now the real game starts.
John and Brett break down what happens next for collectors when hype meets reality. New rookies enter the system. Narratives form fast. Prices follow.
They talk about why every draft pick looks like a future Hall of Famer right now… and why that feeling never lasts.Â
The conversation moves into collecting decisions that stick.
Selling a card you should have kept.
Chasing players before they prove anything.
Knowing when to ignore comps and whe...
Apex Cards and the Truth About Conformity in Collecting
What makes a card an apex?
And who decided it in the first place?
This episode started with a simple question coming out of a recent conversation with Card Ladder. But it turned into something bigger.
A look at how collectors think.
How the market shapes what you chase.
And why so many of us follow a path that was already drawn.
You’ll hear:
Your Collection, Your Hierarchy
Every card a collector buys is tied to a story.
Some come from personal taste.
Some come from brands.
Some come from the environment around the hobby.
In this episode, Brett breaks down how those stories shape what collectors chase.
He explores the difference between collector-driven taste and manufacturer-driven narratives.
And how inserts, naming, and product design influence perception of importance.
He also shares a recent example from 2026 Topps Chrome WWE that challenged his own preferences.
The core message is simple:
Card Ladder Confidential #19: The Same Apex Cards or a Market Ready for Change?
Big sales hit the timeline all at once.
A Kobe Bryant PMG Green.
A Michael Jordan game jersey auto.
Multiple seven-figure deals in a matter of days.
It felt like the hobby stopped and stared.
But what did it really mean?
In this episode of Card Ladder Confidential, I sit down with Chris and Josh from Card Ladder to break it down.
We get into the tension every serious collector feels right now.
Are these still the cards that define the hobby?<...
Passion to Profession: Building a Career on Content and Taking the Leap with John Walaszek
What does it look like to turn your passion into your profession more than once?
In this episode of Passion to Profession, Brett sits down with John Walaszek, Content Strategist at PSA, to unpack the path from music blogs to the sports card industry.
John didn’t wait for permission. He built.
He started a blog when no one replied to his emails.
He created content when no role existed for it.
He followed what held his attention and turned it into a career.
Now he’s do...
The WNBA Card Podcast: The Future Is Already Here: The Next Generation with Christian and Sam from @therookiescorner
The future of women’s basketball cards is not coming. It’s already here.
Katelyn is joined by Sam and Christian from @therookiescorner to talk about what it means to collect players before the hobby tells you who matters.
This conversation is about the shift happening right now.
From reacting to prices
To forming your own opinions
From waiting for consensus
To collecting in uncertainty
They break down:
Booked to Last #16: Oba's Arrival, Roman's Era, and the Card Market Shift
WrestleMania delivered moments that will shape wrestling and the card market for years.
Adam, Ryan, and Brett break it all down.
They start with the split between Night 1 and Night 2 and why it felt like two different shows. Then they get into the moments that mattered.
Oba Femi stepping into the spotlight.
Roman Reigns reminding everyone who runs the business.
CM Punk proving he belongs on the biggest stage.
They also go deeper than the matches.
What actually moved the card market.
...
The Football Card Podcast #44: Temptation, Timing, and the Truth About New Cards
The new release cycle is loud.
Prices move fast.
Cards show up everywhere.
Everyone has an opinion.
In this episode, Brett and Pack sit in that tension.
They break down what they’re seeing with Topps Chrome Football.
The temptation to jump in early.
The pressure created by volume, hype, and social feeds.
There’s a real story here.
A $25 pull turns into a $15K ask overnight.
A $1K offer gets ignored.
And suddenly you’re asking yourself what any of...
From Hype to Meaning: How Your Collecting Motivations Change
Last week sparked a wave of reflection.
This week goes deeper.
If your collection is a reflection of you, then what happens when you change?
In this episode, Brett breaks down how collecting motivations shift over time. Not in theory. In real life.
He explores why most collectors enter the hobby reacting to hype, momentum, and the promise of fast outcomes… and what happens when that stops working.
You’ll hear:
The Psychology Behind New Releases and Why You Keep Chasing
New releases drive the hobby.
They grab your attention.
They push you to act.
In this episode, Brett breaks down the psychology behind new product cycles.
From chasing Shaquille O'Neal rookies to the nonstop hype around Topps Chrome, the playbook is the same. The volume is not.
FOMO.
Anchoring.
Narratives.
If you collect, you need to understand what is influencing your decisions.
Because the collectors who slow down and think build better collections over time.
Check out...
The Staging Area #23: The New Release Trap, eBay Changes, and the Cost of Attention
New releases are everywhere right now.
You feel it.
The noise.
The urgency.
The pressure to act.
In this episode, Brett and Tory break down what is really happening in the hobby. They start with eBay’s new buyer cancellation policy and what it means for sellers, buyers, and auction integrity. Tory shares what it looks like operating at scale and why this change matters more than people think.
Then they shift into the main topic. The new release attention economy.
Topps Chrome Football just dr...
Passion to Profession: Building What the Hobby Relies On with BCW Supplies CEO Eric Brownell
What does it take to build a business that the entire hobby depends on?
In this episode of Passion to Profession, Brett sits down with Eric Brownell, CEO and President of BCW Supplies.
You’ve used their products.
Top loaders. Sleeves. Storage.
But you probably haven’t thought about what it takes to keep the hobby stocked when demand explodes.
Eric shares the story behind BCW’s growth from a small family business into a 100+ person operation that supports collectors, hobby shops, breakers, and distributors across the country.Â
Booked to Last #15: WrestleMania, Chrome Chaos, and a chat with Bryan (@THZSportscards)
WrestleMania is here.
Adam and Ryan break down the matches that matter. Not only for wrestling fans, but for collectors paying attention to where value moves next.
They dig into what needs to happen.
Who wins matters. But why it matters for cards is the real conversation.
Then it shifts.
Topps Chrome WWE hits the market and everything changes.
The product is getting ripped everywhere.
Big cards are moving fast.
Some sales make sense. Others don’t.
This is where collectors ge...
The Football Card Podcast #43: Topps Chrome Frenzy, Froth Season, and the Cards That Make No Sense
Topps Chrome Football is here.
And the hobby is already moving fast.
We break down what we’re seeing in real time. The hype. The pricing. The decisions collectors are making beforeÂ
the dust settles.
A Jaxson Dart auto out of /275 sparks a $2K debate. What does that say about where we are right now?
We talk through:
Finding Your Lane in a Noisy Hobby with James (@madcitycollector)
Brett sits down with James (@madcitycollector), creator of The Soccer Card Collective Podcast, to explore what happens when a collector ignores the spotlight and builds his own lane.
James shares why he chose soccer cards over more crowded markets, how nostalgia shapes his decisions, and what he’s learned by studying overlooked players, sets, and eras.
The conversation digs into:
 Why modern attention is narrow and where opportunity exists  How to collect with intention instead of following hype  The role of nostalgia, lineage, and discovery in building a collection  What the soccer card community...You Don’t Have a Collection. You Have a Reflection.
Collectors often believe they are building collections.
This episode challenges that idea.
In this flagship conversation, Brett explores the concept that every collection is a reflection of the person behind it. Drawing from consumer psychology research and personal collecting experience, he breaks down how buying decisions reveal deeper signals around identity, control, risk, patience, and validation.
Through real examples and practical questions, this episode pushes collectors to think beyond surface-level decisions and examine why they acquire what they do.
Key themes include:
• buying certainty vs. buying co...
Topps Chrome Football Has No Competition and What This Means
Topps Chrome Football is back.
But this time it stands alone.
No competing brand. No second option. No alternative lane.
That changes how you collect.
In this episode, I’m not breaking down the checklist or the hits. You can find that anywhere.
I’m focused on what this moment reveals about you as a collector.
For years, your decisions were shaped by comparison.
The question shifts from what do you like more to do you participate at all.
T...
Passion to Profession: From Card Breaker to CEO with Ryan Johnson (@cardcollector2)
Ryan Johnson didn’t set out to build a 35-person company.
He wanted to open cards.
Share what he was buying.
Be the resource he never had.
Then the business grew.
In this conversation, Ryan walks through the shift from collector and content creator to operator responsible for people, systems, and outcomes.
We talk about:
The WNBA Card Podcast: The Weight of Expectations and How Paige Met the Moment with Ryan (@reservoirsportscards)
Katelyn sits down with Ryan (@reservoirsportscards), a UConn collector who went all in on Paige Bueckers before the market caught up.
This is a conversation about conviction.
Ryan didn’t start as a collector. He started flipping cards. Watching markets. Chasing value.
Then Paige changed everything.
What started as an idea turned into a strategy.
Then a PC.
Then an obsession.
We get into:
Booked to Last #14: Topps Chrome Takeover, Industry Secrets, and the Future of Wrestling Cards
This is one of the biggest weeks wrestling cards has seen in years.
Adam and Ryan break down everything happening right now.
Topps Chrome WWE is live. Prices are high. Demand is higher. The product feels like a turning point.
Ryan shares what he saw firsthand at the Topps Industry Conference. What matters. What doesn’t. And what collectors should be paying attention to.
They get into:
• Why Chrome feels different this year
• What the future of Fanatics’ ecosystem looks like
• How premium products like Royal...
The Football Card Podcast #42: Topps Chrome Football Is Back… Now What?
Topps Chrome Football returns and the hobby is already moving fast.
In this episode, we break down what this release really means for collectors.
Where the hype is coming from.
Why positioning matters more than ever.
And how to avoid getting caught chasing the wrong things.
We also get into:
• The reality of breakers dominating early supply
• Why “first year” narratives need to be questioned
• How to think about parallels when nothing has history yet
• The tension between chasing new vs staying focused on your lane
Shrink the Sea: Why Niching Down Builds Stronger Collectors
The hobby isn’t one market. It’s many.
But we still act like everything should live under one roof.
In this episode, I push on a simple idea. The hobby gets stronger when we get more focused. Not bigger. Narrower.
When everything sits in one place, collectors get lost. They default to the loudest voices and the most visible cards.Â
Depth disappears.
When you shrink the sea, something changes.
Collectors find their lane.
They find people who collect like them.
They build...
Patience is the Difference Maker: How to Collect When Everything Tells You to Buy Now
There is more money, more cards, and more noise in the hobby than ever before.
Over $605M in monthly sales.Â
Every platform is built to keep you moving.
Scrolling. Watching. Bidding. Buying.
So where does patience fit?
In this episode, I slow things down and challenge a hard question.
Can patience survive in a system designed to push you to act fast?
I break down the forces working against you.
Why urgency feels real.
Why auctions pull you in.
Why losing a...
The Staging Area #22: The Ohtani Effect, $605M Month, and Why the Hobby Won’t Slow Down
Brett and Tory break down a record-setting moment in the hobby.
Card Ladder reports $605M in monthly sales.
dcsports87 hits its biggest month ever.
And a Shohei Ohtani All Aces PSA 10 sells for over $15K.
This conversation goes deeper than headlines.
You’ll hear what happens when content drives brand growth.
Why niche categories like wrestling and TCG are heating up.
How scarcity, demand, and perception collide in today’s market.
And what Ohtani is doing to rewrite the rules collectors have followed for years.
Passion to Profession: From Pulling a LeBron Logoman to Running a Breaking Empire with Ethan of Tombstone Collectibles
What happens when a single moment turns into a career?
Ethan from Tombstone Collectibles joins Passion to Profession to break down how one pull opened the door… and what it actually takes to build a modern hobby business at scale.
This is not a conversation about ripping packs.
This is about building infrastructure, managing talent, and operating in a market that moves fast.
We get into:
 Why most breakers fail before they ever get started  The importance of relationships in live selling  How Tombstone scaled from one stream to a mu...Booked to Last #13: Chrome Is Coming… So What Are You Doing With Your Money?
Adam and Ryan are back and the timing couldn’t be bigger.
With Topps Chrome around the corner, the wrestling card calendar is about to hit hard. Exalted is here. Chrome is next. Then more follows.
The question isn’t what’s coming.
It’s how you’re going to handle it.
In this episode, they break down:
The Football Card Podcast #41: Patience, Pricing, and the Problem with How We Move Cards
You feel it every time you log in.
Everything is moving fast.
Listings. Prices. Decisions.
The hobby wants you to act now.
In this episode, Brett and Pack slow it down and ask a harder question:
Can you stay patient when everything around you pushes speed?
They get into:
Building in Public: How to Scale a Dealer Business Online and In-Person with Max (@Cardsmax)
What does it look like to go all in on cards and make it work?
In this conversation, Brett sits down with Max (@Cardsmax), a full-time dealer who has built his business in the open. He shares how he went from ripping packs as a kid to running a national buying and selling operation driven by shows, eBay, and content.
Max breaks down the reality of life as a dealer. The travel. The shipping pressure. The constant decisions around where to deploy capital. He explains why understanding your buyer matters more than chasing the next...
Discovery Gets Real When You Find the People
Discovery doesn’t end when you find the card.
That’s where most collectors stop. That’s where most collectors miss.
In this flagship episode, I take the next step from last week and break down what really drives better collecting. It’s not being early. It’s not guessing right.
It’s finding the people who already know what you’re chasing.
I share a message that stopped me in my tracks and forced me to rethink discovery. Then we get into how community shapes your edge.
You’ll hear:<...
Card Ladder Confidential #18: Why Patience Wins in a Market That Won't Slow Down
The market is running. Prices are climbing. Headlines are everywhere.
And yet… the smartest collectors aren’t chasing.
In this episode of Card Ladder Confidential, I sit down with Card Ladder team members Chris McGill and Josh Johnson to break down what’s really happening right now.
We start with the data.
February recorded $481M in online card sales. An all-time high.Â
But numbers don’t tell the full story.
We get into:
Passion to Profession: How Black Gold Sports Cards Doubled Their Team in a Year
On this episode of Passion to Profession, Brett sits down with Bryan Thiessenhusen, CEO of Black GoldÂ
Sports Cards.
Bryan didn’t start with an advantage. He started with tubs of cards, a full-time accounting job, and a willingness to take risk.
What followed was a fast build.
He turned grading prep into revenue.
Turned live streaming into scale.
Turned a side hustle into a 30+ person operation.
In this conversation, Bryan breaks down:
The WNBA Card Podcast: Everything Feels Different Now — The Caitlin Clark Effect with John Broggi (@johnbroggi)
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Booked to Last #12: WWE Chrome Debut Patch Chase Is Here + The Shop Owner Perspective with Jamison of Port City Sports Collectibles
With Ryan out this week, Adam Gellman is joined by Jamison Long of Port City Sports Collectibles to talk wrestling cards from a different angle.
Jamison has built one of the fastest growing card shops in the country. He also collects at a high level. That combination creates a different lens on the hobby.
They cover:
• What changes when you go from collector to shop owner
• Why most collectors misunderstand wax pricing
• The importance of community inside a card shop
• WWE Chrome debut patches and why they matter
• Big...
The Football Card Podcast #40: The Briggs Bandit, $31K Gronk, and Why You’ll Always Miss Cards
Pack and Brett open Episode 40 with a real-time hobby mystery.
A stolen 2025 Prizm Gold Lance Briggs resurfaces across state lines. The hunt is on. Questions start stacking. How many cards disappear before they ever hit public data?
From there, the conversation shifts to what collectors are feeling right now.
The pressure.
The speed.
The constant sense of missing out.
They break down why the hobby feels like a sprint even when everyone says it’s a marathon.
The episode also covers:
• The...
What 12 Hobby Operators Know That Collectors Can Miss
Collectors think in comps.
Operators think in systems.
That gap is where mistakes happen.
In this episode, I break down what I learned from 12 hobby operators and how it applies to your decisions as a collector.
We cover:
• Why trust is the product
• Why reacting leads to regret
• How operators actually view comps
• The role of systems and communication
The hobby is growing.
But the rules are not evenly distributed.
If you understand how operators think, you put...
Discovery Is the Edge Most Collectors Ignore
When was the last time you found a card before the hobby told you it mattered?
Not after the sale.
Not after the post.
Not after everyone started chasing it.
Before.
This episode is about discovery and why it is one of the most powerful advantages you can build as a collector.
We are living in a headline-driven hobby.
Attention dictates demand.
Most collectors are choosing from the same small list of cards.
That creates competition.
It creates pressure.<...
The Staging Area #21: WBC Hype, Opening Day, and The WhatNot of It All
Opening Day is here.
Energy is high. Attention is shifting. And the hobby is reacting in real time.
Tory and I dig into what just happened with the World Baseball Classic and what it actually means for you as a collector. Not the surface-level hype. The real takeaway.
We talk about:
Why moments like WBC create short windows of opportunityWhat happens when demand spikes and how to act on itA Kobe Atomic sale that says more about the market than you thinkWhy Topps Dynasty prices aren’t as crazy as they lookThe ps...Passion to Profession: Husband and Wife. One Business. Fifteen Hires in a Year with Michael and Mikaela from Rated Rips
What happens when you walk away from stability to bet on cards?
Michael and Mikaela did it.
Both were CPAs. Both were on a clear path. Then COVID hit. Breaking started. Demand showed up fast. And within months, everything changed.
They built Rated Rips from late-night breaks into a full-scale consignment business.
They hired 15 people in a year.
They shifted from taking money out of the hobby to putting money back into collectors’ hands.
In this conversation, we get into what it really looks like to bu...
The WNBA Card Podcast: Panini and Sabrina — The Rise of New Forces with Kyle (@kyle_collects)
This episode is about a moment that changed everything.
Katelyn sits down with Kyle (@kyle_collects) to break down the shift from 2019 Donruss to 2020 Prizm and why that stretch still shapes how collectors approach WNBA cards today.
They talk through what it felt like to discover WNBA cards before the spotlight. Ripping boxes no one wanted. Finding cards that never made it to showcases. Learning the players one card at a time.
Then everything changed.
Prizm arrived. Sabrina entered the hobby. The world shut down. People started paying attention.
...
Booked to Last #11: From Blaster Boxes to Building a Collection of 1/1s with Steve (@s.a.m_wwe)
Adam and Ryan sit down with Steve(@s.a.m_wwe) , one of the most focused Rhea Ripley collectors in the hobby.
The conversation starts with a simple moment. A blaster box in 2022. That moment turns into chasing rainbows, building sets, and eventually acquiring 1/1 cards.
This episode is about how that happens.
Steve shares how he built his collection from scratch. Why he chose Rhea Ripley. And how relationships helped him land cards most collectors never even see.
They also break down what’s happening right now in wrestling ca...