Talking Over You

It’s been another tough week for the Sturms between flood cleanup and parenting a newborn, and Hannah has the screentime stats to prove it. This week on the show, they talk about a local silent auction, children at buffets, and the merits of drinking at work, as well as the recent events in cycling, including Hannah Otto’s Kilimanjaro FKT and the controversy in the women’s finish at European Cyclocross Championships. Plus, they make the case for how candy can be used as an analogy for absolutely anything. 

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Sarah and Hannah recorded this episode remotely after devastating floods in Southwestern Colorado made roads impassable. They discuss how the flooding upended their last few days, including Sarah’s decision to evacuate her home for a time. Plus, they talk about their Halloween celebrations in which Sarah and Frankie were upstaged by an infant and Hannah had a near-miss experience with a gherkin. For those who missed hearing about reality TV last week, Hannah also has a new show to rave about that Sarah isn’t interested in. 

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Hannah just got back from a week in Virginia visiting family, where she did a lot of group exercise classes, including Halloween-themed goat yoga. Sarah went to Moab with friends and had another crash course in parenting. Also in this week’s episode, they discuss their latest icks, antidotes to AI slop, some hypothetical wildlife encounters, an ultrarunner-turned-OnlyFans creator, and Sarah’s undying love for her Honda Element.

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Hannah is back this week with stories about an epic hiking trip that involved flooding, a lot of panic on Sarah’s part, and some good news about Hannah’s back. Big Sugar wrapped up this year’s Grand Prix, which leads them into a discussion about salutes and journaling. Plus, they talk about Sarah’s accidental thirst trap, their controversial feelings about one of the most popular cities for outdoorsy people, and introduce a new podcast segment, Ick of the Week.

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This week, Dylan and Sarah talk about being new parents, watching Gravel Worlds, and how they think their dynamic at Sarah’s races will change now that there’s a baby in the mix. Plus, Dylan talks about non-gravel cycling, and Sarah finds common ground between 32” wheels and Below Deck. 

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Sarah is back to training, thanks to some handy tech and her coach Dennis, who built a training plan around breastfeeding. More important is the fact that she and Hannah attended some hard-to-describe performance art that reminded them how uncomfortable they get when watching theater. They talk about crying in mom group, reality TV, that time they watched Sex and the City with a stripper after capoeira in high school, and Hannah’s unlikely attraction to an internet juggler.

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The Sturms are back to their usual selves this week, which means less storytelling and more chaos. Sarah does her best to explain to Hannah why Brandon McNulty’s World Championships win is such a big deal, Hannah tries to explain to Sarah why fruit flies have become her latest obsession, and both try to grapple with the NSFW world of pelvic floor rehab. They also discuss postpartum depression, the problem with bounce-back culture and anti-bounce back culture, and the reason Hannah had such a bad day at work last week (it involved poop). 

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The Sturms are back, and this time, they have a new family member. A little more than a month after giving birth, Sarah goes through her experience of labor, which Hannah fact checks. They also talk about the postpartum period so far, including Hannah’s reaction when she found out she had a niece, some bassinet drama, and body image issues.

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The only good thing about Sarah’s 40+-week pregnancy is that she’s been able to watch the Tour de France Femmes, and she even managed to get Hannah to watch some of it with her. In this episode, they debate whether big boobs are more aero, celebrate creative displays of femininity in the Tour, and read aloud some of the unhinged comments they got about their Remco discussion a couple of weeks ago. Plus, breast pumping, pillows, and the moment everyone’s been waiting for: Sarah’s thoughts on Below Deck.

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If you’ve been on social media lately, chances are you’ve seen Laini Bones trash-talking and throwing heavy objects. For the past few months, her social media following has ballooned from a handful of family and friends to over 200k. Her specialty is taking the Strava KOMs of top male cyclists, including World Tour pros Quinn Simmons, Sepp Kuss, and Sean Quinn. Most importantly, she does a lot of trash talking in the process. 

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Sarah went to the doctor to discover that she is 0% dilated, so she’s been trying every method (scientific and anecdotal) to get the baby out. She was still able to watch the Tour, though, and she gives Hannah a detailed audiobook version of Sepp’s dramatic Queen’s Stage breakaway and the moment at the finish that further confirmed she doesn’t like one particular rider. Plus, they talk about tongue measurements, buck moons, and Summer House.

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Sarah is still pregnant and getting less enthused about it with each passing day. This week on the show, she explains why baby brands need to rethink their marketing and why she might just name her newborn after a raccoon. Plus, she and Hannah unpack Sunday’s dramatic Tour de France stage with the help of some reality TV-based analogies, and Sarah shares a humbling experience she had on a recent ride.

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This week on the show, Hannah shares about her new love of seals after a trip to the California coast, Sarah tries to explain the hierarchy of professional cycling, and they both get to grips with birthing positions. They also discuss Kate Courtney’s big announcement that she’s signed a contract with WorldTour team FDJ, and Sarah talks about her camping trip to watch the Hardrock 100 where she cheered on Courtney Dauwalter, a Mennonite bachelor, and two elderly tourists whose car was hanging off a cliff. 

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Michelle Parker is a multi-hyphenate winter sports athlete and filmmaker who has been skiing since she was one year old. This past year, her life has gone through many changes. Her dad passed away after a long illness, she and her partner got pregnant, and she moved houses. Now in her third trimester, she’s had a lot of time to process both the death of her father and the prospect of bringing new life into the world. 

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This week, Sarah and Hannah talk about the historic Western States ultrarace in which multiple course records were made, and why all the World Cup soccer players are wearing sports bras. Sarah talks about her last birthing class, a turbo-charged e-bike ride, and swamping, again, and Hannah reminisces about her unhinged 16th birthday party. Plus: unicycles, ‘Yesteryear,’ hospital pre-rides, active labor crafts, and puffy glue. 

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This week, Sarah reveals the shocking results from Norman’s DNA test and Hannah talks about a recent experience with beer pong. Plus, they discuss the standout performances this week from two American female riders and their changing emotions about Sarah’s impending birth. 

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This week, Sarah and Hannah talk about the success of crownhole at Sarah’s baby shower, her visit to the maternity hospital with her birthing class, and the drama surrounding the women’s XCO World Cup in Leogang. They also attempt to discuss soccer, basketball, Strava, and pimple patches before Sarah reveals all the places that she’s accidentally peed herself recently.  

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Sarah and Hannah spent a lot of time together this week, and they’re still cooling off from a hike-related argument. They catch up on some loose ends from last week (the PCT OnlyFans hiker, a high-profile lawsuit in the outdoor industry, and the deeply uncool nature of running), and do a deep dive on all the drama at the Giro de Italia. Then, they get up to speed with Lael Wilcox’s 'round the world challenge, contemplate the amount of saliva in ‘Love Island,’ and reveal the crowd-sourced answer to Hannah’s question about the mud at Unbound last week...

This year's Unbound was a mudfest that, for better or worse, produced some excellent stories. In this bonus episode, we hear from riders Cecile Lejeune, Ruby Ryan, and Payson McElveen about their most memorable mishaps from the day, and get an insider's account of what it's like doing media for the race from photographer Dominique Powers. 

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This week is (almost) all about Unbound, which took place over the weekend. Sarah was commentating for the live broadcast and got to see firsthand just how wrecked the equipment and riders were by the mud and storms. Hannah was watching the live feed and witnessed another type of carnage in the comments section. They talk about how the race went down, where Sarah and a dead raccoon fit into it, and get uncharacteristically technical about the presence of 32” wheels and the dominance of the new Specialized Crux. But before all that, Hannah shares some exciting news about a DN...

This week, Sarah talks about riding the Iron Horse Classic in Durango last week and contending with an unexpected amount of backlash about it. She and Dylan also went to a breastfeeding class where she learned some pretty mind-blowing facts about areolas and truffle hunting. Meanwhile, Hannah has been contending with a bug invasion at her house and crying over mascot reveals. 

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This week on the show, Sarah brings an unprecedented level of organisation to discuss the Cocodona 250 (an ultra running event in which a woman won both the men’s and women’s fields), the drama at the Traka 560, and a new non-cycling trend known as swamping. Hannah is busy thinking about how to make Sarah’s baby shower as uncomfortable for the older attendees as possible and has some thoughts on traditional baby shower activities. Plus, they discuss the challenges of ageing as a professional cyclist and share some book recommendations. 

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Sarah is back from Spain and has stories to tell. She narrowly avoided a virus outbreak at Rapha team camp, continued her commentating career, raced the Traka 100, and nearly got arrested (again) over a situation with a rental car (again). Plus, they continue the discussion about thinness and body image, talk about Hannah’s bargain MRI, and take a walk down memory lane to a traumatic jelly bean incident from childhood. 

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Sarah is in Spain at the Rapha training camp this week, so she sat down with Danni Shrosbree to talk about peeing (obviously), shoes, and adult braces. They also discuss the ongoing attention surrounding weight management in cycling, especially in the women’s peloton, and how it’s affected their own lives. Plus, since Hannah is off this week, Sarah takes the opportunity to roast her about her first Hotmail account. 

Content warning: This episode contains discussion of weight loss and eating disorders. 

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Sarah embarked on her temporary career as a race commentator this weekend at Sea Otter, and she had a packed schedule. Not only did she do live in-field reporting during the pro race, but she also narrowly avoided getting arrested while trying to enter the venue. Somehow, she almost had to sing the national anthem at the start line, too. Meanwhile, Hannah was taking copious notes about the YouTube live chat during the event. They discuss all of this and more in today's episode.

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There are a lot of bike things to talk about this week, which means that Hannah is forced to do a lot of listening. Seriously, though, Paris-Roubaix was so exciting and emotional in both the men’s and women’s races that Sarah has a lot to say, including which rider might be cuter than Dylan and the absolute travesty of not providing live coverage of the full women’s race. Then, they pivot to Sarah’s upcoming commentary at Sea Otter, which Hannah is extremely nervous about. Plus, they discuss the new season of 'Euphoria,' their mom’s challeng...

Sarah and Hannah are back together this week to celebrate a belated Passover. They reminisce about the Easter egg hunts they never had as children and try to remember the name of Sarah’s least favourite party game. Hannah got to talk to a former bike messenger while getting a tattoo in Denver last week, and the experience might converted her into a cycling enthusiast. They are also joined by their Mom, Margie. Back by popular demand, she talks about her impending grandmother-hood and her advice to Sarah as a soon-to-be-parent. Plus, Hannah reveals her true Enneagram (spoiler alert: Sa...

Hannah’s been having the time of her life in Denver this week while Sarah shopped for pants at Costco in Albuquerque. They have a lot to catch up on, but first, they get sidetracked by which Enneagram personality they are. Later, they talk about the possible drama in the women’s race at The Hills, and Sarah reveals a breakthrough she had while hanging onto the wheels of her friends’ training ride last week. Plus, Hannah has another nail and hair update, and they talk about the new pregnancy contract for Life Time Grand Prix riders. 

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Sarah and Hannah are back from Mid South after a very stressful return journey that ended in free ice cream. Sarah has some grievances to air and also some pregnancy purchases to discuss, while Hannah has a theory that connects gravel to the Netflix period romance ‘Bridgerton.’ A lot has been going on in the bike world lately, so they catch up on the nail-biter of Milan-San Remo and the drama at this year’s Cape Epic. Plus, they dive into the renewed controversy surrounding race coverage and rider safety. 

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While at Mid South, Sarah and Hannah caught up with four pros after their races (including the winners of the men’s and women’s fields) to ask them questions about their flaws, their earrings, their pronunciation of female anatomy, and washing dishes. They also ask them about how the race played out. 

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It might have been Hannah’s nightmare, but it turns out that recording a live podcast (at a bike race, no less) can actually be extremely fun. The Sturms sat down in front of a live audience in Stillwater, Oklahoma, over the weekend to talk about being at Mid South, how Sarah’s pregnancy will affect her future in the Grand Prix, and why she thinks she’s turning into Kim Kardashian. They also answer audience questions about their not-so-solid sisterly bond and what it was like recording their very first podcast episode together.

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It’s finally time for Sarah to explain why she’s been lying to everyone for approximately four and a half months. This week on the show, she shares the news that only some of her friends guessed (the rest thought she was quitting cycling), and discusses how it will impact her career this season, how manatees might play a role, and her new appreciation for ebikes. Plus, Hannah manages to get a word in to recommend a new novel about trad wives. 

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The Sturms are back behind the mic after their winter hiatus and have finally enlisted the help of an actual runner to discuss the ins and outs of a sport they know nothing about. Abby Hall is one of the top ultra-runners in the world, having won Western States last year and placed second at UTMB Mont Blanc/CCC several years earlier. Abby joins Sarah and Hannah to talk about everything from pacers and training hours to golden tickets, pooping, and feet. 

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It’s been a big week in the sporting world. There was a football game at a Bad Bunny concert, Lindsey Vonn’s highly anticipated Olympic comeback was cut short after a horrific crash, and Girona is abuzz with angsty gravel pros getting ready for their first race of the season. The Sturms discuss all of this, including what they learned about football on Sunday, which states are actually in New England, and why the Super Bowl commercials were so bad this year. On a more serious note, they talk about the reaction to Lindsey Vonn’s crash and the ad...

There isn’t much going on in the world of bikes this week, so Sarah and Hannah are left to their own devices to incorporate sports into the episode. Luckily, the Winter Olympics are about to kick off, though there is some confusion about when the torch was lit, where it’s been, and how you pronounce Ancient Greece. Sarah has a handful of athletes she’s looking forward to watching and even managed to write some of them down. Hannah has been thinking a lot about peeing lately, ever since that revelation about male anatomy last week brought the wo...

This week, the Sturms are discussing how teams might affect gravel racing, but their analysis has a lot more to do with mermaids and Martha Washington than actual cycling tactics. Hannah has a mind-blowing fact about male anatomy to share (with Dylan on hand to verify), and they have a moment of truth regarding a claim Sarah made about herself on a previous episode. 

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The Sturms are traveling this week, and luckily, that means that they can be joined by their friend Dani. She talks about meeting Sarah while racing cyclocross in the 2010s and her decision to step away from the professional side of the sport to pursue her non-cycling-related career. She also brings along one of her pet snakes. But first, Sarah and Hannah talk about trail etiquette, the Palm Springs airport, and Life Time’s decision to ban drop bars at Leadville.

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This week on the show, the Sturms are diving headfirst into the bike world again with the latest edition of techy talky. This time, they’re talking tires, which will either ruin them or reveal a surprising amount of knowledge. With only a few detours into the realms of F1, hockey smut, and thread counts, they manage to impart quite a bit of bike-related information. Dylan shows up a little late in the game for some fact-checking, but who needs it when Hannah turns out to be something of a genius in the area? First, though, the sisters are ta...

This week on the show, the Sturms are talking about scheduling, namely the stressful yet necessary task of sifting through all the competing gravel events in the U.S. and abroad and choosing which to prioritise. They have some questions about names, whether Hannah is ready to be a spectator at some of the largest races, and if Sarah can do an Australian accent (she cannot). 

Then, they discuss the even more urgent topic of fast food. Which burger and soft drink combo tastes the best after a particularly challenging outdoor adventure, and which establishment does it b...

As the year draws to a close, the Sturm sisters are in very different headspaces. Hannah is all-in on reflecting on 2025 and looking ahead to the possibilities of the New Year, while Sarah is still pissed off that it rained on Christmas. She’s also pretty sure that 2025 was a failure for her on most fronts. In this episode, they pick through the wreckage of the past 12 months, argue over whether it’s more motivating to believe in yourself or fear failure, and answer a listener's question about imposter syndrome. First though, Hannah wants to dig into the very NSFW...