Drum and Drummer
Join Ben and George every week as they delve deep into discussions about drums, drumming and drummers. They chat about everything from first kits to worst gigs, drumming tips to drum sticks and everything in between. Welcome to the disarray of two mates passing the time, whilst trying to stay in time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Did Dubai Anything?
George is back from Dubai! He missed Ben so much a Zoom call wasn’t enough so he darted straight round to Little Piggy Studios. After what can only be described as ‘a long hug’ it seemed a sensible idea to set up some mics and record this week’s episode in person. So turn off Chum, put your Rubik's Cube down, hit play and hear all about George’s gig in Dubai. Enjoy!
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I Need To Do A Little Bit Of Everything (Ollie Harding - The Shires)
It was a pleasure to be joined by Ollie Harding this week. With a final tour with The Shires coming up we looked back at his 12 years with the band, how moving to Manchester got him started in the session world and doing anything to avoid playing the cajon. We also discussed dealing with cancelled tours, being financially sensible, the merits of going to university and Ollie gives us the secrets of playing on TV for James Blunt. Enjoy!
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The Essence Of Drumming (Bob Wynne - Bob's Drum School)
This week we had a lovely chat with Bob Wynne! As well as teaching up to 80 kids a week in schools Bob also runs Bob’s Drum School, a private teaching studio based in Rotherham. Alongside teaching 6 days a week Bob also plays gigs and is heavily involved at the UK Drum Show. We chat about his teaching setup, his dislike of mini burgers and moving to Denmark for 6 months to join the circus. Enjoy!
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Επόμενη στάση Πανεπιστήμιο
On this week’s show we hear all about Ben’s holiday in Athens from a shaky start to visiting the Acropolis and sipping on some crisp, cold Alfas. George has bought a big ride cymbal and finally got his ear on the mend. Enjoy!
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Arm To Wrist To Finger
Ben’s in Greece on holiday so we recorded this episode in advance. George is working hard on his finger technique and Ben has been prepping for his first dep gig in a while. Enjoy!
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Bored Of Getting Infected
George is still fighting his infected ear and resisted temptation at Graham Russell Drums. Ben’s off to Greece and went to see his old band, Oxygen Thief, play in Bristol. Enjoy!
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Gladys, Check Out The Pop On This
Support George and support the ‘no-burp petition’! While Ben talks about his grip and prep for an upcoming dep gig George has ended his summer run of gigs with a windy performance on Eastbourne bandstand and has parted ways with his childhood cymbals. Enjoy!
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Not A Dry Eye In The House
Bad ears and good eyes are first on the agenda this week but which one of us has a swollen ear and which one has the eyes of a fighter pilot? George steals some sticks from Newcastle and Ben has set up his mega kit with the Yamaha Hexrack and reskinned all 6 toms. We also discuss what’s the minimum info required to say yes to a gig. Enjoy!
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The Fat Doosh
While Ben’s been pushing back on rumours about his mum’s demise, George has been back on the road up to Scotland via Birmingham and Newcastle and invested in some drum mics. Ben has finally completed his Yamaha Stage Custom mega kit thanks to the guys at Rubix Drums in London (and no thanks to James Gillingham). Enjoy!
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The Big Green Elephant
On this week’s show we’re talking playing football with the ‘bigger boys’, Ben’s new sofa has arrived and George has played a gig at another castle. Ben also came home with a load of free drum gear from the tip and George has got the bug to add more toms to his kit. Also the new single from Archie Mac featuring Ben on drums, trombone and trumpet is out now (link below). Enjoy!
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No Tape
After a little dig at the nerds from Q.I. George tells us about his best gig ever including setting up his kit on a wheeled drum riser. We’ve also both been busy with wedding gigs featuring walking in on someone taking a shit and a groom with an upcoming court case. Enjoy!
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I Absolutely Love Cheeses (Kurt Phillips)
This week we are joined by the awesome Kurt Phillips! Not everything is plain sailing as a drummer as Kurt tells us about toilet emergencies during Panto and playing a show with kidney stones. We also chat about studying at ACM, his love of hybrid rudiments and creating a monster of a set up for his work with Wyse. There’s also auditioning to be the Milky Bar Kid and getting a tattoo in an unusual place. Enjoy!
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Full Beans
George tells us about the highs of playing at BOXPARK Wembley and the lows of being ill and having a panic attack at a festival in Aberdeen. Ben tells us what he loves at a gig and his former childhood home is on the market. Enjoy!
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If It Does Go Wrong It Goes Really Wrong (Jacob Andrews - Profiler)
This week we are joined by the fantastic Mr. Jacob Andrews! He has been tearing up the stages with his nu-metal revival band Profiler along with lots of session work and in quite the contrast an ABBA tribute band! We chat about playing open handed, diving into jazz and traditional grip and his recent trip to the studio to record three new Profiler songs. Enjoy!
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A Full Gambit Of Tom Toms
Ben’s been to Bognor Regis to pick up an 8” Yamaha Stage Custom tom he found on eBay and George has finally discovered dynamics ;) We also chat about the added pressures of friends and family attending gigs and drumming bad habits. Enjoy!
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All Gut And Tit
Ben’s been busy in the studio playing drums and trombone for a few artists and George managed to complete a double gig day on Saturday playing two festivals despite one house kit not having a drum mat. Tut tut. We also chat a fair bit about exercise as Ben ups his efforts after being in his words ‘fucked’ during a gig a few weeks back. Enjoy!
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The Boy Who Cried Golf
On this week’s show there’s some big magpie news, find out how Ben navigated his gig and the England game and George had a double gig day thrown into chaos by car trouble. Enjoy!
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King Of Midfield
Come on England! We’re both a bit tired after staying up to watch England VS Mexico and an early start for Ben on Monday for his MOT didn’t help matters. We also talk about George’s gigs with the ‘Lainey Lot’ in the Midlands, navigating England VS Norway on Saturday as we both have gigs and Ben’s clients making things even more difficult by not wanting half the band's repertoire. Enjoy!
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All Dried Up
On this week’s episode we’re talking cats, getting someone else’s blood on your cymbals and navigating gigs when England is playing. Enjoy!
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I Am The Event
George has had a busy few days playing the Isle Of Wight Festival (supported by The Cure) then up to Cambridge to play some summer balls with an ABBA tribute band with some ridiculous stage times. Ben drops some celebrity interactions and takes a trip on the M25 plus there’s a magpie update. Enjoy!
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Chill The Pipes
We’ve got some more listener correspondence about dealing with sound limiters and Ben’s been watching almost all of the World Cup. George went to Cambridge for the weekend to play a festival but the highlight wasn’t spending time with his girlfriend, it was bumping into Big John! Enjoy and bosh!
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Just Eat
Ben’s not dead! He just had a very important phone call and due to that we recorded this week’s episode in person at Little Piggy Studios. George has been to the dentist and there’s another dead bird on Ben’s property. We also talk about George’s struggles with a sound limiter and his good festival gigs and Ben being asked to perform a very unreasonable request at a wedding. Enjoy!
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Life Is A Belt
We start this week’s episode with a cracking listener email and George tells about his recent run of festivals; from crappy hardware, chicken wing eating contests to being on the jumbo screen. Ben’s had some tricky logistics, lots of driving and witnessed some drama at the van hire place. Enjoy!
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Top Off, Ice Lolly In Mouth
On this week’s show we’re talking about care homes, an unforgivable error at a wedding gig, 48 minutes of Sleep Token, blocking a French toilet and meeting a secret Olympian. Enjoy!
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The Curious Case Of The Headless Pigeon
George is back from completing his Iron Man in Mallorca, Ben took a birthday trip to Graham Russell Drums for some new hi hats and he also found something rather unexpected in his back garden. Enjoy!
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Iron Boy
We’ve recorded this episode in advance as George is in Mallorca doing another Iron Man! We chat about his last gig of the ‘tour’ in Lowestoft, what he learnt doing two sets a night plus an impromptu jam with a pizza delivery guy while shooting a promo video. Enjoy!
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I Get It
This week it’s Ben’s turn to head up to Newcastle for a friend’s wedding. From busy KFCs, getting locked out of his room, big grassy breasts, a few Guinni and trying not to be in ‘function band mode’ there’s plenty of good stuff for your ears. Congrats to Jamie and Paula! Enjoy!
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I'm The One Policing The Purchase In The Drum Shop
George has been up north for some more Lainey shows in Newcastle and Edinburgh where they stayed at a Go Ape, walked up a big hill and he had a slightly clumsy walk onto the stage. Ben’s found a drum he’s been looking for for 12 years and has finally ditched the jeans for gigs. Enjoy!
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The Day The Music Died
Is this the day the music died? Ben is questioning his gigging career after playing a surprise wedding which didn’t exactly go to plan and George gigged in central London battling parking and meeting ladies with disco balls for heads. Enjoy!
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Battery Police
On this week’s show we talk about recession proof biscuits, cooking meat, batteries and after a long, and final, chat about what constitutes a tour we decide to form the ‘Tour Police’. George runs us through his recent gigs in Southampton and Liverpool, Ben’s added more charts to DRUMCHARTS.CO.UK and asks will George ever be in an originals band again? Enjoy!
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I Can't Keep Playing This Drum Beat
We start this week's episode with some listener drummer pet peeves before talking about Ben’s first Wonder Year gig of 2026. George has started his “tour” with the Lainey Wilson Experience but if one show isn’t enough he’s also in the backing band for the headliner; it’s all going well but he did have to go to Swansea. We also chat about paying for parking while drumming and has Ben found the bargain of the year at Graham Russell Drums? Enjoy!
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Un Croissant De Xocolata Blanca
Ben’s been to Barcelona on a stag do and put his new spine through its paces, sightseeing, playing escape rooms and maybe consuming the odd pina colada. We also have a good chat about going up and down the drumming ‘ladder’, looking back and forward at your career and appreciating your achievements. Enjoy!
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Ride Cymbals Are Too Thick
George took it easy this weekend with just two gigs and a 50 mile bike ride. Ben had his first gig back after spinal surgery playing in front of UK metalcore legends Bury Tomorrow and despite a sound limiter, a crashing iPad and some discomfort it went well. Inspired by a Reddit post we also talk about drumming pet peeves. Enjoy!
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Bell Bottom Georgie
George had a busy weekend gigging in the Midlands with two different tribute acts and eating too many burgers. We also chat about custom kick skins and whilst they’re great, they can make life hard when playing for multiple acts. Ben introduces his new kitten, Pearl, how to add some spice to watching University Challenge and a mystery accident in his pants. Enjoy!
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I Was At My Breaking Point (Alex Ballew - ERRA)
This week we are joined by the awesome Alex Ballew from the band ERRA. Formed in Birmingham, Alabama, ERRA are mainstays in the metalcore scene and have just released their seventh album ‘Silence Outlives The Earth’ on 6th March 2026. With a 32 date US tour starting the same day Alex was kind enough to take a break from pre-tour rehearsals to chat to us about prepping for tour, recording the new album, double kick technique, why he doesn’t use triggers live and much more. Enjoy!
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My Nipples Were Bleeding
After a quick chat about quadruple strength squash George recounts yet another completed half marathon but why didn’t he just go faster? While his bleeding nipples recover we also chat about a gig in Dubai that might not happen and a tour of Australia and New Zealand that didn’t happen. Enjoy!
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Lowestoft Is A Strange Place
While Ben recently had major surgery on his spine, George had the more painful experience of going to Lowestoft for a gig. We also talk about line dancing in odd time signatures, pasta portion control, bowel accidents at Center Parcs plus some lovely listener correspondence. Enjoy!
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Brighton Drumming Badges
Ben updates us on his recovery from surgery and George has been picking up more ‘Brighton Drumming Badges’ by playing Molly Malones on Valentine’s Day. There’s also some lovely spreadsheet chat, playing darts with Gabi King and drumming technique… or lack of in some cases. Enjoy!
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The Lord's Yoghurt
On this week’s show Ben runs us through his time at the hospital having spinal surgery and how recovery is going. George has been optimising his drum kits and did the best gig he’s ever done. Enjoy!
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A Quick In And Out
We recorded this episode last week as Ben is recovering from his back surgery. We chat about the eventful pre-op tests which involved surprise cotton bud usage and watching Ben’s surgeon on BBC iPlayer. There’s also reminiscing as the Three Day Benda album turns 20 and people we mention on the show are recognised for being mentioned on the show. Enjoy!
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