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Originally airing on March 1, 2024, fresh off his first Daytona 500 win, William Byron joins Kenny Conversation for an honest discussion about his rise from sim racing to becoming one of the sport’s top drivers. William shares his earliest interactions with Rick Hendrick and Jeff Gordon, including which of the two initially doubted his abilities. 

Kenny presses Byron on his evolving relationship with crew chief Rudy Fugle, and William shares why he spends more time at the Hendrick garage than any other HMS driver. Plus, Kenny brings out Byron’s personal side with stories about family, faith, and Legos...

This week on Herm & Schrader, Rick Mast is back and joins Herm as the relief co-host while Schrader races in Iowa. They break down Atlanta as Ryan Blaney dominated his way to victory lane. Meanwhile, Carson Hocevar is still trying to figure out why he got hung out to dry...why can't Carson seem to find any friends on track? Does it really matter? The fellas discuss.  And there were lots of bent fenders and bruised egos following the Truck action at Lime Rock and the O'Reilly Series in Atlanta, which drivers stood out from the crowd?

The man, the myth, the legend...Cleetus McFarland is the latest guest on Kenny Conversation! Kenny and Cleetus dive headfirst into just about everything—from the controversial (yes, they’re talking about the decline of Mountain Dew) to the hilarious (Kenny’s performance in the Freedom 500 gets put under the microscope), and everything in between. Expect laughs, cameos, and plenty of unexpected tangents. Of course, it wouldn’t be a true Cleetus episode without some surprise guest appearances—Squirrel McNutt and Mr. Sam pop in to make sure things stay Kenny-level chaotic.

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This week on Herm & Schrader, Herm's back and we've got lots to catch up on.  Chicagoland Speedway is back too, with an explosive return over 4th of July weekend capped off by two great finishes. Will this be a one-off revival, or could Chicagoland make a return appearance to the schedule in 2027?  Toyota continued its domination of the Cup Series with Chase Briscoe's first win of the season - the fellas debate if Toyota's purported advantage is unfair and if NASCAR should rein them in. Will Brad Keselowski's pointed challenge to Ford and Chevy spark a turnaround for the man...

This week, Kenny Conversation features a pair of childhood friends reconnecting after a long time apart. Kenny Wallace and Terry Phillips grew up together at race tracks around Missouri, with Kenny learning from his brother Rusty, and Terry being under the tutelage of his father Larry. Now, both of their mentors are solidified in the NASCAR Hall of Fame, as Larry was finally elected this year after a long wait. But his son, Terry, also carved out his own racing legacy, becoming one of the best dirt racers of all-time and a Hall of Famer in his own right...

Kenny Wallace is feeling a little under the weather, but don’t worry—the reliever is in! Rick Mast steps back into the booth alongside Schrader to break down all the action from Sonoma. And yes… surprise, surprise—SVG is back in victory lane yet again, delivering another masterclass with his signature fancy footwork on full display. The fellas debate what his win means and what we can learn from it.

Meanwhile, while some are calling Toyota the dominant force of 2026, we dig into the facts and cut through the noise—reminding everyone just how razor-thin the line really...

In this Kenny Conversation, which originally aired on January 17, 2024, defending Cup Series Champion Ryan Blaney joins Kenny to discuss his rise through the ranks of NASCAR. Ryan shares stories of his upbringing and how both his father and grandfather left indelible marks on his childhood. Now a very successful driver for a powerhouse organization in Team Penske, Ryan and Kenny talk about his desire to complete his career driving for The Captain. Where does Ryan see NASCAR trending, and how can he help grow the sport and take it to new heights? All that and more on this week's...

With Herm on vacation this week, we've brought in our ace reliever, Rick Mast, to break down all things San Diego with Schrader. With young talent Corey Heim securing the win, is it too early to start predicting his future Cup Series success? The weekend at Naval Base Coronado was a perfect celebration of racing and patriotism, so could a return trip be on deck for 2027? And after another win in the Truck Series for Layne Riggs, is Front Row Motorsports ready to take the next step? Plus, we remember Steve Wade, a legendary motorsports journalist who helped shape ea...

You’ve heard her on Door Bumper Clear & Rare Breeds, but now you get the full story! Karsyn Elledge joins Kenny Wallace this week for a fun conversation about racing, life, and growing up as part of the most famous family in racing. She explains the family dynamic of being both an Earnhardt and an Elledge, and how her relationship with Dale Jr. has evolved over the years. Karsyn has done basically every job in the racing world and brings that unique perspective to each topic. Kenny and Karsyn also discuss the future of women in NASCAR and which fem...

Herm & Schrader are back home and trying to figure out if anyone can beat Denny Hamlin or Justin Allgaier? The Cup Series had another sellout at Pocono... and the fellas debate if NASCAR's ability to shift the race start time was influenced by broadcasting on a streaming platform like Amazon Prime. NASCAR heads west to San Diego this weekend, what can we expect from an entirely new road course? Plus, Schrader delivers some of the best jokes in H&S history!

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Kenny Wallace caused some controversy regarding the Nashville Fairgrounds, and now he's explaining himself to legendary motorsports journalist Matt Weaver! Weaver joins the show to discuss what's really going on with the historic racetrack and its future as a potential NASCAR venue. There are forces in Nashville that would like to see the track torn down, and old school racing purists are fighting the good fight to keep it standing. Weaver and Wallace then debate the state of NASCAR and how the sport is doing midway through 2026, after a tumultuous off-season.

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With Denny Hamlin securing his 63rd Cup Series win and tying Kyle Busch on the all-time wins list, the fellas revisit Hamlin's rumored retirement plans. Could 2026 finally be Denny's year for a title, or is he just keeping the seat warm for Brent Crews? Carson Hocevar continues to be a fan-favorite, but is he burning too many bridges with his competitors? With speeds over 210 miles per hour at Michigan...and Christopher Bell and Chase Elliott taking hard hits on the wall, is the racing too fast or just right?

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Jamey Flannery was a winning off-road truck racer, who thought he was invincible until a dramatic health scare forced him to reconsider his life's priorities. Now a very successful businessman, Flannery has scaled his endeavors at such a rapid pace, he occasionally struggles to manage it all. Hear how he learned racing from the likes of Jimmie Johnson and Walker Evans. The Wisconsin native also opens up about how Walker & Kenny's brother, Rusty Wallace, became second fathers in his life.

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Did we just witness one of the greatest Cup races of all time this weekend at Nashville? The fellas share their opinions. With the 2026 season reaching the halfway mark, silly season rumors are starting to swirl...who could we see swap rides for next season? Justin Allgaier is dominating the O'Reilly Series this year and just might be rethinking his retirement plans. Wallace shares his perspective on what Allgaier should choose. And how are short tracks handling adversity?  Common sense solutions are working for some, while others are fighting for their footing...no matter what they do. 

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Originally airing on March 6, 2024, motorsports fans won’t want to miss this episode as Kenny Wallace talks with X-Games legend Brian Deegan. This episode is an honest, high-energy conversation about racing, risk, family, and building a motorsports and content empire. Brian opens up about his path from freestyle motocross pioneer to off-road racing icon, the sacrifices behind the fame, and what it’s really like raising one of the biggest motorsports families in America. They discuss Brian’s daughter, Hailie, and her journey trying to make it in NASCAR.

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This week on Herm & Schrader, we wrap up an emotional weekend with the guys' thoughts on Kyle Busch and how he was honored around the world.  And fittingly, we get to break down what may go down as two of the most competitive Indy 500s and Coca-Cola 600s we have seen.  The guys also talk about the weekend's tough weather situation and how NASCAR navigated that to get each National Series race completed.  And, we look at Memorial Day and how military members, in particular, have helped shape motorsports.  It's all this week on Herm & Schrader.

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You might think you know Rick Allen from his time in the TV booth, but you probably don’t know everything. He was the golden voice in NASCAR for over 20 years, but there’s a lot more to his story. From being a champion decathlete who almost made the Olympics to serving as the voice of Nebraska football, and also being a renowned woodworker who built his own house, Rick Allen is full of surprises. He's also an auctioneer, broadcasts bowling, college football, and college basketball...the list goes on and on. Kenny and Rick discuss the state of NASCA...

With Ken Schrader off racing in the remote corners of Canada, Alan and Kenny Wallace fill in the gaps and recap the All-Star weekend at Dover. With Denny Hamlin securing his 2nd All-Star race win, the fellas discuss how Hamlin's been able to peak his performance during the end of his career. Wallace gives a passionate rant about what worked for Dover's All-Star debut, and what didn't. Alan thinks the O'Reilly Series car is great, and Herm tells us why he's sick of hearing about it. Plus, pit road heroics from a Spire crewmember helped prevent potentially serious injuries...

Kenny Wallace catches up with the winner of the 2000 NAPA 500 at Atlanta, Jerry Nadeau! They discuss his unlikely rise from a grassroots upbringing in karting in the Northeast to becoming a NASCAR Cup Series winner. Jerry's career could best be described as "snake-bitten" with his highs and lows playing out in dramatic fashion, including a vicious 2003 crash at Richmond that abruptly ended his racing career. Wallace and Jerry discuss how he bounced back and been able to find purpose after racing.

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Herm & Schrader are back from Kyle Petty's Charity Ride Across America and give us the highlights from the racing action this weekend.  Shane van Gisbergen continues to chase history following another road course win at Watkins Glen. The fellas get into a spirited debate discussing if it's harder to get into good equipment and deal with immediate expectations to perform, compared to starting in lesser rides and building your way to the top. Wallace heaps praise on Kaden Honeycutt after his standout 4-win weekend, and Schrader shares his predictions for the young star. With NASCAR's decision to hold the Al...

With so much NASCAR electric vehicle speculation going on lately, Kenny Wallace figured it was time to seek out an expert. Mike Ege was a long-time engine builder for the likes of Rusty Wallace & Mark Martin. He details how an electric motor would work in NASCAR and the many challenges it could create. How far away is the technology from being viable in premier motorsports? Plus, Ege and Kenny share some classic NASCAR stories and discuss how the sport has changed for the better and worse.

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Steve O’Donnell needs new business cards because after 31 years working in NASCAR, he’s now the man in charge after being named CEO last week! O’Donnell explains how he got his start in business and NASCAR, working his way from the bottom all the way to the top. Where did the sport make mistakes along the way and how can NASCAR get back to the good ol’ days? O’Donnell details why things were done the way they were, while also looking to the future. He wants drivers with personality, and oh by the way, this whole NASCAR ele...

This week, Herm & Schrader tackle all the big issues.  Carson Hocevar won his first career Cup race at Talladega and everyone is asking the question, could Carson be the next Intimidator?  Cleetus and Hocevar continue to dominate the headlines, is that a good thing for the sport?  Three first time winners came out of Talladega; might a changing of the guard be on the horizon? And of course, all these questions and more will be answered on this week's episode so take a ride on Talladega Boulevard and check out Herm & Schrader.

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The Midwest meets the Northeast in this conversation between two NASCAR legends. Tommy Baldwin details his journey from a famous Long Island racing family down to Charlotte to realize his NASCAR dream. As a crew chief, he won some of the biggest races in the world...but why did Baldwin turn down opportunities to work with Mark Martin & Jeff Gordon? Crew chief, team owner, competition director, and, of course, now podcaster right here on Dirty Mo Media, Baldwin brings his one-of-a-kind perspective to this great Kenny Conversation.

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This week on Herm & Schrader, the guys talk about how Tyler Reddick continues to shred the competition in the NASCAR Cup Series. Carson Kvapil took a tumble in the O'Reilly Series and got out unscathed, so we ask the question: Is motorsports still dangerous?  The ladies showed out in the ARCA Menards Series, but are we any closer to a female winner in the Cup Series? Plus, the fellas share their weekend race plans and offer up some classic Herm & Schrader-style jokes!

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Bob Sargent is one of the best race track promoters in America, and he has such a pulse on all aspects of racing that we had to talk with him for a second time! Sargent discusses the future of Nashville Fairgrounds and how Dale Earnhardt Jr. helped the cause,driving in the CARS Tour over the weekend in front of a sold-out crowd of about 12,000 fans. Bob talks about the politics of racing and putting on both an event and a race at the same time. Should NASCAR and local tracks follow the Cleetus McFarland model? Kenny and Bob br...

This week on Herm & Schrader, the fellas break down Ty Gibbs' breakthrough win at Bristol.  Thunder Valley saw three great finishes in each of NASCAR's National Series, but could the spring race's future be in doubt after another lackluster crowd? Speaking of crowds, short tracks across America continue bringing in big groups of fans, including Nashville Fairgrounds, but is it enough to save the Music City favorite? 

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We’re going back into the archive for another Kenny Conversation classic that originally aired 12/7/2023. Kenny talks to one of NASCAR’s best reporters and podcasters, Dirty Mo Media’s own Jeff Gluck! Jeff describes how he got into the business of motorsports journalism. He also explains how he came up with two of his famous features, “Quiet Track” and the “Was it a good race?” poll. It’s a racer talking to a reporter, and it’s one you don’t want to miss!

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Herm is finally back from his vacation, and he and Schrader discuss the weekend in Rockingham and Cleetus-Mania! We debate if Cleetus McFarland passed the test with his Rockingham performance...but should he have been there in the first place? Wallace adds his 2 cents to the NASCAR Hall of Fame debate. Plus, it was Heim-time again in the Craftsman Truck Series, but did Kaden Honeycutt get a raw deal from his teammate? 

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This Kenny Conversation with Mike Wallace originally aired on 9/6/2023. The brothers discuss how Mike achieved his NASCAR dream, winning 9 races across NASCAR's O'Reilly and Trucks series, and becoming a superspeedway ace. However, there was also heartbreak along the way with the tragic loss of his son. Mike overcame a lot to become successful on and off the track, and shares details on his post-racing career working in real estate.

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Rick Mast is back again to fill in for Kenny Wallace, and he and Schrader break down Chase Elliott's big Martinsville win. The fellas also discuss Bubba Wallace's recent incidents, including his road rage directed at Carson Hocevar. And the guys weigh in on the topic that dominated NASCAR news last week: who belongs in the NASCAR Hall of Fame? It was another slamming weekend of short track racing in the Carolinas; we debate if today's future stars are real racers or just a bunch of wannabes.

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You think you know Ty Gibbs from watching him on TV? Well, let’s actually get to know him. That’s what this Kenny Conversation is all about. The 23-year-old is an open book, even giving a tour of the trophy room in his house. How does he deal with the online haters? Gibbs has a very funny answer to that. And Ty discusses the life lessons he’s learned from “Coach,” his grandpa, Joe Gibbs. If you’ve already made up your mind on Ty Gibbs, this discussion may change your mind.

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Rick Mast fills in again for Kenny Wallace, who's off on vacation, and the fellas discuss a historical win for Tyler Reddick at Darlington. Rick Mast is stunned by the number of young fans he saw sporting Carson Hocevar merchandise; will this new phenomenon last?  Schrader recounts an old story about the time he tried to "get even" at the 'Track Too Tough To Tame', and why he refused to stop by NASCAR's hauler afterwards. Plus, we do a little dirt racing recap and tell our famous jokes!

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This Kenny Conversation features a man who has done it all and can still do it all, legendary motor builder, Vic Hill! Hill’s racing journey began in various NASCAR shops, where he spent time working for Richard Childress and other prominent teams. Thanks to grit, determination, and a little luck, Hill has established a reputation as dirt racing’s greatest engine builder. He’s also a very successful dirt racer himself, owns Bulls Gap Raceway in Tennessee, and has created his own streaming platform called “The Thrill.TV.” Kenny & Vic cover it all in this discussion with two racers who...

This week, Herm & Schrader discuss Denny Hamlin's emotional win in Las Vegas, and discuss where he stacks up on the all-time NASCAR Cup Series wins list. The fellas debate how many more checkered flag Hamlin's likely to claim before his career closes out. Plus, former Trackhouse teammates Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez were chirping at each other after the race. Will we see more sparks as the season progresses? It was a tragic weekend in dirt racing; we look back on the good and bad from the grassroots racing world.

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Originally airing June 28, 2023, this Kenny Conversation with Nick Hoffman is the perfect listen for fans of the dirt super late model world! Hoffman covers all the bases...from his St. Louis roots to becoming a multi-time UMP modified champion. Kenny and Hoffman dive deep into a near-death experience Hoffman endured after a horrible car accident, which gave him a new lease on life and racing. Plus, he’s all business as the very successful owner of Elite Chassis, providing race cars for teams all over the country.

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This week on Herm & Schrader, we discuss Ryan Blaney's Phoenix win.  More importantly, we ask the question: how does Blaney's 'stache stack up against the fastest facial hair in NASCAR history? Plus, IndyCar and NASCAR were on the same car again at Phoenix...is the time right to see more of these combo weekends?  And, Cleetus McFarland has stirred up a lot of conversation among fans for giving a spot in an RCR O'Reilly car, but Schrader reminds us of the rookie test required of AJ Foyt all the way back in 1986!

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Kenny Wallace talks it over with the guy dominating the NASCAR world --- 23-year-old phenom, Carson Hocevar. The two discuss their mutual love for dirt racing, and Hocevar details his Michigan upbringing, including how his family sacrificed to help him climb the racing ladder. Carson got his big break in 2023 at Kenny's home track in St. Louis. That first Cup Series performance catapulted Hocevar to a ride at Spire, and the rest is history. "Hurricane Hocevar" is not afraid to ruffle some feathers on-track, but everyone should get used to it...because Carson Hocevar has a long-term contract and i...

Herm & Schrader talk all about Tyler Reddick's record-breaking win at COTA, becoming the first driver in NASCAR's history to win the first 3 races to start a season. The fellas dive into IndyCar and NASCAR's unique double-header on back-to-back weekends, first on the street course in St. Petersburg and this weekend on the Phoenix mile. Plus, young drivers are running into each other every week and having to apologize to one another; we debate how past racing legends would have handled those run-ins. 

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This week's Kenny Conversation is from deep in the vault, going all the way back to our 10th all-time episode that originally aired June 18, 2023, with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Ricky is coming off his improbable and incredible Daytona 500 win and explains why he’s been so good on superspeedways throughout his career. At his core, however,  Stenhouse is a dirt racer - just like Kenny Wallace. These two dirt-dobbers break down the sport from a grassroots level all the way up to the NASCAR Cup Series, ending with a spirited debate on the Next Gen car. 

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