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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Scott Berry is joined by Jenny Devenport and Kaspar Rufibach of Merck Group, co-authors of the EFSPI Statistical Methodology Leaders paper "Statistical Methodology Groups in the Pharmaceutical Industry," and May Mo of Amgen, a co-author of the commentary on the paper from the Statistical Innovation Community, an ASA Biopharmaceutical working group. The guests describe methodology groups within a pharmaceutical company as a strategic investment, and innovation as the product of invention and commercialization, where publication, regulatory dialogue, and validated software ("statistical engineering") turn new methods into common practice. They discuss why new me...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry shares the framework he presented at a CSRC regulatory science hackathon on digital twins and synthetic controls in cardiovascular clinical trials. He separates three kinds of models that are often given the same name: population-level statistical models (a historical control rate), patient-level statistical models (propensity matching, Cox models, hot-deck imputation, and black-box machine learning predictions), and system-level digital twins of human biology. Drawing on ARPA-H's CIRCLE program for ICU immune modulation, the Framingham risk model, the EMA-qualified use of AI-generated prognostic scores as covariates, and Novartis's recent Lp(a) ou...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry recounts a presentation he gave to the Speak Foundation, a patient organization focused on limb-girdle muscular dystrophy and makes the case for master protocols directly to the stakeholder trials exist to serve. Opening with the deliberately absurd premise of a sports league that constructs a four-billion-dollar stadium for every single game and demolishes it at the final whistle, Scott reframes the conventional one-off trial as a two-year construction project dismantled the moment the contest ends. The episode distinguishes platform trials and basket trials as standing "arenas," explains the modular ro...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry talks with Dr. Alun Bedding, a professional certified coach and statistician who spent decades in pharmaceutical statistics, including as global head of statistical methods, collaboration, and outreach at Roche, before founding his own coaching and consulting practice. The conversation traces Alun's path from statistician to coach and unpacks what coaching is: a forward-facing partnership built on exploring a client's own thinking, not on advice, mentoring, or therapy. Alun and Scott draw a direct line between good coaching and good statistical consulting as both begin by questioning the stated goal ra...

In this episode of “In the Interim…,” Dr. Scott Berry talks with Dr. Roger Lewis, Dr. Anna McGlothlin, and Dr. Nick Berry — all co-authors on the CHIPS trial results recently published in JAMA (Spinella et al., August 2026) — about the design, implementation, and results. The conversation covers why room-temperature platelets, which can be stored only five to seven days, leave rural hospitals, low-volume centers, and military and disaster settings without a reliable supply, and how a Bayesian adaptive design was used to find the maximum safe cold-storage duration rather than testing a single fixed duration. Roger, Anna, and Nick walk through th...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines three recent health-research headlines through a statistician's lens: an Adventist Health Study-2 analysis claiming eggs reduce Alzheimer's risk, an Emory University trial on high-dose vitamin D and cognition (Zhao et al.), and a British Medical Journal study led by Dr. Daniel Danishvar (Harvard, Boston University) reporting that 25 to 97 percent of deceased NFL players showed evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). After flagging multiplicity and small-sample issues in the first two studies, Scott spends most of the episode on the CTE study's central flaw: because CTE can only be di...

In this episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry dissects prevailing concepts of “clinically meaningful difference” in clinical trials focusing on progressive diseases. Through detailed examples from pancreatic cancer (Ben Sasse, Revolution Medicines), emphysema (Elevair), Alzheimer’s disease (lecanemab), and IVF, Scott challenges the adequacy of the population-mean of a continuous outcome in reflecting true patient benefit. The episode discusses inconsistent usage and interpretation of acronyms such as MCID, CSD, and Target Product Profile (TPP). Dr. Berry advises trialists to resist interpreting the mean difference using patient-level minimal effects, and adopt responder analyses and cumulative probability approaches to enhanc...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Don Berry provides a detailed account of co-chairing the 1997 NIH consensus development conference on mammography for women in their 40s. His conversation with Dr. Scott Berry covers the statistical and clinical complexities of breast cancer screening, addressing lead time and length bias, trial design limitations. Don discusses the panel’s finding, based on randomized trials and meta-analysis, that the average benefit of screening women in their 40s is modest (an estimated 1.4-day average life extension and 18% hazard reduction). The panel recommended individualized decision-making rather than universal screening. The episode follows the reac...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry speaks with Dr. Srinivas Murthy, Dr. Thomas Hills, and Dr. Lindsay Berry about the REMAP-CAP trial results on oseltamivir in critically ill influenza patients. The trial used a Bayesian covariate-adjusted platform design and found oseltamivir was not effective at reducing 90-day mortality with a “98% and 99% probability of harm in 90-day mortality” compared to control. Covariate adjustment addressed baseline and site variation. Subgroup analyses showed greater harm in patients with higher illness severity. Sensitivity analyses using alternative neutral, optimistic, and pessimistic priors produced important scientific exploration of the results. No eviden...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry leads a comprehensive discussion of the ICECAP trial results with four Principal Investigators: Dr. Will Meurer (Professor, Emergency Medicine and Neurology, University of Michigan; consultant to Berry Consultants), Dr. Robert Silbergleit (Professor, Emergency Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School), Dr. Romer Geocadin (Professor, Neurology, Neurosurgery, and Anesthesiology and Critical Care Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine), and Dr. Sharon Yeatts (Professor of Biostatistics, Public Health Sciences, Medical University of South Carolina). The panel dissects the ICECAP trial’s multi-arm Bayesian adaptive design, response-adaptive randomization, and population-level approach to cool...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Elizabeth Lorenzi systematically examine the analytic pitfalls in recent acute ischemic stroke trials, especially the implications of violating the proportional odds assumption on the modified Rankin Scale. The discussion draws on the DISCOUNT, INSTANT, ESCAPE-MeVo, and ORIENTAL-MeVo trials, spotlighting frequent reactive shifts to proportional odds violations. Scott and Liz detail how such approaches obscure clinically relevant heterogeneity and react by creating analysis methods that obscure the clinical relevance of a violation of proportional odds. The episode underscores the necessity for trial designs that explicitly address heterogeneity of tr...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry challenges the widely held belief that any interim look at trial data obligates an alpha adjustment. By constructing a two-by-two matrix: interim data (positive/negative) and adaptive action (increase/decrease sample size), Scott demonstrates that the need for statistical correction depends on precisely what actions are prespecified. He emphasizes that the need for adjustment depends on the action and the data. Technical scenarios examined include group sequential designs, “promising zone” sample size re-estimation (citing the formal results of Mehta and Pocock), and response adaptive randomization. Scott stresses that clear prespe...

In this episode of "In the Interim…," Dr. Scott Berry interviews Tim Berry, co-founder of Blend360, detailing a career that demonstrates the practical application of statistical and analytical methods within large-scale business environments. Tim outlines his quick shift from earning a master’s at the University of Minnesota to industry positions, starting at AT&T Bell Laboratories, where he built and tested retention models on millions of consumer records. He recounts his time at Rapp Collins, where analytics had limited organizational impact, before joining Merkle and transforming analytics into a key business component through growing a team from two to o...

In this episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry investigates the practical meaning of fairness by connecting a controversial World Cup soccer ruling to foundational questions in clinical trial statistics. Scott scrutinizes FIFA’s unusual reversal of a red card suspension for US striker Folarin Balogun, referencing reports of US presidential influence, and draws explicit parallels between the enforcement of rules in international sport and the necessity for rigorously defined procedures in science. He references how systems thrive, or fail, on clear, consistently applied standards. Using Sherlock Holmes’ “Silver Blaze” and Abraham Wald’s WWII aircraft analysis, Scott revisits c...

On the latest episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele deliver a focused, technical analysis of statistical bias when stopping trials early. This episode clarifies the definition of bias, detailed within the context of interim analyses, emphasizing the empirical consequences of different stopping rules. The discussion addresses common misconceptions around interpretation as well as including the mathematical rationale for averaging across all trial outcomes, and the error of restricting bias estimates to only successful (early-stopped) trials. The hosts present a detailed critique of Bassler et al. (JAMA 2010), highlighting methodological flaws and misinterpretations of comparisons...

On the latest episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry provides an empirical examination of two recent JAMA trials: TRACK (low-dose rivaroxaban in advanced kidney disease) and VICTORY (IV vitamin C in severe burn injury). The TRACK trial lacked any pre-specified futility criteria, with a DSMB-initiated stop based on conditional power calculations. Scott argues that conditional power, especially in this interim context, is a poor, misleading tool—contrasting it against a Bayesian predictive probability calculation that produced a much lower and more realistic estimate of success. In VICTORY, a pre-specified risk ratio threshold for futility was incorporated, with simu...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele examine response-adaptive randomization (RAR) in clinical trials, dissecting its statistical rationale, common criticisms, and implementation challenges. Drawing on extensive experience with trials such as BAN2401 (lecanemab), ICECAP, dulaglutide seamless Phase 2/3, I-SPY2, REMAP-CAP, PROSPECT, and the historical ECMO trial, they discuss the scientific advantages and disadvantages and ethical impact. RAR reallocates patient assignments during interim analyses to direct more patients to better-performing arms, but this can reduce power in two-arm trials, introduce complexity from temporal trends, and create operational complexity. The ECMO trial and "play-the-winner" approaches ar...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry explores the origins of REMAP-CAP with Prof. Steve Webb, former chair of the REMAP-CAP International Trial Steering Committee. This episode examines how pandemic preparedness efforts after 2009 H1N1 shaped the design of an international, adaptive platform trial to be able to respond rapidly to new infectious threats. Steve and Scott explain the sequence of strategy meetings, the role of the PREPARE consortium in securing EU funding and subsequent federation across Australia and Canada. The discussion details REMAP-CAP’s technical foundations: a modular master protocol, domain architecture, Bayesian adaptive methods, and...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry explores the challenge of protracted endpoint timelines in adaptive clinical trials and the statistical strategies used to increase the rate of actionable information gain. Drawing on detailed case studies from breast cancer (I-SPY 2), Alzheimer’s disease (BAN 2401), diabetes (AWARD-5/Trulicity), and cardiac arrest, Scott addresses the technical demands of longitudinal modeling and interim data imputation for accelerating learning. The discussion prioritizes a critical, empirical perspective of demonstrating how carefully constructed statistical models, simulation, and Bayesian methods can convert interim patient data into more robust estimates of delayed outcomes and supp...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry is joined by Dr. Will Meurer, professor of Emergency Medicine and Neurology at the University of Michigan, for an in-depth discussion of the ICECAP trial’s adaptive Bayesian design. The discussion breaks down the scientific rationale for hypothermia after cardiac arrest, critiques legacy studies, and explores the justification for including both shockable and non-shockable rhythm types. The episode provides a detailed account of ICECAP’s methodological strategies: a weighted mRS primary endpoint, Bayesian adaptive trial structure, response-adaptive randomization (governed by strict allocation guardrails), a unique Bayesian model for duration-response, and fu...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry details the design, execution, and results of the multi-platform randomized clinical trial (mpRCT) pioneered during the COVID-19 pandemic. He describes how REMAP-CAP, ATTACC, and ACTIV-4a—each developed independently—pooled data prospectively for joint analysis to address therapeutic anticoagulation in hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Scott outlines the operational rigor required to harmonize endpoints, establish monthly adaptive analyses, and stratify patients by disease severity and D-dimer level. He examines the unified Bayesian hierarchical modeling approach, dynamic borrowing across strata, and the process for simultaneous DSMB reviews coordinated across all platforms. The mpRCT...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines the analytical challenges of comparing performance across eras in both sports and clinical research. Drawing from statistically robust family debates and published research, Scott details how overlapping competitors—such as athletes who played with both Babe Ruth, played with the next generation, who played with …  all the way to playing with Aaron Judge—enable the estimation of temporal effects and allow for objective comparisons between generations. He translates this approach directly into platform clinical trials, demonstrating how overlapping trial arms or shared control groups make it possible to quantify...

In the 60th episode of “In the Interim…”, Dr. Scott Berry, Dr. Nick Berry, and Dr. Joe Marion discuss how Berry Consultants uses AI in clinical trial design and software development. The conversation addresses current applications, limitations, implications for productivity, and the ongoing need for human expertise in clinical trial design. The team examines both promising use cases and the risks associated with security, compliance, and AI-generated statistical work.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Nick Berry investigate how futility in clinical trials and stopping rules in sports illuminate very similar decision problems, albeit with very different consequences. Drawing from baseball’s 10-run rule, tournament cuts in golf, the discussion confronts traditional and Bayesian strategies for interim decisions. The episode explains why simulation, not historical trial review, provides the empirical backbone for futility boundaries in clinical trials, and details the mechanics and consequences of aggressive stopping criteria. Using the Biogen aducanumab Alzheimer’s trials, the conversation exposes how a futility rule based on 20...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", host Dr. Scott Berry undertakes a detailed, methodical critique of ICH-E20 draft guidance language as applied to adaptive clinical trial design. Focusing on an innocuous but corruptible paragraph in Section 3.1, Scott scrutinizes the logic behind regulatory reluctance to appreciate multiple or complex adaptations in confirmatory trials. Drawing on extensive experience, he highlights how such restrictive interpretations do not reflect practical development realities, instead setting up “false choices” where alternative designs desired by regulators are infeasible. Through operational scenarios—including the SEPSIS-ACT trial, an enrichment design, and sample size re-estimation examples—Scott illustrates the empiri...

In this episode of "In the Interim…" Dr. Scott Berry is joined by Professors Victoria Cornelius, Danny McAuley, and Anthony Gordon, for a technical review of the PANTHER trial—an international, Phase 2 adaptive platform evaluating pharmacologic interventions for ARDS. The trial is open-label and does not employ blinding, as discussed in the episode. The primary endpoint is 28-day organ support-free days (death as -1, survivors 0–28 days), analyzed with a Bayesian proportional odds model. PANTHER uses  stratification by hyper- and hypoinflammatory subphenotypes, with fixed, equal randomization within each stratum. Analyses for treatments are separated by stratum, reflecting the potential of differe...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry connects with Dr. Byron Gajewski, professor of biostatistics and data science at the University of Kansas Medical Center (KUMC), for a detailed discussion on the design, simulation, and operational realities of Bayesian adaptive clinical trials in academic environments. Gajewski discusses his academic background, training at Texas A&M, and progressive adoption of Bayesian principles based on direct experiential advantages in complex data settings. The conversation highlights KUMC’s Fixed and Adaptive Clinical Trial Simulator Working Group, which utilizes FACTS for faculty, staff, and student collaboration, enabling practical simulation, trial prot...

In this episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry hosts Dr. Stephen Senn, award-winning statistician and author, for a discussion on advanced challenges in adaptive and platform trial methodology. Senn draws on experience in academic, pharmaceutical, and regulatory settings to address the recent draft guidance on Bayesian statistics from the FDA and multiple controversies in clinical trial design.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry is joined by statisticians Dr. Amy Crawford, Dr. Cora Allen-Savietta, and Dr. Jessica Overbey for a technical deep dive into hierarchical composite endpoints and the win ratio in clinical trial design. The group addresses clinical and statistical justifications for layered endpoint structures, demonstrates the mechanics of pairwise win ratio analysis, and explores operational and interpretive consequences in both conventional and adaptive trials. The panel scrutinizes analytic limitations, regulatory concerns, and emerging modeling strategies—all grounded in real-world trial examples.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry interviews Professors Steven Tong and Josh Davis about the SNAP platform trial for Staphylococcus aureus bacteremia. The discussion covers SNAP’s rationale, large-scale adaptive design, methodology, and operational execution at approximately 150 hospitals in 13 countries. Key statistical questions, domain results, pediatric-adult analysis, and global implementation strategy are explored in depth. Listeners will find clear examples of how adaptive platform trials can efficiently address clinically relevant questions in infectious disease, while highlighting the nuances of trial design, statistical thresholds, and network collaboration.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele examine Bayesian borrowing in Phase 3 clinical trials, focusing on statistical handling of prior information and real-world FDA interactions. The episode opens with an analogy, comparing prior probability in Bayesian analysis to interpreting a home pregnancy test, succinctly demonstrating the effect of prior knowledge on trial interpretation. The discussion addresses technical challenges—how borrowing inflates Type I errors and why this is addressed differently under Bayesian operating characteristics. Concrete examples include dynamic versus static borrowing approaches, and formal integration of prior evidence in regulatory submissions. Case stud...

In Episode 51 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry interviews writer, producer, and performer Shaun Cassidy to examine the practical elements of storytelling that matter in scientific and statistical communication. Cassidy draws on his experience in television, music, and live performance—including his role as writer and Executive Producer of New Amsterdam—to present clear parallels between audience engagement in show business and in clinical research. The conversation prioritizes improving narrative precision, emotional resonance, and authenticity when conveying complex topics to varied audiences.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Lindsay Berry investigate the statistical foundations and clinical implications of analyzing ordinal endpoints, drawing on experience from major stroke and COVID-19 trials. Discussion centers on the Modified Rankin Scale, DAWN, MR CLEAN, and REMAP-CAP, demonstrating that methods such as proportional odds, dichotomization, and utility weighting all impose explicit or implicit clinical weights on the outcome categories. The episode presents direct mathematical derivations, exposes the equivalence between proportional odds models and value-weighted analysis, and uses real trial data to explore how statistical and clinical perspectives on endpoint weighting ma...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry marks the podcast’s one-year anniversary, sharing listener metrics, watch data, and regional engagement. He then delivers a step-by-step analysis of the FDA meeting process, detailing the progression from initial sponsor meeting requests and question submission to briefing book preparation, feedback cycles, and in-person logistics for a Type C meeting at the White Oak facility. Drawing from more than 25 years of trial design and regulatory experience, Scott offers precise guidance on technical preparation, sponsor responsibilities, and common errors in sponsor-FDA dialog, emphasizing what works and what wastes time inside the...

Dr. Nathan O’Hara (University of Maryland), Dr. Gerard Slobogean (UC Irvine), and Dr. Sheila Sprague (McMaster University) describe the launch and design of the Musculoskeletal Adaptive Platform Trial (MAPT)—the first major adaptive platform trial in orthopaedic surgery. The discussion covers MAPT’s master protocol structure, patient-centered endpoint framework, and operational strategies for multinational implementation. Focus areas include the FASTER-HIP domain’s use of Bayesian modeling with a hierarchical clinical endpoint and the standards established for adaptation, data coordination, and future scalability. Listeners gain insight into a trial infrastructure designed to lower barriers for evidence generation and facilitate ongoing...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry speaks with Dr. Michael Harhay, Associate Professor at the University of Pennsylvania and Director of the Center for Clinical Trials Innovation. The conversation explores Dr. Harhay’s progression through neuroscience, philosophy, epidemiology, and statistics, examining how this academic path shapes his work in clinical trial methodology. They discuss the Center’s role in addressing unresolved methodological questions arising from pragmatic, health system-based trials, including challenges with cluster and factorial randomized designs. The episode focuses on statistical and conceptual issues in endpoint selection for critical care, such as the analysis of inf...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele deliver a quick reaction to the FDA’s draft guidance on Bayesian statistics for clinical trials of drugs and biologics. Their assessment addresses the structure, content, and impact of the document, emphasizing evidence-based requirements and guidance scope. The episode breaks down regulatory language, technical expectations, and workflow implications for clinical trial sponsors and statisticians.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry is joined by Dr. Tanya Simuni, Arthur C. Nielsen Jr. Professor of Neurology and Director of the Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders Center at Northwestern University, and Dr. Barbara Wendelberger, Senior Statistical Scientist at Berry Consultants. The conversation focuses on the Path to Prevention (P2P) platform trial—an international, multi-arm prevention study in Parkinson’s disease targeting participants defined by biological markers, specifically alpha-synuclein pathology, prior to clinical diagnosis. The discussion covers the PPMI cohort, trial operational and statistical structure, the rationale behind biomarker-driven inclusion, and the use of B...

In this episode of “In the Interim…,” host Dr. Scott Berry examines the challenge of communicating complex statistical concepts to non-statistical audiences. Drawing from firsthand experiences in agriculture, professional golf, and clinical development, as well as examples involving historical and scientific figures, Scott reflects on why technical rigor alone often fails to influence. The discussion focuses on the consequences of mismatched language, the importance of empathy, and the utility of simulation when bridging the gap between analysis and stakeholder understanding.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", host Dr. Scott Berry and frequent co-host Dr. Kert Viele, Senior Statistical Scientist at Berry Consultants, analyze the potential shift in FDA regulatory policy from requiring two independent trials to accepting a single trial as sufficient for “substantial evidence” in drug approvals. Reflecting on the statutory and regulatory definitions originating with the 1962 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and 21 CFR 314.126, they dissect current and emerging interpretations, referencing recent statements by Dr. Martin Makary and coverage described in a STAT article. The conversation focuses on the scientific and statistical foundations of the two-trial thresh...