The Tim & April Show
Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture. As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy. The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and com...
137. Identity After Deconstruction
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker explore their journeys of faith, deconstruction, and reconstruction, challenging traditional views of God, Jesus, and church. They share personal stories, critique religious doctrines, and envision a more inclusive spirituality rooted in love and justice.
Chapters
03:54 Discussion of Calvinism, Christian hedonism, and faith shifts
13:11 How beliefs about God and Jesus evolve through deconstruction
22:07 The social construction of God and redefining divine language
29:05 The significance of Hush Harbors and black spiritual spaces
33:05 The role of...
136. The Doug WIlson to Andrew Tate Pipeline
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker take over the Tim and April Show to dig into Christian nationalism and masculinity — starting with Doug Wilson's case for repealing women's suffrage and "household voting," then tracing how a hyper-masculinized, muscle-bound Jesus shows up from Mark Driscoll's early-2000s "UFC prize fighter Jesus" through pastor Martin Iscara's viral "Jesus had a six-pack" clip, and landing on Pete Hegseth's Pentagon testosterone-testing policy.
Chapters:
01:20 Weekend catch-up, Andrew Tate's arrest, and the capri-pants discourse 06:18 Setting up the topic: Pete Hegseth as the...135. We Took Over the Tim and April Show: Let's Talk About...
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker take over to explore the complex intersections of faith, politics, white supremacy, and how death and grief are politicized within evangelical communities. They challenge traditional narratives and call for honest reflection on the role of theology in perpetuating systemic injustice.
Chapters
02:09 The Role of White Supremacy in Evangelical Death Narratives
06:02 Theological Roots of Violence and White Supremacy
10:13 Deconstructing the Narrative of Principled Politicians
20:07 The Call for Prophetic Truth-Telling
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134. The Story of Nolan Wells Why Ignoring American history dooms us to Repeat it
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and guest host Malynda Hale discuss the recent case of Nolan Wells, the state of American politics, the influence of evangelical support for Trump, and the pervasive issues of racism and white supremacy in the country. They also explore the challenges faced by Black communities and the importance of confronting systemic injustice.
Chapters
02:09 Discussion of Nolan Wells case and recent developments
08:09 Evangelical support for Trump and its implications
20:10 The influence of social media and post-literate society on politics
39:48 The role of...
133. Erika Kirk is Indoctrinating Youth into Christian Nationalism
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically examines Erica Kirk's speech at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit, highlighting the ideological messages, rhetorical strategies, and underlying motives. We explore how faith, politics, and culture intersect in conservative youth movements and the implications for young people's worldview.
Chapters
02:00 Erica Kirk's background and role in TPUSA
11:57 Marriage, gender roles, and family values
20:12 The influence of Christian nationalism on youth
23:47 The concept of spiritual warfare and activism
32:04 Implications for young people's worldview
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132. World Cup and 2020 Election Lies: Trump is a Sore Loser
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy analyze recent political events, debunk election fraud claims, discuss military spending, and explore the influence of Christian nationalism. They aim to inform and empower listeners with factual insights and practical actions.
Chapters
04:39 Highlights from the World Cup and Trump’s Stage Presence
09:36 Trump’s False Claims About the 2020 Election and Foreign Interference
12:03 Fact-Checking Trump’s Election Fraud Allegations
26:57 Lack of Evidence for Election System Vulnerabilities
37:33 Analysis of Recent Defense Bills and Military Spending
54:21 The Role o...
131. The Christian Nationalist War on Education
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the history and current state of the war on education driven by Christian nationalism. They explore how religious influence is shaping curriculum, policies, and the broader cultural landscape in the United States.
Chapters
02:20 Historical roots of the war on education and key figures
07:33 Radical voices advocating for Judeo-Christian revolution
13:15 First Amendment rights and religious expression in schools
20:04 Texas law requiring Bible passages in curriculum
32:23 Legislation in Utah and the teaching of the Bible
<...130. You Cannot Follow Jesus and Support ICE. Full Stop
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into pressing social issues including recent acts of violence, the role of rhetoric in inciting hate, and the troubling actions of ICE. They also explore the intersection of faith, politics, and morality, emphasizing the need for accountability and compassion.
Chapters
01:49 Discussion of recent TV shows and personal favorites
07:54 The rise in hate crimes and Islamophobia
14:05 Recent shootings involving ICE and their consequences
29:45 Personal stories and the human impact of immigration policies
50:12 The political and moral...
129. Pastor Defends Performing "Execution" in front of Kids
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically examine a viral church video depicting a violent reenactment of spiritual warfare, and discuss its implications for Christian nationalism, indoctrination, and violence in religious settings.
Chapters
01:47 Description of the Violent Church Skit and Reactions
08:12 Analysis of Spiritual Warfare and Violence in Evangelicalism
20:09 Implications for Children and Indoctrination
40:07 Church Response and Defending Violence as Faithful
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128. Doug Wilson Reveals the Christian Nationalist War on Women
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy analyze a disturbing interview with Doug Wilson, exploring his extreme views on Christian nationalism, gender roles, and the future of America.
Chapters
15:42 Wilson's vision of a Christian theocracy
20:02 Views on LGBTQ+ rights and protections
33:11 Amendments and legal changes in Wilson's vision
55:58 Summary and call to awareness
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127. What is a Man? The Wannabe Soldiers of Christian Nationalism
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the the recent Christian men's conference 'Freedom Con 2026' in Washington State, exploring its themes of nationalism, masculinity, and faith. We critique the rhetoric, speakers, and underlying ideologies, highlighting concerns about Christian nationalism and its impact on society.
Chapters
05:27 Critique of Mark Driscoll and His Influence
10:08 The Freedom Con Video Analysis
20:31 The Persecution Complex of Christian Nationalism
41:03 Conclusion and Reflection
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126. Make Fairs Great Again
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the recent political and cultural events in the US, including Supreme Court rulings, the failed Trump 250th celebration, and the disturbing rise of Christian nationalism in church activities.
Chapters
05:52 America's 250th Anniversary and Trump's State Fair
11:51 The State Fair: A Reflection of National Values
15:06 The Role of Immigration in American Identity
21:02 The Dismal State Fair Experience
30:08 Understanding Vacation Bible School (VBS)
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125. Reacting to Wild Christian Nationalist "Truths" from Bro-vangelicals with Malynda
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and guest host Malynda Hale, explore the distortions and misrepresentations within certain evangelical circles, focusing on how fear, misinformation, and political agendas shape beliefs and behaviors. Malynda Hale joins to discuss faith, community, and the path to a more compassionate Christianity.
Chapters
06:13 The Role of Power and Oppression in Theology
13:58 Feminism and the Misunderstanding of Women's Roles
24:08 Personal Experiences with Purity Culture
27:23 The Role of Community in Healing
38:15 The Struggle for Acceptance and Inclusion
47:41 Building a Supportive...
124. Everything Trump Touches Turns to Sh*t
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the bizarre saga of the reflecting pool in Washington, DC, exploring political corruption, environmental mishaps, and the influence of Christian nationalism. They also discuss the rise of men's conferences and the absurdity of end-times predictions, offering sharp insights and critique.
Chapters
05:41 Main story: The reflecting pool controversy
09:24 Trump's blame game and misinformation
18:00 Environmental impact and contractor revelations
20:39 The mobster lookalike contractor and political ties
27:31 Vandalism charges and political hypocrisy
32:12 The...
123. Christian AI Content is Bizarre
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the misconceptions and realities of Pride festivals, the influence of AI-generated Christian content, and the importance of understanding cultural events through a nuanced lens.
Chapters
20:17 Exploring AI in Christian Media: Spiritual Warfare Videos
27:25 Theatrical Spiritual Warfare
35:37 The Impact of Charismatic Theology
48:08 Humor in Misunderstandings and Relationships
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122. One Nation Under Trump: The Birthday Bash No One Asked For
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy unpack recent events including the tragic police shooting of a child, the political spectacle at the White House, and the cultural implications of America's history and current politics.
Chapters
02:52 Commemorating Juneteenth: Understanding Its Significance
18:50 America's History of Violence and Systemic Racism
23:47 Trump's UFC Event: A Celebration of Classlessness
30:12 The Grift of Prediction Markets and Crypto
41:26 The Reflecting Pool Fiasco
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121. Josh Howerton Tries To Take Down James Talarico. Fails Miserably | Part 2
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy continue the conversation of critically analyzing a viral evangelical video by Josh Howerton, about James Talarico, exposing the manipulative use of biblical texts to support Christian nationalism and conservative political agendas.
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120. Turning Point Declares War on Feminism at Women's Summit
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond to clips from Turning Point's Women's Leadership Summit from this past weekend.
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We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic...
119. Josh Howerton Tries To Take Down James Talarico. Fails Miserably
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically analyze a viral evangelical video by Josh Howerton, exposing the manipulative use of biblical texts to support Christian nationalism and conservative political agendas. They dissect the theological inaccuracies, cultural implications, and the impact on faith communities, encouraging viewers to think critically about faith and politics.
Chapters
05:51 The Political Landscape in Texas
23:55 The Role of Family, Church, and State
34:03 The Role of Voters in Governance
51:46 The Reality of Trans Healthcare
01:02:31 The Impact of Rhetoric on...
118. MAGA Christians Meltdown Over Pride Month
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the cultural and political reactions to Pride Month among evangelical Christians, dissecting the rhetoric, protests, and theological debates surrounding LGBTQ+ issues. They also share personal stories, critique anti-LGBTQ+ activism, and discuss the importance of empathy and understanding in faith communities.
Chapters
05:14 Evangelical Reactions to Pride Month
09:55 Protests and Misunderstandings
20:03 The Nuclear Family Debate
37:16 The Impact of Personal Connections on Views
40:21 Empathy and Understanding in Changing Perspectives
52:59 Internalized Homophobia and Personal Struggles<...
117. The Legal Battle Against Christian Nationalism
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy are joined by constitutional attorney and author Andrew Seidel to talk about the legal battle of fighting Christian nationalism through the court system.
Americans United: https://www.au.org/
Andrew's book: https://a.co/d/01sYKAdf
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116. Trump is the UFC Court Jester
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore a wide range of current political issues, including immigration protests, the White House UFC fight, government spending, and political scandals. The hosts analyze the implications of these events and critique the current state of American politics and culture.
Chapters
04:26 Immigration Crisis and Protests in New Jersey
09:06 UFC Fight on the White House Lawn
23:07 The Harambe Memorial and Internet Culture
30:37 Ken Paxton's Political Landscape in Texas
48:20 The Nature of God and Gender
54:56 Corruption...
115. What conservatives get wrong about deconstruction and progressive Christianity | Part 2
In this Part 2 episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy continue to analyze Alisa Childers' views on progressive Christianity, exploring theological differences, political implications, and the impact on LGBTQ+ communities.
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114. Dangerously Weird: The Christian Nationalism at Rededicate 250
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the shenanigans at Rededicate 250, the tragic shooting at a San Diego mosque, and more.
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113. The TRUTH About Abortion (It's not what you think)
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy are joined by Dr. Deanna to discusses the complexities of abortion, medical procedures involved, legal landscape, and the impact of legislation on women's health, providing nuanced insights beyond common narratives.
Chapters
03:03 Understanding Abortion: Definitions and Misconceptions
08:46 The Emotional and Ethical Dimensions of Abortion
14:59 Personal Stories and Experiences with Abortion
21:03 Conclusion: Navigating the Complexities of Abortion
36:07 The Impact of Abortion Bans on Maternal Health
54:20 The Role of Medical Professionals in Abortion Legislation
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112. The MAGA War on Black Voters Explained
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy are joined by Jemar Tisby to unpack the recent dismantling of voting rights protections, the history of racial disenfranchisement in the US, and the urgent need for activism. They explore the implications of Supreme Court rulings, gerrymandering, and the ongoing civil rights movement.
Jemar's Substack | Jemartisby.substack.com
Chapters
03:04 The Importance of Voting Rights
09:06 Historical Context of Voting Rights
11:58 Supreme Court Rulings and Their Impact
18:01 Activism and the Role of Voter Turnout
45:12 Activating...
111. What conservatives get wrong about deconstruction and progressive Christianity | Part 1
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically analyze Alisa Childers' views on progressive Christianity, exploring theological differences, political implications, and the impact on LGBTQ+ communities. They challenge fundamentalist narratives and advocate for a more compassionate, historically informed understanding of faith.
Chapters
02:14 Tim's critique of Alisa Childers' views
07:18 Understanding the core of progressive Christianity
16:38 The triangle of theology, ethics, and politics
32:37 Sin, redemption, and social justice
42:24 Misconceptions about biblical views on sexuality
55:38 Christian nationalism and social justice
01:06:25 The...
110. The Mega Church to MAGA Pipeline
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy look back on CN clips from mega pastors: Driscoll, Howerton, Schott, Laurie etc ... I think we do ballroom but also Greg Laurie to talk about the connection between maga and coverup culture.
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109. The Epstein of the Church World: Lawyers Detail Horrifying Allegations Around Harvest Church Scandal
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the serious case involving allegations of child abuse linked to Greg Laurie's Harvest Church, highlighting issues of accountability, church culture, and justice. Lawyers Anne Oliverius and Jeff McAllister discuss the details of the lawsuit, the history of abuse, and the importance of public awareness and justice for victims.
Chapters
03:03 The Case Against Harvest Church
06:08 Background on Greg Laurie and Harvest Church
11:55 The Investigation and Discovery of Abuse
15:06 Harvest Church's Response and Cover-Up
18:01 The Impact...
108. Trump's got Ballrooms
In today's episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the recent White House Correspondents' Dinner shooting attempt, Erica Kirk's controversial statements, and the rise of conspiracy theories. This episode offers a deep dive into the intersection of faith, politics, and media manipulation.
Chapters
16:15 Security Concerns and Suspicious Circumstances of the Shooting
22:25 Political Violence and the Role of Leadership
33:50 The White House Ballroom and Funding Controversies
49:30 Russell Brand’s Conversion and Allegations
01:18:37 Final Reflections on Media, Faith, and Politics
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107. MAGA's Obsession with James Talarico | Love Thy Neighbor... but not like that
In this Part 2 Episode, our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond respond a video of Eric Metaxes and Megan Basham discuss and dismiss James Talarico as a fake Christian.
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106. Defend or Deny: MAGA Christians Starting to Split on Trump
This week April Ajoy and guest host Malynda Hale discuss the popular excuse that Donald Trump is still a baby Christian, Tucker Carlson's Trump apology, RFK Jr's comments about DEI, and more.
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105. MAGA Christian Obsession with James Talarico
Tim and April respond a video of Eric Metaxes and Megan Basham discuss and dismiss James Talarico as a fake Christian.
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104. When Trump Grows Up He Wants to be a Doctor, Pope, and... Jesus?
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the unsettling rise of Christian nationalism, where Donald Trump is shockingly elevated to messiah status through memes and AI-generated images. They delve into the dangerous theology and political idolatry that intertwines faith with power, challenging the integrity of Christian teachings.
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103. Staying Sane in an Unhinged World
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy explore the current political and social chaos in America, the role of faith and hypocrisy among evangelicals, and the mental health toll of engaging with heavy topics. They also share personal stories of faith, deconstruction, and hope for a better future.
Chapters
08:48 The Dilemma of Evangelical Support for Trump
12:06 Performative Christianity and Political Justifications
15:00 The Absurdity of Political Comparisons
20:50 The Complexity of Abortion and Political Identity
24:10 The Complexity of Abortion Politics
29:18 The Impact...
102. Trump Goes Nuclear. It's Time to Invoke the 25th amendment.
Trump Always Chickens Out (Thank God). This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss Donald Trump's insane Easter message, the Pentagon threatening the Pope, and more!
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101. Franklin Graham's CPAC Speech Shows the Delusion of Christian Nationalism
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond to Franklin Graham's recent speeches at CPAC, analyzing his political and religious rhetoric. They explore themes of Christian nationalism, political hypocrisy, and the true gospel message, providing critical insights into the intersection of faith and politics.
Chapters
01:17 Franklin Graham: A Controversial Figure
03:08 Hypocrisy in Political Support
10:40 The Impact of War on Families
12:59 Christian Nationalism and Political Ideology
15:44 The Role of Trump in Religious Freedom
27:03 The War on Christmas Narrative
40:56 Confronting...
100. Kristi Noem's Career Balloons into Chaos
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss Kristi Noem's husband, Jaden Ivey, and the Christian persecution complex, SCOTUS blocks a ban on conversion therapy in Colorado, and more!
Chapters
01:57 April Updates and New Evangelicals Courses
03:46 Kristi Noem's Husband Controversy
15:48 Cultural Norms and Personal Identity
19:55 Political Spending and Accountability
27:58 Reflections on Current Events and Personal Feelings
35:16 Christian Nationalism and Hypocrisy
49:20 Blasphemy and the Misuse of Jesus' Teachings
01:00:33 Hope for the Future Against Christian Nationalism
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99. Debunking MAGA Claim that Conservative + Church = Best Mental Health
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss a graph being shared online by MAGA Christians that claims Conservatives who go to church are the least likely to be diagnosed with a mental health disorder. They discuss why this is and why MAGA using this graph as a way to "own the libs" is misleading at best.
Chapters
10:56 Government Shutdown and Its Impact on TSA
31:43 Voter Suppression Tactics and Historical Context
43:16 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism
47:55 The Future of Republican Politics
52:31 The...
98. Long Lines Lead to Long Trump Rants: Airports, ICE & High Gas Prices
This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy discuss the chaos of the current political landscape, including the government shutdown, ICE funding, Christian nationalism, and the influence of Christian extremism in politics. It also features humorous and critical insights into recent AI Christian videos and the state of American politics.
Chapters
10:56 Government Shutdown and Its Impact on TSA
31:43 Voter Suppression Tactics and Historical Context
37:09 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications
43:16 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism
45:37 Political Compromise and Its Consequences
47:55 The Future...
