The Call to Harmony

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with Mamie Payne — therapist, mother of five, eighth-generation Texan now living on Vancouver Island — for a conversation about the inner world and what it costs to distrust it.

Mamie traces a thread back to childhood: a moment when something in her flared up in disagreement with a person she loved and respected, and she found herself, without any language for it, standing somewhere she hadn't chosen to stand. That inner knowing became her compass. It also became the thing she held in shadow for decades, convinced that her disagreement was...

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down together with a listener's question: when a hard feeling shows up in the body and I slow my breathing to steady myself, am I doing the work — or just avoiding it politely? And what if the feeling is bigger than I can hold?

The move they're after is the one most of us spend our lives avoiding: going toward discomfort instead of away. That means paying attention to the physical sensations that come with emotion — the pit in the stomach, the tight shoulders — and staying with them long enough that t...

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with John Kesler — attorney, longtime meditator, member of the member of the LDS Church and founder of Integral Polarity Practice.

John begins with the year, decades ago, when every belief he held came apart - including his atheism. Alone in Germany, he sat for months while everything dissolved. He describes it as falling into an abyss — until he finally touched something underneath language and construct, something that could hold him. That search eventually led him to a religious journey and a novel foundational practice.

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In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with Savannah, the co-host who anchored the podcast's first season, for an update on where she's landed.

Savannah completed her Master's program and is now a therapist. She shares her faith journey over the past couple of years and walks through a conversation she'd been dreading for a year and a half: telling her family she's stepped away from church. More importantly, she shows us how she did it — how to show up with compassion and authenticity in a high-stakes conversation with the people you love most. Savannah offers a...

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with Madeline Hale — a fourth-generation member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, born just outside Glasgow and now running a hair salon in London. Madeline traces her spiritual life all the way back to childhood: from the time she was, in her words, "a wee tiny girl," she was taught she could speak directly with God and that she was known, wanted, and sent here on purpose. That early, unshakeable sense of belonging settled into her before she had any language for it, and it quietly carried her th...

In this episode, Stan and Tucker open with a quote from Carl Jung: until the unconscious becomes conscious, it will direct our lives — and we'll call it fate. From there, they dig into what that actually looks like in practice. Somatic work means tuning into the body's raw physical sensations — tightness, heat, pressure, a knot in the gut — as a doorway into whatever's unresolved beneath the surface, rather than staying stuck in the stories we tell about why we feel that way. To bring the idea to life, Tucker invites a guest into the conversation: Claude, the AI, who guides...

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down face to face with their friend Haymitch St. Stephen — artist, meditation guide, and author of Friend of the Devil. Haymitch shares how a devastating accident in high school shattered his simple view of the world, how losing close friends to suicide led him to ask a question he can't stop chewing on, and what he's learning about self-forgiveness, the loving gaze, and what it means to truly flourish. Together they explore how the same storytelling mind that makes us uniquely human can also undo us — and how dropping out of our head...

What if every difficult feeling you've ever had was simply a wave that hadn't finished moving through you? In this episode, Stan and Tucker explore the wave-like nature of the inner world — every thought, emotion, and urge rising, peaking, and falling — and what happens when resistance turns the water of our experience into molasses or even ice. Stan shares a story of a wave that nearly broke his nervous system and what his older, wiser self would say to the version of him caught inside it. Together they trace a quiet freedom that becomes available when we learn to watc...

What happens when the God you thought you knew takes off the mask — and reveals something more expansive than you could have previously comprehended? In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with teacher, author, and developmental guide Thomas McConkie to explore the vast, sometimes terrifying landscape of the inner world. Thomas shares his own journey from leaving the faith of his childhood, to going all-in with Buddhist practice, to a profound shift in identity that opened his heart back toward Jesus and the faith of his youth with new eyes. Together they explore how spiritual growth unfolds developmentally, wh...

What if the most important shift in your life isn’t changing your circumstances—but changing your state?

In this episode of The Call to Harmony, Tucker and Stan explore what it means to find and shift your “state of harmony”—the inner frequency that shapes how you experience everything from relationships to stress to the present moment itself.

Most of us move through life assuming that what happens around us determines how we feel. But what if that’s only part of the story? What if we can learn to notice our current state—and gently shi...

Exploring Belief, Shame and Startling Freedom in the Inner World.

In this rich conversation, Stan and Tucker welcome therapist and author Paul Peterson — whose work sits at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and the full human experience — to explore what it means to actually inhabit your inner world.

Paul traces his own journey from living "one step behind" his interior life to discovering the surprising wisdom hidden inside shame, suppressed anger, and the deeply held beliefs we carry about ourselves. Together, the three explore what it looks like to name one of those beliefs, honor the...

What happens when suffering cracks open a door to the inner life — and God walks through it? In this episode, Stan and Tucker welcome Sarah Brown, a hospital chaplain, counseling student, mother, wife and Latter-Day Saint for a conversation that is as theologically profound as it is personally vulnerable.

Sarah's journey began with a season of serious illness during her college years at BYU, when the weight of chronic illness forced an unexpected choice: be swept along by circumstances, or find a new kind of footing. What she discovered wasn't a cure, but something perhaps more durable — the...

Discover the heart's transformative power in this episode, where Tucker Boyle and Stan Bennion guide you to a place of deeper peace, love, and clarity. Explore how perceiving through the heart, rather than the mind, can lead to profound joy and spiritual awakening. Learn practical steps to connect with your heart, calm your nervous system, and embrace life's paradoxes. This conversation offers simple tools to cultivate a more open, compassionate heart, inviting you to experience life with love, presence, and possibility.

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In this episode of The Call to Harmony, Tucker Boyle and Stan Bennion explore the journey of self-discovery and the importance of understanding our internal world. They discuss the challenges of finding harmony within ourselves amidst external chaos, the impact of our internal state on our experiences, and the significance of meditation and mindfulness in this exploration. The conversation also touches on the metaphor of the Hubble Space Telescope to illustrate the vastness of our internal world and the importance of facing our fears and beliefs to achieve true fulfillment.

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In this final episode of Season 1, Tucker and Savannah revisit the topics covered this season. Starting by accepting the dissonance of being on a spiritual journey, then naming practices that have helped them, and partnering those with curiosity, our hosts remind us that there is always help on our journey.

In this standalone practice, discover how mindfulness can guide you in balancing longing and connection, and lead to a deeper understanding of self and spirituality.

Savannah and Tucker delve into the concept of soul longing and the quest for divine connection. They share insights on embracing emptiness, trusting one's inner compass, and how longing can be transformative. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that encourages you to embrace your journey with patience and curiosity.

Join Tucker Boyle in exploring the transformative power of how slowing down can awaken your inner peace and help you find harmony.

Join Tucker Boyle in this practice of slowing down to increase your awareness.

A standalone mindfulness practice to raise awareness and increase capacity to navigate intense emotions

In this conversation, Tucker and Savannah explore the complexities of navigating intense emotions, particularly in the wake of traumatic events. They discuss the importance of holding space for multiple perspectives, the challenges of coping with high-intensity situations, and the necessity of considering professional help. The dialogue emphasizes the body's natural responses to stress and the significance of emotional awareness. Practical tools and practices for managing emotions and finding harmony are shared, highlighting the power of connection and support in the healing process.

Using the profound metaphor of the caterpillar and butterfly, Tucker leads us in practice. We reconnect with a time we felt harmony and embrace the wisdom that guides us through life's metamorphoses.

In this conversation, Tucker and Savannah explore the themes of faith deconstruction, personal transformation, and the journey of self-discovery. They discuss the importance of sitting with discomfort, the process of unraveling beliefs, and the hope that comes from trusting the inner journey. Through metaphors of caterpillars and salmon, they illustrate the natural process of transformation and the divine guidance that supports individuals in their spiritual paths.

Join this practice of honoring both and sitting with the voices that are inside us, not in order to pick one or the other, but in order to hold both. We will let them teach us and bring us to a place of peace and wisdom and a higher level than we are right now. This standalone practice is an excerpt from episode 20 of Season 1.

In this enlightening episode, we delve into the intricate tapestry of faith journeys. Tucker and Savannah explore how religious and spiritual paths can intertwine to shape our beliefs and experiences. This episode reveals the profound impact of combining these paths, offering a fresh perspective on faith and spirituality. Whether you're seeking inspiration or a deeper understanding, this episode invites you to reflect on your own journey and the unique blend of paths that guide you. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that bridges the gap between religion and spirituality.

This short practice walks you through the basics of becoming still, recognizing tension, and sitting with it. This two and a half-minute practice is a great start for beginners!

In this conversation, Savannah and Tucker explore the implications of AI on humanity's work and the potential shift from survival to thriving. They discuss the importance of inner work, the transformation of pain into compassion, and the role of personal growth in achieving a fulfilling life. The episode concludes with a simple inner work practice to help listeners engage with their emotions and foster transformation.

In this insightful practice, Tucker and Savannah exploring and identifying the body's physical responses to triggers. You'll learn how to identify and distinguish your physical responses from the original trauma. We hope you'll begin to unravel your emotional reactions with this practical guidance. Please listen to this practice from the beginning for full instruction.

In this episode, join Tucker Boyle and Savannah as they delve into the complexities of trauma responses and the journey towards harmony. Through personal stories and practical exercises, they explore how to navigate intense emotions and find peace amidst chaos. Discover the power of mindfulness, the importance of seeking help, and the beauty of embracing life's challenges as part of a harmonious path. Tune in to learn how to transform trauma into a valuable human experience.

In this practice Tucker leads us through:

In this episode we continue diving into the transformative power of discomfort and its role in personal growth. Join Savannah and Tucker as they explore the concepts of “boxes” —the invisible boundaries we create that shape our perceptions and interactions— and of "box breaking". Savannah and Tucker share personal stories and thoughtful discussion to explore how stepping outside these comfort zones can lead to greater self-awareness, empathy, and freedom.

This practice explores how embracing discomfort can lead to deeper harmony and understanding. Discover how discomfort can be a doorway to personal evolution and compassion.

In this episode we delve into the transformative power of discomfort and its role in personal growth. Through personal stories and thoughtful discussion, they reveal how stepping outside these comfort zones can lead to greater self-awareness, and empathy. Join us to discover how embracing discomfort can illuminate new paths to harmony and authenticity.

In this episode, Savannah and Tucker explore the complexities of personal faith journeys, emphasizing the importance of trust, presence, and the unique experiences that shape each individual's path. They discuss feelings of isolation, the courage required to pioneer new ground in spirituality, and the challenges of navigating change and dissonance. The conversation highlights the significance of facing fears, sitting with emotions, and integrating different parts of oneself to find harmony in the journey of life.

In this standalone practice, Tucker teaches us how to practice stepping back. He guides us through slowing down, noticing and naming our emotions, and embodying those emotions.

Savannah and Tucker explore the importance of feeling emotions in the journey towards harmony. They discuss how to process emotions through the NET practice, which involves noticing and naming feelings, embodying them, and taking steps towards core values. The conversation emphasizes the significance of being present and living from the heart rather than the mind, and how this practice can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of oneself.

Takeaways

In part 2 of the conversation, Tucker and Savannah explore the complexities of achieving harmony in life. They discuss the challenges of navigating confusion and frustration, the importance of acceptance, and how disturbances can lead to personal growth. The dialogue emphasizes that harmony is not a permanent state but a practice that involves embracing life's disturbances and learning from them.

Takeaways

In this standalone practice, Tucker leads us through the practice of accepting our feelings, whether pleasant or unpleasant. This practice encourages gratitude for life's transitions and touches on changes as forms of death and rebirth. This practice also highlights divine harmony that exists within the cycles of change (inherent in life on earth). The practice concludes with a reminder to trust in the diving process of transformation.

In this episode, Savannah and Tucker explore the complexities of spiritual journeys, discussing feelings of confusion, loss, and the struggle for connection with the divine. They delve into the narratives that arise during difficult times and the importance of acceptance and compassion in the face of change. The conversation emphasizes the cyclical nature of life, where death and rebirth coexist, and the necessity of embracing transformation as a path to greater love and understanding.

In this practice you'll learn to move past mental barriers using relaxation. This practice involves stretching while sitting on the ground, though you can also do it standing.