REFERRALS PODCAST
Get more referrals with the Referrals Podcast! Thought Leader, Best-selling Author, Referral Master, and Host Michael J. Maher brings you the best advice and insights on growing your business by referral and shows you how to take your repeat business and referrals to the next level. The Referrals Podcast is a weekly show where Michael J. Maher, author of (7L) The Seven Levels of Communication, interviews a top producing Realtor, lender, or small business owner about how they are implementing the (7L) system and winning! The Referrals Podcast is all about Real People. Real Stories. Real Referrals.
456 - 39 Referrals...But That Wasn't the Best Part with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Brenda Conyn
Title: 39 Referrals… But That Wasn't the Best Part
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Brenda Conyn, REALTOR® | Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Description: What could happen if you stopped thinking about hosting an event…and finally just did one?
In this episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with Brenda Conyn to talk about the very first event she ever hosted; a Thanksgiving Pie Day.
Brenda had recently moved to a new community, had a very small local database, and was d...
455 How One Pie Day Generated 45 Referrals with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Brenda Miertschin
Title: How One Pie Day Generated 45 Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Brenda Miertschin, Associate Broker with eXp Realty in Arizona
Description: What happens when you stop overthinking, stop trying to reinvent the wheel, and simply follow a proven system?
In this episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with Brenda Miertschin to break down how she used the Event Mastery system to turn a Thanksgiving Pie Day into an incredible referral-generating event.
Brenda had taken Event...
454 The Right Room: How to Network for More Referrals with Michael J Maher
Title: The Right Room: How to Network for More Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: Are you spending time networking… but still not getting the referrals you expected?
The problem may not be how much you're networking. It may be the room you're in.
In this special episode pulled from Michael J. Maher's recent Just Ask Michael (JAM) session, Michael breaks down his "Right Room" strategy for building a referral-based business through intentional networking.
Michael takes us back to th...
The 12 Words That Trigger Real Estate Referrals with Michael J Maher
Title: The 12 Words That Trigger Real Estate Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: What if the people in your database wanted to refer you but simply didn't know what to listen for?
In this solo episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher reveals a simple way to make yourself more referable: teach the people in your sphere the trigger words and life events that often signal a real estate opportunity.
Michael shares his Core 9 "D" Words plus three bonus triggers that can...
21 Referrals Earned From ONE Event with Michael J Maher and Jamie Yezarski
Title: 21 Referrals Earned From ONE Event
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Jamie Yezarski, Real Estate Agent - New Bern, North Carolina
Description: What if your next client event didn't cost you money… but actually made you money AND generated 21 real estate referrals?
In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with longtime real estate professional Jamie Yezarski to unpack the story behind Jamie's recent Gratitude and Gravy event.
Jamie had just four weeks to pull th...
451 The 30-Day Challenge That Changed Their Referral Game with Host Michael J Maher and Guests Joey Calvin and Rob Howard
Title: The 30-Day Challenge That Changed Their Referral Game
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guests: Joey Calvin and Rob Howard
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What happens when two highly committed Realtors enter a 30-day challenge, support each other instead of competing, and decide to go all in?
In this episode, Michael sits down with SummerFest Challenge co-winners Joey Calvin and Rob Howard to unpack exactly what helped them rise to the top. They share how blocking off time, creating daily rituals, scheduling meaningful one-on-one conversations, improving fo...
450 The Referral Strategies You Missed in (7L) with Michael J Maher
Title: The Referral Strategies You Missed in (7L)
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guests: Karla Roberdeau and Thommy Sandvick
Description: Some of the most powerful strategies in The Seven Levels of Communication are hiding in plain sight.
In this special recording from the final session of (7L) Mastery class, Michael J. Maher joins Coach Karla and Coach Thommy to unpack the referral strategies, relationship-building techniques, and business lessons readers often miss the first time through the book.
Michael reveals how the opening chapters of (7L) can serve as a practical networking...
449 This Scheduling Secret Changed Michael's Life
Title: This Scheduling Secret Changed Michael's Life
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Solo Episode
Description: After an unexpected emergency appendectomy, Michael J. Maher was reminded just how important relationships truly are. In this solo episode, Michael shares how ChatGPT helped him recognize that he may need emergency care, while also explaining why artificial intelligence can never replace genuine human connection.
Michael addresses three major concerns affecting professionals today: the decline in meaningful relationships since 2020, the tendency to confuse learning with productivity, and the...
448 How to Beat the #1 Agent in Your Area Every Time wtih Host Michael J Maher and Guest Christina Ward
Title: How to Beat the #1 Agent in Your Area Every Time
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Christina Ward
Description: What does it take to build a real estate business that consistently closes approximately 100 transactions a year through relationships and referrals?
In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with Christina Ward, a top-producing real estate broker and leader of Christina & Company at Keller Williams Realty Boise.
Christina shares how she entered real estate at just 22...
447 Back on Track: How Time Mastery Helps You Reset When Life Gets Messy with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Tina Collazo
Title: Back on Track: How Time Mastery Helps You Reset When Life Gets Messy
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Tina Collazo
Description: What happens when life knocks you completely off your ideal schedule?
In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with longtime GenGen member, real estate professional, entrepreneur, and relationship-builder Tina Collazo to talk about what Time Mastery really looks like in real life.
Tina shares how the Time Mastery system helped her regain control of...
446 Strategic Event Planner Shares Secret to Hosting Award Winning Events with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Courtney Swope
Title: Strategic Event Planner Shares Secret to Hosting Award Winning Events
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Courtney Swope
Description: The best events are not just planned. They are experienced. In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher welcomes Courtney Swope, a strategic events professional with experience managing complex corporate events, large-scale programs, multimillion-dollar budgets, national event logistics, and unforgettable guest experiences.
Courtney shares what most people never see behind the scenes of event planning: the risk management, deadlines, vendor coordination, budget...
445 AI Can't Replace This: The Human Side of Referrals with Michael J Maher
Title: AI Can't Replace This: The Human Side of Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: In this special JAM session episode, Michael J. Maher leads a powerful conversation about the future of referrals, relationships, and real estate in a world increasingly dominated by artificial intelligence.
While AI can help with tasks, content, data, and efficiency, Michael makes one thing very clear: the professionals who master human connection will be the ones who win. Real estate agents, lenders, and business owners who know how to build trust, manage...
444 The Upstream Strategy for Getting More Referrals from Fewer People with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Justin Stoddart
Title: The Upstream Strategy for Getting More Referrals from Fewer People
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Justin Stoddart
Description: What if getting more referrals did not require building more relationships, but building the right relationships?
In this episode, Michael J. Maher sits down with Justin Stoddart, author of *The Upstream Model* and host of *Built on Referrals*, to reveal how professionals can generate more referrals from fewer people.
Justin explains how to identify "upstream" partners: trusted professionals who are...
443 Its Never Too Late to Become a Referral Generating Machine with Host Michael J Maher and Guest Stacy Luna
Title: It's Never Too Late to Become a Referral Generating Machine
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Stacy Luna
Description: In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with Stacy Luna, a mortgage professional with more than 30 years of experience, to talk about her journey back into the Generosity Generation and Referral Mastery Academy.
Stacy first discovered The Seven Levels of Communication back in 2012, but it wasn't until 2025 that she fully stepped back in and started implementing the system one...
442 From New in Town to Top 10: How Events Built a Referral Business with Christine Pandolf and Michael J Maher
EPISODE TITLE: From New in Town to Top 10: How Events Built a Referral Business
HOST: Michael J. Maher
GUEST: Christine Pandolf
DESCRIPTION: What if you moved to a brand-new city, knew almost nobody, and had to build a thriving referral-based business from scratch?
That's exactly what Christine Pandolf did.
After relocating from Upstate New York to the Lake Norman area of North Carolina, Christine obtained her real estate license during COVID and began searching for ways to build relationships...
441- 65 Referrals - One Event - $44 Out of Pocket with Allen Smith and Michael J Maher
Title: 65 Referrals. One Event. $44 Out of Pocket.
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Allen Smith
Description: What if you could host a memorable event, strengthen relationships, support a local charity, generate dozens of referral opportunities, and do it all for less than the cost of taking a client to dinner?
In this episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Allen Smith, Realtor with Team Encompass in Raleigh, North Carolina, to unpack the story behind his "Fiesta with Friends" Cinco de Mayo event. After...
440 He Hosted 2 Events...One Generated 20 Referrals with Bryan Coward and Michael J Maher
Title: He Hosted 2 Events...One Generated 20 Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Bryan Coward
Description: What's the difference between an event that creates a little buzz… and an event that creates REAL referrals?
In this episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Tampa Bay Realtor Bryan Coward to break down two real-life events he hosted using the Event Mastery system. One event generated an incredible 20 referrals from just 35 attendees. The second event had even MORE people show up… but produced far fewer refe...
439 What do Michael Jackson, Marijuana, and Michael J Maher Have in Common
Title: What do Michael Jackson, Marijuana, And Michael J Maher Have in Common
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Thommy Sandvick and Jonathan Alvarez
Description: What happens when a referral coach, a holistic wellness entrepreneur, and the founder of the Generosity Generation sit down together?
One of the MOST unique and surprisingly powerful conversations we've ever had on the Referrals Podcast. In this episode, Michael J. Maher sits down with Thommy Sandvick and Jonathan Alvarez to unpack how they created wildly successful community events...
438 Fun Events = Serious Referrals: A New Way to Generate Leads
Title: Fun Events = Serious Referrals: A New Way to Generate Leads
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Tim Lockhart, Nancy Ward, Rebecca Zavacky
Description: What if the secret to generating more leads wasn't more hustle… but more FUN?
In this powerful Event Mastery wrap-up episode, Michael J. Maher sits down with Tim Lockhart, Nancy Ward, and Rebecca Zavacky to unpack how they turned simple, fun events into powerful referral-generating machines.
These agents didn't rely on cold calling, online ads, or ou...
437 He Went From About to Quit to The Fire is Lit. How One Event Sparked a 2.3M Breakthrough with Jesse Gomez and Michael J Maher
Title: He Was Ready to Quit… Then the Fire Was Lit 🔥 How One Event Sparked a $2.3M Breakthrough
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Guest: Jesse Gomez
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Description: What if the breakthrough you've been searching for in your real estate business isn't more leads… but a completely different strategy?
In this powerful episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with California Realtor Jesse Gomez, who shares his incredible transformation from being on the verge of quitting real estate to reignit...
436 From 1,500 to ONE: How Steve McIlvaine Won the March Magic Challenge (And What He Did Differently)
Title: From 1,500 to ONE: How Steve McIlvaine Won the March Magic Challenge (And What He Did Differently)
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Host: Michael J. Maher
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Guest: Steve McIlvaine
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Description: What does it take to rise above 1,500+ participants and become the undisputed #1 in a referral-generating challenge?
In this powerful episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with returning guest—and now March Magic Champion—Steve McIlvaine to uncover exactly what separated him from the crowd.
This is...
435 How to Build a Billion-Dollar Referral Business (5 People at a Time) with Michael J Maher and Sheena Saydam
Title: How to Build a Billion-Dollar Referral Business (5 People at a Time)
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Sheena Saydam
Description: Learn how to build a billion-dollar real estate business without chasing leads, paid ads, or cold calling… but simply about people?
In this powerful episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Sheena Saydam—leader of the Saydam Properties Group, a billion-dollar referral-based real estate business to uncover the surprisingly simple strategy behind her massive success.
From starting in a...
434 - Forget "Always Be Closing"...Here's the New ABC of Sales with Host Michael J Maher and Guests Jesse Kern and Lisa Velez
Title: Forget "Always Be Closing"… Here's the New ABC of Sales
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Host: Michael J. Maher
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Guest: Jesse Kern and Lisa Velez
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Description: What if everything you've been taught about sales… is backwards?
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Michael sits down with Jesse Kern and Lisa Velez after completing the Event Mastery VIP Edition to reveal a new way of thinking about sales—one that replaces pressure, pitching, and closing with connection, generosity, and community.
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Jesse and Lisa didn't just learn the s...
433 The Number 1 Challenge Even Top Producers Face
Title: The Number One Challenge Even Top Producers Face
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Karla Roberdeau and Neal Smith
Description: What's the biggest challenge top-producing agents are facing right now—and more importantly, how do you overcome it?
Michael J. Maher breaks down the #1 obstacle that even the most successful agents encounter as they grow their business. The truth? What got you here won't get you there.
Michael dives into the shift from doing everything yourself to building systems, creating leverage, and stepping into true mastery. If yo...
432 Law of the Lid: How to Increase Your Real Estate Referrals with Events with Michael J Maher and Jackie Little
Learn how to generate more real estate referrals using client events and referral marketing strategies with Host Michael J. Maher and Real Estate Agent Jackie Little.
Title: Law of the Lid: How to Increase Your Real Estate Referrals with Events
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Jackie Little
Description: Want to generate more real estate referrals using client events? In this episode, Michael J. Maher sits down with Realtor Jackie Little to discuss how implementing the Event Mastery system helped her break through a plateau and turn events into...
431 They Were SHOCKED this Simple Strategy Generated Referrals
Title: They Were SHOCKED this Simple Strategy Generated Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Jake Yencarelli and Jennifer Myers
Description: What happens when two experienced real estate professionals decide to stop guessing how to run events and start following a proven system? In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael J. Maher sits down with Keller Williams leaders Jake Yencarelli and Jennifer Myers to unpack their experience implementing Event Mastery VIP Edition for the first time. What started with some skepticism quickly turned into powerful results: highly attended events...
430 Event Mastery Explained: How to Turn Community Events into Predictable Referrals with Michael J Maher
Title: Event Mastery Explained: How to Turn Community Events into Predictable Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: In this special training session, Michael J. Maher pulls back the curtain on one of the most powerful, and overlooked, strategies for generating referrals: events. In this episode, originally recorded as a live Zoom session titled Event Mastery Explained, Michael shares how real estate professionals can create predictable referrals by hosting simple, scalable community events.
Michael explains why events are the single most effective way to communicate with your database, build...
429 Michael's Takeaways From the Best Keller Williams Family Reunion Ever
Title: Michael's Takeaways from the Best Keller Williams Family Reunion Ever
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: In this special JAM Session replay, Michael shares his biggest takeaways from what he's calling the "best Keller Williams Family Reunion ever." From powerful main stage moments to behind-the-scenes insights, this episode dives deep into what's next for real estate—and why we are fully stepping into the Generosity Generation.
Michael breaks down the shift from the Ego Era to a generosity-driven business model, the power of intensity over simple consistency, and why "slow is the new fast." Yo...
428 These 3 Things Transformed Him into a Referral Generating-Machine and 6x his Business in 9 Months with Michael J Maher and William Craddock
Title: These 3 Things Transformed Him into a Referral Generating Machine and 6x his Business in 9 Months
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: William "Will" Craddock
Description: In this powerful success story episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Will Craddock — a true implementor of the (7L) Referral Mastery System and a standout leader inside the Generosity Generation.
In just one year, Will went from grinding through seven networking meetings a week to intentionally choosing one — all while dramatically increasing his referrals, transactions, and influence. He shares how mentorship from leaders shaped his...
427 Untapped B2B Connection Strategy to Get Referrals with Michael J Maher and Thommy Sandvick
**Title:**
Untapped B2B Connection Strategy to Get Referrals
**Host:**
Michael J. Maher
**Guest:**
Thommy Sandvick
**Description:**
This episode of the *Referrals Podcast* is a re-release of a powerful conversation between Michael J. Maher and Certified Referral Trainer Thommy Sandvick—brought back because the lessons are as relevant today as ever. Together, they unpack what actually works when it comes to networking, why so many people struggle with it, and how authentic relationships naturally lead to referrals. If networking has ever felt awkward, forced, or ineffective, this episode will help yo...
426 The Year of the Sphere: Go From Rollercoaster to Referrals with Michael J Maher and Erin Bradley
Title: The Year of the Sphere: Go From Rollercoaster to Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Erin Bradley
Description: In this episode of Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Erin Bradley to explore what it really means to stop surviving success and start building a business you don't need a vacation from. Erin shares her journey from "broke to burnout" in real estate and how implementing systems, scale, and intentional energy management transformed her business and life. This conversation dives into fulfillment over hustle, planning for success, overcoming fear, and shifting from transactional growth...
425 The Year of the Sphere The Highest and Best Use of Your Limited Resources to Get Referrals with Michael J Maher and Joey Calvin
Title: The Year of the Sphere: The Highest & Best Use of Your Limited Resources to Get Referrals
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Joey Calvin
Description: In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with rising referral-based Realtor Joey Calvin to break down one of the most talked-about posts inside the GenGen community—grading your database using The Seven Levels of Communication. Joey shares how shifting from contacting everyone equally to intentionally segmenting his sphere transformed his business, his time, and his relationships. They dive deep into how to identify Ambassadors, VIPs, an...
424 The Year of the Sphere With Host Michael J Maher Begins With Perk Your Sphere Author Liz Johnson
Title: The Year of the Sphere With Host Michael J. Maher Begins With Perk Your Sphere Author Liz Johnson
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Liz Johnson
Description: As Michael J. Maher officially kicks off the Year of the Sphere 2026, he sits down with one of the most disciplined, mission-driven professionals in real estate — Liz Johnson. With over 1,500 transactions since 2004, Liz shares her powerful journey from cold calling burnout to building a thriving, referral-based business rooted in relationships, community, and trust.
In this episode, Liz unpacks her proven sphere expansion strategy, including how sh...
424 Can You Change Your Life in 30 Mornings? YES You Can! with Hal Elrod and Michael J Maher
Title: Can You Change Your Life in 30 Mornings? YES You Can!
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Hal Elrod
Description: What if the way you start your morning could completely transform your life—and your business? In this powerful re-release from 2022, Michael sits down with bestselling author and speaker Hal Elrod to unpack The Miracle Morning and the simple daily practices that have helped millions create extraordinary results.
Hal breaks down the SAVERS framework—Silence, Affirmations, Visualization, Exercise, Reading, and Scribing—and shares how one specific element, affirmations, became the turning point in his own li...
423 Can One Sentence, One Person, or One Strategy Change Your Life?
Title: Can One Sentence, One Person, or One Strategy Change Your Life?
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: In this special episode, Michael shares powerful insights from a recent JAM (Just Ask Michael) session that could completely shift the way you approach referrals—and your business as a whole. He breaks down one sentence, one person, and one strategy that have the potential to change your life and your results. Whether you feel stuck, scattered, or simply ready for your next level of growth, this episode will bring clarity, focus, and a renewed sense of purpose ar...
422 Q: What are you doing for the Holidays? A: Counting Referrals! with Dennis Daniels and Host Michael J Maher
Title: Q: What are you doing for the Holidays? A: Counting Referrals!
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Dennis Daniels
Description: In this episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Dennis Daniels to talk about what it really looks like to build a referral-based business—especially during the holiday season. Dennis shares his journey in real estate, what his business looked like before finding the Generosity Generation, the (7L) System, and Referral Mastery Academy, and how implementing these strategies has helped him create clarity, consistency, and confidence in his business. If you're wondering ho...
421 The Referral Puzzle: Go From Chaos to Clarity. Fix it FOREVER!
Title: The Referral Puzzle: Go from Chaos to Clarity. FIX it FOREVER!
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: In this week's episode, you'll hear an exclusive excerpt from Session One of our brand-new Referral Mastery class. Michael introduces "The Fix: Go From Chaos to Clarity," a powerful 7-step framework designed to eliminate overwhelm and solve problems forever.
Whether you're trying to streamline your business, get organized, or improve your referral flow, this simple system brings order to the madness and gives you repeatable clarity you can use again and again. If you're ready to stop putting...
420 Your Year of Referrals Starts Here: The Referral Mastery System Explained
Title: Your Year of Referrals Starts Here: The Referral Mastery System Explained
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: Ready to make 2026 your most referral-filled year yet? Michael walks you through The Referral Mastery System—covering the three pillars, the step-by-step classes that bring them to life, and "The Fix," his seven-step method to solve problems permanently. Learn how to create your TOP YAP for your top clients and your ALL YAP for your full database, and stay top of mind all year long.
(7L) Referral Strategies: YAPS, The Fix, Referral Mastery System
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419 Sneak Peek into One of the Best Black Friday Specials We've Ever Seen
Title: Sneak Peek into One of the Best Black Friday Specials We've Ever Seen
Host: Michael J. Maher
Description: The official launch of our best Black Friday deal ever!
Special Offer: https://referral-mastery-academy.mykajabi.com/black-friday-2025
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*This episode is best viewed in video format and can be seen at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K8sRmCDIiI&t=1s
418 A 52-Week Plan to Get the Most Amount of Referrals in the Shortest Amount of Time WITHOUT Spending a Dime with Michael J Maher
Title: A 52-Week Plan to Get the Most Amount of Referrals in the Shortest Amount of Time WITHOUT Spending a Dime
Host: Michael J. Maher
Guest: Sheri Maher
Description: In this powerful and practical episode, Michael and Sheri break down one of the most misunderstood — and most important — distinctions in real estate success: the difference between a traditional business plan and an appreciation plan. You'll learn why a business plan sets your direction, but an appreciation plan fuels your referrals… and your results.
They also dive into how to grade your database, who truly...