Revenue Rascals | Sales Strategies for Business Growth
Ready to ditch average and build revenue with more profit, more fun, and zero fluff? The Revenue Rascals Podcast is where sales-leaders, founders, entrepreneurs, and business-owners come to fuel their growth. Each week, you’ll get unfiltered insights and proven sales-playbooks designed to help you scale smarter and faster. Whether you’re a CRO chasing big targets, a startup-sales rascal pre-revenue, or a CMO looking for fresh strategies that actually work.Hosted with a mix of energy, execution, and “you can do this” confidence, this isn’t another generic business show. You’ll hear the same strategies paying clients get: personal-bra...
Growing a Travel Advisory Business (That’s Not an MLM)
What does it take to build a thriving travel advisory business from scratch — twice?
Michelle sits down with Ali Raymer of Picture This Travel, a former high school English teacher who went from organizing student trips to Europe to becoming the sole breadwinner for her family after selling $2.5 million in travel in a single year. Ali breaks down how the modern travel advisory model works—and why most people misunderstand it.She draws a clear line between order-taking agents and true client-focused advisors, and explains why that distinction is everything when it comes to building long-term, referral-driven revenue.
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The Revenue Leak No One is Talking About | The Truth About TAM, AI, and Revenue Growth with Kurt Uhlir
What if your biggest revenue problem isn’t a sales problem?
In this episode, Michelle sits down with Kurt Uhlir to discuss what’s really holding companies back from scaling their revenue. Kurt argues that one of the biggest and most common problems in companies today is leadership misalignment. As generations grow older, the disconnect between people also scales. He explains what TAM is and how teams are unknowingly shrinking it, leaving money on the table. Kurt gives his thoughts on the hidden gaps that limit growth and how to overcome them.
Michelle and Kurt unpack the r...
Consultants vs AI Tools | Handling Sales Objections with AI Roleplay
In the age of AI tools, clients think they can replace strategy with a software subscription. They are wrong.
Michelle runs two live roleplays around the most common AI-skeptic objections coaches, consultants, and service providers face right now. Scenario one: the founder who thinks AI outreach replaces sales strategy. Scenario two: the CEO who thinks a churn dashboard replaces a retention system. Watch what happens when you stop defending your rate and start showing the gap. This is not a debate about tools versus humans. This is about who builds the system that makes the tools worth buying.
Why Founders are Saying “No” to Your Fractional CRO Pitch (And How to Fix It)
Is your sales leadership pitch falling flat? Stop it from happening by shifting your focus to value-based pricing.
Michelle takes on the challenge of facing other people’s sales objections head-on with some sales roleplay. Michelle breaks down real situations, using AI voices to demonstrate different scenarios in real-time and showcase what founders and sellers should do differently to increase revenue and retention. Learn how to respond to founder objections, position your role, and change the outcome.
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[Start] Introduction: Michelle introduces the episode by highlighting common revenue pitfalls an...
Why Your Sales Team Isn’t Closing Deals (And How to Fix It) with Garrett Campbell
Here’s the truth: you don’t have a sales problem—you have a sales management problem.
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Garrett Campbell, founder of Objectionly, for a conversation about sales, AI, and what it takes to build a high-performing revenue engine. Garrett shares the origin story behind Objectionly and the insight that sparked it: the difference between high-performing and underperforming sales teams isn’t talent—it’s management, feedback, and systems.
They unpack how AI is transforming the way sales teams operate, shifting toward more data-driven performance and faster feedback loops. This episode dives into the fou...
7 Ways to 7 Figures in Revenue Growth | Thought Leadership with Aurora Winter
What if the real reason your content isn’t converting isn’t effort, but that it sounds like everyone else’s?
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Aurora Winter, serial entrepreneur, author, and founder of Same Page Publishing, to unpack what it really takes to stand out in a world flooded with AI-generated content. Aurora challenges one of the most common assumptions in modern marketing: that more content equals more growth. Instead, she argues that AI hasn’t replaced great marketers—it’s eliminated average ones. The conversation reframes personal branding as a strategic asset rooted in storytelling, positioning, and clarity...
4 Sales Mistakes and How to Avoid Them | Building a Sales Team with John Dinkel
If you want to leave founder-led sales, here’s everything you need to know to build a successful sales team and avoid pitfalls along the way.
Michelle Terpstra sits down with John Dinkel, the founder of LaunchPod Media, to break down what it actually takes to grow a business. John opens up about the mistakes he made while trying to step out of founder-led sales and the lessons he learned (good and bad) while trying to hire and scale his sales team.
Michelle and John discuss the patterns that lead to these failures, and everything you ne...
The Science of Selling | How Your Nervous System Impacts Every Sales Call
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra breaks down a hidden factor influencing sales performance that most training programs overlook: your nervous system. After reviewing hundreds of sales calls, Michelle explains how she can often predict the outcome of a deal within the first minute —not based on the pitch, script, or offer, but on the seller’s physiological state. When a seller enters a call stressed, rushed, or reactive, their brain shifts into survival mode, making it harder to listen deeply, ask strong questions, or guide the conversation with confidence.
Drawing on neuroscience and performance psychology, Michelle explores what actu...
The Sales System Every Founder Needs | How to Build Sustainable Revenue with Megan Hale
Michelle Terpstra is joined by Megan Hale, founder of Dream Money, to talk about what entrepreneurs need to really build sustainable revenue. Together, they explore one of the most overlooked elements of business growth: financial clarity. Most founders try to sell more to solve their financial problems, but Megan explains why that approach often misses the mark. Instead, she emphasizes the importance of understanding your numbers and building structured revenue models to manage your cash flow. These are the things that can dramatically change how your business grows.
Megan also shares her story behind creating Dream Money and...
Sales Strategy Fix for Founder Burnout | Why Most Founders Struggle to Reach Their First $1M
Michelle Terpstra tackles a topic most founders experience but rarely talk about honestly: burnout. Drawing from her own experience after hitting a breaking point while building her company and moving her family across the country, Michelle reframes burnout not as a grit problem, but as a go-to-market problem. When a business lacks clarity around its offer, audience, and acquisition channels, the founder’s nervous system ends up carrying the weight of every decision.
Michelle walks listeners through patterns she consistently sees in founders trying to reach their first $1M in annual recurring revenue. From constant offer pivots and un...
6 Fixes to Win and Keep Customers with Rion Westfall | Stop Losing Customers Before You Start
Michelle Terpstra is joined by strategist and systems expert Rion Westfall. With his expertise, the two have a conversation about business revenue patterns and how they can become one of your most powerful tools. Most companies unknowingly sabotage their own growth when they disregard these trends. Rion shares insights on how you can create systems that give your revenue a boost rather than make it drop.
To help companies recognize and improve their revenue patterns, Rion introduces his six-step framework designed to help address problems companies might not even know they have. He shows where revenue leaks can...
How to Engineer an Ecosystem That Multiplies Lifetime Value | A Case Study of Clean Simple Eats
Michelle Terpstra uses Clean Simple Eats as a live case study to break down what happens when a fast-scaling brand builds multiple growth channels, but doesn’t fully integrate them into one cohesive ecosystem. This is not a critique of the company. It’s a strategic breakdown designed to teach founders, operators, and consultants how to spot revenue leaks hiding in plain sight.
Using publicly available information, Michelle evaluates channel expansion, subscription structure, app integration, retail distribution, and packaging strategy through the lens of lifetime value and ecosystem design. She explores how retail and Amazon customers can be brou...
Growing from Invisible to Iconic | Building Personal Brands with Shauna Smith
Michelle Terpstra is joined by branding strategist Shauna Smith of Marketing Muse 360 to explore why personal branding is more than a vanity project—it’s a growth strategy. Shauna gives her framework to help you increase sales while staying true to your brand, explaining how authenticity can boost your revenue and strengthen trust with your clients.
Shauna introduces her “Invisible to Iconic” framework, outlining everything you need to know about strategies, conversion, and client trust. If you’re a CEO, founder, consultant, or revenue leader, this episode will give you all the tools you need to stand out in any cro...
How to Leave Your 9-5 and Build a Fractional CRO Firm (Without Blowing Up Your Life)
The traditional 9-5 grind isn’t for everyone. If you’ve ever thought about leaving the structured work life but don’t know how, Michelle shares a strategic framework to help make your transition even smoother. This isn’t vague “follow your dreams” advice. This is grounded, experience-backed insight on how to prepare every step of the way, making sure you’re ready to take the leap.
Michelle also lays out the hard truths that no one else wants to tell you, but you need to hear to see profit and success through this transition. No matter what your goals are...
The Risk No One Warned Sellers About | AI Pricing Models with Roee Hartuv
In this episode, Michelle is joined by Roee Hartuv for a conversation on AI pricing models and how to stay profitable as margins face new pressure. As AI continues to disrupt traditional revenue structures, comfortable pricing models are no longer enough. Roee and Michelle talk about how leaders can redesign pricing strategies to reduce risk while accelerating growth and revenue.
Roee breaks down how AI is reshaping company margins and why hybrid pricing models will be the safest route going forward. This isn’t just theory—it’s a practical strategy rooted in value-based pricing that helps businesses adapt...
Stuck as a Consultant? | How to Step Into a Fractional CRO Role
Michelle Terpstra delivers a no-fluff breakdown of the fractional CRO role, and why so many high-performing consultants feel mispositioned, under-leveraged, and capped even while they’re driving executive-level outcomes.
If you’re consistently pulled into bigger conversations like pricing, go-to-market, team structure, revenue priorities, but you’re still being scoped like a specialist, this episode puts language to what you’re already doing and shows you how to step into the role with clarity. The difference isn’t the work. It’s the level of responsibility attached to it.
Michelle defines what a fractional CRO actually is (and what...
Every Yes Drives a No | Building a Business that Aligns with Your Values with Ashlee Sang
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Ashlee Sang, messaging strategist and founder of Ashlee Sang Consulting, for a candid conversation about the decisions that shape a business and a life. Inspired by the idea that every yes inherently creates a no, they explore what it really means to grow a company with intention. Together, they unpack the tension many founders feel between ambition and alignment, and how values-driven decision making can create a business that is sustainable, profitable, and deeply personal.
Ashlee shares how her work has evolved from traditional marketing and messaging support into guiding entrepreneurs through conscious...
Why Most Follow-Ups Fail and How To Fix It
Michelle breaks down why most follow-up strategies fail. She reframes follow-up as leadership, shifting focus from stressing over sales to supporting a prospect’s decision-making process. When done correctly, follow-up builds trust and creates momentum toward meaningful next steps.
Michelle introduces a follow-up decision tree to help leaders match their communication style to the buyer’s stage. She emphasizes that clarity and relevance are more important than tactics and highlights the importance of personalized selling. Michelle offers a strategic blueprint for closing more sales while strengthening your brand.
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[Start] Why Follow-Up Fail...
The Leads You’re Missing | Finding Clients with Jennifer Frye
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Jennifer Frye, founder of Appreciated Assets, to break down one of the most misunderstood parts of building revenue: lead generation. If finding clients has started to feel exhausting, overwhelming, or harder than it should be, this conversation offers a much-needed reframe. Michelle and Jennifer show why most qualified leads aren’t missing—they’re simply being overlooked.
Together, they walk through practical, low-friction ways to uncover opportunities already sitting inside your warm network, events, lists, and social platforms. From mindset shifts around outreach to smarter use of AI and intent-based targeting, this episode gives...
Don’t Make it Weird | Turning Friendly Conversations Into Revenue
Host Michelle unpacks what it takes to turn your existing relationships into sales opportunities, without risking the relationship itself. She shares her playbook of tips and tricks to help you learn how to share your sales pitch in a natural way without feeling awkward, all while building even stronger connections with people.
Michelle also gives real examples of successful revenue leaders and what they do to increase sales with people they already know. No matter how established you may be, her advice can help at any stage in the process. Everyone has relationships of some kind, but it...
How to Build a Balanced Marketing Strategy | The Marketing Diet with Travis Isaacson
Michelle Terpstra sits down with fractional Chief Marketing Officer Travis Isaacson to unpack why so many businesses waste money on marketing that was never right for them in the first place. Travis introduces his “Marketing Diet” framework, a practical, easy-to-apply way to understand what your business actually needs to grow, and just as importantly, what it should stop doing.
Together, they break down the four stages of sustainable marketing success: setting the table, fishing, hunting, and farming. From fixing broken messaging and brand alignment to testing paid channels, integrating sales and marketing, and building long-term trust through farming stra...
You Didn’t Hire the Wrong Rep. | You Designed the Wrong Sales Role
Michelle Terpstra challenges one of the most common assumptions in sales: that a struggling sales team means you hired the wrong person. Instead, she views failure as a role-design problem, not a talent problem. Michelle walks listeners through why vague expectations and mismatched responsibilities can derail revenue long before performance ever has a chance to stabilize.
She introduces a practical framework for building a “founding hybrid account executive” role: someone who can generate pipeline, run sales conversations, and close deals in scaling companies. Michelle breaks down quotas and talks about lead volume requirements to show how to move from...
The Hidden Cost of Being a High Performer | Managing Emotions in the Workplace with Chris Yadon
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Chris Yadon from Saprea, to explore a reality most leaders avoid talking about: emotions are already in the workplace—and ignoring them is costing performance. Together, they challenge the belief that emotional distance equals strength and unpack how hyperproductivity, emotional numbing, and fear of failure quietly shape high-performing cultures.
Chris explains why discomfort isn’t the same as toxicity, how psychological safety can exist without turning work into therapy, and why many top performers tie their identity to output at the expense of connection. This conversation offers practical guidance for leaders who want stron...
When Hustle Stops Working | What I’d Fix First if Your Revenue Was Flat
Michelle Terpstra tackles the frustrating realities of flat revenue in business growth. Instead of treating stagnation as a failure, she reframes it as a signal that something in the sales engine is unclear or inconsistent. Michelle walks listeners through why adding more leads or tactics often creates more chaos, and why simplicity and discipline are the real drivers of predictable growth.
She introduces a practical “CRO order of operations” designed to help revenue leaders regain control without burning out their teams. From offer clarity to organizational focus, Michelle emphasizes the importance of building systems that scale. This execution-first appr...
Who Really Makes Money on Your Groceries? | The Farm-to-Shelf Business Model with Ricky Volpe
This week, Michelle Terpstra sits down with Dr. Ricky Volpe, a professor of agribusiness at Cal Poly specializing in food retail and supply chain economics, to unpack what’s really driving food prices, grocery store margins, and profitability from farm to shelf. This conversation reframes the food system as a business ecosystem shaped by data, power, and strategic decision-making, not just inflation headlines. Ricky explains why most farms are price-takers, how consolidation has reshaped agriculture, and why the farm share of the food dollar is far smaller than most people expect.
Michelle and Ricky then explore one of the...
How to Use AI the Right Way for Growth | The Enablement Model for 2026
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra gives a breakdown of why traditional sales training no longer works, and why most teams are about to misuse AI. She challenges a long-standing assumption in enablement: that more training equals better results. Instead, Michelle makes the case that training without execution support is obsolete in a sales environment that changes every day.
She introduces a new standard for sales enablement in 2026: AI-reinforced execution that lives inside real deals. Michelle explains how AI should function as a coach by reinforcing company decision-making rather than replacing seller thinking. With practical examples and a clear...
What Is Your Charisma Style? | Selling Without Faking Who You Are with McCall Jones
In this conversation, Michelle Terpstra is joined by McCall Jones, co-founder of Charisma Hacking, to unpack the emotional architecture of selling. The discussion challenges the idea that success comes from personality type or perfect delivery, arguing instead that buyers move when sellers intentionally evoke specific feelings at precise moments. McCall explains how decisions originate emotionally before they are ever justified logically, and why misaligned tactics can erode trust even when the strategy itself is sound.
Listeners hear real-world examples from webinars and live events that illustrate the difference between manipulation and mastery, how to call out identity without...
How to Build Revenue Around Wellness as an Identity | How Smart Brands Make More Money
Michelle Terpstra unpacks one of the most significant revenue shifts shaping 2026 and beyond: wellness as identity. Moving past surface-level trends, she reframes wellness as a core driver of consumer behavior, budgeting decisions, and brand loyalty. Backed by data and firsthand experience, Michelle explains why consumers are reallocating spending toward experiences, products, and environments that support strength and mental clarity.
Rather than treating wellness as a niche reserved for fitness brands, Michelle challenges revenue leaders to see how deeply this identity shift applies to every industry. Covering everything from product positioning, partnerships, and employee experience, Michelle walks through practical...
The Vision Board That Actually Works
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra breaks down the exact process she uses to design a year that actually delivers results. She reframes the vision board as a strategic tool for leadership, clarity, and execution, helping you create the year you want to live. Using real-world experience, she explains why visual strategy works and how it can train your brain to focus and move decisively toward what matters most.
Michelle walks listeners through a repeatable framework for building a vision board that integrates business, identity, health, relationships, and lifestyle. She shares personal examples from her own year and how...
How Real Leaders Show Up Under Pressure | Inside Kent Richeson’s Pitch Arena
Michelle Terpstra sits down with Kent Richeson, creator of Sh*t Pitch and the upcoming TV show The Cut, to unpack what really matters when money, reputation, and momentum are on the line. Forget perfect pitch decks and rehearsed demos—this conversation digs into why behavior under pressure reveals far more than polished slides ever could. Kent explains how Sh*t Pitch was designed to expose the “who” behind the business, not just the “what,” and why trust, coachability, and emotional intelligence consistently outperform flash and bravado.
The discussion draws powerful parallels between fundraising and sales, including the contrarian...
My Playbook for Looking Camera Ready | Michelle’s Favorite Things
In this holiday episode, Michelle talks all about what it really takes to show up confident, energized, and camera-ready. Rather than focusing on beauty trends or surface-level hacks, Michelle reframes on-camera confidence as a result of daily habits, physical well-being, and intentional routines. She offers a grounded reminder that looking “put together” is less about polish and more about consistency.
Michelle shares the systems and shortcuts she’s integrated into her life to reduce decision fatigue and increase her confidence. She shares her personal favorites from all sorts of categories like fitness, nutrition, hydration, wardrobe strategy, and practical groomi...
How Authentic Stories Turn Trust Into Revenue | Storyselling with Kendall Cherry
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra sits down with storytelling and sales strategist Kendall Cherry for a conversation about content, trust, and conversion. Together, they explore why selling with storytelling consistently outperforms traditional testimonials and case studies and why buyer psychology assures us that no amount of AI-generated copy can replace lived experience. Kendall breaks down how authentic stories build authority, attract aligned buyers, and create sustainable revenue without relying on pressure or hype.
Kendall and Michelle workshop a real-world client scenario to demonstrate how one story can become a powerful sales asset. This episode highlights personal growth, leadership...
Press Before Payroll | KJ Blattenbauer on Profitable Publicity
Michelle Terpstra sits down with public relations expert KJ Blattenbauer to challenge common misconceptions about PR in business growth. Together, they explore why visibility is not a vanity metric, but a foundational revenue driver that builds trust and attracts higher-quality clients. KJ reframes publicity as an accessible growth lever—one that founders can activate without massive budgets or large PR teams.
KJ also shares her “Press Before Payroll” philosophy, breaking down how storytelling and authority-building can outperform paid ads when done intentionally. Michelle and KJ give listeners an empowering view of PR as a repeatable system rather than a myst...
Cross-Functional Sales Enablement | The B2B Strategy Top Teams Are Using to Win in 2025 and Beyond
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra challenges one of the most ingrained assumptions in B2B organizations: that sales enablement belongs only to sales. Michelle reframes sales enablement as a company-wide advantagee—something that unites operations around a single strategy, rather than something that divides them. As buying journeys grow more complex and customer expectations rise, she makes the case that enablement must become the connective tissue of the entire revenue organization.
Drawing on industry research and her own real-world experience, Michelle explores how cross-functional enablement drives consistency, trust, and speed. She breaks down why unified messaging matters, how sh...
Passive Income or Pipe Dream? | The Truth About Multifamily Syndication with Jason Kenney
Host Michelle Terpstra sits down with Jason Kenny, founder of Novo Capital, for a grounded and eye-opening conversation about building real wealth through real estate syndication. Drawing from two decades in corporate America and his own journey from burned-out analyst to full-time investor, Jason breaks down why so many high achievers fall for what he calls the passive income trap—the belief that buying and managing investment properties is “passive” when, in reality, it requires endless late nights, weekends, decision-making, and hands-on work. What begins as a simple plan for financial freedom often becomes another job. Jason explains how he escape...
Leading Through Change | Why Great Sales Orgs Are Built in Chaos — Not Calm
In this episode, Michelle Terpstra unpacks why the highest-performing sales organizations aren’t built in stability, but rather forged in chaos. She reframes change as a mirror of what’s working, what’s broken, and where leadership needs to rise. Drawing on years of experience leading teams through acquisitions, restructures, shifting strategies, and rapid scaling, Michelle reveals how ambiguity, not change itself, is what truly derails performance.
Michelle breaks down her Change Leadership Method in a way that empowers any leader to guide their team through high-stakes transitions. She explains how to rebuild expectations, reinforce execution, and stabilize perform...
What Makes a Business Worth Buying? | The Hidden Factors That Drive Valuation with Ryan Hutchins
Michelle Terpstra sits down with valuation expert and entrepreneur Ryan Hutchins of Peak Business Valuation to explore what truly makes a business valuable. With decades of experience packed into his perspective, Ryan shares the buying and selling landscape for founders, operators, and curious investors alike. Together, Michelle and Ryan walk through the realities of financial literacy and the decision-making patterns that separate sellable companies from stressful hobbies disguised as businesses.
Their conversation shines a light on the human side of acquisitions, and the roles people and culture play in whether a transition thrives or crumbles. Ryan’s insights re...
Are These 5 Objections Killing Your Deals? | The Real Reason Buyers Say No
Michelle Terpstra dives into one of the most frustrating and misunderstood parts of B2B selling—objections. Instead of pushing back with scripts, pressure tactics, or the tired psychology tricks, Michelle flips the traditional objection-handling playbook and walks through the real reasons behind the five biggest objections (price, time, trust, authority, and ROI) and shows why objections aren’t signs of rejection… they’re signs of interest.
Michelle also breaks down her signature method, A-V-P (Acknowledge, Validate, Peel), and reveals how the right mindset turns objections into deeper conversations, cleaner closes, and deals that don’t fall apart later. Pac...
You Don’t Need Investors to Build Something Big | The INDEStove Origin Story
Michelle sits down with Paul Raymond, military strategist turned inventor and founder of INDEStove, the portable, collapsible, bake-anywhere cook stove disrupting the outdoor industry. Paul shares how a sketch he drew in a burst of inspiration became a fully engineered product—without quitting his day job, raising venture capital, or handing over ownership. This is a rare behind-the-scenes look at what customer-funded growth really looks like in practice.
Michelle and Paul dive into the grit, timing, and real-world challenges of bringing a physical product to market, from manufacturing hurdles to tariffs to deciding when—or whether—to go all-in...
Why Do 50% of First Sales Hires Fail? | What Successful Founders Differently
Michelle breaks down one of the most costly mistakes founders make—hiring their first salesperson too fast, too early, and with too little structure. With her signature blend of strategy and psychology, Michelle talks through the mindset shift required to move from founder-led sales into scalable sales leadership. Rather than treating hiring as a handoff, she reframes it as a leadership evolution.
Michelle shares real case studies from her consulting work, revealing why 50% of first sales hires fail, and why the successful 50% win big. From readiness signals to co-selling tactics and leadership rhythms, she equips founders with the fr...