Two Guys and a PLC

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By: David Gutshall & John Marchiando

A couple of factory automation guys, one with an IT and OT networking background and the other with a wireless and control systems background, get together to talk about manufacturing. We interview people in manufacturing, OT networking, cybersecurity, and everything in between.

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Two Guys and Adrienne Meyer
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Two guys sit down with Adrienne Meyer, the CEO of the CSIA, the Control System Integrators Association.

Adrienne talks about the history of the CSIA, how it has changed since its founding, the guides they develop for integrators, how certification for members works, the trends her member companies are seeing, and how important they are now more than ever to the industry ecosystem!

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Two Guys, Roger Henley, and Gaurav Khanna
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10/01/2026

Two guys sit down with both Roger Henley, the guest from Sept 1, and Dr. Gaurav Khanna, otherwise known as Dr. G, an AI Executive at Cisco, a Stanford Professor, and much more well-read than the Two Guys on these emerging AI technology topics.

Dr. G and Roger chat about AGI, the mammalian neocortex, its efficiency and prediction ability, the Thousand Brains Theory, and even a bit about robots folding laundry!

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Two Guys and Roger Henley
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#18
09/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Roger Henley VP of Engineering and Technology. He started in cryptology for NASA then moved onto machine learning and efficient algorithm disciplines.

John and Dave chat with Roger about everything from how humans sense and see the world and how it applies to the development of AI, to when he believes full AGI will arrive, and how he applies local models to solving real-world manufacturing problems.

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Two Guys and Jake Hall
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#17
08/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Jake Hall, The Manufacturing Millennial and well-known Public Speaker.

John and Dave chat with Jake about how to get Millennials and Gen Z excited about manufacturing, what makes them more apt to work for one company over another, public speaking, and how fast humanoid robots might be working along side of each of us, among other topics!

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Two Guys and Todd Edmunds
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#16
07/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Todd Edmunds, Global CTO and Manufacturing Technology Leader.

John and Dave chat with Todd about Digital Twins, the Industrial Metaverse, whether we're in an AI bubble or not, the power of compute, and how important compute is for every manufacturer to stay competitive!

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Two Guys and Dan Mastropietro
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#15
06/01/2026

Two Guys sit down with Dan Mastropietro, Technical Fellow at The Walt Disney Company.

John and Dave chat with Dan about networking in entertainment industry attractions, real-time communications, how manufacturing tolerances and requirements look similar, and Dan's band!

They also chat about how AI is helping him and his team get to root-cause faster, especially when dealing with complex entertainment attractions which mirror complex industrial control networks.

Listen to hear his advice on what he sees on the technology horizon for manufacturing, given how in front of trends he is.

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Two Guys and Willie Kopp
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05/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Willie Kopp, Head of Edge Campus Enterprise Sales.

John and Dave chat with Willie about everything from what PLCs in the coming years will look like in the age of AI to neutral host networking, a new term to both John and me!

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Two Guys and Riley Engle
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#13
04/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Riley Engle, consultant and Network Engineer at Rivian.

John and Dave chat Riley about IT/OT collaboration, the tips and tricks as to HOW you can get these teams working together, or "blending IT and OT teams" as Riley said, a bit on security, AI in manufacturing of course, and a few other things!

It was officially Riley's first podcast, but I think you'll agree it certainly didn't sound like it!

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Two Guys and Whitney Sales
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#12
03/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Whitney Sales, CRO and co-founder of Thoughtforge AI.

John and Dave chat with Whitney about her start in venture capital, how AI is changing what we think about automation, what can be automated now that couldn't before, saving lives through AI-enabled robotics that can learn, and much more!

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Two Guys and Jay Agarwal
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#11
02/01/2026

Two guys sit down with Jay Agarwal, VP of Digital Manufacturing at McCain Foods.

John and Dave chat with Jay about Digital Transformation in Manufacturing, AI, the right edge vs. cloud balance, energy needs, the importance of failing fast, and even how different geos and regions of the world see some of these topics differently from one another.

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Two Guys and Arno Thijssen
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#10
12/25/2025

Two guys sit down with Arno Thijssen, Senior Principal Automation and Controls Engineer for Keurig Dr Pepper.

John and Dave chat with Arno about IT and OT collaboration, AI, controls programming, manufacturing trends, and early Ethernet days in factories.

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Two Guys and Veronica Melton
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#9
12/01/2025

Two guys sit down with Veronica Melton, Ex-Ciscoian when she recorded this, now back at Cisco.

John, and Dave talk with Veronica about how her career started when she arrived into the United States from Venezuela, They discuss topics such as Private 5G in manufacturing, AI and the education system, leading with empathy, recommendations from Veronica from her time working with global multinational companies, and much more!

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Two Guys and Gary Workman
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#8
11/02/2025

Two guys sit down with Gary Workman, a four-decade veteran of a large automotive company, discussing everything from the early days of industrial Ethernet in factories to the definition of IT-OT collaboration and partnerships, and what features of industrial Ethernet finally won Gary over.

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Two Guys and Don Bartusiak
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#7
10/02/2025

Two guys sit down with one of the original creators of the now Open Group's Open Process Automation standard (O-PAS). Dr. Don Bartusiak. Listen in as the two guys discuss with Don the history of the standard, some of the key names and dates, why it was needed, and how customers, vendors, and others can take advantage of the lessons learned, today!


Two Guys and Albert Mitchell
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09/02/2025

Two guys sit down with one of the leading engineers within Cisco's IIoT business unit, Albert Mitchell. He is instrumental in developing the first industrial Ethernet switches that Cisco created, the Catalyst 2955. Albert also served as a technical marketing engineer for Cisco's industrial Ethernet products. Now semi-retired (guess we'll see!) we're excited that he decided to join us.

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Two Guys and Kam Chumley-Soltani
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#5
08/01/2025

Two Guys sit down for a chat with Kam Chumley-Soltani, director of US public sector systems engineering for Armis. Kam is one of the most energetic and positive people we've spoken with and it shows through!

We talk about everything from how we met him, to OT security, everyone's favorite two-letter word (A.I.) and had a ton of laughs along the way.

Tune in and let us know how you liked the episode!


Two Guys and Joe Marshall
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#4
07/01/2025

Two Guys are joined in this episode by Joe Marshall, one of the leaders within the Cisco Talos business. We discuss all sorts of things you'd expect, like cybersecurity, but we also detour into Waffle House, Ukraine, and a few other interesting tidbits.

If you're into any of these things, download this episode and check it out!

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Two Guys and Matt Nalbone
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06/03/2025

Two Guys sit down for a chat with Matt Nalbone, the Oil & Gas Lead for World Wide Technologies (WWT). Matt shares his insights into trends in the oil and gas business, his perspectives on cybersecurity and AI, and how life works for a Cisco partner like WWT.

This is a very informative session, and we encourage you to take a listen!

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Two Guys and Hazim Dahir
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06/03/2025

Two Guys sit down with one of Cisco's Distinguished Engineers, Hazim Dahir, where we talk about networking, cybersecurity, AI and many other items.

Lots of fun topics here to digest!

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Two Guys and Steve Gansen
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06/03/2025

Two guys (Dave and John) interview Steve Gansen, a long-time colleague and automation guy extraordinaire. Steve has a wealth of experience in automation and networking sales and is a respected resource in the industry.

Give it a listen and shoot us some feedback. Keep in mind that this is episode #1, so we're still learning...

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