Radio Cherry Bombe
Radio Cherry Bombe features interviews with the most interesting people in the worlds of food, drink, and hospitality. Each week, host Kerry Diamond—the founder and editor of Cherry Bombe Magazine—talks to the chefs, bakers, creatives, and entrepreneurs making it happen. Follow @cherrybombe on Instagram for show news and more, and visit cherrybombe.substack.com for an inside look into the episode, recipes from the guest, and so much more. Thank you to Tralala for our theme song, "All Fired Up." Produced by The Cherry Bombe Podcast Network
Gloria Steinem
Today’s episode is a special tribute to Gloria Steinem, the legendary feminist, activist, writer, and champion of equality, who passed away yesterday. In Gloria’s honor, we are re-airing highlights from her keynote conversation with Amy Richards at last year’s Jubilee Conference in New York City.
The episode also features “Meet the Moment: The Power of Food and Storytelling in Creating Change,” a Jubilee panel moderated by Klancy Miller of “For the Culture,” with Paola Velez, Natasha Pickowicz, Zaynab Issa, and Deb Freeman. Together, these women reflect on community, activism, storytelling, and how food can be a force for...
Carla Lalli
Today’s guest is Carla Lalli, the bestselling cookbook author, recipe developer, and content creator behind the new book “Food Is a Feeling: Recipes and Stories with Love.” Carla joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about Nora Ephron, beach peaches, recipes that aren’t really recipes, and how food became a source of comfort, creativity, and self-soothing after the end of her marriage.
They also discuss Carla’s book tour, her no-compromise approach to making this very personal cookbook, the joy of eating your feelings, and why summer is not over yet.
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Caroline Schiff
Today’s guest is Caroline Schiff, the celebrated pastry chef, author, baker, and Bombe Squad OG. Caroline joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her new cookbook, “Daily Dessert: Treats on Repeat,” out October 13th, and her upcoming Brooklyn restaurant, Monday Diner.
They discuss Caroline’s love of everyday sweets, her black-and-white coconut macaroon cookies from her new book, the dessert menu she’s dreaming up for Monday Diner, and why there’s no such thing as too many diners (or desserts!). Plus, Caroline and Kerry talk summer escapes, warm weather eats, watercolors, and more.
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Rhoda Magbitang
Today’s guest is Rhoda Magbitang, winner of “Top Chef” Season 23 and executive chef of CanoeHouse at the Mauna Lani Auberge Collection resort on Hawaii’s Big Island. Rhoda joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her “Top Chef” journey, from getting cast to her Last Chance Kitchen redemption to winning it all with a deeply personal Filipino finale menu.
They discuss Rhoda’s remarkable path from the Philippines to California at age 17, her time cooking in some of L.A.’s top kitchens, and how she found her way to Hawaii. Plus, Rhoda talks about the special dinners...
Mariana Velásquez
Today’s guest is Mariana Velásquez, the celebrated food stylist, author, and entertaining expert behind the cookbooks “Colombiana” and “Revel.” Mariana joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about summer produce, beans, kitchen essentials, why she’s Team Galette, and her summer hosting tips. Spoiler alert: Don’t run out of ice.
Today’s show is presented by Miele.
Make Mariana’s Pomelo Sea Bass Aguachile with Corn Tostadas Check out Mariana’s Miele video Sign up for our free Radio Cherry Bombe newsletter at cherrybombe.substack.com Follow Mariana on Instagram Follow Kerry on InstagramCaroline Chambers
Today’s guest is cookbook author, recipe developer, Substack superstar, Cherry Bombe cover star, and mom of four Caroline Chambers. She joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about “Make It Fast,” the second book in her “What to Cook When You Don’t Feel Like Cooking” series.
They chat about her wildly popular Substack (and how that platform’s evolving), her paper towel-free household (which includes four boys), her love of recipe feedback, how Ina taught her how to cook when she couldn’t afford culinary school, and her spirited mom, aka Crash.
Join Caro and Kerry on her cook...Reenie Karim & Alice Ma
Today’s guests are Chef Mehreen (Reenie) Karim and up-and-coming media mogul Alice Ma. The two join host Kerry Diamond to talk about “Picky Eaters,” the new social media food competition show hosted by Reenie and produced by Mad Realities, the modern media company co-founded by Alice.
They discuss the making of the show, how they snagged guests like Padma Lakshmi, Reenie’s experience on Gordon Ramsay’s “Next Level Chef,” and how Alice (and friends) almost bought a copy of the U.S. Constitution.
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Jubilee In July! Nara Smith, Sophia Roe, Ella Quittner, And Karen Akunowicz Live From Jubilee 2026
It’s the final episode of Jubilee in July! This special series features conversations from our annual Cherry Bombe Jubilee, held this past April at The Glass House in New York City.
We’re closing with the keynote conversation between Nara Smith and Sophia Roe, introduced by Ella Quittner. Sophia chats with Nara about her debut cookbook “Homemade” (out on October 13th), her unique video style, her love of fashion, motherhood, and more.
Then, we’ll hear a solo talk from Karen Akunowicz, award-winning chef and owner of Fox & The Knife and Bar Volpe in Boston. Kare...
Jubilee In July! Toni Tipton-Martin, Nina Williams-Mbengue, Adrienne Cheatham, Adé Carrena, And Mariana Velásquez Live From Jubilee 2026
It’s Jubilee in July! This special series features conversations from our annual Cherry Bombe Jubilee, held this past April at The Glass House in New York City.
Today, we’re sharing a Jubilee keynote conversation on the legacy of Edna Lewis, the legendary chef and author many regard as the godmother of American farm-to-table cooking. This year marks the 50th anniversary of her landmark book, “The Taste of Country Cooking,” which celebrates local ingredients, seasonality, and Southern traditions.
Culinary historian and author Toni Tipton-Martin joins Edna’s niece Nina Williams-Mbengue for a conversation with Chef and pod...
Jubilee In July! Rita Sodi, Jody Williams, Deanna Ting, And Zahra Tangorra Live From Jubilee 2026
It’s Jubilee in July! This special series features conversations from our annual Cherry Bombe Jubilee, held this past April at The Glass House in New York City.
Today, we’re sharing Kerry Diamond’s keynote conversation with Rita Sodi and Jody Williams, the acclaimed chefs, restaurateurs, and partners behind some of New York City’s most beloved restaurants, including Via Carota, Buvette, I Sodi, The Commerce Inn, and Bar Pisellino. The conversation is introduced by Deanna Ting, managing editor of Resy’s editorial team.
Rita and Jody join Kerry to talk about their favorite produce, th...
Jubilee In July! Jenny Nguyen, Adrianna & Olivia Maher, And Ifrah Ahmed Live From Jubilee 2026
Today we’re kicking off Jubilee in July, a special series featuring conversations from our annual Cherry Bombe Jubilee, which was held this past April at The Glass House in New York City. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be sharing some of the wisdom, stories, and inspiration from the Jubilee stage.
First up is Jenny Nguyen, founder of The Sports Bra in Portland, Oregon—the world’s first sports bar dedicated entirely to women’s sports. Jenny sits down with Adrianna and Olivia Maher, sisters and co-hosts of the “House of Maher” podcast, to talk about the orig...
Alex Snodgrass Of The Defined Dish Is An Ina Girl Through And Through
Today’s guest is Alex Snodgrass, the blogger, bestselling cookbook author, recipe developer, and mom behind The Defined Dish. Alex is also the founder of SideDish, a line of sauces and vinaigrettes.
Alex joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her fourth cookbook, “Everyday Eats,” out this August; what it takes to build a CPG brand today; the challenges facing food bloggers in the AI era; and how The Defined Dish came to be and what the Whole30 program had to do with it.
They also discuss Alex’s recipe North Star–“Can I make this on a Wedne...
Lois Freedman, Co-CEO Of The Jean-Georges Restaurant Group
Today’s guest is Lois Freedman, one of the most powerful women in the restaurant industry. Lois is co-CEO of the Jean-Georges restaurant group, the company led by world-renowned chef Jean-Georges Vongerichten that includes more than 50 restaurants in 12 countries and more than 1,000 employees. This year marks Lois’s 40th anniversary of working with Jean-Georges.
Amazingly, this is Lois’s very first podcast. She’s been very low-key throughout her career, but fortunately for us, agreed to come on the show and talk about her remarkable career.
She and host Kerry Diamond discuss Lois’ time as a chef, her...
Levain Bakery’s Cookie Queens, Connie McDonald & Pam Weekes
For today’s show, we’re airing our first joint episode with She’s My Cherry Pie, Cherry Bombe’s baking podcast hosted by Jessie Sheehan. Today’s guests are Connie McDonald and Pam Weekes, the founders of Levain Bakery, the beloved New York bakery known for its signature thick cookies. Levain started as a small bread shop on the Upper West Side in 1995, and has since grown into one of the most recognizable bakeries in the country, with more than 20 locations and fans lined up for their famous chocolate chip walnut cookies.
Connie and Pam join host Jessi...
Link In Bio’s Rachel Karten: Substack Star & Social Media Expert
Today’s guest is Rachel Karten, the social media strategist, writer, and creator of the must-read Substack newsletter Link in Bio. Rachel, a Bon Appétit alum and Cherry Bombe 2026 Power List honoree, is one of the smartest people thinking about social media today.
Rachel joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about what’s happening on Instagram right now, why follower counts don’t mean what they used to, and why short-form video matters so much for brands, restaurants, and media companies. She breaks down how social platforms have changed, and how doing less—but doing it with inte...
Ligaya Mishan & Tejal Rao, The Modern Restaurant Critics Of The New York Times
Today’s guests are Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao, the co-chief restaurant critics at The New York Times. Ligaya is based in New York City, while Tejal is based in Los Angeles, and together they’re bringing a fresh perspective to one of the most influential roles in the food world. Ligaya and Tejal are also featured on Cherry Bombe’s 2026 Power List.
Ligaya and Tejal join host Kerry Diamond to talk about their childhoods, the foods that shaped them, and how they each found their way to writing and restaurant criticism. They share how they’re approach...
Ligaya Mishan & Tejal Rao, The Modern Restaurant Critics Of The New York Times
Today’s guests are Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao, the co-chief restaurant critics at The New York Times. Ligaya is based in New York City, while Tejal is based in Los Angeles, and together they’re bringing a fresh perspective to one of the most influential roles in the food world. Ligaya and Tejal are also featured on Cherry Bombe’s 2026 Power List.
Ligaya and Tejal join host Kerry Diamond to talk about their childhoods, the foods that shaped them, and how they each found their way to writing and restaurant criticism. They share how they’re approach...
Kismet’s Sara Kramer & Sarah Hymanson Took A Chance On L.A. And Each Other
Today’s guests are Sara Kramer and Sarah Hymanson, chefs and co-owners of Kismet, the beloved Los Angeles restaurant they opened almost a decade ago. Sara and Sarah received Cherry Bombe’s Bombesquad Award last week at the 2nd Annual Cherry Bombe Power Awards in Los Angeles.
The duo joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about Kismet and how it has evolved over the years, their partnership, and what it takes to keep a restaurant alive today.
They also share the origin story of Kismet Rotisserie, their growing takeout concept that helped keep the business going...
Chef Claudette Zepeda On Life Changing Experiences & “Cooking The Borderlands”
Today’s guest is Claudette Zepeda, award-winning chef, mom, self-described border kid, poet, and author of the new cookbook “Cooking the Borderlands: Spice and Smoke Between Mexico and the States.” Claudette’s book is a deeply personal celebration of the food, family, and culture that shaped her, from Tijuana and San Diego to Jalisco and beyond.
Claudette joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about the long road to writing her first cookbook, why she was determined to create something that would stand the test of time, and how her identity as a border kid informs everything she cooks. S...
Clementine’s Ice Cream Founder Tamara Keefe On Gooey Butter Cake & Big Dreams
Today’s guest is Tamara Keefe, founder and CEO of Clementine’s Ice Cream, the St. Louis–based creamery known for its inventive flavors, ice cream parlors, and devoted following. Tamara started Clementine’s after walking away from a successful corporate career, and has since grown the company from one tiny neighborhood ice cream parlor into a nationally recognized brand.
Tamara joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about the childhood ice cream tradition that changed her life, why she decided to bet on herself, and how she built Clementine’s from the ground up—first by selling to restauran...
Gage & Tollner’s Sohui Kim On The Spirit Of Edna Lewis
Today’s guest is Sohui Kim, the chef behind Brooklyn’s historic Gage & Tollner and the always-fun Insa. Sohui is one of New York City’s most talented and thoughtful chefs, known for bringing deep respect, creativity, and a personal point of view to everything she cooks.
Sohui joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about Gage & Tollner, including the recent benefit dinner she hosted for the Edna Lewis Foundation in honor of the 50th anniversary of “The Taste of Country Cooking.” She shares what it means to carry Edna’s legacy forward at Gage & Tollner, where Edna was once hea...
Matty Matheson And Michelle Rabin Of “Just A Dash” Talk Culinary Chops, Chaos & “The Bear”
Today’s guests are Matty Matheson and Michelle Rabin, the duo behind “Just A Dash,” the cooking show on Netflix that’s equal parts chaos, comedy, and culinary skill. Matty, the show’s chef, is also a star of “The Bear,” a restaurateur, hardcore band frontman, creator of the Matheson Food Company, husband, and dad. Michelle, meanwhile, is a culinary producer, food stylist, on-screen problem-solver, and occasional voice of reason who helps keep “Just A Dash” from flying completely off the rails.
Matty and Michelle join host Kerry Diamond to talk about the making of their show, their longtime fri...
Chef Angie Rito Of Don Angie And San Sabino Stops By For A Chat And A Few Laughs
Today’s guest is Angie Rito, co-chef and co-owner of the beloved West Village spots Don Angie and San Sabino. Angie and her husband Scott Tacinelli are known for their inventive, craveable takes on Italian-American food.
Angie joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about life at the restaurants, her pivot from journalism to the kitchen, and the story of her family’s popular neighborhood bakery in Cleveland. She shares how growing up around the bakery shaped her love of restaurants and Italian-American food, which continues to inspire her.
They also talk about The Hot Dog Edit...
Ashley Graham’s Sparkling New Chapter
Today’s guest is Ashley Graham, the model, entrepreneur, advocate, and co-founder of Lucci, a Lambrusco brand inspired by her love of food, wine, and Italy. A trailblazer in fashion and a champion of body confidence and inclusion, Ashley is now bringing that same energy to the wine world.
Ashley and host Kerry Diamond discuss the origin story of Lucci, from a dinner in Los Angeles to a DM to an Italian winemaker in Emilia-Romagna. Ashley shares what it’s been like building her first brand from the ground up, navigating distribution, raising money, and convincing people that...
Pastry Chef Michelle Palazzo Of Frenchette And Le Rock Talks Mom Life, Hot Dogs & Decadent Desserts
Today’s guest is Michelle Palazzo, the superstar pastry chef behind some of New York City’s most beloved restaurants and desserts. Michelle oversees the pastry teams for the group that includes Frenchette, Le Rock, Le Veau d’Or, Frenchette Bakery at the Whitney, and the brand-new Wild Cherry.
The last time Michelle joined us, she was making her podcast debut. Fast forward, she’s a mom and leading pastry teams across multiple locations. She’s learned to have boundaries, she tells us, but she’s still the queen of the decadent dessert.
Michelle is also one of th...
Roman Pasta & Real Talk With Chef Hillary Sterling Of Ci Siamo And “Ammazza!”
Chef Hillary Sterling of NYC’s Ci Siamo finally has a cookbook to call her own. “AMMAZZA! Culinary Adventures from New York to Italy and Back Again” is out tomorrow and showcases everything Hillary loves to make, from Roman pastas to Mexican food to Jewish classics with a twist. And the title? Ammazza is Italian for “you killed it,” “you slayed,” or good old “wow!”
Hillary joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about the long road to “AMMAZZA!” and what the cookbook process taught her about herself and her cooking. She shares stories from her New York restaurant career, fro...
“Revel” Author Mariana Velásquez On Hosting, Heartbreak & Rewriting Her Story
For our final episode of “The New Home,” our miniseries in partnership with Fisher & Paykel, we’re spotlighting Mariana Velásquez. A celebrated food stylist and author of the new book “Revel: A Maximalist Guide to Having People Over,” Mariana is known for her lush, layered aesthetic and her belief that food is meant to be experienced as a full table, not just individual dishes.
She joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about the inspiration behind “Revel,” from her approach to menus and entertaining to the creative process of bringing her book to life with celebrated photographers Gentl & Hyers...
How Interior Designer Young Huh Unlocked Her Creative Calling
For our third episode of “The New Home,” our miniseries in partnership with Fisher & Paykel, we’re spotlighting Young Huh, interior designer, author, and founding member of the AAPI Design Alliance. Her new book, “A Mood, A Thought, A Feeling: Interiors,” offers a glimpse into her thoughtful, color-driven approach to design and the philosophy behind her work.
Young joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her unconventional path to design—from starting out in law to making a bold career pivot and building a thriving creative business. She shares what it really takes to find your calling, the challeng...
Ghia Founder Mélanie Masarin On Her Debut Cookbook “Riviera”
For episode two of “The New Home,” our miniseries in partnership with Fisher & Paykel, we’re spotlighting Mélanie Masarin. Founder of the nonalcoholic apéritif brand Ghia and author of the new cookbook “Riviera: Recipes from the Coast of France and Italy,” Mélanie is known for her distinct point of view—whether she’s building a category-defining beverage brand or creating a cookbook inspired by her French and Italian roots.
She joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about the inspiration behind “Riviera,” from her grandmother’s kitchen notebook to summers in the south of France, and how she translated a...
Donna Hay, The Australian Food Media Icon, Shares Her Origin Story
We have a special mini series debuting today in partnership with Fisher & Paykel called “The New Home.” Over the next few weeks, host Kerry Diamond will be in conversation with some amazing women about their lives, their kitchens, and their inspiring careers. We’re starting with an icon who has influenced Cherry Bombe with her food styling, photography, and wholehearted approach to home cooking. It’s Donna Hay, the culinary legend from Australia.
Donna shares how eating crepes in Paris was an aha moment early in her career, how a fashion editor helped develop her sense of whimsy, a...
Sabrina Rudin Of Spring Cafe Aspen On Eating Healthy, Making Music & Turning 40
Today’s guest is Sabrina Rudin, founder of Spring Cafe Aspen, the organic, plant-powered restaurant with locations in Aspen and New York City. She’s also the author of the new cookbook “Healthy with a Side of Happy: 100 Plant-Based Recipes to Feed Your Family.”
Sabrina joins host Kerry Diamond on her 40th birthday to talk about launching Spring Cafe with no restaurant experience, bootstrapping the business, and bringing her healthy, feel-good food to a wider audience. They also discuss her debut cookbook, her approach to joyful (not restrictive) plant-based cooking, and the stories behind some of her favorite...
Losophē’s Aisha Tyler On Margaritamaxxing, Hollywood & The Entrepreneur Life
Today’s guest is Aisha Tyler—actor, director, comedian, podcast host, and now beverage entrepreneur. You might know Aisha from “Criminal Minds: Evolution” or “Friends,” but these days she’s also the founder of losophē, a line of organic, ready-to-drink cocktails designed to bring the bar experience home.
Aisha joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her wildly multi-hyphenate career and why she’s always chasing the next challenge. She shares how her love of hospitality—and frustration with lackluster drinks at home—led her to launch losophē with business partner James King, why she bootstrapped the business herself, and...
Asma Khan Live At Jubilee NYC 2025
Today’s episode is a special live recording from Jubilee 2025 in New York City, featuring Asma Khan, chef, restaurateur, author, and one of the most powerful voices in food today. Asma is the chef-owner of London’s Darjeeling Express, the author of “Monsoon: Delicious Indian Recipes for Every Day and Season,” “Chef’s Table” star, and a fierce advocate for women everywhere.
Asma joins host Kerry Diamond on stage for a deeply moving conversation about resilience, purpose, and the power of community. Asma is introduced by author Yasmin Khan.
Thank you to on/Sight and “In The Kusina” by...
Lucie Franc de Ferriere On Buttercream Secrets & Her Debut Baking Book
Today’s guest is Lucie Franc de Ferriere, the self-taught baker and founder of From Lucie, the popular East Village bakery known for its mini cakes, chocolate chip cookies, and French-inflected charm. Lucie is also the author of the new cookbook “Cake From Lucie: Recipes and Techniques From the French Countryside to New York City.”
Lucie and host Kerry Diamond discuss how the book blends her upbringing in southwest France with her life in New York, the importance of working with a creative team that understands her vision, and why she wanted the book to feel personal and ap...
Donna Lennard Of il Buco Restaurant On 90s Nostalgia, Thoughtful Expansion, And Hard-Earned Success
Today’s guest is Donna Lennard, the founder of il Buco and one of the defining figures of downtown New York dining. Since opening il Buco in 1994, Donna has slowly and thoughtfully built a hospitality group founded on passion, great ingredients, and welcoming vibes. The business includes il Buco Alimentari in NYC, il Buco outposts in Amagansett and Ibiza, il Buco Vita shops, and a line of il Buco pantry staples.
She joins host Kerry Diamond to share the story of how il Buco came to be, and the personal journey that led her from a career in...
How Molly Irani Of Chai Pani Took A Leap Of Faith That Changed Her Life
Today’s guest is Molly Irani, co-founder and chief culture officer of the award-winning Chai Pani Restaurant Group in Asheville, North Carolina, and author of the new book, “Service Ready: A Story of Love, Restaurants, and the Power of Hospitality.” Back in 2009, Molly and her husband, Meherwan, were facing an uncertain future during the financial crisis when he proposed something unexpected: opening an Indian street food restaurant. Molly was shocked, but, ever the optimist, she ultimately said yes. Her leap of faith changed everything.
Molly joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about what it really took to get Ch...
The Tuscan Life With Cookbook Author Amber Guinness
Today’s guest is Amber Guinness—cookbook author and co-founder of The Arniano Painting School. Amber grew up in the Tuscan countryside, where food was a way of life and meals were all about gathering, generosity, and instinct.
Amber joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her latest book, “Winter in Tuscany: Cozy Recipes and the Quanto Basta Way,” and the philosophy that guides her cooking: quanto basta, or “as much as you need.” It’s a beautifully simple idea that encourages cooks to trust themselves, embrace imperfection, and focus on flavor over formulas. Amber shares stories from her childh...
Ham El-Waylly Wants To Cook With Ms. Rachel And Lady Gaga
Today’s guest is Ham El-Waylly—chef, recipe developer, restaurateur, and author of the new cookbook “Hello, Home Cooking: Doable Dishes for Every Day.” Ham is also the co-founder of the Brooklyn restaurant Strange Delight and part of an NYC culinary power couple with his wife, Sohla El-Waylly.
Ham joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about growing up in Doha, watching “Yan Can Cook” on repeat, meeting Sohla at the Culinary Institute of America, being a girl dad, and his restaurant life. He also shares the story behind some of his favorite “Hello, Home Cooking” recipes, including a nostalgic Braz...
The Coolest Lady In Food, Ruthie Rogers Of The River Cafe In London
Today’s guest is Ruthie Rogers, the legendary chef and restaurateur behind The River Cafe in London, and she joins host Kerry Diamond to talk about her latest book, “Table 4 at The River Cafe.” Inspired by her popular podcast, “Ruthie’s Table 4,” the book features conversations with the likes of Nigella Lawson, Tina Fey, Greta Gerwig, Alice Waters, Tracey Emin, and dozens of other forces from the worlds of art, music, film, and food.
Ruthie shares the story of how The River Cafe began as a humble sandwich shop and evolved into a global culinary institution, the lessons she’s...
Life, Love & How To Peel Garlic With Goodstory’s Lydia Keating And Hot Side’s Max Baroni
Today’s guests are Lydia Keating and Max Baroni—content creators whose worlds span storytelling, cooking, and social media. Lydia is the founder of the Goodstory run club and is known for her thoughtful approach to online life and community-building. Max is a chef and author of the Hot Side Substack, where he shares approachable recipes and kitchen know-how.
Lydia and Max join host Kerry Diamond to share the story of how they met (during Lydia’s not-so-successful tryout at the Michelin-starred Four Horsemen in Brooklyn). They also talk about their unconventional paths—Lydia’s journey from rowing at...