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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry interviews Professors Steven Tong and Josh Davis about the SNAP platform trial for Staphylococcus aureus bacteremia. The discussion covers SNAP’s rationale, large-scale adaptive design, methodology, and operational execution at approximately 150 hospitals in 13 countries. Key statistical questions, domain results, pediatric-adult analysis, and global implementation strategy are explored in depth. Listeners will find clear examples of how adaptive platform trials can efficiently address clinically relevant questions in infectious disease, while highlighting the nuances of trial design, statistical thresholds, and network collaboration.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele examine Bayesian borrowing in Phase 3 clinical trials, focusing on statistical handling of prior information and real-world FDA interactions. The episode opens with an analogy, comparing prior probability in Bayesian analysis to interpreting a home pregnancy test, succinctly demonstrating the effect of prior knowledge on trial interpretation. The discussion addresses technical challenges—how borrowing inflates Type I errors and why this is addressed differently under Bayesian operating characteristics. Concrete examples include dynamic versus static borrowing approaches, and formal integration of prior evidence in regulatory submissions. Case stud...

In Episode 51 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry interviews writer, producer, and performer Shaun Cassidy to examine the practical elements of storytelling that matter in scientific and statistical communication. Cassidy draws on his experience in television, music, and live performance—including his role as writer and Executive Producer of New Amsterdam—to present clear parallels between audience engagement in show business and in clinical research. The conversation prioritizes improving narrative precision, emotional resonance, and authenticity when conveying complex topics to varied audiences.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Lindsay Berry investigate the statistical foundations and clinical implications of analyzing ordinal endpoints, drawing on experience from major stroke and COVID-19 trials. Discussion centers on the Modified Rankin Scale, DAWN, MR CLEAN, and REMAP-CAP, demonstrating that methods such as proportional odds, dichotomization, and utility weighting all impose explicit or implicit clinical weights on the outcome categories. The episode presents direct mathematical derivations, exposes the equivalence between proportional odds models and value-weighted analysis, and uses real trial data to explore how statistical and clinical perspectives on endpoint weighting ma...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry marks the podcast’s one-year anniversary, sharing listener metrics, watch data, and regional engagement. He then delivers a step-by-step analysis of the FDA meeting process, detailing the progression from initial sponsor meeting requests and question submission to briefing book preparation, feedback cycles, and in-person logistics for a Type C meeting at the White Oak facility. Drawing from more than 25 years of trial design and regulatory experience, Scott offers precise guidance on technical preparation, sponsor responsibilities, and common errors in sponsor-FDA dialog, emphasizing what works and what wastes time inside the...

Dr. Nathan O’Hara (University of Maryland), Dr. Gerard Slobogean (UC Irvine), and Dr. Sheila Sprague (McMaster University) describe the launch and design of the Musculoskeletal Adaptive Platform Trial (MAPT)—the first major adaptive platform trial in orthopaedic surgery. The discussion covers MAPT’s master protocol structure, patient-centered endpoint framework, and operational strategies for multinational implementation. Focus areas include the FASTER-HIP domain’s use of Bayesian modeling with a hierarchical clinical endpoint and the standards established for adaptation, data coordination, and future scalability. Listeners gain insight into a trial infrastructure designed to lower barriers for evidence generation and facilitate ongoing...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry speaks with Dr. Michael Harhay, Associate Professor at the University of Pennsylvania and Director of the Center for Clinical Trials Innovation. The conversation explores Dr. Harhay’s progression through neuroscience, philosophy, epidemiology, and statistics, examining how this academic path shapes his work in clinical trial methodology. They discuss the Center’s role in addressing unresolved methodological questions arising from pragmatic, health system-based trials, including challenges with cluster and factorial randomized designs. The episode focuses on statistical and conceptual issues in endpoint selection for critical care, such as the analysis of inf...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele deliver a quick reaction to the FDA’s draft guidance on Bayesian statistics for clinical trials of drugs and biologics. Their assessment addresses the structure, content, and impact of the document, emphasizing evidence-based requirements and guidance scope. The episode breaks down regulatory language, technical expectations, and workflow implications for clinical trial sponsors and statisticians.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry is joined by Dr. Tanya Simuni, Arthur C. Nielsen Jr. Professor of Neurology and Director of the Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders Center at Northwestern University, and Dr. Barbara Wendelberger, Senior Statistical Scientist at Berry Consultants. The conversation focuses on the Path to Prevention (P2P) platform trial—an international, multi-arm prevention study in Parkinson’s disease targeting participants defined by biological markers, specifically alpha-synuclein pathology, prior to clinical diagnosis. The discussion covers the PPMI cohort, trial operational and statistical structure, the rationale behind biomarker-driven inclusion, and the use of B...

In this episode of “In the Interim…,” host Dr. Scott Berry examines the challenge of communicating complex statistical concepts to non-statistical audiences. Drawing from firsthand experiences in agriculture, professional golf, and clinical development, as well as examples involving historical and scientific figures, Scott reflects on why technical rigor alone often fails to influence. The discussion focuses on the consequences of mismatched language, the importance of empathy, and the utility of simulation when bridging the gap between analysis and stakeholder understanding.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", host Dr. Scott Berry and frequent co-host Dr. Kert Viele, Senior Statistical Scientist at Berry Consultants, analyze the potential shift in FDA regulatory policy from requiring two independent trials to accepting a single trial as sufficient for “substantial evidence” in drug approvals. Reflecting on the statutory and regulatory definitions originating with the 1962 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and 21 CFR 314.126, they dissect current and emerging interpretations, referencing recent statements by Dr. Martin Makary and coverage described in a STAT article. The conversation focuses on the scientific and statistical foundations of the two-trial thresh...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Jenny Devenport, Global Head of Methods, Collaboration, and Outreach at Roche, joins Dr. Scott Berry for a detailed discussion on career evolution, statistical culture, and communication in the pharmaceutical industry. Dr. Devenport describes her transition from psychology in New Mexico to statistical leadership in Basel, emphasizing the formative role of early academic mentors and her experience working across the US and Europe. She outlines her current functions in methods development, internal collaboration, and industry outreach, highlighting active engagement with academic and regulatory communities. The episode scrutinizes differences in workplace culture, such as...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry delivers a metaphoric critique of single-question trial infrastructure through the sports arena analogy, illustrating the cost, patient burden, and data inefficiency of conventional clinical trials. He provides a methodical comparison of traditional trial models and the platform trial approach, clarifying distinctions between platform, basket, and master protocol structures. Through examples from HEALEY ALS, I-SPY 2, PALM (Ebola), REMAP-CAP, RECOVERY, EPAD, GBM AGILE, and Precision Promise, Scott outlines the measurable efficiencies of platform trials: shared control arms, flexible arm addition and removal, reduced placebo exposure, accelerated timelines, and improved statistical inferences. Th...

In episode 40 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines the statistical, operational, and behavioral challenges of using interim analyses as triggers for funding in adaptive and seamless Phase II/III clinical trials. The episode presents a typical hypothetical scenario for rare disease drug development, contrasting conventional two-stage development with a seamless design and highlighting efficiency gains in sample size, patient allocation, and trial duration. Scott details the construction of administrative (financial) interim analyses, underscoring their distinction from futility analyses and their role in funding decisions when complete funding is not secured upfront. He addresses FDA operational bias concerns, em...

In this episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry interviews Dr. Kaspar Rufibach, Co-Head of Advanced Biostatistical Sciences at Merck. The conversation tracks Rufibach’s evolution from academic training in actuarial and mathematical statistics through cancer research collaborations, postdoctoral work, and academic consulting, leading to applied roles in Roche and Merck. Discussion centers on methodological rigor, pragmatic approaches to assurance and predictive probability, and real-world experience in drug development. Rufibach examines the organizational integration of quantitative disciplines at Merck—incorporating pharmacology, real-world data, statistics, programming, and data science—while remaining candid on the role and boundaries of AI in cur...

In this episode of "In the Interim…" guest host Cooper Berry moderates a detailed discussion on the evolution and practice of Bayesian methodology in clinical trials with fellow family members Dr. Don Berry, Dr. Scott Berry, Dr. Lindsay Berry, and Dr. Nick Berry. The panel outlines the foundational principles of Bayesian decision-making in medical research, ethical debates informed by historical reports like the Belmont Report, and the shift in regulatory acceptance. Computational developments such as Markov Chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) are examined for their role in enabling applied Bayesian models. Panelists give practical accounts of implementing adaptive and platform tr...

In episode 37 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Jeff Saver, Director of the UCLA Comprehensive Stroke and Vascular Neurology Program, details his shift from behavioral neurology to clinical stroke research after early engagement with multicenter trials like TOAST. The discussion covers the biology of acute ischemic stroke, quantifying neuronal loss, and the scientific underpinnings of “time is brain.” Dr. Saver outlines the evolution of endovascular therapy, from early device challenges to current reperfusion success rates exceeding 85%. Key methodological issues in stroke trial analyses are presented, including debate over endpoint selection—dichotomous versus ordinal approaches and the limitations therein. Special focus is place...

In Episode 36 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Don Berry analyze the Phase II trial of Lecanemab (BAN2401) in Alzheimer’s disease, focusing on the application of adaptive Bayesian methods following persistent failures in Alzheimer’s drug development. The conversation covers the specific design features of five active arms, response adaptive randomization, and a longitudinal Bayesian model driving interim decisions, as well as direct operational and statistical challenges encountered during the trial. The hosts address regulatory proceedings, critique from "experts" regarding adaptive methods on noisy cognitive endpoints, and the direct alignment of the trial’s Bayesian 18-month e...

On this episode of “In the Interim…”, which is co-sponsored by the Journal of Statistics and Data Science Education, Dr. Scott Berry talks with Dr. Jim Albert, Professor Emeritus at Bowling Green State University, whose extensive work encompasses Bayesian statistics and computation, sports analytics, and decades of exemplary teaching. Dr. Albert shares insights on integrating sports into statistics education and discusses his transition from academic roots to consulting for the Houston Astros. This episode highlights the evolution of sports statistics—from manual data collection to sophisticated analytics—and critiques traditional metrics in favor of advanced systems. The dialogue explores career opp...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines the concept of “digital twins” in clinical trials. He details how simulation of clinical trials is a direct analog of digital twin methodology, allowing for the in-silico modeling of the physical trial conduct, enrollment, dropouts, and patient outcomes under varied assumptions. Scott discusses model-based patient prediction and highlights scenarios where prediction of counterfactual outcomes can increase efficiency, particularly in rare disease or limited-data settings. He provides a systematic comparison of Unlearn’s PROCOVA neural network approach with traditional covariate adjustment, noting that proprietary models must demonstrate clear improvement over sta...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry interviews Dr. Andrew Thomson, owner and lead consultant of Regnitio. Thomson discusses his academic progression from mathematics at Cambridge to a Master’s at Southampton and advanced study with Prof. Sylvia Richardson at Imperial College, followed by doctoral work in cluster randomized trials at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. He recounts the realities of regulatory roles, including contemplative study of data, working within multidisciplinary teams, and delivering regulatory assessments to senior committees. The episode contrasts EMA’s collaborative cross-country structure against the more centralized FDA process and ex...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele analyze how regulatory, editorial, and science community standards often impose additional, inconsistent requirements for novel methods in clinical trial design, rarely applied to standard approaches. Examples from oncology, enrichment trials, platform studies, and endpoint analysis illustrate how adaptive and Bayesian designs are frequently subject to higher scrutiny, shifting metrics, or distinct evidentiary demands. The episode covers technical and regulatory issues, such as the selective application of Type 1 error controls, evolving multiplicity guidance, and challenges in ethical reasoning with adaptive allocation. Scott and Kert frame the di...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines the mathematical foundations and efficiency claims of the promising zone design for adaptive sample size in clinical trials. Scott unpacks the conditional power thresholds that trigger sample size increases without the need to adjust alpha, as originally presented by Mehta & Pocock. He systematically demonstrates, via simulation, that the promising zone rarely provides meaningful efficiency gains over fixed designs and is consistently outperformed by group sequential designs that allocate alpha across multiple analyses. Using a driving-route analogy, Scott highlights the practical flaw in making pivotal trial decisions earlier than ne...

Episode 30 of “In the Interim…” features Dr. Janet Wittes, Fellow of the American Statistical Association, past president of the Society of Clinical Trials, and founder of Statistics Collaborative, in discussion with Dr. Scott Berry. Dr. Wittes details her progression from Radcliffe biochemistry to Harvard statistics, shaped by targeted mentorship and her family’s insistence on advanced scientific training. She describes teaching at Hunter College, her NIH/NHLBI tenure overseeing extensive DSMB work, and the launch of Statistics Collaborative 32 years ago, building the business with her children and their peers. The episode explores her consulting on clinical trial design for orphan a...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry chats with Frank Harrell, a professor of Biostatistics at Vanderbilt University and W.J. Dixon Award winner. Harrell describes his transition from frequentist to Bayesian clinical trial design, prompted by a decisive meeting with Dr. Don Berry, informed by David Spiegelhalter’s published work. The dialogue addresses persistent academic opposition to Bayesian methods, operational constraints in trial implementation, regulatory work at FDA, and technical Bayesian modeling details.

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In this episode of “In the Interim…”, Dr. Scott Berry interviews Dr. Derek Angus, Distinguished Professor and Chair of Critical Care Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh and Senior Editor at JAMA. The discussion addresses the decades-long controversy surrounding steroid use in community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) and sepsis. The episode delivers a chronological assessment of the evidence base—summarizing trial results from pivotal studies, including CAPE COD, REMAP-CAP, ADRENAL, and multiple French trials led by Dr. Djillali Annane. Dr. Angus analyzes why discrepancies persist in outcomes, clinical recommendations, and international guidelines, and underscores the challenge of heterogeneous treatment effects. The episode...

Dr. Scott Berry hosts this episode of "In the Interim…", opening with statistical analysis of elite athletes before focusing on the misunderstood role of clinical trial simulation. He distinguishes simulation as a predictive tool from its use as an in-silico process that enables trial design exploration, iteration, and optimization. Clinical trial simulation provides a mechanism for iterative comparison of multiple designs, driven by ongoing team feedback and evolving trial objectives. Scott stresses that rigid simulation plans are “not productive,” since the most effective designs typically emerge when stakeholders view real trial examples and suggest new design options in real time...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele review the ICH E20 draft guidance on adaptive clinical trial designs, offering a technical yet accessible breakdown for trial sponsors, practitioners, and those interested in clinical development. Drawing on their practical experience in creating and presenting adaptive trial designs to regulators, they discuss the document’s strengths, areas of consensus, and where cautionary or restrictive language appears. Listeners are guided through the evolving regulatory landscape, distinctions between Bayesian and frequentist approaches, and what new harmonization efforts mean for planning adaptive confirmatory trials. The episode conveys hand...

In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and NIH’s Dr. Michael Proschan conduct a detailed discussion from opposing viewpoints on response-adaptive randomization (RAR) in clinical trials. The discussion focuses on where they agree – on the positives and negatives of RAR, and where they disagree on its scientific use.

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In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry, Dr. Elizabeth Lorenzi, and Dr. Amy Crawford discuss the STEP platform trial’s statistical methodology for evaluating which acute stroke patients benefit and which do not from endovascular therapy (EVT). The discussion critiques the inadequacy of traditional clinical trials powered for a single population to show benefit, as the goal of the trial is to identify who benefits, not if the entire population has a net benefit. The team walks through the development and simulation of a Bayesian change point model, addressing heterogeneous treatment responses across the NIH Stroke Scal...

This episode of "In the Interim…" features Dr. Scott Berry, Dr. Kert Viele, and Dr. Melanie Quintana of Berry Consultants dissecting the technical and operational landscape of Bayesian statistics in clinical trial design. The episode discussed what is Bayesian statistics, the impact of informative and non-informative priors, and clarifies when and why Bayesian approaches surpass frequentist analyses—especially in adaptive, platform, and rare disease trial settings. The discussion directly challenges the misconception that Bayesian methods “lower the bar," presenting evidence that they often require broader data synthesis and can raise evidentiary standards.

Key regulatory developments at FDA and EM...

Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Kert Viele discuss the origins and implementation of the “time machine” modeling approach, beginning with sports analytics and progressing to adaptive platform clinical trials. The episode focuses on how techniques for comparing athletes across eras translate into methodology for platform trials.

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In this episode, Dr. Don Berry and Dr. Scott Berry provide an in-depth account of I-SPY 2, focusing on the trial’s use of the “time machine” methodology—a Bayesian solution allowing bridging across arms to inform ongoing analyses. The discussion details how predictive probabilities and adaptive randomization shaped pivotal decisions, including the handling of Pertuzumab’s approval and Neratinib’s subtype-specific performance. This episode also documents the technical and operational contributions of Laura Esserman, Anna Barker, Janet Woodcock, Meredith Buxton, and Ashish Sanil, clarifying the roles that enabled the platform’s success and broader impact on subsequent adaptive trials.

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In Episode 20 of Berry’s "In the Interim..." Podcast, The Legend of I-SPY 2 - Part A, Dr. Don Berry and Dr. Scott Berry discuss the origins and design of the I-SPY trials. Their conversation explains the inefficiency of traditional adjuvant breast cancer trials and details the shift to the neoadjuvant approach, where tumor response can be observed prior to surgery. 

I-SPY 1 served as a proof-of-concept using MRI for probabilistic prediction of pathologic complete response (pCR). I-SPY 2 represents a major advancement in clinical trial science, introducing a multi-arm bandit methodology, integration of biomarker-driven subtypes and signatures, and a str...

This episode of "In the Interim..." features an in-depth discussion of the StrokeNet Thrombectomy Endovascular Platform (STEP), a multi-domain, multi-factorial, adaptive platform trial for acute stroke, anchored in the NIH StrokeNet network. Guests Dr. Eva Mistry (University of Cincinnati) and Dr. Jordan Elm (Medical University of South Carolina) join us to explain how STEP enables simultaneous investigation of multiple treatment strategies in patients with acute ischemic stroke. The conversation details the use of a master protocol, the integration of industry partners through the Other Transactional Authority (OTA) NIH mechanism, and innovative statistical designs to efficiently identify improved treatment strategies.<...

Dr. Scott Berry applies a statistician’s review of a random trial result published in JAMA – the FAIR-HF2 clinical trial.  Interrogating the frequentist paradigm and the focus on the binary outcome of the primary hypothesis test. He scrutinizes the Hochberg multiplicity adjustment, challenges the prevailing disregard for accumulated scientific evidence, and contrasts the limitations of black/white view of clinical trial of over 1000 patients and 6 years of enrollment. A contrast is made to what a potential Bayesian approach, grounded in practical trial interpretation and evidence integration would look like. The episode argues how current norms, created by dogmatic statistical views...

Scott Berry convenes co-authors Kert Viele, Joe Marion, and Lindsay Berry to discuss the statistical and developmental nuances of inferentially seamless phase 2/3 clinical trial designs. The group dissects the simple method for distributing alpha when including stage 1 data, whether it is a good idea to distribute alpha, and the optimal allocation of sample size when Stage 1 data are carried forward, all referencing their recently published work in Pharmaceutical Statistics.

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In this solo episode of "In the Interim...", Scott Berry, President and Senior Statistical Scientist at Berry Consultants, addresses deep-rooted confusion in the field of adaptive clinical trial design surrounding the concept of “spending alpha.” Drawing on practical experience and rigorous statistical foundations, Berry addresses the prevailing language and myths that conflate interim analysis with loss of type I error. He clarifies that, with planned and transparent allocation of alpha, interim analyses enable more power with more efficient design, and robust clinical trials—without sacrificing statistical validity. This is a precise and fact-driven examination for those demanding technical clarity, not ma...

Scott Berry, Founder of Berry Consultants, interviews Professor Craig Ritchie—specialist in brain health and neurodegenerative diseases, Chief Investigator of EPAD (European Prevention of Alzheimer Dementia), and CEO of Scottish Brain Sciences—for a broad discussion of platform trial methodology in Alzheimer’s Disease research as well as looking towards the future of drug development. The conversation dissects the origins and ambitions of the EPAD initiative, the conception and scientific function of the readiness cohort, and the pragmatic obstacles to deploying innovative trial models within rigid institutional frameworks. Professor Ritchie details why the EPAD platform trial failed to initiate any th...

In this engaging episode of "In the Interim...", host Dr. Scott Berry is joined by Dr. Nick Berry to explore the intriguing statistical parallels between sports and drug development, focusing on the concept of "regression-to-the-mean." Presenting examples that seem clear in sports, they discuss how these insights can illuminate the challenges faced in clinical trials and scientific inferences in medical decision making. Whether you're a statistician, drug developer, or sports enthusiast, this episode offers valuable perspectives on data interpretation and statistical phenomena.

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• Discussion on how lessons from sports can benefit drug developers, emphasizing the co...