Beach Road Banter - The Outer Banks Podcast
Beach Road Banter celebrates the people, places, and stories that make North Carolina's Outer Banks such a unique coastal community. Through conversations with local personalities, business owners, fisherman, surfers, artists, community leaders, and other fascinating guests, we explore the culture, history, traditions, and character of the OBX. Whether you're a local, a visitor, a second-home owner, or simply someone who loves the Outer Banks, you'll find something to enjoy. We'll also sprinkle in the occasional real estate tip or local market update, but our focus is simple: sharing what makes the Outer Banks unlike anywhere else.
True Blue: Tim Cafferty on the Outer Banks Then & Now
The Outer Banks Tim Cafferty grew up in would be almost unrecognizable today.
Growing up here in the '70s, Tim watched the area transform from a quiet seasonal beach community into one of the country's leading vacation rental markets. Today, he owns Outer Banks Blue and Sandbridge Blue and has spent decades in the vacation rental business, tourism leadership, and the local community.
We talk about what the Outer Banks was like before today's giant rental homes and nonstop connectivity, how Airbnb and changing travel habits have reshaped vacations, what's really happening with rental...
Pirates, Passport Plates & the Outer Banks Hustle
Fran Marlar has definitely earned her Outer Banks résumé.
After moving here in 2007, Fran built a life around surfing, fishing, food, writing, travel, and, like a lot of locals, more than a few careers along the way.
In this episode, we talk about her latest adventure with husband Lance: Black Flag Galley OBX, their new takeout restaurant in Kitty Hawk. We get into the story behind the restaurant, fresh local seafood and their creative "passport plates," plus Lance's charter fishing business and Fran's background as a writer.
We also venture well beyond th...
The 12 Weeks of August: Surviving Summer on the OBX
Living at the beach sounds pretty great—until August hits.
In this solo episode of Beach Road Banter, Randy breaks down the good, the bad and the ugly of living year-round on the Outer Banks during the "12 weeks of August." The heat won't quit, traffic somehow gets worse, the ocean turns into Lake Atlantic, black flies attack, summer employees disappear, and friends and family keep applying relentless pressure to… meet them for drinks.
It's a tough life.
But with fall, football, hurricane swells and a little breathing room right around the corner, there's hope...
Can the Outer Banks Keep Its Small-Town Soul? | Jeff Schwarzenberg on Tourism, Growth & the Future of OB
Jeff explains how the Visitors Bureau is funded, where tourism dollars really go, and why responsible tourism has become a major focus since the post-COVID boom. We discuss the challenges of balancing growth with quality of life, the misconceptions many residents have about tourism, and why protecting the Outer Banks' unique character is more important than simply attracting more visitors.
Along the way, Jeff shares his own journey from New York and Nashville to the Outer Banks, talks about the award-winning Outer Edge video series, and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the people, planning, and partnerships shaping...
Unwritten Rules of the Outer Banks
Randy goes solo to settle the locals vs. tourists debate—starting with the question of what actually makes someone a local on the Outer Banks (spoiler: even 30 years here doesn't necessarily qualify). From restaurant perks and pool hopping to bypass lane rules, grocery store chaos, beach safety, and why middle-aged men shouldn't challenge the Atlantic after eight White Claws, this hilarious episode is packed with insider Outer Banks vacation tips, local stories, and plenty of laughs. You're at the beach... act like it.
Building a Life on the Outer Banks: A Conversation with Gray Berrman
Arrived on the Outer Banks with little more than an old truck and a surfboard, Gray Berrman built a thriving real estate career, raised a family, and still finds time to give back — leading Scout troops and coaching a state runner-up track team. A conversation about building a life you're proud of in a place worth fighting for.
From Hatteras to Kitty Hawk: John Head on Community, Clients & Room in the Inn
John Head has called Hatteras home for over 25 years. As Director of Sales at Resort Realty, he's built a career on knowing this community inside and out — but ask anyone who knows him and they'll tell you that's only part of the story. In this episode, John talks about what it means to truly be part of the Outer Banks and how that shapes the way he works with clients one on one. We also dig into his involvement with OBX Room in the Inn, a Dare County nonprofit dedicated year-round to serving people experiencing homelessness. Right now they're ab...
Why Experience Matters in Today's Outer Banks Real Estate Market
Lynn and Randy discuss why experience matters in today's Outer Banks real estate market.Â
The Outer Banks real estate market is shifting back to normal after years of unprecedented demand. In this episode, Randy Jones and Lynn Sherman discuss why experience matters when markets become more challenging.
Drawing on decades of combined experience and thousands of transactions, we share real-life examples, lessons learned from past market cycles, and insights into what buyers and sellers need to know today. From pricing and negotiations to avoiding costly mistakes, this conversation highlights why experience can make all the d...
Waves, Faith and Froyo: Jessie Hines a Fixture on the Outer Banks
Jesse Hines has spent most of his life chasing waves, but his story is about much more than surfing. I'm really thrilled to have him as my guest today because Jesse is one of those people so many of us know from the water, from the community, or from Surfin' Spoon, but there's a lot more to his story than most people probably realize.
After moving to the Outer Banks at nine years old, Jesse found the place that would shape his faith, friendships, family, and future. What started as a childhood passion eventually became a professional...
Keeping the Outer Banks Cruising for Over 30 Years: Chip Cowan
Some people come to a place with a plan. Others arrive by accident and end up building something they never saw coming. Chip Cowan's story is very much the latter, and it is one that anyone who loves the Outer Banks will recognize. Chip is the owner of Outer Banks Bicycle, a shop he has run for over 32 years. It has quietly become a cornerstone of the local community.
What started as a recovery trip from back surgery with a cheap room, a tight budget, and no real agenda turned into a life rooted in the coast...
The People and Stories that shape the OBX; a conversation with Brian Tress
A place can look like a vacation destination on the surface, but underneath, it can completely reshape the direction of your life. The Outer Banks has that effect on people, and this conversation brings that transformation into focus through the lens of someone who experienced it firsthand. What starts as a simple visit can quietly turn into something much bigger.
Brian Tress joins the conversation as a freelance writer, reporter, and storyteller whose work appears in outlets like the Outer Banks Voice and Milepost. After a career in hospitality consulting, Brian made a life-changing decision to move...
Was 2025 Really a Down Year for Outer Banks Real Estate?
As 2026 gets underway, I'm joined by Lynn, my local real estate colleague here on the Outer Banks, and together we take a look at what actually happened in the 2025 market. There's been plenty of talk that last year was a downturn, but when you look at the data, the picture is more stable than many people expect.
Nationally, home prices rose modestly, inventory increased, and days on market moved higher, while total sales stayed near a 30-year low at roughly four million transactions, compared to the long-term average of five million. Here on the Outer Banks, residential...
Surfing with Humpback Whale in the Outer Banks | #43
Winter in the Outer Banks has a way of settling in quietly, and for many people it brings more than colder temperatures and shorter days. Once the holidays pass, there's often an emotional and financial strain that shows up, especially in a seasonal, resort-based community like this one. Work slows down, businesses feel the shift, and the outdoor lifestyle that draws so many of us here isn't always as easy to access when the weather turns, which can make the offseason feel heavier than expected.
I also want to share a quick update on the podcast. After...
Will Holmes on Surf, Community, and Why the Outer Banks Still Feels Like Magic | #42
Growing up on the Outer Banks shapes a person in ways that are hard to fully explain unless you've lived it. Today's episode taps into that local heartbeat through someone who embodies the true spirit of this place: Will Holmes, a lifelong OBX native who grew up in Chicahauk in Southern Shores, surrounded by salt air, bikes on the paths, and a tight-knit community of friends who are still connected decades later. His story is full of nostalgia for a time when kids spent sunrise to sunset outside, knocking on doors, riding bikes, and living life without screens in...
How To Make Sure Your Real Estate Transaction Closes. Lynn Sherman with eXp Realty Outer Banks Joins Me | #41
More real estate deals are falling apart today than at any time in recent memory, and anyone watching the 2025 market can feel the shift. With inventory inching up, days on market stretching longer, and buyers becoming more selective, the Outer Banks are seeing a noticeable rise in contracts that don't make it to the closing table. It's a change that affects every seller, every buyer, and every agent working here right now.
My guest today is Lynn Sherman with eXp Realty Outer Banks, my longtime business partner and a seasoned agent who's worked through multiple market cycles...
"We Are Not Broken" Allison Brown OBX Local And Life Coach Shares How To Handle Adversity And Thrive | #40
Some conversations stay with you, and this one will. Allison Brown has a calm, grounded way of talking about things most of us struggle to face including loss, change, and learning to trust ourselves again. She's a life coach, mentor, and spiritual guide, as well as a wife, mom of three, and active member of the Outer Banks community. With a background in psychology from UNC Chapel Hill and advanced training in Jungian life coaching, she combines psychology, spirituality, and neuroscience to help people live into wholeness after hardship.
After the sudden passing of her mother, Allison...
Business Leader, Wife, Mom And Top Real Estate Broker, Sarah Spencer | #39
There's something about the Outer Banks that stays with you. It's not just the beaches or the slower pace, it's the feeling that people here are building something meaningful. They work hard, raise families, and find ways to stay close to the coast no matter what life brings. Sarah Spencer has done all of that and more. She's managed to grow a thriving career while staying grounded in the place she loves most.
Sarah is a longtime real estate broker, business owner, and community leader who's spent nearly thirty years helping shape the local market. She built...
Why Locals Don't Fear Hurricanes | #38
When hurricane season hits the Outer Banks, the question isn't if—it's how you'll handle it. Today, Randy pulls back the curtain on what really happens when a major storm threatens coastal life. Forget the TV panic—Randy shares the real rhythms, risks, and resilience of a community that's weathered decades of hurricanes.
Hear firsthand what it's like to prepare (and sometimes stay put) through roaring winds, flying debris, and unpredictable tides. Learn how locals decide whether to evacuate, what they do to protect their homes, and why new homeowners may be dangerously underprepared.
Key Takea...
Investing Smarter in the Outer Banks with Jonathan St. Ledger. | #37
The Outer Banks market is shifting—so how do you stay ahead? In this episode, Randy sits down with returning guest Jonathan St. Ledger, an investor, developer, and builder, to unpack what's really happening with rentals, construction, and investment opportunities in 2025.
Jonathan shares how he balances buying and selling in today's climate, why tax benefits like bonus depreciation matter more than ever, and the creative ways he adds serious value to his properties (rooftop pools and dive-in movie theaters, anyone?).
Key takeaways include:
Why short-term rental demand is evolving, not disappearing How to leverage ta...When Community Becomes Family | #36
What happens when life throws an unexpected tragedy your way? On today's episode, Randy sits down with Patty McKenna, Executive Director of the Outer Banks Relief Foundation, to share how neighbors step in when storms of life hit hardest—not just hurricanes, but personal crises like illness, job loss, or family emergencies.
Patty tells the story of how the foundation began with one little girl's battle with leukemia and has grown into a lifeline for countless Outer Banks families. From helping parents keep their homes during medical crises to partnering with community surf contests that give back, Pa...
From Belarus to the Outer Banks | #35
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What does it take to leave everything behind and rebuild a life from scratch? YuliYa Hristov moved from Belarus to the Outer Banks with little more than determination—and today she's a thriving real estate professional, Airbnb host, and mom of two.
In this episode, YuliYa shares her journey from growing up in Eastern Europe to carving out success in one of the most competitive resort towns in America. She opens up about the challenges of being an immigrant, finding her path in real estate, and balancing family with business.
Key themes include:
...From Surfboards to Community Bonds | #34
What happens when a world-traveled surfer, board builder, and fisherman plants roots in the Outer Banks? You get David Rhode — a man who's been shaping boards, riding waves, and shaping community for over 40 years on the Outer Banks. From surfing Oregon swells in 1968 to glassing over 65,000 boards, David shares his front-row view of the evolution of surfing, the unmatched outdoor opportunities here, and the tight-knit spirit that shows up when it matters most. David also talks about how the Outer Banks is vital to the surfboard manufacturing business on the East Coast.
Themes you'll hear in this ep...
The Truth About Outer Banks Rentals in 2025 | #33
Are short-term rentals in the Outer Banks really slowing down—or just shifting? In this episode, Randy and Lynn break down what the numbers are really saying about the first half of 2025, from unexpected inventory dips to why some rental homes are sitting empty while others stay booked solid. They reveal how guest behavior is changing, why flexibility is crucial, and what smart homeowners and agents are doing to stay ahead in a market that's anything but predictable.
Key themes:
Inventory is down for the first time in years Self-managed vs. professional property rentals How buyer an...Ocracoke: No Rush, No Noise, Just Magic | #32
What's so special about Ocracoke? Randy finally gets it. This week, he shares how a laid-back birthday weekend on this quirky North Carolina island turned him from a skeptic into a superfan. From ferry rides and food trucks to rooftop drumming and pirate stories, Randy uncovers the unexpected magic of a place where everything slows down—and that's exactly the point.
Key themes & takeaways:
Slowing down is a superpower
The best travel stories are found in the in-between moments
Why a 12-year-old drummer might be the heartbeat of your vacation
Beachfront to Boardroom: An Accidental Empire | #31
What happens when a mom buys a condo for her son—and ends up building a 42-property vacation rental empire?
Stacey St. John joins Randy to share how a last-minute real estate decision turned into a thriving short-term rental business, a booming property management company, and a 65,000-strong community of women investors. From accidental landlord to STR industry leader, Stacey unpacks what it really takes to succeed in today's shifting market—and why a "lifestyle asset" may be your smartest investment yet.
Key themes:
How to pivot from a "failed" plan to financial free...
From Bar to Beach Concierge: Jenn's OBX Hustle | #30
What do you do when the beach is your backyard—but you still need to pay the bills? Jenn Crossman carved out a life on the Outer Banks through grit, hospitality, and an entrepreneurial spark that led her from bartending to launching a bespoke concierge service. In this episode, Jen shares how she built a life around making visitors' vacations unforgettable—from private beach dinners to dolphin tours and surprise engagements.Â
Takeaways:
How living in a tourist town fuels creative side hustles
Why great bartenders make natural connectors and entrepreneurs
Insider tips...
Coming Back to the Outer Banks with Nick Graham | #29
What makes someone leave a big city life behind and return to their small-town roots? For Nick Graham, the answer is simple: the Outer Banks isn't just home—it's who he is.
In this episode, Randy catches up with Nick, a local insurance agent whose deep ties to the Outer Banks go back generations. From growing up surfing and fishing with family to building a thriving career in a tight-knit coastal community, Nick shares what brought him back after college—and why he's never looked back.
Key themes:
Choosing purpose and place over...
The Mirror Test: Why Your Rental Is Failing | #28
It's easy to blame the market, the algorithm, or even the guests—but what if the problem is you? In this episode, Randy shares a humbling lesson from his own vacation rental property on the Outer Banks, where slipping standards and unchecked expectations led to a wake-up call.
Randy reflects on how we all sometimes stop doing the little things that lead to big results—whether it's maintaining a rental, building a real estate business, or staying in shape long after the glory days of college sports.
Key themes:
Why five-star reviews can set you...Running A Business in the Outer Banks with John Power | #27
Today, Randy is joined by John Power - a restaurateur and the original owner of The Blue Point in the Outer Banks. John shares how he came to start this restaurant that is now a staple of the town. He shares what attracted him to the Outer Banks and what he loved about running a business there. He gives insight in working with the community and creating a space that is beloved by the people there. If you're considering opening a business in the Outer Banks, this is the episode for you.Â
Beach season is here! What does it mean for full-timers on the OBX? | #26
 This week has officially kicked off the start of beach season on the Outer Banks! Schools are out and tourists are ready to come visit. But what does that mean for people who live in the Outer Banks year-round? Today, Randy talks about what it's like to be a local on the Outer Banks during the busy season. He talks about how the summer affects everything from the economy to wait times at restaurants. He addresses the rumors that less people will be traveling this year because of the economy and gives his takes on how to make the most o...
Dentistry on the Outer Banks with Gunther Heyder | #25
Today Randy is joined by Gunther Heyder - a local dentist, surfer, kiteboarder, and family man. He shares his experience of expanding dentistry on the Outer Banks. He talks about the personal journey that lead him to live on the Outer Banks and how once he got here, he knew he couldn't leave. He offers stories about surfing and exploring the Outer Banks and why he thinks this place is so special. Gunther and Randy talk about the community and the support the show towards one another. Â
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Advice for Buyers and Sellers on the Outer Banks | #24
Today Randy takes a deep dive into what the market looks like for buyers and sellers right now. He looks back on his predictions from January and compares those to where we are now. He also takes about his biggest pet peeves when working with buyers and sellers and the things he wishes they would do differently. He gives straightforward advice on how to get your home off the market quickly and all the things you need to consider when you sell. He compares the market of today to the market of a few years ago and gives his...
What happened to the fun in Youth Sports? | #23
 Today Randy takes a break from talking about real estate to share his thoughts on Little League sports. He goes over what he thinks needs to change about Little League to keep the game fun for kids. He talks about the lessons he learned from sports as a kid and how sports have affected his children. He shares his opinion on why sports are so important and the impact they have on children.Â
Surfing as a Local with Quentin Turko | #22
Randy sits down with Quentin Turko, a professional surfer and fisherman and Outer Banks local. They talk about some of their favorite places to surf in the Outer Banks and personal experiences they've had in the water. Randy shares a story about his wife taking Quentin to surf at the Pipeline and an almost run-in with a shark. They chat about the beauty of the Outer Banks and why it means so much to them. They also chat about Quentin riding what Surfer.com called "the biggest wave ever".
What are the differences in the towns on the Outer Banks? | #21
This week, Randy goes over the different towns in the Outer Banks and why some might be a better fit for you based on your lifestyle in the Outer Banks. He chats about which towns are great to live in year-round and what you can expect life to be like in the off-season. He gets into the specific pros and cons of different areas based on his experience living and selling homes there. He talks about what neighborhoods you may want to avoid or look into if you're thinking about living in the Outer Banks all year.Â
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1st Quarter in the books - OBX Real Estate and eXp talk | #20
Randy is once again joined by his business partner Lynn as they look back at their 1st quarter of 2025 on the Outer Banks. They discuss trends they've noticed and talk about what the market is doing. They share stories about working with people over the past 20 years as the market has gone up and down and offer their advice on how to deal with it. They also talk about mistakes they see sellers make again and again that can lose them money.Â
How Tariffs Will Affect Buying Homes | #19
Today, Randy approaches the topic of tariffs, which have been all over the news lately. He discusses what the tariffs mean for people about to buy a home. He goes over the pros and cons of the tariffs and who will be impacted by them. He talks about the history of some tariffs and how they've evolved over the years and how the proposed tariffs will differ from those. He chats about what you can expect to see an increase in prices on in the upcoming months and years.Â
The Limitations on Short-Term Rentals | #18
Today, Randy goes over the ways short-term rentals are having to change with local laws. With the rise of Airbnbs and VRBOs, some cities have created more restrictions on how short-term rentals work. He gives examples of how this has affected multiple areas across the US and goes into detail on what you can expect as a short-term rental owner. He talks about the how this can impact not just you put an entire city's economy.Â
What's Going On In The Market with Lynn Sherman | #17
Randy's business partner Lynn is back! Today they chat about what trends they're seeing in the housing market right now and how and if it will affect you. They go over some of their biggest pet peeves when selling homes and how you can create a stronger relationship with your real estate agent. They want to help you so by forming a good partnership with your agent, you can work together to sell your home quickly at a price that you'll be happy with. They share stories about clients they have worked with that have taught them valuable lessons...
Law on the Outer Banks with Kris Felthousen | #16
Randy sits down with attorney Kris Felthousen today to discuss his work as a lawyer on the Outer Banks. Kris has worked as a lawyer for years and has had so much valuable information passed down to him by those who came before him. He shares stories of the numerous people he has helped over the years - often out of towners who needed help quickly with a ticket before leaving town. He talks about what it's like to now be a mentor for the younger generation and the knowledge of the town that he is passing down to future...