Biohack Your World Podcast
Unlock the secrets to optimizing your mind, body, and lifestyle with the Biohack Your World Podcast — your go-to source for fresh insights from leaders in biohacking, longevity, and wellness. Hosted by biohacking experts and journalists, each episode features interviews with renowned scientists, doctors, entrepreneurs, and health visionaries who speak at the Biohackers World Conferences. Dive into a wide range of topics, from advanced nutrition and sleep hacking to neurotech, gene editing, and personal health optimization. Tune in to discover powerful tools for pushing boundaries, breaking limitations, and becoming the ultimate version of yourself!
How to Avoid Getting Worn Out in a Crowd and Why Empaths Are Most Vulnerable
What if biohacking is a tool for supporting your health—not the answer to becoming “perfect”?
In this episode of the Biohackers World Podcast, host Danielle Pashko speaks with international healer and spiritual guide Cru Von Holtzendorff-Fehling about the connection between biohacking, consciousness, and self-understanding.
Cru shares her perspective on staying present, reconnecting with yourself, and embracing both the “light” and “shadow” sides of your experience. They discuss health tracking and fear, the universe as an “opinionless mirror,” Cru’s experience with Lyme disease, breathwork, empathy, and ways to think about energy and embodiment. Cru also shares her inte...
You Are Not Your Job Title: Finding Your True Self
Who are you when you stop defining yourself by your job, relationships, achievements, and the roles you play?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, Andrew Daye, Breathwork & Mental Performance Coach and Founder of LucidState, sits down with Arabica Cunegin, General Manager at Leela Quantum Tech, for a conversation about identity, mindset, energy, and reconnecting with yourself beneath the labels.
Arabica argues that we often become so attached to being the parent, professional, partner, or high performer that we forget those are roles, not the entirety of who we are. She and Andrew explore what it...
Are You Over-Tracking Your Health? This is How to Use Your Data
What if all the health data you’re collecting is making you more anxious, not healthier?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, Colette Schnabel, Luxury Longevity Consultant, sits down with David Korsunsky, Founder of Heads Up, to talk about wearables, biomarkers, AI, and how to turn an overwhelming amount of health data into information you can actually use.
David makes an important distinction: data should be a compass, not a source of stress. A bad sleep score or HRV reading isn’t a verdict on your health it’s information that can help you notice patter...
Why Your Cells Are Starving for Light And How to Fix It
What if one of the most overlooked influences on your energy, mood, and sleep is something you’re exposed to every second of the day?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, Lauren Lowrey, TV News Anchor, sits down with Gary Kiss, Founder of ELUUMIS, to explore his perspective on light, circadian rhythms, nervous system regulation, and the signals our bodies receive from the environment.
Gary’s own routine starts surprisingly simply: go outside and look at the morning sky. From there, the conversation moves into the contrast between natural and artificial light, how modern environments may...
The Anti-Aging Molecule: Why Nitric Oxide is the Ultimate Longevity Foundation
Most people have never heard of the molecule they're born with, slowly lose as they age, and pay a price for losing it. At Biohackers World New York, host Colette Schnabel, Luxury Longevity Consultant, talks with Susan K. Shaffer, Co-founder and President of N101 by Numa Nitric Oxide, about why nitric oxide may be the missing piece in your healthy aging plan.
Susan tells the personal story behind her mission. Her father had his first stroke when she was 8 and his third by the time she was 14. Doctors told the family to "just call when it happens again."...
Why Top CEOs Focus on "Intraday Movement” and Avoid Extreme Biohacking
What if your thoughts are draining more energy than your schedule, workouts, or workload?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, Andrew Daye, Breathwork & Mental Performance Coach and Founder of LucidState, sits down with Lea Llovio, Mind-Body-Spirit Biohacking Expert & Consultant, to explore a side of biohacking that can’t always be measured by a wearable.
Lea’s approach brings together physical health, mindset, energy, and purpose. Her central idea is practical: pay attention to what your thoughts are leading you to do. Are they moving you toward better habits, stronger relationships, and more energy or quietly pulling you in t...
Why "Normal" Tests Don't Mean You're Healthy
What if your “normal” lab results are quietly leading you toward chronic disease?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference in New York City, this episode brings together John Torrens, Ph.D. (professor & podcaster) and Dr. Jin‑Xiong She, Ph.D., founder of Jinfiniti Precision Medicine and author of 400+ scientific publications. They break down how to move beyond seven‑minute doctor visits and generic blood panels to actually measure, predict, and optimize your healthspan.
You’ll learn how to use biomarkers, NAD, inflammation, and insulin resistance as practical tools, not abstract science, so you can make smarter choices about sleep...
Red Light Therapy Explained: How Modern Light Affects Energy & Recovery
What if the single most overlooked “nutrient” for your brain, mood, and longevity… isn’t a supplement at all, but light?
In this episode, Professor & Podcaster John Torrens sits down with Tom Kerber, CEO & Founder of SunPowerLED, to unpack four decades of working with light, from early blue LED dental devices to cutting‑edge red and near‑infrared therapy. Together, they explore how different wavelengths interact with your eyes, skin, mitochondria, and even your brain through the skull and how you can use that knowledge to feel and perform better every day.
You’ll hear how our modern, ind...
Why the Most Successful People Feel Empty — And How to Fix It
What if the next supplement, peptide, or biohacking device isn’t what your body truly needs?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, TV anchor and podcaster Lauren Lowrey talks with Dr. Mark Atkinson, Integrative Medicine Doctor and Chief Instructor of Longevity Science Academy, about what really creates lasting health.
With 20+ years of experience, Dr. Atkinson helps people improve not just physical health, but also stress, emotions, habits, and mindset. His message: get the fundamentals right before chasing advanced tools.
Red light, PEMF, peptides, and supplements can help — but if you’re sleeping poorly, stressed, or unc...
Why Going to Bed at 9 PM Is the #1 Anti-Aging Hack Nobody Wants to Hear
What if feeling tired, foggy, or weaker as you get older isn’t something you should automatically blame on age?
Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, Lauren Lowrey, TV News Anchor and Podcaster, sits down with Valerie Orsoni, Pioneer of Holistic Wellness and Biohacking, for a conversation about longevity, consistency, and why the basics still matter more than the latest wellness trend.
At 56, Valerie refuses to treat age as an excuse. Her approach starts with five simple pillars: sleep, stress management, social connection, food, and exercise. Only after those are in place does she look at supplements, te...
Why Your Mouthwash Is Wrecking Your Blood Pressure, Brain & Sex Life
Most people think that to improve their health or performance, all they need to do is start working out, change their diet, or try intermittent fasting.
But what if you are missing the crucial molecular foundation needed to make those habits actually work?
In this episode, Dr. Nathan S Bryan, Founder of Bryan Therapeutics, will discuss why Nitric Oxide (NO) is the "upstream signaling molecule" your body desperately needs.
When you exercise or fast, nitric oxide is what actually tells your mitochondria to replicate and rebuild. Without it, you are only getting a fraction of...
Gut Health Secrets: The #1 Habit Everyone Needs | Probiotics Don't Fix This
What if better gut health isn’t about adding more supplements, but understanding what your body actually needs?
At Biohackers World in New York, longevity journalist Klaudia Balogh talks with Sarah Greenfield, RD, TEDx Speaker and GutID Practitioner, about why gut health has become so overcomplicated, and what actually helps.
Sarah explains why your microbiome is more like an ecosystem than a list of “good” and “bad” bacteria, why random probiotics may not be helping, and how stress can affect your gut just as much as food.
What you’ll take away:
Why food div...Why Your Brain Shrinks At Night (And How To Fix It) | Dr. Patrick Porter
Can you train your brain for more energy, focus, resilience, and longevity?
In this interview, longevity journalist Klaudia Balogh sits down with Dr. Patrick K. Porter, brainwave-technology pioneer and founder of BrainTap, to explore the daily rituals, recovery strategies, and neurotechnology tools he believes can support brain performance.
From hydration and sleep quality to breathwork, exercise recovery, neurogenesis, stress regulation, and “brain breaks” at work, Dr. Porter shares his perspective on protecting cognitive health in a high-stress world.
In this episode:
• Why Dr. Porter says to delay coffee and hydrate first
• Brain fitness, ne...
Regenerative Medicine: Surgeon's Breakthrough Preventing Amputations With Injection
What if regenerative medicine could restore not just tissue, but quality of life?
At Biohackers World Los Angeles, sex scholar, bestselling author, and founder of Pleasure Science, Nadege, sits down with Dr. Bruce Werber, surgeon and Founder of BioXtek, to discuss how advanced placental-derived regenerative therapies are changing outcomes for patients with chronic wounds, orthopedic injuries, and sexual health concerns. Dr. Werber shares his journey from traditional surgery to pioneering biologic therapies, explaining how combining science, safety, and innovation can empower the body to heal naturally.
Topics explored in this episode:
• Dr. Werber’s tran...
Stop Guessing With Supplements: The Science of Personalized Nutrition
What if everything you thought about supplements and nutrition was missing one crucial piece your unique genetic blueprint?
At Biohackers World Los Angeles, health and longevity journalist Klaudia Balogh sits down with Kim Ressler, Founder and CEO of SNiP Nutrigenomics, to explore how personalized genetics can transform the way we approach wellness. Kim explains why generic protocols often fail and how understanding your own strengths, weaknesses, and genetic variations can help you optimize sleep, energy, digestion, and long-term health.
Key topics in this episode:
• why off-the-shelf supplements may not work for everyone
• the role...
Can This Light Penetrate Your Skull? Brain Fog Gone
Imagine a light so powerful that it can reach deep into your tissue, helping your body recover, detoxify, and optimize function at the cellular level.
At Biohackers World Los Angeles, TV news anchor and podcaster Lauren Lowrey sits down with Tom Kerber, CEO and Founder of SunPowerLED, to explore how cutting-edge red and near-infrared light therapy is transforming the way people approach recovery, cognitive performance, and overall wellness. Tom explains how his decades of work in light technology have led to high-power, targeted devices that go far beyond typical consumer red light products, providing measurable benefits from...
11.6 Billion Microplastics Inside Your Morning Cup
Some of the most powerful innovations in wellness begin with a simple question: what are we overlooking in our everyday habits that could be affecting our health for years to come?
Biohacking and longevity expert Valerie Orsoni sits down with Josephine Musco, Founder, CEO, and Scientific Patent Holder at Olyxir, entrepreneur, innovator, and advocate for sustainable wellness. Josephine shares the personal story that shaped her mission, from her father's battle with colorectal cancer to developing a patented process that enhances and stabilizes antioxidants in olive leaves. Their conversation explores entrepreneurship, longevity, environmental health, and the surprising role...
The Hidden Energy Crisis: NAD, Aging & Why “Healthy” Isn’t Enough
You can have the perfect mindset, a clean diet, a solid fitness routine, and still feel like your energy, focus, and resilience aren’t where they should be.
Naturopath and Quantum Body Doctor, Anna Marie Frank sits down for a discussion with Dr. Jin-Xiong She, Ph.D., Founder of Jinfiniti Precision Medicine and a scientist who has spent more than four decades studying disease prevention, longevity, and human health. Their conversation centers on one of the most important drivers of cellular function: NAD, a molecule that plays a critical role in energy production and may influence everything fr...
Stem Cells in Crisis: Why Your Repair System Is Failing
What if aging isn’t just inevitable decline, but more about how well the body keeps up with repair?
Holistic nutritionist and inflammation specialist Shaina Simhaee sits down with Dr. Joy Kong, Founder and CEO of Chara Health and the American Academy of Integrative Cell Therapy, for a thoughtful conversation on stem cells, regeneration, and the body’s remarkable ability to heal itself. Drawing from her clinical experience and years in regenerative medicine, Dr. Kong explains how cellular repair is happening inside us every day — and what changes when that process starts to slow down.
In thi...
Microbiome Myths Unmasked: Data, Disease & Your Hidden Health Code
Your gut contains more genetic material than the rest of your body combined, and understanding what that means may change the way we think about health forever.
Joining podcast host Brooke Gramer live at Biohackers World Los Angeles, Paul Denslow, Co-Founder and CEO of Intus Bio, opens the conversation around microbiome science, personal health data, and why collecting information is only valuable when it leads to meaningful action. As the company behind Gut ID, Intus Bio is focused on helping people move beyond scattered biomarkers and toward a clearer understanding of the bacterial ecosystems that influence health...
Nitric Oxide Exposed: The Molecule That Unlocks True Health
The smallest molecules often carry the biggest responsibilities, and according to Dr. Nathan Bryan, one of the most important for energy, circulation, and long-term health is something most people have never fully understood.
At Biohackers World Los Angeles, Natalia Naila, founder of Wellness Is Life, sits down with Dr. Nathan S. Bryan, Founder of Bryan Therapeutics and a leading nitric oxide researcher, for a science-rich conversation about circulation, mitochondria, stress, oral health, and why nitric oxide sits at the center of so many biological functions. Drawing from more than two decades of research and innovation, Dr. Bryan...
Beyond Botox: Placenta Power, Exosomes, and the Future of Regenerative Beauty
The idea that the body can help rebuild and repair itself still feels futuristic to many people, yet regenerative medicine has been quietly evolving for decades.
Recorded live at Biohackers World Los Angeles, holistic nutritionist Shaina Simhaee speaks with Dr. Bruce Werber, CEO and Founder of BioXtek, surgeon, educator, and pioneer in regenerative medicine with more than 30,000 procedures and over two decades dedicated to advancing healing therapies. Driven by years of treating trauma and diabetic wounds, Dr. Werber shares how the search to prevent amputations and improve patient outcomes led him toward placental tissue research and biologic...
Wearables Are Useless Without This: Turning Data Into Insight
You can track your sleep, glucose, HRV, and blood work for years, yet the real challenge begins when all that information turns into a mountain of disconnected data.
Live at Biohackers World Los Angeles, Health & Longevity journalist Klaudia Balogh spoke with David Korsunsky, Founder of Heads Up Health, who explained how his experience in big tech and systems analysis inspired him to create a platform that makes health information practical and actionable. Long before wearables became mainstream, David saw a growing problem: health data existed everywhere, yet very few people, including patients and doctors, could see the...
Nitric Oxide & Sexual Health: From Blood Flow to Longevity
What if one tiny molecule influencing blood flow, brain health, energy, and intimacy has been quietly shaping how we age all along?
Live from Biohackers World Los Angeles, sex scholar, bestselling author, and founder of Pleasure Science, Nadege, sits down with Susan K. Shaffer, Co-Founder and President of N1O1 by Pneuma Nitric Oxide, for a candid conversation about women’s health, aging, circulation, and the growing conversation around nitric oxide. Susan shares her journey from the tech world into wellness and explains how discovering nitric oxide sparked a mission that became deeply personal after reflecting on th...
Near‑Death Awakening: From Collapse to Radical Purpose
What if the moments that break us are actually the ones that bring us back to ourselves? From the floor of Biohackers World Los Angeles, Longevity Educator and Healthspan Strategist Josh Black welcomes Jason Shurka, Founder of UNIFYD World, author, and entrepreneur focused on consciousness, human potential, and purposeful living. Their conversation moves far beyond health routines and productivity hacks, exploring how adversity, awareness, and inner alignment can shape the way we experience life and create meaningful change.
Here’s what they unpack:
• Jason’s personal journey through repeated injuries and life-threatening health challenges
• how pain became...
The NAD Crisis: Why Most Biohackers Are Deficient, Overdosing & Even Harming Themselves
Imagine if the most hyped molecule in longevity is actually backfiring for millions.
At Biohackers World Los Angeles, wellness coach, influencer, and holistic health advocate Alison Fiori sits down with Dr. Jin-Xiong She, Ph.D., Founder of Jinfiniti Precision Medicine and a researcher with more than 400 peer-reviewed publications spanning diabetes, molecular biology, and longevity science. Their conversation moves from Dr. She’s early work in diabetes research to his current mission of helping people extend healthspan through precision testing, cellular energy optimization, and data-driven wellness strategies.
Inside this conversation:
how Dr. Jin-Xiong She transitioned fr...From “I Tried Everything” to Energetic Healing Tech: The Science, Devices & Stories Transforming Wellness
Your body is constantly sending signals through energy, long before any symptoms ever show up.
Live from Biohackers World Los Angeles, pioneer of holistic wellness and biohacking Valerie Orsoni sits down with Dr. Nima Farshid, Doctor of Integrative Medicine and PhD in Quantum Physics, for a fascinating conversation about biofields, energetic communication, and the technologies designed to help people better understand their internal state. Drawing from his own healing journey and years of research, Dr. Farshid explains how the body may be viewed through layers of energy and information, and why early awareness can play an important...
Why Most Wellness Protocols Don’t Stick: Energy, Mindset & Quantum Healing Stories That Defy Logic: Arabica Cunegin & Natalia Naila
Many people spend years trying different wellness routines, supplements, and optimization trends, searching for something that finally feels sustainable, grounding, and genuinely life-changing.
At Biohackers World Conference in Los Angeles, wellness entrepreneur and founder of Wellness Is Life, Natalia Naila, connects with Arabica Cunegin, Transformational Mindset and Spiritual Coach and Director of Operations at Leela Quantum Tech, for a conversation about frequency, energy, habits, and the deeper layers of personal transformation. Arabica shares her perspective on personalized wellness, energetic alignment, emotional awareness, and how small intentional habits can create meaningful long-term change that feels natural and sustainable...
The Science Behind Human Performance. Dr. Nathan S Bryan & Mike C-Roc
Many people are working harder than ever while feeling more exhausted, foggy, inflamed, and inconsistent than they should, and according to Dr. Nathan Bryan, the problem may have less to do with motivation and far more to do with what modern life is doing to human biology.
Recorded live at Biohackers World Los Angeles, entrepreneur and podcast host Mike C-Roc sits down with Dr. Nathan S. Bryan, Founder of Bryan Therapeutics and one of the world’s leading researchers in nitric oxide and human physiology, for a deep conversation about nutrient depletion, toxins, blood flow, metabolism, and wh...
The Missing Layer Of Biohacking: Lea Llovio & Alison Fiori
You can track every biomarker, follow the perfect routine, and still wake up exhausted wondering why something feels off.
Live from Biohackers World Los Angeles, wellness coach and longevity advocate Alison Fiori sits down with Lea Llovio, Mind-Body-Spirit Biohacking Expert & Consultant, for a conversation about the hidden emotional and energetic patterns that shape how we feel, heal, perform, and connect with the world around us. Lea shares why high performers often reach a point where optimization alone stops working, and how thought patterns, unresolved emotional stress, and nervous system overload can quietly affect energy, motivation, recovery, and...
Why Your Body Needs Better Light? Tom Kerber & Brooke Gramer
Most people spend years tracking sleep, supplements, stress, and recovery without ever questioning one of the biggest inputs shaping their energy every single day: light.
Live from Biohackers World Los Angeles, podcast host Brooke Gramer sits down with Tom Kerber, CEO and Founder of SunPowerLED, to explore how modern indoor living, artificial lighting, and constant blue light exposure may be affecting inflammation, brain function, recovery, and overall performance more than most people realize. With over 50 years in electronic development and engineering, Tom shares why red and near-infrared light therapy is becoming a serious area of interest for...
You Have the Data. So Why No Results? Paul Denslow & Josh Black
You might be tracking every metric imaginable… yet still missing the real story of what’s happening inside your body.
At Biohackers World in LA, Josh Black, Longevity Educator & Healthspan Strategist sits down with Paul Denslow, Co-Founder & CEO of Intus Bio, to talk about something most people overlook: the gap between having data and actually understanding your health.
We track steps, sleep, HRV, blood work. We try new routines, new supplements, new protocols.
But for a lot of people, the results don’t match the effort.
In this episode you’ll learn:
• why more healt...
What If You’re Doing Everything Right But Your Body Disagrees? Kim Ressler & Anna Marie Frank
What if you’re not doing anything wrong… but your body just isn’t responding the way you think it should?
At Biohackers World Conference, Anna Marie Frank, Mindset Doctor, Speaker, and Author sits down with Kim Ressler, Founder & CEO of SNiP Nutrigenomics, to talk about something a lot of people quietly struggle with: you’re eating clean, taking the right supplements, staying active, and still feeling tired, inflamed, or just off.
Kim knows that place firsthand. After more than a decade of trying different approaches, from functional to conventional, she wasn’t getting lasting results. T...
How Quantum Frequencies, EMFs, and Coherence Shape Your Cells: Philipp Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling & Danielle Pashko
What if optimizing your health wasn't only about supplements, diets, or protocols, but about the energetic environment your cells live in every day? Recorded live at Biohackers World Conference, functional nutritionist and Functional nutritionist Danielle Pashko sits down with Philipp Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling, Founder & CEO of Leela Quantum Tech, to explore the often-overlooked role of quantum energy, frequency, and cellular coherence in human health.
Philipp shares his personal transition from the corporate telecom world into energy healing — accelerated by confronting chronic Lyme disease and the limits of conventional medicine. Together, they unpack how quantum-imprinted technologies interact with th...
Why Your Brain Never Fully Shuts Off: Dr. Patrick K Porter & Valerie Orsoni
What if your stress, poor sleep, and constant mental noise aren't personality traits, but brain states you were never taught to regulate? Recorded at Biohackers World, holistic wellness pioneer Valerie Orsoni speaks with Dr. Patrick Porter, founder of BrainTap, about how your brain actually moves through stress, recovery, intuition, and sleep.
With over 30 years of brainwave research and neuroscience, Dr. Porter explains:
• Why most people live stuck in beta brainwaves and never access true recovery states
• How alpha and theta waves support meditation, healing, and deep sleep
• Why "trying to relax" often backfires neurologically
•...
Why Clean Water Isn’t Actually Clean: Leo Szymborski & Marvel Bishop
What if the biggest biohacking upgrade you're missing is your water? Recorded live at Biohackers World, entrepreneur and podcaster Marvel Bishop sits down with Leo Szymborski, Founder of pH Prescription and widely known as the pH King.
Leo shares his unlikely journey from running a plumbing crew at 19 to nearly losing his life to heart disease — and how discovering hydrogen-rich, properly filtered water helped him reduce his heart medications from six to one.
In this episode:
• Why most tap water creates far more oxidative stress and toxic load than people realize
• How chlorine, heavy...
The Dopamine Crisis Nobody Is Talking About: Clayton Thomas & Jheri South
What if focus, mood, and even neurodivergence aren’t personality traits, but biological signals your body is overwhelmed?
In live session at Biohackers World, influencer and coach Jheri South discuses with Clayton Thomas, Founder & CEO of The ROOT Brands, about gut health, detoxification, neurotransmitters shape and how we think, feel, behave.
Clayton breaks down why dopamine and serotonin are mostly produced in the gut, how environmental toxins disrupt brain signaling, and why modern life is especially hard on neurodivergent kids and adults.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• How toxins interfere with focus...
The Cellular Mistake Almost Everyone Makes: Dr. Krishna Doniparthi & Valerie Orsoni
What if the real problem isn’t what you’re taking but whether your cells can actually use it?
Recorded live at Biohackers World, holistic wellness pioneer Valerie Orsoni sits down with Dr. Krishna Doniparthi, Chief Medical Officer at Precision Nutrients, to unpack the overlooked foundations of cellular health.
This conversation dives deep into phospholipids, fatty acids, and cell membrane integrity — and why inflammation, toxins, and stress often block healing even when labs look “normal.”
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why Omega-3s work only within a specific therapeutic window
• How env...
Why Your Wearables Aren’t Helping: David Korsunsky & Shimite Obialo
What if the problem isn’t lack of health data, but the fact that none of it talks to each other?
In this episode business advisor and Forbes contributor Shimite Obialo and David Korsunsky, founder of Heads Up, unpack why wearables, labs, medical records, and biomarkers often create confusion instead of clarity.
David shares how his own biohacking journey led him to build one of the first platforms designed to unify long-term health data and why regulatory changes, APIs, and now AI are finally making true integration possible.
In this episode, you’ll lear...
What If We’ve Been Screening the Wrong Way? Linda Bamber-Olson & Cybil Bonhomme
What if healing wasn’t only about drugs, supplements, or surgeries, but about the signals your body receives every second?
In this episode, epidemiologist Cybil Bonhomme sits down with Linda Bamber-Olson, ND, founder of WAVwatch, to explore how frequency-based tools, thermography, and non-invasive technologies are reshaping the way we think about prevention and healing.
Born deaf in one ear, Linda’s path into holistic medicine deepened after her mother and sister developed breast cancer, despite years of routine mammograms. That experience led her to question conventional screening, pioneer thermography-based monitoring, and eventually develop a wearable freq...