The Primary Maths Podcast

In this Easter special of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon and Becky take a slightly lighter turn while still keeping one foot firmly in the world of maths. Recorded on Good Friday, the episode reflects on the welcome arrival of the Easter break and the importance of slowing down after a busy term.

The conversation explores a familiar classroom question: what do we do with seasonal contexts like Easter? Jon and Becky discuss the difference between simply dressing up maths with a theme and genuinely finding the mathematics within real-life situations. From hot cross buns to chocolate...

In this Aftermaths episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon and Becky catch up after a short break and reflect on this week’s interview with Professor Lucy Cragg on multiplication and how children learn times tables.

The conversation turns to the Multiplication Tables Check (MTC), exploring its origins, purpose and impact since its introduction. Jon shares a short history of the check, from its announcement in 2017 through to its first full national rollout in 2022, and discusses what the latest data and Teacher Tapp findings suggest about its influence on teaching and learning.

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In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon speaks with Lucy Cragg, Professor of Developmental Psychology at the University of Nottingham, about what cognitive science reveals about how children learn multiplication facts.

Lucy’s research explores executive function skills such as working memory, inhibitory control and cognitive flexibility, and how these shape children’s mathematical learning. The conversation dives into how multiplication facts are stored and retrieved, why certain errors (like 6 × 7 = 42) are so common, and what this tells us about the structure of memory.

Together, Jon and Lucy explore the distinction between fluency and under...

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell speaks with Tom Oakley about one of the most important — and often overlooked — aspects of mathematics education: belonging.

Why do some pupils decide that maths “isn’t for them”? Why do confident learners sometimes disengage from mathematics? And what can teachers do to help every child feel like they belong in the maths classroom?

Tom draws on research around motivation, self-perception and classroom culture to explore how children develop their identity as mathematicians. The conversation looks at how pupils’ beliefs about themselves are shaped over time through...

Episode 60 of The Primary Maths Podcast is an Aftermaths episode where Jon Cripwell and Becky Brown reflect on mathematical thinking in the classroom, the hidden cost of passive maths, and why pupils’ mathematical identity matters as much as their test scores.

The episode begins with a lighter moment as Jon points out that it is Friday the 13th again, one of three Friday the 13ths in 2026, the maximum possible in a single year. The conversation then moves to this week’s interview episode with secondary maths teacher Will McLoughlin, which explored direct instruction, conceptual understanding and mathematical thin...

In this international episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Will McLoughlin, a maths teacher based in Abu Dhabi, founder of AddvanceMaths.com and current Education Doctorate student researching conceptual understanding, animated instruction and cognitive science.

The conversation explores what direct instruction or explicit instruction actually means in practice — and what it doesn’t.

Will shares how his thinking has evolved over time, from procedural teaching to a more deliberate, structured approach rooted in clarity, retrieval practice and independent practice. Together, Jon and Will unpack:

In this Aftermaths episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell and Becky Brown reflect on the week’s conversation about using storybooks in mathematics and share a range of classroom ideas sparked by World Book Day.

The episode begins with Jon and Becky recounting their first in-person meeting as colleagues after a slightly confusing start involving two similarly named hotels in Southampton. From there, the discussion turns to the power of storybooks in maths lessons following Tuesday’s interview with Hannah Allison. Jon and Becky explore how narrative can support mathematical thinking and engagement, helping pupils noti...

What happens when maths lessons start with a story rather than a method?

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell is joined by Hannah Allison from Maths Outside the Box to explore the role of stories in primary maths teaching. Drawing on her background in the arts and her experience as a maths leader, Hannah explains how narrative, character and context can help pupils engage more deeply with mathematical ideas.

Together, Jon and Hannah discuss what maths through stories actually looks like in practice, and how storybooks can be used as a...

Episode 56 of The Primary Maths Podcast focuses on manipulatives in primary maths and asks a simple but important question: do manipulatives automatically lead to mathematical thinking? Jon and Becky reflect on a recent lesson about commutativity where children were building arrays with cubes but describing the task as “making it with cubes” rather than explaining the structure behind three multiplied by four being equal to four multiplied by three. This opens up a wider discussion about the CPA approach, the difference between doing and thinking, and the importance of questioning to help children notice mathematical structure rather than follow proc...

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell is joined by Dr Kate Quade for a thoughtful conversation about language, learning and mathematical thinking.

Language sits at the heart of mathematics, but the way pupils talk about maths often remains unnoticed or is tidied up too quickly. Together, Jon and Kate explore why mathematical thinking so often stays invisible, and how children communicate their ideas in many ways beyond written answers.

A central focus of the episode is the idea of “porridge words”. These are the imprecise, catch all or emerging terms children use...

In this half-term Aftermaths episode, Jon and Becky take a deep dive into prime numbers and discover that they are far more than a Year 5 objective about “numbers with exactly two factors”.

The conversation begins in the classroom, exploring how we define prime numbers and why 1 and 2 are both special cases. They reflect on how primes frustrate our desire for neat patterns, how children often assume odd numbers are prime, and how the Sieve of Eratosthenes gives us a beautifully systematic way of uncovering them.

From there, the episode takes a historical journey. Jon revisits the...

Happy half term to those who celebrate. In this slightly re-routed Aftermaths episode, Jon and Becky lean into the fact that it is Friday the 13th and explore whether the date really deserves its unlucky reputation.

From Gregorian calendar cycles to cultural superstitions across Europe and Asia, they unpack the mathematics behind how often Friday the 13th actually occurs and what the data really says about risk and coincidence.

There is also a wonderfully elegant maths problem to enjoy. If 128 players enter a knockout tennis tournament, how many matches are played? What begins as a...

What does it really mean to gamify maths, and when do games genuinely support learning rather than simply make practice feel more entertaining?

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Dr Sam Parkes for a thoughtful and practical conversation about games, play and digital learning in primary mathematics. Together, they explore the difference between games that allow pupils to show how strong they already are and games that actually help them get stronger mathematically.

The discussion moves beyond surface level engagement to focus on task design, feedback, time pressure, inclusion...

In this week’s Aftermaths episode, Jon and Becky reflect on what can get lost when pace, coverage and efficiency become the main drivers of lesson planning.

The conversation begins with a light hearted look at memorable school trips, from soggy outdoor museums to luxury coaches that were wildly unsuited to Year 6 energy. From there, the discussion turns to something more serious: how tightly prescribed lesson structures and non negotiables can squeeze out curiosity, autonomy and meaningful thinking for both teachers and pupils.

Jon shares reflections on recent classroom visits and raises questions about identikit le...

How do we decide which manipulative to use in a maths lesson, and why does that choice matter so much?

In this episode, I am joined by Jo Austen for a practical conversation about manipulatives, models, and professional judgement. Rather than treating resources as interchangeable or decorative, Jo helps us think carefully about what different manipulatives do mathematically, and what they quietly emphasise or obscure.

We explore how manipulatives fit within the CPA approach, why different models foreground different mathematical structures, and how physical properties such as loose parts, fixed parts, colour, and layout shape...

In this Aftermaths episode, Jon and Becky reflect on what it really means to do maths rather than watch it.

The conversation begins with Jon sharing an experience from a recent maths education conference, where extended time spent grappling with puzzles led to deep engagement, productive struggle and genuine mathematical thinking. Together, Jon and Becky explore why lessons that look slower on the surface can often be richer, more meaningful and more memorable for learners. They discuss the tension teachers feel between pace, coverage and allowing pupils the time they need to think, fail, notice and try...

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Sums of Anarchy co-founder Dominique Miranda to explore why so many people decide early on that maths “isn’t for them” – and what we can do about it.

Dominique shares her own journey from academic success through memorisation to realising, at university level, that understanding matters far more than recall. Together, Jon and Dominique unpack how early classroom experiences shape long-term confidence, why maths anxiety sticks for decades, and how cultural attitudes make it socially acceptable to opt out of maths altogether.

The conversa...

In this week’s Aftermaths, Jon and Becky unpick two words that are everywhere right now — scaffolding and adaptations — and ask whether we’re accidentally reinventing differentiation under a new name. Then we share listener stories about children’s “money logic” (including the belief that you can simply tap your phone to summon infinite dinosaurs). Finally, Jon takes us down a brilliant history rabbit hole: the year Britain “lost” 11 days when the calendar changed — and we round off with quick takeaways from this week’s interview on problem solving.

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Problem solving is one of those phrases we all use in maths – but do we actually mean the same thing when we say it?

Too often, it becomes shorthand for a set of word problems at the end of a lesson, or a Friday afternoon activity once the “real maths” is done. But what if problem solving isn’t a type of task at all? What if it’s a way of thinking, behaving, and approaching mathematics – something that needs to be explicitly taught, modelled, and valued every day?

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcas...

In this week’s Aftermaths episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon and Becky cover a lot of ground — from coins and contactless payments to SATs survival tips, curriculum updates, and why talking about maths might matter more than writing it down.

🎒 Money in the modern classroom

Jon and Becky take a light-hearted but thoughtful look at how money is taught in primary schools, and why it’s become trickier in recent years. With children encountering less physical cash in everyday life, money has become more abstract — even as it remains one of the richest areas of ma...

SATs season can feel overwhelming — especially in Year 6. In this special interview-style episode, Jon is joined by Becky Brown to talk honestly and practically about how to prepare pupils for KS2 Maths SATs without turning the rest of the school year into one long revision session.

Recorded in January, this episode focuses on what really matters from now until May, and why SATs should be seen as a culmination of a key stage, not a last-minute scramble owned by Year 6 teachers alone.

In this episode, we explore:

In the first Aftermaths episode of 2026, Jon and Becky reflect on New Year resolutions, why so many of them fail, and what this means for teachers specifically. Drawing on national data, Teacher Tap insights, and lived classroom experience, they explore wellbeing, workload, work–life boundaries, and the gap between good intentions and sustainable habits.

The episode also features a Maths of Life moment inspired by a freezing trip to Weston-super-Mare, leading into a fascinating discussion about tides, lunar days, and why the sea sometimes feels impossibly far away.

Finally, Jon and Becky debrief this week’s in...

Why is maths one of the few subjects people feel completely comfortable saying they hated at school?

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Emma Lockhart, Head of Maths at Mill Hill School, to explore what really sits behind that narrative and why it disproportionately affects girls.

Together, they unpack how maths so quickly becomes framed as something you are either “good at” or “bad at”, and how confidence, belonging and belief often matter just as much as content knowledge or exam technique. The conversation looks at what happens to pupils w...

Christmas Is Just One Long Maths Problem (A Festive Aftermaths)

There’s no interview this week, no school talk, and absolutely no mention of lesson objectives.

Instead, Jon and Becky settle in for a festive Aftermaths special — a lighter, reflective end-of-term episode full of Christmas maths, curious statistics, questionable guesses, and the kind of conversations you can happily listen to while wrapping presents or hiding in the kitchen for five minutes of peace.

From debating whether Die Hard really is a Christmas film, to exploring how many calories we might consume on Christmas Day...

As the autumn term finally draws to a close, Jon and Becky reflect on teacher fatigue, festive chaos, and the sense of relief that comes with making it to the holidays.

This week’s Aftermaths dives into fractions — why they’re such a sticking point for pupils (and adults), and how misunderstandings often stem from losing sight of the whole. Jon shares reflections from a full day of fractions work with SCITT students, exploring why fractions feel so different from whole numbers, how notation can trip learners up, and why conceptual understanding matters far more than memorised proced...

Oracy is set to play a central role in England’s refreshed curriculum, but for many teachers it still feels abstract or confined to English lessons. In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell is joined by Mike Gardner to explore what oracy actually looks like in a real maths lesson.

Together, they deconstruct a lesson from start to finish, showing how purposeful talk can strengthen learning at every stage, not as an add-on, but as a core part of effective maths teaching.

Mike draws on over 13 years of classroom experience across Nursery to...

In this week’s Aftermaths, Jon and Becky unpack a festive mix of maths chat, listener questions, curriculum reflections and some unexpectedly delightful Spotify Wrapped stats.

🎧 In This Episode

In today’s episode, Jon speaks to Patrick Renouf, an international maths educator whose journey is unlike almost any other. As a child, Patrick experienced what he later recognised as maths trauma — a mix of high-stakes testing, procedural teaching, and an early sense that maths “wasn’t for him.” But what followed was a remarkable transformation.

Patrick now works with schools around the world helping teachers rebuild their relationship with maths, shift towards teaching for understanding, and create classrooms where thinking — not performing — is the centrepiece of maths learning.

Together, Jon and Patrick explore:

🔍 What’s In...

In this week’s Aftermaths, Jon and Becky dive into the wonderfully frustrating world of mathematical misuses in everyday life, inspired by a brilliant email from listener Sam Asplund, a Year 4 teacher and maths lead from Ketten Primary School.

After a pupil requested a “cheese square” during snack time — while pointing out that Dairylea “triangles” aren’t truly triangles at all — Jon and Becky go down a joyful rabbit hole of everyday maths errors. From curved-edged cheese sectors to supermarket statistics, they explore the misconceptions we see “in the wild” far more often than we’d like.

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In this episode, Jon is joined by the brilliant Rob Eastaway, whose books, puzzles and radio appearances have helped hundreds of thousands of people see the beauty in everyday maths. They explore how curiosity drives mathematical thinking, why written methods can sometimes obscure understanding, and what we can learn from the history of numbers — from Roman numerals to Elizabethan clocks.

Rob shares stories from Maths Inspiration, his nationwide programme of interactive theatre shows for teenagers, and talks about the importance of connecting maths to real life, real surprises and real joy. They also discuss how puzzles, games an...

In this week’s AfterMaths episode, Jon and Becky reunite (voice fully restored!) and unpack a packed agenda: a bit of history, a lot of maths, and some classic year-group trauma.

Jon kicks things off with a brilliant history of maths segment — the surprisingly dramatic story of the equals sign, invented in 1557 by Welsh mathematician Robert Recorde, whose parallel-line insight eventually won out over some frankly bizarre early alternatives.

Then it’s time for this week’s feature: the top three trickiest things to teach in primary maths. Jon and Becky each bring th...

In this episode, Jon sits down with Phil Herd -, maths specialist, and long-time champion of teaching for understanding - to unpick what problem solving really means in primary maths, and why it remains one of the most misunderstood strands of our curriculum.

Together they explore why problem solving is far more than a final question on a worksheet, why pupils struggle to get started on unfamiliar tasks, and how teachers can build a classroom culture where getting stuck is expected rather than feared.

This conversation goes deep into the practicalities: the curriculum pressures, misconceptions...

In this Aftermaths episode, Jon is joined once again by Sally Cole (standing in heroically for Becky!) for a wide-ranging Friday debrief. Together they unpack a huge week in maths education, from the launch of the brand-new Twinkl Maths app on iOS to the University of Nottingham’s State of the Nation review — plus a Maths of Life segment that dives into the mind-bending scale of a trillion.

This week’s conversation pulls together classroom practice, national trends, early years pedagogy and variation theory in the way only an Aftermaths episode can.

⭐ What We...

In this episode, Jon is joined by maths advisor, Primary Mastery Specialist and author John Bee, whose new book Teaching Maths for Mastery: Practical Strategies for Primary Schools digs deep into what great maths teaching really looks like.

Together they explore variation theory: what it is, what it isn’t, and why it is often misunderstood in primary classrooms. John breaks down the difference between conceptual variation and procedural variation, shares practical examples teachers can use tomorrow, and explains how careful task design can reveal the underlying structure of the mathematics rather than simply repeat the same pr...

In this week’s Aftermaths episode, Jon is joined by two special guests from the Twinkl team. Michelle Windridge, National Education Lead for EYFS and returning guest from last week’s episode, and Ashleigh Morris, National Education Lead for Secondary Science and host of the STEM Conversations podcast. Together they dive into the week’s interview with Cate Fearn and explore why times tables are so often a source of anxiety for children and adults alike.

The discussion ranges from conceptual understanding in early maths to the role of practice, memorisation and fluency in Key Stage 2. Michelle explai...

Few areas of primary maths cause as much debate as times tables.

We all agree they matter, but how pupils develop fluency, understanding and confidence is still up for discussion.

In this episode, Jon Cripwell talks to Cate Fearn — primary educator, maths specialist and creator of Table Stick, a classroom tool designed to make multiplication practice more engaging and sticky.

Together they explore:

This week’s Aftermaths dives deep into one of the trickiest topics in the primary maths curriculum — division. Why do so many pupils (and teachers) find it difficult? Jon and Becky unpack the cognitive, linguistic and conceptual challenges behind division and explore what teachers can do to make it more meaningful.

They also reflect on the Curriculum and Assessment Review and Twinkl’s new Curriculum & Assessment Review Hub, which summarises the 197-page report (plus appendices!) and the Government’s response for every subject — including a must-read summary for maths.

👉 Explore the Curriculum and Assessment Review Hub

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In this special emergency episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Becky, Sally and first-time guest Lisa to unpack the government’s newly released Curriculum and Assessment Review – and the official response that landed alongside it.

Together, they explore:

This week, Jon is joined by Michelle Windridge, Twinkl’s National Education Lead for School-Based EYFS, for a deep dive into what early years maths really looks like - and what it definitely doesn’t.

Even the most confident maths leads can find EYFS a bit of a mystery, so Jon and Michelle unpack the Early Years Foundation Stage framework, explore the importance of talk and play, and discuss how to spot great mathematical learning in the mess and magic of a reception classroom.

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This week, Jon and Becky are back for a half-term special that explores the foundations of mathematical understanding — and the curious maths behind our PIN codes.

Jon unpacks what number sense really means, why it underpins everything else in maths, and how fragile number sense can often go unnoticed until it becomes a barrier to progress. They discuss what teachers can look out for, from over-counting and weak part-whole relationships to over-reliance on formal methods, and share practical classroom routines to help strengthen number sense — including number talks, subitising games, estimating, and developing mathematical vocabulary.

Beck...