The Sort
Hop into the ring with The Sort, the podcast offering both a historical and forward-looking exploration of the world of livestock judges. The goal of The Sort is designed to support, engage, mentor, and advance the future leaders of the livestock industry. In each episode, we invite guests to share their personal journeys, visions, and enthusiasm for the livestock industry. These individuals bring unique perspectives, enriching our program with their real-world experiences of challenges and successes that have shaped them into the leaders the are today.
#101: REVISIT - Jim McCoy
This episode is a re-release of episode #67 of The Sort podcast, originally released on February 16th, 2026.
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Jim McCoy, a respected leader in the swine industry known for his work with purebred and show hogs. Jim shares his journey from growing up on a commercial hog farm in Ohio to becoming a renowned judge and breeder, highlighting the mentors who guided him. He discusses overcoming challenges, the importance of perseverance, and his transition into consulting after selling his farm. Jim emphasizes the value of community, mentorship, and integrity in livestock shows...
#100: Brady Jensen
Brady Jensen started his coaching job at South Dakota State with just four students—and no time to recruit. He built the program into a national contender, with teams reaching reserve national champion at Louisville, before leaving to return to his family’s Hereford and Angus operation in Kansas. In this conversation with Dr. Brett Kaysen, Jensen reflects on learning to judge by listening to visiting coaches at his family’s barn, coaching students who had barely judged before, and the advice he wishes he’d understood as a competitor: master the tools, then learn to control your mindset. He also...
#99: REVISIT - Tom Farrer
This episode is a re-release of episode #59 of The Sort podcast, originally released on December 22nd, 2025.
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Brett Kaysen talks with Tom Farrer, a renowned livestock breeder and judge from Indiana. Tom shares insights from his multi-generational family operation, his experiences in 4-H, and his journey judging at major shows nationwide. He discusses the importance of independent thinking, adapting to industry changes, and maintaining high standards in both breeding and evaluation. Tom emphasizes the value of youth development, family legacy, and staying true to one’s ideals—offering practical advice and...
#98: Dr. Jason Ross
In this episode of The Sort, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Dr. Jason Ross, Department Head of Animal Sciences at Iowa State University. Dr. Ross shares his journey from growing up on an Iowa farm to becoming a faculty member and department head at Iowa State, with stops at Oklahoma State and the University of Missouri. He discusses his passion for swine reproductive physiology, his strong support for livestock judging programs as high-impact practices that build critical thinking and leadership skills, and the launch of an exciting new degree program focused on precision technology, business, and data analytics within...
#97: REVISIT - Hadley Broadwater and Skyler Ward
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Hadley Broadwater first released on June 29th, 2026 and the interview with Skyler Ward first aired on May 4th, 2026.
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Hadley Broadwater and Skyler Ward.
Hadley, from Indiana, shares her journey from showing swine and sheep to pursuing a master's degree in reproductive physiology, crediting mentorship and Iowa State's supportive community. She also emphasizes hard work, mentorship, and the invaluable experiences gained...
#96: Steve Gabel
In this episode of The Sort, host Dr. Brett Kaysen sits down with Steve Gabel, a Colorado-based cattle feeder, entrepreneur, and longtime livestock judging coach. Steve shares his journey from growing up on a farm in Fort Lupton to building Magnum Feed Yards into a 36,000-head operation. He reflects on his college judging career at CSU, his 21 years coaching Weld County's 4-H judging team to nine state titles, and his commitment to hosting teams at his feed yard. Steve also candidly discusses overcoming a serious injury in 1999 and the values of integrity, hard work, and giving back that have...
#95: REVISIT - Jack Habjan and Mason Allen
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Jack Habjan first released on May 4th, 2026 and the interview with Mason Allan first aired on May 25th, 2026.
Jack Habjan, from Linwood, Kansas, shares his journey from sports announcing dreams to pursuing ruminant nutrition at Texas Tech, with plans for graduate studies at the University of Arkansas. He also shares memorable experiences from the Top Judge program and offers inspiring insights on perseverance, mentorship, and career growth.
Mason Allan, from Schulenburg, Texas...
#94: Kayla Rathmann
In this episode, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Kayla Rathmann from Texas Tech University's Department of Animal and Food Sciences. Kayla shares her West Texas roots, her family's deep ties to agriculture and livestock judging, and her unexpected path into academic advising. She reflects on Texas Tech's remarkable growth from 368 to 1,500 students over 20 years, crediting strong leadership, faculty, and alumni support. Kayla discusses her mentorship philosophy, evolving student demographics, and the enduring value of judging programs. She also opens up about personal hardships that shaped her resilience and faith, offering heartfelt advice for students and parents navigating agricultural education...
#93: REVISIT - Chyanne Emmerson and Jackson Tarrance
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Chyann Emerson first released on April 13th, 2026 and the interview with Jackson Tarrance first aired on April 20th, 2026.
Chyann Emmerson, from Tuttle, Oklahoma, shares how a soccer injury redirected her toward livestock judging, ultimately leading her to a national championship and internships with pork industry organizations. She reflects on teamwork, building confidence, communication skills, and the lasting relationships forged through competitive livestock judging.
Jackson Tarrance, from Welling, Oklahoma, shares his journey from...
#92: Jerry Reid
In this episode of The Sort, host Dr. Brett Kaysen welcomes Jerry (J.R.) Reid—elite hog breeder, livestock evaluator, 20-year NCAA basketball referee, and Missouri State Fair superintendent. J.R. shares his family's multi-generational hog breeding legacy dating back to the 1940s, highlighting how foundational evaluation terminology remains relevant today. He draws compelling parallels between refereeing and livestock judging, emphasizing professionalism, consistency, and giving full effort at every event—large or small. J.R. also reflects on career pivots, resilience, and the work ethic instilled by his farming roots, leaving listeners with timeless advice: your word is your bond...
#91: REVISIT - Dr. John Edwards
This episode is a re-release of episode #39 of The Sort podcast, originally released on August 4th, 2025.
This week, we are excited to sit down for a conversation with a legend of the industry: Dr. John Edwards, whose 50-year career as a livestock judge included judging every major steer show in the county as well as serving as the official judge for eight national beef breed shows. He also judged cattle in eight foreign countries on four continents.
#90: Jennifer Cannon and Ernie Barnes
In this episode, Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Jennifer Cannon, Competitive Events Director at the Iowa State Fair, and volunteer swine superintendent Ernie Barnes. Jennifer shares her 18-year journey managing 40,000 annual entries across diverse competitions, from livestock to food. Ernie discusses his 20-plus years volunteering in the swine barn. Together, they explore what makes the Iowa State Fair unique, including its park-like historic fairgrounds, strong community spirit, and ongoing barn renovations. They also highlight the importance of balancing tradition with innovation and discuss their support for the Top Judge program in developing future livestock judges.
#89: Glen Martin
In this episode of The Sort Podcast, Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Glen Martin, a respected multi-species livestock expert from Mason, Texas. Glen traces his journey from growing up in a diversified ranching family with deep Texas roots, to competing in FFA judging teams at Texas A&M, to managing a 6,500-acre operation today. He shares candid stories about teamwork, humility, and mentorship, emphasizing that helping young people is his God-given purpose. Grounded in Christian faith, Glen reflects on overcoming droughts and personal challenges, ultimately expressing his desire to be remembered for planting seeds of faith and growth within the...
#88: Bryson Stone and Dillon Prokop
In this episode of The Sort, host Dr. Kaysen sits down with two Texas A&M University students, Bryson Stone and Dillon Prokop, to discuss their journeys in agriculture and livestock judging. Bryson, raised on a cotton farm near Lubbock, shares how resilience, diverse experiences, and strong mentorship shaped his path in agribusiness. Dillon, from Llano's Texas Hill Country, reflects on his unexpected shift from engineering to animal science and his plans to pursue a master's degree in meat science. Both students emphasize the lasting value of relationships, mentorship, and embracing opportunities within the livestock judging community.
#87: Nathaniel Gaul and Joscelyn Layman
In this episode of the Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews Nathaniel Gaul (Iowa State University) and Joscelyn Layman (Michigan State University), both participants in the Top Judge program—a transitional initiative helping senior collegiate livestock judges move into professional roles. Nathaniel shares his journey from a northeast Iowa farm to securing a grain merchandising career, while Joscelyn discusses her path toward veterinary school. Both reflect on memorable contest experiences at Louisville and San Antonio, the value of mentorship, and lessons learned through livestock judging. They offer thoughtful advice to aspiring judges about integrity, relationships, and embracing the jo...
#86: Caden Schwab, Kade Mennen, Tucker Woods
In this episode of "The Sort" podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews three collegiate livestock judging competitors. Caden Schwab from Fort Collins, Colorado, discusses growing up as a coach's son, his journey from Connors State to the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, and his plans to pursue a finance master's degree in Texas. Kade Mennen from Indiana shares his path through Lincoln Land Community College to Iowa State, balancing farming with academics. Tucker Woods from Mississippi details his unique turfgrass management major at Mississippi State. All three discuss the Top Judge program, favorite contests, and offer advice encouraging youth to embrace...
#85: Hadley Broadwater and Kaitlyn Zeedyk
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen interviews two Iowa State University students, Hadley Broadwater and Kaitlyn Zeedyk, both deeply involved in livestock judging and animal science. Hadley, from Indiana, shares her journey from showing swine and sheep to pursuing a master's degree in reproductive physiology, crediting mentorship and Iowa State's supportive community. Kaitlyn, from Ohio, discusses her path from a grain and sheep farm to a nutrition and sales career, highlighting how livestock judging built her confidence and communication skills. Both guests emphasize hard work, mentorship, and the invaluable experiences gained through the Top...
#84: Alexandra Duckworth and Kellum Carnahan
In this episode of the Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen sits down with two standout collegiate livestock judges: Alexandra Duckworth from the University of Tennessee and Kellum Carnahan from Kansas State University. Alexandra shares her passion for beef cattle genetics and genomics, her journey from aspiring veterinarian to future academic researcher, and her experience in the Top Judge program. Kellum discusses his ranching roots in Wyoming and Colorado, his development as a judge, and his aspirations to coach and eventually expand his family's seedstock operation. Both guests offer inspiring perspectives on mentorship, personal growth, and careers in agriculture.<...
#83: Kylie Kunzler and Blane Warnken
In this episode of The Sort, powered by Primo Feeds, host Dr. Brett Kaysen features two Texas A&M University students from the Top Judge program. Kylie Kunzler, raised on a commercial cow-calf operation in rural Utah, shares her journey from Butler County Community College to Texas A&M, crediting key mentors and encouraging youth to bet on themselves. Blane Warnken, a first-generation college student from Schulenburg, Texas, reflects on his family's registered Hereford operation and his path through Blinn College to Texas A&M. Both students highlight the value of mentorship, hard work, and the unique networking opportunities...
#82: Luke Raudebaugh and Savannah Page
In this episode of The Sort podcast, powered by Primo Feeds, host Brett Kaysen interviews two Kansas State University livestock judging team members. Luke Raudebaugh, from Ohio, shares his background in sheep production, his journey through Casper College, and his plans to manage a club lamb operation post-graduation. Savannah Page, from Georgia, discusses her family's swine operation, her extensive experience with the National Junior Swine Association, and her aspirations in the swine industry. Both guests highlight the invaluable life skills, mentorships, and connections gained through collegiate livestock judging.
#81: Bradie Midcap and Mason Allan
In this episode of the Sort podcast, host Brett Kaysen interviews Bradie Midcap and Mason Allan, two Texas Tech University students passionate about livestock judging and the cattle industry. Bradie, from Ray, Colorado, shares her journey from a Simmental cow-calf operation to pursuing a master's degree in ruminant nutrition at Kansas State University. Mason, from Schulenburg, Texas, discusses his family's Hereford operation and plans for a master's degree at Texas Tech while assistant coaching the judging team. Both highlight the Top Judge program's value and encourage young 4-H and FFA members to embrace livestock judging's opportunities.
#80: Megan Zipprich and Lexi Hunt
In this episode of The Sort, host Brett Kaysen welcomes two outstanding collegiate livestock judges and Top Judge program members: Megan Zipprich from Penn State and Lexi Hunt from Texas Tech. Megan shares her journey from rural Pennsylvania to committing to Purdue's DVM program, her passion for serving agricultural communities, and her love of judging contests like the All-East and Blue Dragon Classic. Lexi, from Buckeye, Arizona, discusses her path through South Plains College to Texas Tech, her evolving career goals, and her philosophy of giving back to youth in the show ring. Both highlight the Top Judge program...
#79: Kinsey Gardner and Blake Janssen
In this episode of the Sort podcast, host Dr. Brett Kaysen sits down with two Texas Tech University livestock judging team members, Kinsey Gardner and Blake Janssen. Kinsey shares her journey from Gatesville, Texas, balancing softball and judging before pursuing a CPA career specializing in farm and ranch accounting. Blake, raised in Amber, Oklahoma, discusses his deep-rooted passion for cattle and plans to work in cattle genetics post-graduation. Both students reflect on the impact of mentorship, the Top Judge program, and Texas Tech's faculty, offering inspiring advice on relationships, integrity, and embracing challenges to grow as agricultural professionals and...
#78: Jack Habjan and Skyler Ward
This episode of The Sort podcast, powered by Primo Feeds, features interviews with Jack Habjan and Skyler Ward, two rising stars in collegiate livestock judging and animal science. Jack, from Linwood, Kansas, shares his journey from sports announcing dreams to pursuing ruminant nutrition at Texas Tech, with plans for graduate studies at the University of Arkansas. Skyler, from New Paris, Ohio, discusses her livestock judging family roots, her time at Kansas State University, and upcoming graduate work in pet food nutrition. Both share memorable experiences from the Top Judge program and offer inspiring insights on perseverance, mentorship, and career...
#77: Paige Lemenager and Colt Blacklock
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Brett Kaysen interviews two agriculture students passionate about livestock judging. Paige Lemenager, from Texas Tech University, shares her journey from aspiring veterinarian to future agricultural attorney, focusing on estate planning for farming families. Colt Blacklock, originally from Saskatchewan, Canada, and attending Kansas State University, discusses his cow-calf operation background and plans to return home to lead a bull test program. Both guests reflect on memorable judging contests, influential mentors, and humorous team road trip stories, showcasing the camaraderie and opportunities that livestock judging provides.
#76: Jackson Tarrance and Kolton Lake
In this episode of “The Sort”, powered by Primo Feeds, host Brett Kaysen interviews two Oklahoma State University livestock judging team members, Jackson Tarrance and Kolton Lake. Jackson, from Welling, Oklahoma, shares his journey from showing pigs to collegiate judging, discussing mentors, career goals in agricultural lending, and plans to grow his family's show pig operation. Kolton Lake, from Laramie, Wyoming, reflects on his path through Butler Community College to OSU, a national championship win, and aspirations in ruminant nutrition or coaching. Both emphasize judging's value in building skills, relationships, and professional networks.
#75: Chyann Emerson and Preston Rhode
In this episode of "The Sort," host Brett Kaysen sits down with two Oklahoma State University livestock judging standouts: Chyann Emerson and Preston Rhode. Chyann, from Tuttle, Oklahoma, shares how a soccer injury redirected her toward livestock judging, ultimately leading her to a national championship and internships with pork industry organizations. Preston, from Carlock, Illinois, discusses growing up in a cattle and show pig family, his path through junior college, and his passion for animal science at OSU. Together, they reflect on teamwork, building confidence, communication skills, and the lasting relationships forged through competitive livestock judging.
#74: Connor Pell and Dax DeLozier
In this episode of The Sort, host Brett Kaysen sits down with Oklahoma State University livestock judging team members Connor Pell and Dax DeLozier. Connor shares his journey from northeast Oklahoma, his roots in horse judging, and his transition to livestock judging at Redlands Community College before landing at OSU. Dax, a sixth-generation rancher from Adair, Oklahoma, discusses growing up on a cow-calf operation and his pivot from veterinary aspirations to meat science research. Both reflect on mentors, favorite contests, memorable road trip stories, and their futures in the livestock industry — offering valuable perspective for judges and agricultural professionals al...
#73: REVISIT - Terry Burks
This episode originally aired on February 24th, 2025.
Our guest this week on THE SORT podcast is Terry Burks. Terry is a retired Professor of English Studies from Chifeng University in The People’s Republic of China and has judged nearly 1300 Junior and open livestock shows in 43 states. You won’t want to miss this one!
#72: Tim Fort
In this episode, Tim Fort shares his remarkable journey from humble beginnings in White Deer, Texas, to becoming a respected leader in the swine industry. Listeners gain insights into Tim’s experiences in show pig raising, livestock judging, and commercial pig production, including international projects in Russia and China. He discusses the founding of Primo, a family-run pig feed company, and emphasizes the importance of mentorship, decision-making, and giving back. Tim’s story offers valuable lessons for livestock judges, students, and industry professionals on resilience, networking, and building a legacy through service and innovation.
#71: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 2)
This episode originally released on April 7, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the second of two episodes. Part 1 was released last week, and it is recommended that listeners hear Part 1 before continuing with Part 2.
#70: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 1)
This episode originally released on March 31, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the first of two episodes, with Part 2 releasing next week.
#69: Kim Brock
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Kim Brock, a legendary figure in Oklahoma State University’s Animal Science department. Kim shares his journey from growing up on a Missouri farm to becoming OSU’s swineherd manager, livestock judging coach, and farm coordinator. The conversation highlights his passion for mentoring students, the importance of youth development in livestock judging, and the enduring support of OSU alumni. Kim reflects on leadership, career transitions, and the value of integrity, leaving listeners inspired by his dedication to excellence and positive impact on generations within the agricultural community.
#68: REVISIT - Marvin Ensor
This episode originally aired on January 6th, 2025.
The Sort is excited to welcome this week's podcast guest: Marvin Ensor! Marvin has 37 years of experience as a retired Texas A&M AgriLife Extension specialist and an impressive resume of judging market lambs, market goats, and breeding sheep at many of the state fairs and major livestock shows across the nation.
#67: Jim McCoy
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Jim McCoy, a respected leader in the swine industry known for his work with purebred and show hogs. Jim shares his journey from growing up on a commercial hog farm in Ohio to becoming a renowned judge and breeder, highlighting the mentors who guided him. He discusses overcoming challenges, the importance of perseverance, and his transition into consulting after selling his farm. Jim emphasizes the value of community, mentorship, and integrity in livestock shows, offering insights and encouragement for both industry veterans and newcomers.
#66: REVISIT - Brian Faris
This episode originally was released on February 3rd, 2025.
On Today's Episode, we welcome Brian Faris to the show. Brian currently serves as the Competitive Events Director at the San Antonio Stock Show & Rodeo and has judged numerous county, state, and national shows throughout the country and has judged in Canada. His passion is working with kids and to see them learn about agriculture through 4-H/FFA projects, which makes him a perfect mentor and leader for the Top Judge program.
#65: Nick Hofschulte
In this episode, guest Nick Hofschulte shares his journey from growing up on a family farm in northeast Oklahoma to becoming a respected livestock judge and industry leader. Nick discusses the influence of his family, the importance of 4-H and FFA, and key moments in his judging and show pig career. He offers practical advice on building networks, balancing family and career, and the value of mentorship. Listeners gain insights into the challenges and rewards of livestock judging, as well as the importance of humility, relationships, and passion in the livestock industry.
#64: REVISIT - Jack Ward
This episode originally was released on December 23rd, 2024.
This week, we are excited to welcome into the studio Jack Ward, Executive Vice President of the American Hereford Association in Kansas City, Missouri. Jack received his Associate of Science degree from Black Hawk East College in Kewanee, Illinois and his BS degree from Purdue University. He and his wife, Mary Ann, have two sons, Cameron and Carter. Ward has judged every major show across the U.S. and in multiple foreign countries!
#63: Bob Kimm
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Bob Kimm, a respected livestock judge and educator. Bob shares his journey from growing up on an Iowa farm and competing in FFA, to coaching successful junior college livestock judging teams and teaching at Hawkeye Community College. He discusses the evolution of livestock contests, the importance of integrity, and his philosophy of breeding functional, balanced animals. Bob’s stories highlight mentorship, perseverance, and the value of hands-on learning. The episode offers valuable insights and inspiration for current and aspiring livestock judges, educators, and industry professionals.
#62: REVISIT - Shane Bedwell
This episode is a re-release of episode #4 of The Sort podcast, originally released on December 2nd, 2024.
The Sort is excited to welcome Shane Bedwell into the studio this week. Mr. Bedwell is the Chief Operating Officer and Director of Breed Improvement for the American Hereford Association.