So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People
Welcome to So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People where we explore the behind-the-scenes of work, law, life, and everything in between. We’re your hosts, business development and legal marketing coaches Jennifer Ramsey and Megan Senese, and we’re here to showcase the human side of the legal world, from marketing and consulting to the very real challenges of balancing ambitious careers with being human. This isn’t your typical, dry legal show. Instead, So Much To Say is a human-centered leadership, marketing, and culture podcast through the lens of law. We bring you real stories, candid conver...
What Are You Really Building? (Minis with Megan)
As we celebrate 50 episodes of So Much To Say, we're reflecting on a question that has quietly shaped many of our conversations surrounding the legal industry:
What are you really building? Often it goes beyond just a book of business. A successful law practice that helps and connects people?A stronger reputation that adds purpose? More autonomy?More freedom?In this special mini episode, Megan explores why milestones matter, the surprising power of conversation, and the question many professionals never stop long enough to ask themselves:
If you keep building exactly what you're building today, whe...
The Upside of Both: Lessons from In-House and Private Practice (with Global Franchise Lawyer, Brittany Johnson)
“The goal was never to be the department of ‘no’. The goal was to find a way for the business to proceed while identifying the risks that you are willing to take and those that you are not.” - Brittany Johnson
What do in-house lawyers actually want from outside counsel?
After spending more than a decade inside one of the most recognizable brands in the world, Brittany Johnson has a surprisingly clear, and uncomplicated, answer.
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down...
How You Feel About Business Development Matters (Minis with Megan)
What if the biggest thing holding you back from business development isn’t your strategy, it’s how you think and feel about it?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan, we explore why so many lawyers immediately answer "I'm bad at business development" when asked how they feel about it. By shifting the conversation from performance to emotion, Megan shares a more useful way to identify what’s really getting in the way, and how small, consistent actions can help you build confidence over time.
Who th...
Building Equity Through IP Education (with Valérie Cambronne, Founder of LegallyBlack)
“To me, equity is the ability for everybody to make the same mistakes with the same level of understanding.” - Valérie Cambronne
What if intellectual property education wasn’t reserved for corporations, elite institutions, or people who already knew how the system worked?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Valérie Cambronne, IP attorney, founder of LegallyBlack, and someone deeply committed to closing the IP literacy gap in underrepresented communities.
What started as a conversation between two law scho...
Hoping to Be Discovered Is Not a Business Development Strategy (Minis with Megan)
In case no one else tells you, it’s important to understand that hoping to be discovered is not a business development strategy - choosing yourself is.
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan, she talks about the exhausting reality that the same people are often given the same opportunities in law firms, conferences, and leadership spaces while others are left wondering, ‘why not me?’. But instead of waiting to be picked, Megan shares why choosing yourself and advocating for yourself while making yourself visible is one of the mo...
What Makes Lawyers Stand Out to Law Firms? (with Albert Tawil, Founder of Lateral Hub)
“You don't have to craft your resume to make it look like you've wanted to be a lawyer since kindergarten. Just show your authentic self.” - Albert Tawil
What actually makes someone stand out in the legal industry?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Albert Tawil, Founder and CEO of Lateral Hub, to talk about entrepreneurship, authenticity, legal recruiting, and why the most interesting thing about you might have absolutely nothing to do with the law.
From starting a Co...
The 5 Most Important Things to Do After a Conference: You're Not Bad at Networking, Follow-Up (Minis with Megan)
Listener note: If you haven’t already, be sure to check out the previous episode, You’re Not Bad at Networking. You Were Only Taught One Way! on Apple or Spotify.
You’ve just come back from a big conference, energized, exhausted, and you’re ready to take action. You had great conversations, made meaningful connections, and now you want to keep that momentum going but aren’t totally sure of where to begin.
In this episode of Minis with Megan on So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese offers 5 tips that help...
What Happens When You Start Practicing Law Like an Innovator (with Vivek Jayaram)
“ For all of us, which is the hardest thing to do, is to really try to reach your true self.” - Vivek Jayaram
What if the problem isn’t the law…but how we talk about it?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Vivek Jayaram, an IP attorney who’s rethinking what it means to be a lawyer, not just in how he practices, but in how he shows up, communicates, and builds relationships.
From turning complex legal concepts i...
You’re Not Bad at Networking. You Were Only Taught One Way! (Minis with Megan)
If networking feels awkward, even at a senior level, you’re not the problem. Most lawyers and legal marketers have been taught a version that actually makes real connection harder.
In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese challenges the way networking is typically framed in the legal industry. The version that says you need to work the room, prove your value, and leave with something to show for it.
That version doesn’t just feel uncomfortable. It makes real connection harder.
This episode offers a di...
Redefining Success in Law: What a ‘Career Quilt’ Actually Looks Like (With Ashley Herd, Founder of Manager Method and former in-house counsel)
“I am redefining what success means to me.” - Ashley Herd
What if the way we think about careers, leadership, and success is completely wrong?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Ashley Herd, Founder of Manager Method, workplace expert, content creator, and author, to unpack what it actually means to lead, build a career, and show up as a human at work.
Ashley shares her journey from employment lawyer to in-house counsel to entrepreneur, and how a non-linear “career...
Why Legal Professionals Struggle to Fully Power Down (Minis with Megan)
If your workday keeps you mentally “on” long after you close your laptop, this mini episode offers a moment to reset.
Most lawyers or legal marketers never allow themselves to come out of “on mode.” They’ve only been trained how to push through it.
This episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan is intentionally different. It creates space to step out of constant responsiveness and notice what is happening in your body while you work.
Many lawyers and legal marketing professionals move through their days holding eve...
Why Most Lawyers Struggle After Parental Leave: What a ‘Mindful Return’ Looks Like (with Lori Mihalich-Levin)
NOTE: This episode contains language around infant loss and miscarriage. Take care while you listen.
Most law firms treat returning from parental leave as a routine transition. For many lawyers, it’s one of the most destabilizing periods of their careers.
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Lori Mihalich-Levin, CEO and Founder of Mindful Return, author of Back to Work After Baby, co-host of the Parents at Work podcast, and a healthcare lawyer at The GME Group. Lori shares why re...
What Constant Responsiveness Is Doing to Legal Professionals (Minis with Megan)
If your workday keeps you mentally “on” long after you close your laptop, this mini episode offers a moment to reset.
Most lawyers or legal marketers never allow themselves to come out of “on mode.” They’ve only been trained how to push through it.
This episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan is intentionally different. It creates space to step out of constant responsiveness and notice what is happening in your body while you work.
Many lawyers and legal marketing professionals move through their days holding every...
Success, Silence, and Postpartum Depression in the Law: The Conversation Big Law Needs
“ The motivation that got me going was thinking about the moms behind me, and not wanting them to have that same experience if we could do something to avoid it.” - Lindsay Aggarwal
What happens when a successful Big Law partner does everything “right” and still finds herself struggling?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey speak with financial services litigator and partner Lindsay Aggarwal about the realities of returning to practice after parental leave, the risks of mental health invisibility in high-performance environments, and how o...
Why Lawyers Struggle with Imposter Syndrome (Minis with Megan)
What if imposter syndrome isn’t actually about confidence?
In this mini episode, Megan Senese explores the deeper roots of imposter syndrome, the belief that “I’m not good enough”, and how the comparison trap and internal narratives shape whether lawyers put themselves forward or stay on the sidelines. Recognizing your own value isn’t just personal work, it’s a professional strategy.
The lawyers who believe in their value are the ones who step forward, build relationships, and ultimately generate business.
Who this episode is for:
Lawyers and legal marketers navigating imposter syndr...What Makes Lawyers Stand Out to In-House Counsel (with Jessica Nguyen, Deputy General Counsel of DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds)
“Trust is fundamentally about you do what you say you’ll do.” - Jessica Nguyen
How do you get 2,200+ legal professionals to show up for a contracts webinar?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Jessica Nguyen, Deputy General Counsel of AI Innovation & Trust at DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds, joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to pull back the curtain on why most law firm marketing completely misses the mark, how DocuSign is using AI to build deeper trust with its clients, and the one outside law firm t...
What Success Actually Looks Like (It’s Not What You Think) Minis with Megan
What does it take to be successful?
As stage closes out its third year in business, Megan Senese reflects on what has actually fueled growth, and it might not be what you think. In this mini episode, she shares why showing up consistently, a little bit every day, is what compounds into real business development and sustainable success.
Who this episode is for:
Lawyers building their book of businessFounders navigating early years of entrepreneurshipProfessionals frustrated by not being the “strategy” or “influencer” typeAnyone questioning whether steady effort really matters
Episode takeaways:
Want to Know How to Help Minneapolis? On the Ground with Civil Defense Attorney, Cari Brunkow
**Note: Before you listen**
This episode contains discussions of disturbing events that have taken place in Minnesota. Please take care while listening.
“Shouldn't we as a society really be taking a step back and dissecting this hate, and realize that it is shameful and embarrassing?...Right now, you guys might be interviewing me about what's happening in Minneapolis. I hope nobody is ever interviewing you about what is happening in your neighborhoods.” - Cari Brunkow
What happens when the national headlines are in your neighborhood?
In this powerful and deeply human conv...
Knowing the Risks and Jumping Anyway: Why You Can't Be Prepared for Everything (Minis with Megan)
Even when a risk feels calculated, it’s still a risk.
In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a memorable story about skydiving on her 18th birthday, and how it became a lasting lesson about control, fear, and the moments in life when all you can do is jump.
Who this episode is for:
Anyone standing on the edge of a big decisionPeople trying to calculate every outcome before moving forwardLawyers, professionals, and creatives facing uncertaintyAnyone who needs permission to act without guarantees
Episode takeaways:
Masking Made Me Successful and Also Burned Me Out (with lawyer Sarah Ennor, Founder of Growth Counsel, ADHD Pathfinder)
“I realized the reason I was so passionate about authenticity was because I hadn't had the opportunity to be that way myself in these corporate roles.” - Sarah Ennor
What does it take to be a different kind of leader in legal?
Sarah Ennor, Founder of Growth Counsel, is a former firm lawyer, and in-house counsel and compliance for big-bank asset managers, she felt the pressure to “fit in.” After receiving an ADHD diagnosis as an adult, she is on a mission to bring simple inclusion strategies to life through relatable stories. Culture, morale, and financia...
Overwhelmed? Here’s Small Things You Can Do (Minis with Megan)
When the news is overwhelming, and the world feels like it’s on fire, it’s easy to feel powerless.
In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a deeply human check-in about why relationships matter, how small actions can help us regain a sense of agency, and why resilience, not “self-care”, is what we need most right now.
Who this episode is for:
Anyone feeling overwhelmed Lawyers and professionals struggling to show up “as usual” when things aren’t normalPeople craving connection, grounding, and reassurance that they’re not alone
Episode takeaways
You Just Made Law Firm Partner, Now What? (Minis with Megan)
You made law firm partner, congratulations! But once the title settles in, many new partners ask the same question: now what? In this mini episode, Megan Senese walks through practical, people-first steps to help new law firm partners transition from employee to owner and start building real autonomy inside their firm.
Who this episode is for:
Newly promoted law firm partnersSenior associates preparing for partnershipLawyers navigating the shift from biller to business builder
Episode takeaways:
What Happens When the Rule of Law Is Put to the Test? (with law firm partner, Neel Chatterjee)
“If you're going to say lawyers can’t enter a courtroom because they’ve represented people in unpopular causes, then the rule of law falls apart.” - Neel Chatterjee
What happens when lawyers speak up, not just in court, but in defense of the rule of law itself?
In this powerful conversation, Neel Chatterjee joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to share the story behind Law Firm Partners United (LFPU): a grassroots movement that began with a single LinkedIn post and grew into a coalition of over 800 Big Law partners. Formed in response to executive overreac...
[Encore] Chasing Titles, Missing Joy: Redefining Success (with New Happy Founder, Stephanie Harrison)
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For the holidays, we're sharing a couple of our favorite episodes from the year.
Enjoy this encore conversation with Stephanie Harrison!
Stephanie Harrison is a bestselling author, podcast host, and founder of The New Happy, a movement grounded in the art and science of well-being. Stephanie holds a master’s in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, formerly led learning at Thrive Global, and her work now reaches millions through her podcast, newsletter, and widely shared visual art.
Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she st...
[Encore] The Go-Giver Way (with Author, Bob Burg)
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For the holidays, we're sharing a couple of our favorite episodes from the year.
Enjoy this encore conversation with Bob Burg!
Bob Burg is the storyteller, with co-author John David Mann, behind The Go-Giver, a Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller that has sold over a million copies. Bob is a former TV personality and top-producing salesperson. He speaks with corporations, organizations, and at sales and leadership conferences worldwide on topics central to The Go-Giver. And if you weren’t aware, there is an entire Go-Giver series that includes Go-Givers Sell More, The Go-Giver Leader and...
Do People Love Their Lawyers? This Founder is on a Mission to Make It a Yes! (with Brian Scherer)
What do you do when the traditional legal world no longer fits, but you still love practicing law?
For Brian Scherer, the answer was to build something new: HeyCounsel, a legal tech platform turned thriving community for solo and small-firm lawyers. In this thoughtful and often funny conversation, Brian joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to talk about reinventing legal practice, one relationship at a time.
What started as a no-code marketplace turned into a vibrant, supportive community for solo and small-firm lawyers. Brian gets candid about what didn’t work, what surprised him most, an...
When the Holidays Hurt: December May Not Be Wonderful for Everyone
December is often marketed as the most wonderful time of the year, but for many, it’s the hardest.
In this short episode, Megan Senese reflects on the complicated emotions that the holiday season can bring, especially for those navigating grief, anniversaries of loss, or simply a heaviness they can’t quite name.
This episode is a reminder that if December is difficult for you, you are not alone. And if it happens to be a good year for you? That’s okay too.
The throughline is this: none of us know what others...
What Happens When You Tell Your Story in Big Law: Healing, Resilience, and Overcoming Trauma (with Diana Lauritson)
**Note: Before you listen**
This episode contains discussions of domestic violence, childhood abuse, homelessness, and related trauma. Please take care while listening.
If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or text BEGIN to 88788.
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In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Diana Lauritson, legal marketing leader, LMA board member, and a survivor with one hell of a story.
With raw honesty and unwavering courage, Diana opens up about her journey...
The Power of Warmth in Law: The Hidden Skill Every Lawyer Needs (with Aneka Jiwaji)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Aneka Jiwaji, commercial litigator, mental health advocate, unapologetic voice on LinkedIn, and co-founder of a custom fine jewelry business. Aneka brings her full self to the conversation and reminds us why that’s exactly the point.
With warmth, humor, and candor, Aneka shares what it means to succeed in legal on her terms, as a racialized lawyer, a mom, and a multidimensional human being. She opens up about finding her voice, navigating a “let them” era of life, and how she’s rewriting outdated definitions of what it...
Business Development is Relationship Development: Tips Every Lawyer Needs to Know
This episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey share an honest look at what business development really means and why it should start with people, not pressure.
Together, they unpack the realities of growing a book of business, navigating networking as introverts and extroverts, and rethinking the idea that there’s only one way to build relationships that lead to work. From big-law lessons to independent coaching insights, they share the approaches that actually work, and why “business development” is really just relationship development.
In this conversation, they cover:
Why the most successful business development starts...Wellbeing and The Law (with Big Law Partner, Emily Logan Stedman)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Emily Logan Stedman, litigation partner at Husch Blackwell, mental health advocate, and host of The Grace Period podcast. Emily opens up about her path through big law, her personal mental health journey, and what it means to practice law without losing your sense of self.
Through honest reflection and hard-fought wisdom, Emily shares how she went from quietly burning out as a mid-level associate to finding purpose in well-being, mentorship, and authenticity. They discuss how high-achievers often struggle in silence, how our identities get tangled up...
Why Unlearning Silence Matters More Than Ever (with USA Today Bestselling Author, Elaine Lin Hering)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Elaine Lin Hering, facilitator, speaker, former Harvard Law professor, and author of the best-selling book, Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully. Through her global work on negotiation, leadership, and communication, Elaine has helped thousands of people speak up, find their voice, and challenge the systems that silence them.
Elaine shares the personal and professional experiences that led her to write Unlearning Silence, including why the question isn’t always how to speak up, but why we’ve stayed silent in t...
Hitting the Right Note in Legal (with Ian Carleton Schaefer)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Ian Carleton Schaefer, Partner at Sheppard Mullin, legal advisor to Fortune 100 companies and global institutions, and conductor of the Second Ending Ensemble. Ian’s story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly what makes it inspiring.
Ian shares the powerful story behind his “second ending,” a musical term turned life philosophy that helped him reconnect with a lifelong passion for music while navigating a high-powered legal career. He talks about studying conducting at Juilliard during the pandemic, how music and law are related to each other, a...
Leadership Can Come From Anywhere (with Baker McKenzie CFO, William Washington III)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with William Washington III, Global CFO of Baker McKenzie, who oversees more than $3 billion in revenue across 75+ offices worldwide. William’s path to the C-suite was anything but traditional. He shares his story and the twists and turns that led him to ultimately overseeing thousands of professionals at one of the world’s largest law firms.
William shares how resilience, setting boundaries, and staying authentic shaped his leadership. He explains why wellbeing practices like walking meetings, fitness, and meditation are game changers, and why focusing on people (not...
Leadership Can Come From Anywhere (with Baker McKenzie CFO, William Washington III)
In this episode, Megan & Jennifer sit down with William Washington III, Global CFO of Baker McKenzie, who oversees more than $3 billion in revenue across 75+ offices worldwide. William’s path to the C-suite was anything but traditional, from dropping out of school and working retail jobs to becoming a single parent and ultimately leading thousands of professionals at one of the world’s largest law firms.
William shares how resilience, setting boundaries, and staying authentic shaped his leadership. He explains why wellbeing practices like walking meetings, fitness, and meditation are game changers, and why focusing on people (not just...
BONUS: A Reading by Stephanie Harrison
This bonus episode is a special reading by Stephanie Harrison.
Listen to the full interview with Stephanie here:
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chasing-titles-missing-joy-redefining-success-with-new/id1785694022?i=1000723844608
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5VECTWHB5sZRdvuAdXJUdO?si=3138b975b8164bf6
Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
License type: Music Standard
Source: Envato Market
License Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577
Chasing Titles, Missing Joy: Redefining Success in Big Law (with New Happy Founder, Stephanie Harrison)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Stephanie Harrison, bestselling author, podcast host, and founder of The New Happy, a movement grounded in the art and science of well-being. Stephanie holds a master’s in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, formerly led learning at Thrive Global, and her work now reaches millions through her podcast, newsletter, and widely shared visual art.
In this honest, moving, and deeply affirming conversation, Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she stopped chasing external validation and started redefining happiness on...
Juice Worth the Squeeze: One General Counsel's Nonlinear Legal Story (with Heather Stevenson)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey welcome Heather Stevenson, General Counsel at Red Cell Partners, whose career path proves that bold moves can pay off. From starting as a litigator at Sullivan & Cromwell to owning and running a Boston juice bar, then returning to law to lead at the Boston Globe, and now at a tech incubation firm, Heather’s journey is anything but linear. She shares how entrepreneurial lessons, marathon training, and curiosity have shaped her leadership style, why personal connections matter more than perfect client alerts, and the boundaries that help her thrive as GC. Th...
Change Your Location: Change Your Perspective (with Chief Marketing Officer, Roy Sexton)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by the incomparable Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder Price, former International President of the Legal Marketing Association, and one of INvolve’s Top 100 OUTstanding LGBTQ+ Executives.
In this warm, funny, and deeply insightful conversation, Roy opens up about how he’s learned to lead without losing himself, including why he no longer ties his self-worth to professional validation, what helped him climb out of burnout, and how he approaches every CMO role with humility and curiosity. He shares the unexpected path that led him into legal...
Why Authenticity Is So Hard in BigLaw And Why It Matters (with Khurram Naik, Founder of Freshwater Counsel)
In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Khurram Naik, founder of Freshwater Counsel, to discuss the journey of moving from big law to starting a legal recruiting agency and the importance of authenticity in your career. Khurram, a former patent litigator at Goodwin and Polsinelli, shares how his deep connections and relationship-building approach have fueled his success in the legal world.
He opens up about the challenges of showing up authentically in a firm environment, how social media and LinkedIn became key to his personal brand, and the value of...
