Herm & Schrader
Epically historic. Occasionally irreverent. Always hilarious. Never – and we mean never – giving a single solitary damn about anything but racing, drinking beer and telling stories, some even true. What else would you expect from a show with Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader, the charismatic, fan-favorite, midwestern buddies who are still gettin’ it done on racetracks near you. On this show, Wallace and Schrader chime in on current events, rehash old stories from their NASCAR careers and engage in conversations that have always been private … until now. Be forewarned – the two Kennys play by nobody’s rules. They say what they want. They d...
Elliott Sadler: The Championship Opportunity He Still Can't Get Over, & The Ups And Downs Of A NASCAR Career
Elliott Sadler opens up about the highs and lows of his impressive NASCAR career, his appreciation for JR Motorsports, and how he deals with coming up just short of winning a NASCAR Championship in this riveting edition of "Kenny Conversations" that originally aired on 11/21/23. Elliott also shares how his childhood experience with basketball has turned into a passion project that's allowed him to give back during retirement.
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Kyle Petty: Growing Up A Petty, His Musical Itch, & The State of NASCAR's Next Gen
With Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader both on the Kyle Petty Charity Ride this week, what better time to reach back inside the Kenny Conversation vault and hear from Kyle himself? In this discussion, which originally aired on September 28, 2023, Kyle discusses what it’s like growing up a Petty, how he got into music, and his thoughts on NASCAR's Next Gen car.
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Austin Harris: NASCAR's Appeal to Young People, the Rise of Podcasts, and How To Watch a Race
Kenny Wallace's friend, Austin Harris, is a 24-year-old car guy, racer, and NASCAR fan, but why are people like him so rare these days? Austin explains how he became a NASCAR fan and got into racing both as a driver and a crew member. Kenny and Austin talk about how NASCAR has changed the sport to appeal to younger fans, the rise of podcasts in NASCAR media, and how viewing habits differ across generations.
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A Clean Talladega Finish, Chipper Jones Goes Off On Joey Logano, & The Time Schrader Created His Own Caution
The “Missouri Mafia” break down Talladega's clean finish, the quality of racing on display, and all the other news coming out of NASCAR's trip to the largest track on the circuit. The fellas react to Atlanta Braves legend, Chipper Jones, calling out Joey Logano for his radio comments about his teammate Austin Cindric. And hear the hilarious story about the time Ken Schrader used a fire extinguisher to create his own caution.
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Ward Burton: The Great Outdoors, Crown Jewel Wins, & The State of NASCAR
What’s it like growing up in a racing family? Ward Burton & Kenny Wallace can both tell you a thing, two, or three about that. Ward describes what it was like being the big brother to Jeff & also now having a racing son in Jeb. Hear about Ward’s true passion, preserving our natural resources, and how he’s dedicated his life to that cause with his conservation foundation. Ward also takes us on the journey of his 2001 Southern 500 and 2002 Daytona 500 wins, two of NASCAR’s Crown Jewels. Plus, why Ward thinks the sport has gotten way too expensive for spon...
Our New Nickname & Turning Back Time With A Trip To Rockingham!
The St. Louis boys have a new nickname after their visit to Rockingham, where NASCAR fans were calling Herm & Schrader the “Missouri Mafia!” Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader detail their return to “The Rock” as NASCAR returned to Rockingham Speedway for the first time in more than 20 years. They discuss how it compares to other tracks NASCAR has returned to like North Wilkesboro and Bowman Gray Stadium. Plus, the fellas talk about how important it is to have perspective on crowd size relative to seating capacity. We wrap up with some fun stories about hard cards and security guards and share so...
Tony Stewart On His First NHRA Top Fuel Win, Being A New Dad, & His Two Biggest Regrets
The 100th Kenny Conversation guest is the same as the first, the one and only Tony Stewart, is fresh off his first-ever Top Fuel NHRA win over the weekend in Las Vegas! Stewart discusses what it's like being a dad for the first time and how he and his wife, Leah, balance racing and raising their son, Dominic. Plus, he reveals his two biggest regrets to Kenny and reflects on what he learned from each of them. Kenny Conversation #100 has all the smoke!
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Kyle Larson Dominates Bristol, the Dirt Racing Season kicks off, & Do NASCAR Fans Just Want A Demolition Derby?!
The St. Louis boys are back on the mics after a weekend where they both began their spring dirt racing season in Pevely, MO. Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader discuss Kyle Larson’s utter domination at Bristol and offer some perspective by comparing it to other historic runs throughout NASCAR history. Since fans didn’t seem to love the race, Schrader wonders if they just want to see a demolition derby? The fellas also discuss Jeff Gordon's executive role at Hendrick Motorsports and how it surprised Kenny Wallace. They also pay respect to one of the most beloved employees at HMS...
Kaylee Bryson: Making History On Asphalt & Dirt!
Kaylee Bryson is a dirt and pavement racing phenom. The 24-year-old has already made history being the first woman to ever qualify for the A-Main at the Chili Bowl. She’s also the first woman to ever win a USAC National Series race. She can drive all different types of cars on any surface...is NASCAR in her future?
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Two Throwbacks Talk NASCAR Throwback Weekend at Darlington!
The St. Louis boys are back and talkin' The Track Too Tough To Tame! William Byron dominates, Ryan Blaney gets robbed, and Denny Hamlin steals the win at Darlington. Plus, Michael Jordan gave some great sound bites over the weekend, and the fellas tell a great story of Schrader winning $100 off Wallace back in the day with a little in-race bet at Michigan.
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Clay Millican: Drag Racing Champion On Beating Tony Stewart, Dealing With Family Heartbreak, & Becoming A YouTuber!
Drag racing champion Clay Millican is full of stories and might be one of the few personalities in motorsports who can match the energy of Kenny Wallace. Clay discusses the euphoria he experienced when beating Tony Stewart over the weekend at Pomona, and the moment he shared with the NASCAR legend afterwards. He also recounts a heartfelt story about dealing with the loss of his son Dalton before going on to win his first-ever NHRA race on Father’s Day in his late son’s honor. The fellas wrap up by talking about the experience of running their own YouT...
The Xfinity Martinsville Mess, Denny Hamlin Hushes His Critics, & Are Race Car Numbers Irrelevant?!
Herm & Schrader are back together again! Kenny Wallace is fresh off his vacation cruise to the Bahamas while Ken Schrader is cruising in his motorhome in West Virginia. The fellas discuss the embarrassing NASCAR Xfinity series race finish at Martinsville & how the drivers involved can be punished and held accountable for their actions. Schrader has a controversial take that numbers don’t matter anymore on a race car and Wallace tells a great old school story about Jimmy Spencer’s Dad!
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Kyle Larson On Racing Every Type Of Car, Driver Pay Disparities, & His Career Longevity as a NASCAR Cup Driver
With Kyle Larson almost pulling off the triple at Homestead-Miami over the weekend, we thought it'd be a good time to go back into the Kenny Conversations vault. This discussion originally aired on 1/11/24, and has something for every type of race fan: dirt, pavement, you name it! Kyle Larson discusses how he sets up his complex season schedule, how some drivers aren’t making as much money as you think, and how long he sees himself racing in the NASCAR Cup Series. Hint, it might not be as long as you think! This Kenny Conversation with Kyle Larson is ch...
The Great Rick Mast Fills In For Herm, Swapping Classic NASCAR Stories, and Homestead-Miami Breakdown
Herm is on vacation this week, but don’t worry because Rick Mast fills in with Ken Schrader on this episode, and show producer Charlie Marlow pitches in too. Mast & Schrader share awesome old school NASCAR stories including: Mast's story of selling a cow to start his racing career, why didn’t Schrader remember wrecking Rick back in the day, and how old-school drivers dealt with the insufferable heat inside the cars. Plus, a breakdown of Kyle Larson’s win at Homestead-Miami and coming up just short of a full weekend sweep.
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Tyler "Terbo" Erb on His Nickname Origin, Keeping a Disciplined Race Shop, and Announcing His Father's Passing
There may be no more interesting man in the dirt racing scene than Tyler "Terbo" Erb. Kenny and Terbo cover it all: from his many colorful nicknames, his racing style, discipline in the shop, and how he handled his father's passing days before winning the Gateway Dirt Nationals. This is definitely an episode of Kenny Conversations you don't want to miss!
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Josh Berry's First Cup Series Win, Loose Lugs Wreak Havoc, & The Secret to Cheap Booze in Vegas!
The fellas are back with a breakdown of Josh Berry's breakout win in the NASCAR Cup Series at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Is this a sign of more things to come from NASCAR's oldest team? Why are so many teams struggling to secure the lug nuts on these Next Gen cars and can anything be done to stop it from happening going forward? And you don't wanna miss Wallace tell a story about how to secure cheap booze while out on the Vegas Strip!
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<...Jamie McMurray: Recounting his Crown Jewel Victories, Becoming a Racing Dad, and a Second Career in the TV Studio
What’s it like when a Daytona 500 & Brickyard 400 winner teaches his son how to race? Jamie McMurray's talented teenage son, Carter, might join the long list of multi-generation NASCAR families. Kenny and McMurray summarize his storied NASCAR career, spanning all three major series, and talk about some of the great memories they've shared at the FOX Sports Charlotte Studios, where NASCAR Race Hub was produced.
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Christopher Bell’s Dominance, Noteworthy NASCAR News, and Amy Earnhardt's Hilarious Dale Jr. Revelation
Herm & Schrader discuss a wild weekend at Phoenix where Goodyear's tires were the story. After securing his third straight Cup Series win, can other teams afford to overlook Christopher Bell as an early Championship favorite? The fellas also discuss the new developments in the 23XI & NASCAR lawsuit, Chase Briscoe's successful penalty appeal, and other top NASCAR storylines. And you won't believe what Wallace asks Schrader during a discussion about Bless Your 'Hardt, the latest original show from Dirty Mo Media, starring Dale Jr. and his wife Amy.
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Hermie Sadler: From All Racing To All Business
Hermie Sadler has done it all: NASCAR racer, successful businessman, and an almost politician. On the latest episode of Kenny Conversations, two old racing & TV buddies reconnect! Kenny Wallace & Hermie Sadler shared countless battles on track over the years but also did TV together at FOX Sports. Hear all the crazy stories involving these two iconic racing personalities as they break it all down on the mics once again.
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Clean Racing at COTA, Jimmie Johnson's Underappreciated Accomplishments, & Rusty Wallace Makes A Cameo
The fellas break down the good, hard, and clean race at COTA over the weekend. Is this a turning point for the Cup Series? Wallace was in Austin, Texas, for the race, and talks about his plane flight with NASCAR executives while on his way to Daytona for "Bike Week". Herm & Schrader also discuss a recent point made by Kyle Petty: is NASCAR Hall of Famer Jimmie Johnson's streak of five consecutive championships the most underrated record in all of sports? Finally, Herm's older brother, Rusty Wallace, makes a quick cameo on the show letting Herm know that it’s...
Irish Saunders Sheds Light on the NASCAR Tire Wars and Chasing a Dream at Hoosier Tire
Irish Saunders, the man who ran the racing division at Hoosier Tires for 43 years, joins Kenny for the latest edition of Kenny Conversations. Hear incredible stories about watching Jeff Gordon & Tony Stewart race at a young age, the infamous NASCAR tire wars in the '80s & '90s, and how Hoosier dedicated themselves to getting a driver in victory lane for the inaugural Brickyard 400.
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Carson Hocevar's Atlanta Antics & NASCAR's Caution Inconsistencies
The dynamic St. Louis duo brings the heat discussing a chilly NASCAR weekend in Atlanta. Kenny Wallace was in attendance Sunday, and describes the vibe at a track that's quickly become one of the most exciting stops on the schedule. The fellas debate if Carson Hocevar's Atlanta antics went too far, along with NASCAR's decision to throw a caution on the final lap, prioritizing driver safety, but robbing fans of a three-wide finish.
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Danica Patrick On Her Life & Career in Motorsports
Danica Patrick joins and gives us a glimpse into her career in IndyCar, NASCAR, and broadcast TV covering F1. The most successful female racer of all-time, Patrick describes how she got her start at a young age living in Illinois and how her Dad influenced her driving career. There isn't a topic off the table in this must-listen edition of Kenny Conversations!
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The Great American Wreck-fest
Ken & Kenny are both back in St. Louis and break down all the biggest moments from the 67th annual running of the Daytona 500. Did Joey Logano's impatience cause 'The Big One' with 15 to go and was Jeff Gordon right for calling Logano out post-race? How important was JR Motorsports' Top-10 finish with Justin Allgaier, and will we see Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s team in the Cup garage again soon? The fellas discuss the mandatory fuel-saving strategies that played out and how on earth William Byron managed to squeak through that overtime melee and become the 5th back-to-back Daytona 500 winner i...
Get To Know Legendary Racer “Mad Dog” Mark Miner
Legendary driver, “Mad Dog” Mark Miner, joins the latest episode of Kenny Conversations to talk about his roots growing up racing with Ken Schrader & the Wallace brothers around St. Louis. Miner shares stories with Kenny about his time racing in Georgia and how he started a successful towing company after moving back to St. Louis to start his post-racing career. Plus, hear about the time "Mad Dog" beat Schrader head-to-head in a race and how they shared a laugh afterwards!
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Is NASCAR For Sale & Going Global?
With one Kenny back in St. Louis while the other one is still racing down in Florida, the fellas discuss some monumental news: NASCAR is open to selling an equity stake & considering a faster rollout of global expansion! Does this mean the end of NASCAR as we know it? Plus, Herm & Schrader recap Christopher Bell and Kyle Larson's battle in the World of Outlaws feature at Volusia. A debate ensues on the pros/cons of having Cup Series drivers competing at lower levels of motorsports.
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Mike Harrison: Chasing Championships With Family-First Racing
One of the greatest dirt modified racers of all-time, Mike Harrison, joins Kenny Wallace on the latest edition of Kenny Conversations. Hear the story of how a simple farmer during the week turns into a championship driver on the weekends. No matter how many wins and championships he racks up over his illustrious career, for Harrison, family always comes first. His success is even more remarkable considering his ongoing battle with chronic back & neck pain. Mike may be one of the few people who can out-talk Kenny; you don’t want to miss this episode!
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NASCAR’s Triumphant Return to Bowman Gray, Wallace Drives on the German Autobahn, & Dirt Racing Is Rolling
The St. Louis boys are back after a two-week hiatus...but they’re not in St. Louis! Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader are both down in Florida racing at Volusia for the Dirt Car Nationals. The fellas break down an awesome kickoff weekend for NASCAR with "The Clash” at Bowman Gray Stadium. Wallace discusses all the awesome details of his European vacation; including visits to Vatican City, Ferrari, & Lamborghini. He also shares his experience cruising at 150+ mph on the German Autobahn! Plus, they highlight all the hottest dirt racing storylines. Herm & Schrader are back so let’s go racing!
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Mark Martin’s Travels, Appreciating Larry Phillips, & Remembering Scott Bloomquist
NASCAR Hall of Famer, Mark Martin, joins to discuss his love for travel & American history as he drives around the country in his RV. Kenny gets Mark's take on why Larry Phillips isn't in the NASCAR Hall of Fame, and what made the late, great Scott Bloomquist tick? You don’t want to miss this Kenny Conversation with Mark “The Kid” Martin that originally aired 8/21/24.
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A More Mature Kyle Busch?! “Rowdy” Talks Family, Racing Roots, & His NASCAR Legacy
Once the most hated man in NASCAR, Kyle Busch joins Kenny Conversations to discuss how he’s matured after marriage & fatherhood. Kyle & Kenny debate NASCAR's racing product today compared to the past, diagnose why Kyle isn’t running as well with Richard Childress Racing, and discuss how Kyle sees his NASCAR career coming to an end. Plus, what's the career trajectory of his prodigal son, Brexton, and will we ever see the father/son duo competing together on the same track?
This classic “Kenny Conversation” which originally aired 4/10/24 is a must listen for “Rowdy” fans and motorsports fans in general!<...
Holly Cain: Overcoming Cancer, Writing Books, & Covering NASCAR For 30 Years
Holly Cain is used to telling stories, not being the story. That changes today in the latest edition of Kenny Conversations. Hear from the longtime motorsports reporter as she describes her journey overcoming cancer while also being a pioneer in the NASCAR journalism industry. From IndyCar to Formula 1 to NASCAR, hear Holly explain what it’s like to cover it all. Plus, we learn about some of her hidden talents that you probably didn’t know about. You don’t want to miss “Kenny Conversations” with Holly Cain.
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True Racing Heroes: Andy Petree & Matt McSwain On Flying Helicopter Relief Missions To Western North Carolina
One of the best Kenny Conversations yet. Two former NASCAR Crew Chiefs share how they helped bring the community together to help western North Carolina after it was ravaged by Hurricane Helene. Andy Petree & Matt McSwain used military precision to operate a helicopter relief effort that saved lives and helped folks rebuild. Their stories will break your heart and also give you hope. For the latest Herm & Schrader gear, go to shop.dirtymomedia.com
Amy Earnhardt On Her Texas Roots, How She Met Dale Earnhardt Jr. & Being a High Profile Mom
Amy Earnhardt discusses what it was like growing up as Amy Reimann, a cheerleader in Texas, studying interior design at the University of Kentucky & how she met Dale Earnhardt Jr. as a young professional.
Who made the first move? How did Dale Jr. propose? Who wins the most arguments around the house?
Amy Earnhardt gives you a great behind-the-scenes look at what it’s like being inside the Earnhardt household in this episode of “Kenny Conversations.”
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NASCAR's New Rules, Chili Bowl Preview, and Youth vs. Experience On Track
Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader recap all the new rules announced by NASCAR, including the 'Open Exemption Provisional' allowing for one “world-class driver” to enter a NASCAR race without fear of missing the field. Plus, the fellas preview the upcoming 39th annual Chili Bowl Nationals and discuss how it's become such a big deal attracting big-name superstars. And a debate ensues on whether youth or experience has the upper hand on track during a race.
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The Rodney Childers Playbook: Winning in NASCAR and Life
Rodney Childers started as a successful driver but found his true calling on top of the pit box as a championship-winning crew chief. The journey wasn’t easy—tragedies in the sport played a pivotal role in steering him from the driver’s seat to leading some of NASCAR’s biggest teams.
Rodney dives deep into his time working with Kevin Harvick, overcoming challenges like constant ownership changes, and navigating his way through multiple NASCAR organizations.
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NASCAR’s Legal Drama, Mike Wallace’s Bold Daytona 500 Bid, And A Tulsa Shootout for the Books
Herm & Schrader Are Back to Kick-Off 2025!
The St. Louis boys are back in action! Fresh off the holiday break, Herm and Schrader dive headfirst into the biggest stories in racing. From the ongoing NASCAR lawsuit drama to Kenny Wallace’s brother Mike taking on the bold challenge of qualifying for the Daytona 500 at 65 years old—nothing is off the table.
Motorsports never hit the brakes, even in winter. Herm and Schrader break down the epic Tulsa Shootout finish between Kyle Larson and Christopher Bell and shine a light on NASCAR’s next generation, with the kids o...
Kenny Conversations: Dirt Racing Hall of Famer & Track Owner Kevin Gundaker
Kevin Gundaker takes us on a ride through his incredible dirt racing journey, blending speed, grit, and family legacy. From tearing up go-kart tracks as a kid to earning his spot in the Hall of Fame, Kevin opens up about the thrills of racing, the love story with his wife Tammy, and the challenges that shaped him—like a life-altering motorcycle accident that changed his outlook on everything. Now the proud owner of Tri-City Speedway, Gundaker reflects on his health battles, the Gundaker family legacy, and the unshakable passion that drives him to keep pushing forward. This is...
NASCAR Charters In Limbo & Ken Schrader Sells His Race Track
The St. Louis boys are back with another episode! Kenny Wallace & Ken Schrader tackle all the top racing topics, including the Stewart-Haas charters being in limbo due to the ongoing lawsuit, NASCAR shaking up the schedule by heading to Mexico City, and shifting the race at Gateway into the Playoffs. Kenny gets the scoop on Schrader selling the Federated Auto Parts Raceway at I-55 in Pevely, Missouri, and the fellas wrap it up with their takes on current events involving Caitlin Clark & Taylor Swift!
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Racing Roots and Family Values: Katelyn Larson Keeps It Real
Katelyn Larson takes us behind the scenes of her life in this episode of Kenny Conversations. From managing the chaos of three kids to supporting her husband Kyle Larson and learning from her brother Brad Sweet, Katelyn opens up about balancing it all with grit and grace. She shares unforgettable moments, like crossing paths with Michael Jordan, and dives into the highs and lows of life as a NASCAR wife. Whether it’s traveling to Italy, navigating fame, or cheering on her son Owen’s budding racing dreams, Katelyn keeps it real, proving there’s always more to the story than m...
Hailie Deegan’s Indy NXT Gamble & How Kenny Wallace Won Over the Dirt Track Crowd
Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader are back and as fired-up as ever in episode five! The dynamic duo dives into their favorite NASCAR tracks of all time, debates Hailie Deegan’s shot at success in the Indy NXT series, and explains why tech inspection can make or break the Snowball Derby. They also tackle the fan frenzy around the Gateway Dirt Nationals in St. Louis.
Kenny opens up about showing up at the dirt track solo and how local racers weren’t exactly rolling out the welcome mat when he transitioned from NASCAR to dirt racing. Meanwhile, Schr...
