The Sort
Hop into the ring with The Sort, the podcast offering both a historical and forward-looking exploration of the world of livestock judges. The goal of The Sort is designed to support, engage, mentor, and advance the future leaders of the livestock industry. In each episode, we invite guests to share their personal journeys, visions, and enthusiasm for the livestock industry. These individuals bring unique perspectives, enriching our program with their real-world experiences of challenges and successes that have shaped them into the leaders the are today.
#78: Jack Habjan and Skyler Ward
This episode of The Sort podcast, powered by Primo Feeds, features interviews with Jack Habjan and Skyler Ward, two rising stars in collegiate livestock judging and animal science. Jack, from Linwood, Kansas, shares his journey from sports announcing dreams to pursuing ruminant nutrition at Texas Tech, with plans for graduate studies at the University of Arkansas. Skyler, from New Paris, Ohio, discusses her livestock judging family roots, her time at Kansas State University, and upcoming graduate work in pet food nutrition. Both share memorable experiences from the Top Judge program and offer inspiring insights on perseverance, mentorship, and career...
#77: Paige Lemenager and Colt Blacklock
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Brett Kaysen interviews two agriculture students passionate about livestock judging. Paige Lemenager, from Texas Tech University, shares her journey from aspiring veterinarian to future agricultural attorney, focusing on estate planning for farming families. Colt Blacklock, originally from Saskatchewan, Canada, and attending Kansas State University, discusses his cow-calf operation background and plans to return home to lead a bull test program. Both guests reflect on memorable judging contests, influential mentors, and humorous team road trip stories, showcasing the camaraderie and opportunities that livestock judging provides.
#76: Jackson Tarrance and Kolton Lake
In this episode of “The Sort”, powered by Primo Feeds, host Brett Kaysen interviews two Oklahoma State University livestock judging team members, Jackson Tarrance and Kolton Lake. Jackson, from Welling, Oklahoma, shares his journey from showing pigs to collegiate judging, discussing mentors, career goals in agricultural lending, and plans to grow his family's show pig operation. Kolton Lake, from Laramie, Wyoming, reflects on his path through Butler Community College to OSU, a national championship win, and aspirations in ruminant nutrition or coaching. Both emphasize judging's value in building skills, relationships, and professional networks.
#75: Chyann Emerson and Preston Rhode
In this episode of "The Sort," host Brett Kaysen sits down with two Oklahoma State University livestock judging standouts: Chyann Emerson and Preston Rhode. Chyann, from Tuttle, Oklahoma, shares how a soccer injury redirected her toward livestock judging, ultimately leading her to a national championship and internships with pork industry organizations. Preston, from Carlock, Illinois, discusses growing up in a cattle and show pig family, his path through junior college, and his passion for animal science at OSU. Together, they reflect on teamwork, building confidence, communication skills, and the lasting relationships forged through competitive livestock judging.
#74: Connor Pell and Dax DeLozier
In this episode of The Sort, host Brett Kaysen sits down with Oklahoma State University livestock judging team members Connor Pell and Dax DeLozier. Connor shares his journey from northeast Oklahoma, his roots in horse judging, and his transition to livestock judging at Redlands Community College before landing at OSU. Dax, a sixth-generation rancher from Adair, Oklahoma, discusses growing up on a cow-calf operation and his pivot from veterinary aspirations to meat science research. Both reflect on mentors, favorite contests, memorable road trip stories, and their futures in the livestock industry — offering valuable perspective for judges and agricultural professionals al...
#73: REVISIT - Terry Burks
This episode originally aired on February 24th, 2025.
Our guest this week on THE SORT podcast is Terry Burks. Terry is a retired Professor of English Studies from Chifeng University in The People’s Republic of China and has judged nearly 1300 Junior and open livestock shows in 43 states. You won’t want to miss this one!
#72: Tim Fort
In this episode, Tim Fort shares his remarkable journey from humble beginnings in White Deer, Texas, to becoming a respected leader in the swine industry. Listeners gain insights into Tim’s experiences in show pig raising, livestock judging, and commercial pig production, including international projects in Russia and China. He discusses the founding of Primo, a family-run pig feed company, and emphasizes the importance of mentorship, decision-making, and giving back. Tim’s story offers valuable lessons for livestock judges, students, and industry professionals on resilience, networking, and building a legacy through service and innovation.
#71: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 2)
This episode originally released on April 7, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the second of two episodes. Part 1 was released last week, and it is recommended that listeners hear Part 1 before continuing with Part 2.
#70: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 1)
This episode originally released on March 31, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the first of two episodes, with Part 2 releasing next week.
#69: Kim Brock
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Kim Brock, a legendary figure in Oklahoma State University’s Animal Science department. Kim shares his journey from growing up on a Missouri farm to becoming OSU’s swineherd manager, livestock judging coach, and farm coordinator. The conversation highlights his passion for mentoring students, the importance of youth development in livestock judging, and the enduring support of OSU alumni. Kim reflects on leadership, career transitions, and the value of integrity, leaving listeners inspired by his dedication to excellence and positive impact on generations within the agricultural community.
#68: REVISIT - Marvin Ensor
This episode originally aired on January 6th, 2025.
The Sort is excited to welcome this week's podcast guest: Marvin Ensor! Marvin has 37 years of experience as a retired Texas A&M AgriLife Extension specialist and an impressive resume of judging market lambs, market goats, and breeding sheep at many of the state fairs and major livestock shows across the nation.
#67: Jim McCoy
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Jim McCoy, a respected leader in the swine industry known for his work with purebred and show hogs. Jim shares his journey from growing up on a commercial hog farm in Ohio to becoming a renowned judge and breeder, highlighting the mentors who guided him. He discusses overcoming challenges, the importance of perseverance, and his transition into consulting after selling his farm. Jim emphasizes the value of community, mentorship, and integrity in livestock shows, offering insights and encouragement for both industry veterans and newcomers.
#66: REVISIT - Brian Faris
This episode originally was released on February 3rd, 2025.
On Today's Episode, we welcome Brian Faris to the show. Brian currently serves as the Competitive Events Director at the San Antonio Stock Show & Rodeo and has judged numerous county, state, and national shows throughout the country and has judged in Canada. His passion is working with kids and to see them learn about agriculture through 4-H/FFA projects, which makes him a perfect mentor and leader for the Top Judge program.
#65: Nick Hofschulte
In this episode, guest Nick Hofschulte shares his journey from growing up on a family farm in northeast Oklahoma to becoming a respected livestock judge and industry leader. Nick discusses the influence of his family, the importance of 4-H and FFA, and key moments in his judging and show pig career. He offers practical advice on building networks, balancing family and career, and the value of mentorship. Listeners gain insights into the challenges and rewards of livestock judging, as well as the importance of humility, relationships, and passion in the livestock industry.
#64: REVISIT - Jack Ward
This episode originally was released on December 23rd, 2024.
This week, we are excited to welcome into the studio Jack Ward, Executive Vice President of the American Hereford Association in Kansas City, Missouri. Jack received his Associate of Science degree from Black Hawk East College in Kewanee, Illinois and his BS degree from Purdue University. He and his wife, Mary Ann, have two sons, Cameron and Carter. Ward has judged every major show across the U.S. and in multiple foreign countries!
#63: Bob Kimm
In this episode, host Brett Kaysen interviews Bob Kimm, a respected livestock judge and educator. Bob shares his journey from growing up on an Iowa farm and competing in FFA, to coaching successful junior college livestock judging teams and teaching at Hawkeye Community College. He discusses the evolution of livestock contests, the importance of integrity, and his philosophy of breeding functional, balanced animals. Bob’s stories highlight mentorship, perseverance, and the value of hands-on learning. The episode offers valuable insights and inspiration for current and aspiring livestock judges, educators, and industry professionals.
#62: REVISIT - Shane Bedwell
This episode is a re-release of episode #4 of The Sort podcast, originally released on December 2nd, 2024.
The Sort is excited to welcome Shane Bedwell into the studio this week. Mr. Bedwell is the Chief Operating Officer and Director of Breed Improvement for the American Hereford Association.
#61: Brandon Callis
In this episode of The Sort Podcast, host Brett Kaysen sits down with guest Brandon Callis—a respected livestock judging coach—to discuss Brandon’s journey from his Texas upbringing to a successful career in livestock judging and coaching. Brandon shares insights on the value of focusing on the process over results, the importance of mentorship, and how to balance professional ambition with personal values. He emphasizes starting small, continual self-improvement, and maintaining integrity both in and out of the ring. The episode offers practical advice and inspiration for livestock judges, students, and industry professionals, highlighting the deeper purpose and li...
#60: REVISIT - Ashlyn O'Brien and Gunner Coburn
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Ashlyn O'Brien first released on February 17th, 2025 and the interview with Gunner Coburn first aired on April 21st, 2025.
Ashlyn attended Butler Community College as a member of the livestock judging team. Upon graduation, she continued her judging career at Oklahoma State University while working towards a Bachelor's degree in Animal Science. Along with being honored as an Academic All-American, she was named the High Individual Overall at the Cattlemen's Congress, San Antonio Livestock Show & Rodeo, and the National Western.
Gunner began his c...
#59: Tom Farrer
In this episode of The Sort podcast, host Brett Kaysen talks with Tom Farrer, a renowned livestock breeder and judge from Indiana. Tom shares insights from his multi-generational family operation, his experiences in 4-H, and his journey judging at major shows nationwide. He discusses the importance of independent thinking, adapting to industry changes, and maintaining high standards in both breeding and evaluation. Tom emphasizes the value of youth development, family legacy, and staying true to one’s ideals—offering practical advice and inspiration for current and aspiring livestock judges and industry professionals.
#58: REVISIT - Chris Mullinix
This episode is a re-release of episode #19 of The Sort podcast, originally released on March 17th, 2025.
Today's guest on THE SORT podcast is Chris Mullinix, Instructor of Animal Sciences at Kansas State University and Co-Coach of the Meat Animal Evaluation Team. Originally from Maryland, Chris grew up on a diversified cattle and farming operation. He was a National Champion Livestock Judging Team member and had tremendous coaching success at Butler Community College and Kansas State University, coaching over 30 collegiate national contest winning teams. Adding to an already impressive resume, Chris has judged livestock exhibitions in 42 different states...
#57: Galen McCune
In this episode of The Sort Podcast, host Brett Kaysen and guest Galen McCune, a respected livestock judge and educator, discuss Galen’s journey from rural Oklahoma 4-H and FFA member to judging major national shows. Galen shares insights from his experiences in the show ring, his transition from aspiring veterinarian to ag teacher, and his philosophy on honesty and integrity in judging. He reflects on memorable animals, influential mentors, and the importance of putting youth first. This episode offers valuable lessons and inspiration for livestock judges, students, and industry professionals alike.
#56: REVISIT - Dr. John Edwards
This episode is a re-release of episode #39 of The Sort podcast, originally released on August 4th, 2025.
This week, we are excited to sit down for a conversation with a legend of the industry: Dr. John Edwards, whose 50-year career as a livestock judge included judging every major steer show in the county as well as serving as the official judge for eight national beef breed shows. He also judged cattle in eight foreign countries on four continents.
#55: REVISIT - Dr. Scott Greiner
This episode is a re-release of Episode #2 of The Sort, originally released on November 18th, 2024.
THE SORT welcomes what many call one of the GOATS of the livestock judging world (no pun intended) into the studio- Dr. Scott Greiner.
Dr Greiner is a Professor and Extension Animal Scientist in the School of Animal Sciences at Virginia Tech. Scott was raised on a diversified livestock farm in eastern Iowa. He attended Iowa State University where he majored in Animal Science. While at Iowa State he was a member of the Reserve National Champion Meats Judging Team...
#54: Glen Alan Phillips
In this episode, Brett welcomes Glen Alan Phillips, who shares his journey from growing up in a small Texas town immersed in 4-H and FFA to becoming a respected livestock judge and industry leader. Glen discusses the impact of early mentors, the value of being coachable, and lessons learned from collegiate judging and coaching. He offers insights on integrity, faith, and navigating career challenges, including managing major events during COVID-19. The conversation emphasizes the importance of relationships, personal values, and lifelong learning for current and aspiring livestock judges and industry professionals.
#53: REVISIT - Warren Beeler
This episode is a re-release of Episode #1 of The Sort, originally released on November 11th, 2024.
THE SORT welcomes Warren Beeler to the podcast. Warren is the Deputy Commissioner of Agriculture for the Kentucky Department of Agriculture and an adjunct instructor for Western Kentucky University. A tireless advocate for the agricultural industry, Warren has been awarded the Distinguished Rural Kentuckian award, been inducted into the Kentucky Pork Producers Hall of Fame, the Western Kentucky University Hall of Fame, and the University of Kentucky Animal and Food Science Hall of Fame.
Beyond his work, Warren is recognized...
#52: Dr. Joel DeRouchey
On today's episode, Host Brett Kaysen sits down with guest Dr. Joel DeRouchey, Professor of Swine Nutrition at Animal State University.
#51: Clay Zwilling, CEO of the National Swine Registry
Today's guest on the show is Clay Zwilling, CEO of the National Swine Registry. Clay’s a driving force behind the purebred swine industry, helping breeders and show pig producers innovate and grow. He’s all about blending fresh ideas with trusted traditions to keep this key part of agriculture moving forward. He’s also no stranger to the judging arena. You won’t want to miss this one!
#50: REVISIT - Dr. Ryan Rathmann
This episode features an interview previously released on the podcast on March 3rd, 2025.
Today's guest is Dr. Rathmann, who holds the John W. and Doris Jones Professorship in Animal Science at Texas Tech University where he specializes in Beef Cattle Biology and serves as Faculty Coordinator and Coach of the Livestock Judging Team. Passionate about student success, Dr. Rathmann teaches courses on animal science, breeding, and beef production systems, and conducts research in feedlot nutrition, carcass composition, and muscle growth. No stranger to success, he led Texas Tech and Texas A&M to a combined 7 national championships.<...
#49: Ben Cooley
Please welcome Ben Cooley to THE SORT this week! Ben hails from Merino, CO and brings a wealth of experience in livestock production. A Colorado State alum and former member of the Reserve National Champion Livestock Judging Team, he’s also served as a professor and judging coach at Northeastern Junior College. Today, he works as a Cattle Productivity Manager at Zoetis and co-owns Flatland Show Pigs, managing around 70 sows. Don't miss this episode!
#48: REVISIT - Cole Murphy and Braylon Spears
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Cole Murphy first released on August 18th, 2025 and the interview with Braylon Spears first aired on July 7th, 2025.
Cole Murphy attended Lake Land College where he was on the judging team and high individual at several major contests while also earning All-American honors. Cole currently attends Kansas State University where he was a member of the National Champion team and High Team at the American Royal. In May, he graduated with a bachelor's degree...
#47: Rachel Meyer and Dr. Brett Kaysen
On Today's Episode: Brett sits down with Rachel Meyer of Zinpro Corporation to discuss how Zinpro is working to improve the health and wellbeing of both animals and people as a pioneer in the research and development of performance trace minerals and innovative nutritional solutions. Rachel also shares why this family-owned, privately held company decided to support The Sort podcast and the Top Judge program this past season.
Then, the tables turn as Ed Tice, a longstanding industry leader and the owner of Tice LS Enterprises, joins the show to interview our host, Dr. Brett Kaysen, about...
#46: REVISIT - Emerson Tarr and Salem Sifford
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Emerson Tarr first released on March 10th, 2025 and the interview with Salem Sifford first aired on August 18th, 2025.
Emerson is a senior at Kansas State University where she is studying agriculture communications and journalism with a minor in animal science. Emerson is involved in the College of Agriculture Ambassadors, Block and Bridle, and Agriculture Communicators of Tomorrow. She was also a member of the 2024 National Champion Livestock Judging and Meat Animal Evaluation Teams.
<...#45: Dr. Clint Schwab
In this episode, Dr. Clint Schwab shares his journey from his Colorado roots and early involvement in 4-H and FFA to becoming a respected leader in livestock judging and animal genetics. He discusses the impact of mentorship, community, and lifelong learning, highlighting key influences and pivotal career decisions. Dr. Schwab offers practical advice for livestock judges and students, emphasizing the value of fundamentals, networking, and adaptability. The conversation provides valuable insights into professional development within the livestock industry, celebrating the tradition and future of livestock judging.
#44: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 2)
This episode originally released on April 7, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the second of two episodes. Part 1 was released last week, and it is recommended that listeners hear Part 1 before continuing with Part 2.
#43: REVISIT - Jim Williams and Randy Daniel (Part 1)
This episode originally released on March 31, 2025.
Join host Brett Kaysen as he sits down for an extended conversation with two legends: Jim Williams and Randy Daniel.
*This episode is the first of two episodes, with Part 2 releasing next week.
#42: REVISIT - Anna Hannon and Reagan Gibson
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Anna Hannon first released on February 10th, 2025 and the interview with Reagan Gibson first aired on July 21st, 2025.
Anna Hannon began her collegiate judging career at Northern Oklahoma College, where her team was named 2023 Team of the Year after winning American Royal, NAILE, Denver, and Houston. She then transitioned to Oklahoma State University, where she is currently finishing a degree in Recreational Therapy. Her time at NOC and OSU culminated in earning several individual...
#41: Cole Murphy and Salem Sifford
On Today's Episode, Host Brett Kaysen sits down with two more university students who take part in the Top Judge program.
Cole Murphy attended Lake Land College where he was on the judging team and high individual at several major contests while also earning All-American honors. Cole currently attends Kansas State University where he was a member of the National Champion team and High Team at the American Royal. In May, he graduated with a bachelor's degree in animal science with a minor in agricultural sales. This summer, Cole served as the Field Staff Intern with the...
#40: REVISIT - Jed Sidwell and Jacob Klaudt
This episode features two interviews previously released on the podcast with students who took part in the Top Judge program. The interview with Jed Sidwell first released on February 17th, 2025 and the interview with Jacob Klaudt first aired on March 10th.
Livestock judging led Jed to Butler Community College where he was a member of the Champion Team at the Cattlemen's Congress. After two years at Butler, he went to Stillwater, Oklahoma where he just finished up his time as a member of the Livestock Judging team at Oklahoma State University. He was a member of the...
#39: Dr. John Edwards
This week, we are excited to sit down for a conversation with a legend of the industry: Dr. John Edwards, whose 50-year career as a livestock judge included judging every major steer show in the county as well as serving as the official judge for eight national beef breed shows. He also judged cattle in eight foreign countries on four continents.