Beyond B2B Marketing

AI is changing B2B marketing fast, but as customer expectations rise and B2B marketing tactics become commoditized by AI tools, the real competitive advantage is customer context.

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing podcast, Lee Odden talks with Heidi Bullock, Chief Marketing Officer at Tealium and former marketing leader at Marketo and Engagio, about why real-time customer data has become foundational for modern B2B marketing, personalization, AI-driven experiences, and revenue growth for B2B brans.

Heidi shares insights from nearly 25 years in B2B marketing leadership, exploring how customer...

As B2B buying becomes more fragmented, networked, and influenced by AI, how can marketing leaders build trust, align buying groups, and drive decisions with confidence?

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden sits down with Debbie Kestin Schildkraut, VP, Global B2B Program Lead and CMO Global Growth Council at the Association of National Advertisers. With a career spanning global leadership roles at IBM and industry-wide initiatives at ANA, Debbie brings a unique perspective on how B2B marketing is evolving at the intersection of AI, community, and influence.

Together...

As B2B buying cycles become increasingly complex and AI-driven, how can marketing leaders maintain credibility and stand out in a sea of "AI slop"?

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden sits down with Kelsey Voss, Principal Analyst at eMarketer, to discuss the evolving landscape of B2B marketing as we make our way through 2026. Kelsey brings a unique 360-degree perspective from her early days in New York theater and B2B publishing to leading marketing for startups and large enterprises.

Together, they explore why visibility alone is no longer...

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing Podcast, host Lee Odden sits down with David Rowlands, Head of Content at B2B Marketing and Propolis, to talk about how the role of B2B marketing is evolving. From his unconventional path into B2B marketing to leading content and community for a global audience of B2B marketing practitioners, David shares his  perspective on what's changed, and what hasn't, when it comes to creating impact in the world of B2B.

Their conversation centers on the rise of the Commercial Marketer, which is a shift f...

B2B go-to-market models are under pressure from every direction: AI-powered buyer autonomy, expanding buying networks. collapsing funnels, and fragmented tech stacks.

As a result, B2B marketing is approaching a "GTM Singularity."

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing Podcast, host Lee Odden talks with Dave Frankland, VP and Research Director at Forrester, about some of the major changes transforming B2B marketing, sales, and customer strategy - and why legacy revenue models are about to break.

As the opening keynote speaker and host of Forrester's B2B Summit North...

Facts tell but stories sell, so what does great B2B storytelling look like today? 

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden sits down with Michael Brenner, VP of Thought Leadership and Customer Advocacy at Workday, to talk about how empathy-driven content can help B2B brands tell stories that build trust, drive retention, and stand out.

Michael shares insights from his journey from sales to marketing leadership and explains why "marketing has a marketing problem." He argues that marketing's true role is not promotion, it's helping. The conversation covers how t...

What does human-centered marketing look like when AI is reshaping how buyers discover, evaluate and decide?

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden talks with Ashley Faus, Head of Lifecycle Marketing (Portfolio) at Atlassian and author of Human-Centered Marketing: How to Connect with Audiences in the Age of AI.

Ashley shares why traditional funnel thinking falls short in today's B2B environment and how marketers must rethink trust, content intent, and thought leadership. Together, they explore how human behavior-more than automation-should shape your strategy and how brands can authentically influence complex...

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden, CEO of TopRank Marketing, is joined by Todd Lebo, CEO of Ascend2 Research, to talk about why original research has become one of the most powerful proof points in modern B2B marketing.

Todd brings decades of experience across marketing publishing, data-driven research, and executive leadership. Drawing on Ascend2's work surveying nearly 800 senior B2B marketers, the conversation explores how research-driven content strengthens thought leadership, fuels influencer collaboration, and creates differentiated visibility in an AI-driven discovery environment.

Together, Lee and Todd discuss why...

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden, CEO of TopRank Marketing, is joined by Stephanie Losee, Director and Executive Editor at Salesforce and a longtime pioneer of content marketing for B2B brands.

Stephanie's career spans journalism, brand publishing, and executive content leadership - from Fortune Magazine to Dell, Autodesk, Politico, and now Salesforce. In this conversation, she talks about how B2B content has evolved, why thought leadership remains essential, and what B2B marketers must rethink as AI reshapes discovery and engagement.

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In this episode of Beyond B2B, host Lee Odden reconnects with longtime colleague Rishi Dave, Partner at Bain & Company and former CMO at Dun & Bradstreet, Vonage, and MongoDB. in this conversation they cover how B2B organizations are evolving from disconnected campaigns to modern growth systems-where AI accelerates performance but human creativity, story, and trust remain the true differentiators.

Rishi shares insights from Bain's work with leading global brands, including:

In this episode of Beyond B2B, Lee Odden talks with Brian Solis, Head of Global Innovation at ServiceNow and author of Mindshift, about how AI, innovation, and human creativity are transforming the way B2B organizations build trust, lead change, and create value.

Brian shares how the ServiceNow Innovation Office helps companies bridge the gap between iteration and innovation using technology to imagine entirely new possibilities for the future. He also explains why B2B marketing transformation starts with how we think, not what we do, and how leaders can drum up the courage to unlearn...

From LinkedIn Videos to Integrated Marketing: Heike Young on Creativity, Connection & B2B Marketing

What happens when one of LinkedIn's most engaging B2B creators brings her storytelling skills inside some of the world's biggest tech brands? In this episode, Heike Young joins Lee Odden to share how she's helped humanize B2B marketing through authentic video, integrated strategy, and a creator's mindset.

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Heike Young, former Head of Content, Social & Integrated Marketing at Microsoft, and one of LinkedIn's most recognizable B2B video voices, joins Lee Odden to discuss the intersection of...

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden sits down with Cindy Anderson, Chief Marketing Officer and Global Lead for Engagement and Eminence at the IBM Institute for Business Value and co-author of The ROI of Thought Leadership.

From Singapore, Cindy shares her journey from journalism to global thought leadership, defining what separates true thought leadership from traditional content marketing:  evidence-based intelligence, independent of product promotion, that gives leaders the insight and inspiration to act. She discusses her groundbreaking research with 4,000 executives that quantified thought leadership's business impact, revealing that 87% of executives made a p...

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden reconnects with B2B marketing visionary Jon Miller, co-founder of Marketo and Engagio, and now back in the lab building a new martech venture. From the rise and fall of MQLs to the role of AI in reshaping marketing automation, Jon delivers a clear-eyed view of what's broken in B2B marketing today and where the biggest opportunities lie ahead.

They explore how the old playbook of gated content and lead scoring is giving way to a new era of brand-driven growth, emotional relevance, and full-funnel...

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing podcast, host Lee Odden and guest Ann Handley, Chief Content Officer at MarketingProfs discuss AI "Analog Intelligence" as well as the continued impact of artificial intelligence on marketing while also exploring the importance of human vulnerability, creativity and authenticity in B2B storytelling,. 

Ann shares insights from her upcoming book, 'ASAP: As Slow As Possible,' which emphasizes the need to reclaim our humanity in a fast-paced digital world. She also shares lessons from Taylor Swift's marketing strategies and the impact of Instagram's new search features on user e...

In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, TopRank Marketing CEO Lee Odden sits down with Steve Kearns, Global Head of Content for Marketing Solutions at LinkedIn, to explore what it takes to build brand, demand, and lasting influence in the modern world of B2B marketing.

Steve shares how LinkedIn helped bring the Creative B2B Awards to Cannes Lions, why taste and storytelling matter more than ever in an AI-driven world, and how top brands like ServiceNow are blending emotional resonance with strategic execution. From the role of creators and video in B2B to...

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing Podcast, host Lee Odden speaks with Kathleen Booth, Senior Vice President of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion. They discuss all things related to building B2B community starting with Kathleen's journey to Pavilion, the unique structure of the Pavilion GTM leader community, and the specific needs of go-to-market leaders. 

The conversation explores the importance of community in everything from career development to the role of in-person events to the challenges of building successful communities. Kathleen shares  lessons learned from both business and personal use of AI in marketing and cr...

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing Podcast, host Lee Odden speaks with Amber Naslund, Director of Enterprise Sales and Customer Success at LinkedIn. They discuss Amber's transition from marketing to sales, the current market conditions affecting enterprise tech, and the role of AI in content creation. Amber emphasizes the importance of engagement on LinkedIn, the relevance of brand marketing, and the growing significance of video content. They also explore the untapped potential of B2B creators and the need for a long-term marketing strategy that includes brand awareness. The conversation highlights the importance of human connections...

On this second episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing Podcast, host Lee Odden sits down with Christiana Marouchos, VP of Marketing at StackAdapt. She shares how she scaled her team from 10 to 50 while keeping bold creativity at the center. Christiana explains how StackAdapt's AI-native platform fuses adtech and martech to extract more performance from every programmatic dollar. Their conversation explores why B2B brands should retool SEO now for Google's AI Overviews and how original, human-driven content fuels those algorithms. Christiana closes by urging leaders to pursue "impact efficiency," blending data discipline with human imagination to drive sustainable...

In this episode of the Beyond B2B Marketing podcast, CEO of TopRank Marketing, Lee Odden, interviews Ty Heath, Director & Co-Founder, The B2B Institute at LinkedIn. They discuss Ty's unique journey from elite athlete to B2B marketing thought leader, emphasizing the importance of creativity in B2B marketing, the rise of influencer marketing, and the need for emotional engagement in storytelling. Ty shares examples of successful B2B campaigns and highlights the growing significance of credible voices in the B2B creator economy. 

In this conversation, Ty Heath and Lee Odden also explore the nuances o...