The Scope Podcast

In this enlightening episode Jen and Karen welcome a special guest; Luke Tanner, Karen's son. As one of the few boys in a sport traditionally dominated by females at the amateur level, Luke shares his unique perspective on the equestrian community.

Join the conversation as they explore Luke's experiences competing in horse shows, where he enjoyed a warm reception free from typical body comparisons and mean-spirited rivalry. Luke found himself frequently recognized with sportsmanship awards, a distinction that sparked discussions about gender dynamics in competitive environments. 

Together, they delve into the contrasts between male and f...

When you think NCEA/NCAA Equestrian, powerhouse teams such as Georgia, SMU, Auburn and the University of South Carolina probably spring to mind. But it was actually the College of Charleston that brought an NCEA Trophy back to South Carolina in 2025. Led by Head Coach, Natasha "Tash" Vitkovic, and Assistant Coach, Hope King, the Cougars clenched the NCEA Single Discipline National Championship Runner Up Title. 

Single discipline teams compete in just NCEA Jumping Seat and do not field a Western Team. Generally favored by smaller schools, single discipline teams can be stand alone or run alongside an I...

In this episode, Karen and Jen tackle the contentious issue of class limits within USEF Hunter Jumper competitions. The hosts reference articles from The Plaid Horse Magazine by Robin Greenwood and Nina Thornton, and draw on their own experiences. 

As the hosts explore the pros and cons of class limits, the conversation flows into multiple scenarios that demonstrate just how complex this issue is. They discuss everything from accessibility, enforcement issues, and of course, horse welfare. 

Tune in for a spirited episode that's sure to spark even more conversation in the equestrian community

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Certified Athletic Trainer, Tamara Harris discusses her role with The University of South Carolina Equestrian Team--from treating minor pains and strains and mixing the Gatorade "just right," to handling 911 calls in the event of an emergency. Tamara also offers up advice on what barns should include in their own emergency plans, and the medical supplies that no barn should be without.  

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Karen's son hopes to Door Dash his way to his first horse purchase--and he's considering importing--impossible right?! Well maybe not. Sure, its going to take A LOT of "Dashing," but importing horses isn't reserved for the super rich. In this episode, Karen has lots of questions for Jen on her experience traveling to Europe to try horses, importing horses off of videos and so much more. Get ready for real talk about the pitfalls and the upsides of importing in the five figure price range. 

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Karen and Jen, a dedicated horse show parent and a seasoned horse trainer, dive into some of the the crucial aspects of purchasing a horse. They explore the importance of enlisting professional help when making such an significant investment, discussing how expert guidance can prevent costly mistakes that often arise from online purchases or amatuer decisions. 

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From the fine art of cheering to the delicate balance of arrival times, Karen and Jen dissect some of the often unwritten rules of horse show etiquette. 

Discover why parents should steer clear of the in gate and the importance of timing when it comes to morning barn chores. From their two different perspectives, Karen and Jen explore the reasons behind these practices—are they all about safety, or is there a bit of trainer power play at work? 

Whether you're a rider, trainer, horse show newbie, or seasoned show parent, this episode is sure to b...

In a few short weeks, young riders and diminutive equines from all over the country will flock to Lexington, Kentucky for one of the most anticipated events of the year; USEF Pony Finals. 

Stepping into the Walnut Ring is the culmination of months, maybe even years of preparation and hard work. For some riders, Pony Finals is the start of an illustrious equestrian career (think Lillie Keenan). For others, Pony Finals is the first and last opportunity to compete on a grand, National stage. 

With educational opportunities, a range of awards, and a deep sense of...

The Baran Global Hunter Classic is an event like no other and Liza Towell Boyd has put together a team like no other!

Liza, along with her daughter Elle Boyd, and her brother Hardin Towell, are traveling to Valkendwaard, Netherlands, to take on six other teams in a Nations Cup style competition that includes an under saddle, a classic hunter round and a handy hunter round. After three days of competition, from July 11-13, 2025, the winning team will walk away with their share of the €300,000 purse. 

We caught up with Liza moments after she won the...

Karen and Jen are on location in Raeford NC for the NCHJA Annual Horse Show and tracked down the legendary pony trainer, Robin Greenwood. If you're a pony rider who wants to move to the front of the model, put this episode at the top of your playlist. Robin gave us tips on turn out, bridle fit and more. Dual discipline pony rider, Brynn Garrett gave us a pony finals preview and explained some of the differences between her hunter ponies and her hackney ponies. And we caught up with Anna Tyler, winner of the 2025 EJ Haun Medal Finals. 

Karen and Jen are on location in Raeford NC for the NCHJA Annual Horse Show. We've got the show day wrap up and so much more! USEF Judge Mike Rosser talks about some of his biggest pet peeves when he's officiating. Horse Show Manager and Course Designer Patrick Rodes discusses the many hats he wears, as well as the merits of more traditional style horse shows. And Karen caught up with Emily Grace Swinson, winner of the 2025 Bryan Jones Adult Medal Finals. 

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Karen and Jen are on location in Raeford North Carolina covering the 43rd Annual NCHJA Horse Show! We've got interviews with a couple of the big winners from Thursday and Friday; Bridget Hickton and Ashley Lovegrove! Karen assesses the hospitality tent and roasts the winners who dodged the pod. 

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Jen and Karen--an equestrian professional and her former client--tackle the complex emotions and practical steps involved when a rider leaves one barn for another. In this candid conversation, Jen opens up about the ego blow and sense of loss that can accompany losing a client, sharing insights into the professional side of these transitions. Meanwhile, Karen delves into the feelings of anxiety and guilt that often arise when deciding to part ways with a trainer. This episode will resonate with anyone who has lost a client or faced the internal struggle of knowing its time to move on while...

In this compelling episode, Karen and Jen sit down with TikTok activist Anna Propp, known as theinsidetrack.eq, to delve into her mission of raising awareness about horse welfare through her sometimes controversial videos. Anna shares her journey into activism, explaining how she became passionate about highlighting the inhumane practices in the equine industry while advocating for more humane methods. 

Anna discusses the challenges she faces, including the backlash directed at the professionals she features in her videos. As the episode unfolds, Anna identifies how some other content creators and their methods are hurting the movement. 

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We don't think you'll find a more honest and informative discussion about what it takes to ride at the NCEA Division 1 level anywhere else!

Boo Major, three time NCEA National Championship winning coach of the University of South Carolina Gamecocks, SPILLS THE TEA about what coaches are looking for in riders' resumes, how lesser known riders can set themselves apart to earn a spot on an NCEA team, and FINALLY...the secret to getting your recruitment video noticed. If you or someone you know has NCEA aspirations...you're going to want to listen to this episode twice.<...

Karen and Jen discuss the importance of setting S.M.A.R.T. goals and why open and honest dialogue between trainers and clients is crucial to achieving these goals. Karen and Jen offer some unique insights into their own discussions regarding budgets, time commitments and when and why to pivot when it comes to goals. Whether you are the parent to an equestrian kid, you are a rider yourself or even if you are a trainer, this episode is a must listen. 

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We take a deep dive into barn norms when it comes to VIP Tents, tack room tailgate parties and dinners out at horse shows. Katherine Robinson, former barn mom in Jen's barn and current lifestyle influencer, drops by the studio to weigh in. We hit all the burning topics including, what happens when not everyone buys into the barn culture, who pays the trainers' bill when the whole barn goes out to dinner, how tailgating might be the key to making equestrian sports mainstream and a whole lot more! Subscribe to The Scope Podcast on www.patreon.com for...

In September 2024, North Carolina Trainer Beverly Burnette lost a dear friend. A few weeks later, born from the tragedy, Kevin and Alex McKirahan gained a passion project that could change the lives of many USHJA members. This week, their hard work finally paid off as the USHJA announced that AllyHealth is now offered to members at every level for a significantly reduced price. Kevin joined Karen and Jen to discuss the inspiration for the project and the details of what will now be available through the USHJA.

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Andrew Ellis, horse show manager, paddock master and former member of the USEF Hearing Panel, talks about the strengths and weaknesses of the USEF rule violation system, the responsibility we all share to protect our equine partners and the integrity of our sport and how social media whistle blowers fit into the equation.

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Dan Austin discusses a typical workout week for the equestrian athletes he coaches, how he got into coaching equestrians, his experience in the saddle and how he helps his team tap into the athlete mindset. Whether you have NCEA aspirations or are just looking for some tips to get fit for the show ring, you don't want to miss this episode!

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Hunter Kay confirmed that he is one of the top young professional riders on the East Coast by clenching the High Score Developing Rider Award during WCHR Week at the Winter Equestrian Festival this year. Hunter joins Karen and Jen in the studio to discuss his fitness routine, how barn workouts could help riders stay motivated and why swimming might be his next sport. 

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Hunter Kay confirmed that he is one of the top young professional riders on the East Coast by clenching the High Score Developing Rider Award during WCHR Week at the Winter Equestrian Festival this year. Hunter joins Karen and Jen in the studio to discuss his fitness routine, how barn workouts could help riders stay motivated and why swimming might be his next sport. 

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Kristen Ziesmer, MS, RD, CSSD, LD, specializes in helping athletes reach their full potential with proper nutrition. She joins Karen and Jen to discuss macronutrients, hydration, and what to eat on show days, even if you're one of those people who says "I can't eat before I ride." Still wanting more after this episode? Tune into Kristen's show, Female Sports Nutrition Podcast or find her at elitenutritionandperformance.com

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Licensed clinical psychologist and author, Rhea Merck has worked with student athletes for over a decade. She joins Karen and Jen in the studio to discuss the techniques she has used over the years to help equestrians reach their full potential in the show ring. 

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Karen and Jen discuss a new USEF Rule that requires Licensed Hunter/Equitation Judges to have shown or trained a competitor at 3' for a 'r' rating and 3'6" for a 'R' rating. Is this inline with the judging criteria of other subjective sports? What impact could this rule have on the accessibility and fan appeal of the sport? Listen to find out what we think!

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Our first guest to the studio does not disappoint! Maria Falgione is a former NCAA Equestrian, stage and screen actress and professional jockey. She helped found Synutra Equine, maker of Synchill, and the sister company, Alexsyn, which has reworked some of Synutra's best selling products into human supplements. 

A true equestrian athlete, Falgione credits her former strength and conditioning coach, Pat Moorer, with helping establish the habits that have made her successful in sports and business.  

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Okay okay, we know we're a little late on this one, but we just had to discuss it...a real sports beef between equestrians Karl Cook and McLain Ward, that got keyboards clattering for a few weeks this winter. This heated debate got the whole hunter/jumper community talking, and of course, we have opinions. 

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Karen and Jen discuss what you need to get started with the Scope Workout; from apparel to equipment, and even some items you can find around the barn that will work in a pinch. 

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Karen and Jen discuss how often to work out and what you should be working on. You'll learn more about the Scope Workouts, including how they can be used on their own or as a supplement to an existing workout plan. 

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Karen and Jen go over the basic accessories you'll need to work out with Scope--from apparel to equipment and some alternatives you might find around the barn in a pinch. 

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