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By: Heather Jolley and Nicole Barr

Join Heather and Nicole as we discuss all things Gen-X with personal nostalgia, current events, and an advocacy for the rights of all humans.  From music to movies to television and so much more, revisit the generational trauma we all experienced as we talk about it all. Take a break from today and travel back to the long hot summer days of the 80s and 90s.  Come on slackers, fuck around and find out with us!

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#103
Today at 4:00 AM

A toddler shoplifts candy at Wawa in broad daylight, a great white launches out of the ocean like it’s auditioning for Shark Week, and somehow that’s still only the warm-up before we go all-in on Michael Keaton. We’re Nicole and Heather, and our brains work exactly like a Gen X group chat: horror streaming, true crime burnout, coastal storm chaos, and then a hard pivot into the movies we can quote from memory.

We trace Keaton’s path from Pittsburgh roots and Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood to early film swings like Night Shift and the forever-cl...


These Aren't The Ads You're Looking For
#102
Yesterday at 10:00 PM

One movie scene can turn a “whatever” product into a permanent part of culture, and once you notice it, you can’t unsee it. We start with our usual real life swirl, the SpaceX “space squid,” an update on endurance legend Carl Bushby, and a surprisingly honest detour into life insurance, death plans, and the oddly comforting idea of donating your body to science.

Then we go deep on product placement in movies, the kind Gen X grew up breathing in through VHS rewatches. We break down the marketing alchemy behind Reese’s Pieces in E.T., how Ray Ban...


Get Off My Lawn
#101
10/09/2026

National Grouch Day exists, it lands on October 15, and we are absolutely claiming it. We take our favorite kind of nostalgia, the kind with sharp edges, and use it to build a Gen X hall of fame for legendary grouches. Think Oscar the Grouch energy, but expanded into sitcom dads, cartoon villains, and the characters who taught us that complaining can be a craft.

We dig into where National Grouch Day came from (a sixth-grade prank aimed at a grouchy teacher) and then roll through the icons: Fred Sanford’s glorious crankiness, Archie Bunker as a complicated cu...


Keeping It 100 GenX Style
#100
10/02/2026

Aliens aren’t a new obsession for Gen X, they’re practically part of our operating system, and we prove it on our (very on brand) hundredth episode. We start where we always start: real life chaos. From birthday side eye to VMAs takes to a full rant about coastal storm flooding and out of town concert crowds acting like Ocean City invented water, we set the scene for why “unexplained” is basically our comfort zone.

Then we go out of this world, but keep it grounded in stories you can actually argue about at a bar. We run t...


Built Ford Tough
#99
09/25/2026

That moment when you hit play expecting Lizzie Borden and end up watching a completely different show? Yeah, we went there. We break down why the new Netflix Lizzie Borden series feels so off for true crime fans: the loose relationship with facts, the chaotic story choices, and the bigger problem of streaming “true crime” leaning on famous names while wandering miles away from the real case. If you care about true crime accuracy, this one will either validate you or fire you up.

Then we shift into pure Gen X reality: watching our icons get older, feel...


From Hull To Eternity: Karl VS. Goliath
#98
09/18/2026

A laptop dies, the internet lies about being connected, and somehow that turns into the question we can’t stop asking: if AI is supposedly going to end humanity by 2030, what does that even look like in real life? We talk through the headline panic, the quieter risks people ignore (water use, energy draw, and companies skipping basic containment), and the oddly calming point a smart NPR guest makes: you can unplug it, you can air gap it, and you can choose to log off when the noise gets too loud.

From there we swing into the ki...


Hit Me Baby One More Time
#97
09/11/2026

Some of what happened in Gen X classrooms sounds fake until you say it out loud: hygiene inspections in front of everyone, paddles hanging in the office, teachers who could shame you publicly and nobody blinked. We’re Nicole and Heather, and we’re taking you back to school in the 1970s and 1980s to talk about the rules, punishments, and power dynamics that were once considered “normal” and would get a teacher fired today.

Along the way, we share real-life updates, including a brand-new kayaking obsession and a very Gen X “get off my lawn” moment about custom...


The Four Horsemen Of The Kindpocolypse
#96
09/04/2026

You can feel the difference between a celebrity people admire and a person people genuinely trust, and we’re chasing that line with a very Gen X mix of humor, grief, and blunt honesty. After we talk through pop culture losses and a quick true-crime spiral about how modern forensics catches the “I bought a saw at Walmart” crowd, we pivot to something sweeter: our personal Mount Rushmore of good people. Not “famous and generous sometimes” good, but the rare kind of good that seems to hold up from every angle. 

We start with Dolly Parton as the gold st...


How Nicole Got Her Groove Back
#95
08/28/2026

A tornado hits near Nicole’s house and she realizes two things fast: nature does not care about your plans, and neither does a dead phone battery. We start with that near miss, the chaos of hunkering down in a central room with five cats, and the weird aftershock of sirens and helicopters that makes your body stay tense long after the warning ends.

Then we pivot into something a lot of Gen X listeners are living through quietly: gray divorce. Nicole shares the moment her divorce decree arrives and what “closure” actually feels like when you’re not t...


Two Men And A Tiger
#94
08/21/2026

A 400-pound white tiger on a Vegas stage, no real barrier, pyrotechnics popping, and an audience sitting just feet away. That kind of spectacle feels impossible now, which is exactly why we wanted to revisit the strange, glittery, complicated world of Siegfried and Roy and the era they helped define on the Las Vegas Strip.

We trace how two kids growing up in postwar Germany build an act that fuses classic stage magic with big cats, starting with a cruise ship job and a cheetah named Chico that Roy literally smuggles onboard. From there, the story rockets...


Hickory Dickory Shock
#93
08/14/2026

A bald eagle you’ve never met can still make you cry, and that’s where we start. We talk through the death of Jackie from the Friends of Big Bear eagle cam, what the rescue team shared about her anemia, and why “just let her go” isn’t as simple as it sounds. We also dig into the unexpected upside of a viral wildlife story: real conservation impact, land protected from development, and why even small donations to a raptor rescue or wildlife rehabilitation group can matter.

From there, we slide into the very Gen X whiplash o...


Fair Weather And Following Seas
#92
08/07/2026

A fishing tournament where a two-minute mistake can erase millions, a one-pound difference can decide a fortune, and the docks feel like the Super Bowl is not a metaphor in Ocean City, Maryland. We dig into the White Marlin Open, the week every August when Harbor Island turns into a live-action scoreboard and the whole town seems to hold its breath waiting for the next boat to clear the bridge and hit the scales. 

We walk through the real story behind the hype: how the tournament started, why transparency and strict enforcement are the backbone of the e...


Put On Your Dancing Shoes
#91
07/31/2026

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Should You Need Us
#90
07/24/2026

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Who's That Girl
#89
07/17/2026

You know that one sibling who grew up in the same house but somehow got a completely different childhood? Heather’s sister Jessica joins us as our late Gen X, 1979-born “cusp” kid, and we get honest about what changed between our eras and what stayed exactly the same. We talk feral independence, family weirdness, and the kind of small-town freedom that meant you were either outside all day or getting yelled “in or out” from the doorway. 

Jessica takes us through her version of growing up: being the social one, shutting down bullies, living for 90s nostalgia...


Two Hundred Candles
#88
07/10/2026

America turning 200 in 1976 was not a normal birthday party. It was a year-long, red-white-and-blue fever dream that somehow doubled as a group therapy session, and we get into why that matters now that the 250th anniversary is here. Along the way, we start exactly where real life starts: surviving a brutal heat wave, watching fireworks from the kitchen window, and taking in a tiny four-week-old kitten who shows up sick, starving, and instantly becomes family. 

We also hit the fun and messy corners of modern culture, from celebrity wedding rumors to the bigger question hiding underneath it a...


Red, White, and Like Whatever
#87
07/03/2026

The heat is disrespectful, Prime Week is annoying, and we’re both one weird interaction away from snapping, so we’re channeling it into something useful and way more entertaining. We start with real life updates (Nicole moves, Heather is melting on the route) and then get oddly practical about summer survival: what to say to your mail carrier, what not to say, and how a cold drink can change somebody’s entire day.

From there, the conversation takes a sharp turn into true crime with reactions to Maternal Instinct, including the gut-punch details that raise big questi...


Slay The House Of Ru Down
#86
06/26/2026

Your hormones are missing, you’re sweating through black clothes, and the pharmacy is looking at you like you asked for contraband, so naturally we end up talking about RuPaul. That’s the energy today: messy midlife reality, sharp Gen X humor, and a surprisingly moving look at reinvention when your body and your life refuse to stay the same.

We start with the menopause patch shortage and what it does to sleep, mood, and that unforgettable “itchy ear” sensation that feels like a tiny gremlin pulling your strings. From there we jump into a true fight-or-flight story fr...


Movie Night At Camp Rainbow
#85
06/19/2026

The World Cup hits the United States and we expect to feel annoyed, embarrassed, or defensive. Instead, we end up watching visitors from Europe, Australia, and beyond fall hard for the stuff we barely notice anymore: strangers saying good morning, random compliments on the street, the sheer size of our states, the chaos of thunderstorms, and the kind of natural beauty that stops you in your tracks. When people start saying “we were lied to about Americans,” it pushes us into a bigger conversation about identity, perception, and why the loudest political voices are not the whole story of this...


Family: Some Assembly Required
#84
06/12/2026

Blood doesn’t automatically make someone safe, loving, or present and Gen X learned that lesson early. After a quick round of travel chaos, cats, and the kind of airport anxiety that ends with an $11 beer and no time to eat, we pivot into a Pride Month conversation about chosen family and why it became a lifeline for so many LGBTQ people coming of age in the 1970s through the 1990s. 

We talk about what it meant to grow up with scarce queer representation, casual cruelty like “that’s so gay,” and almost no institutional protection. Without the inter...


Sometimes The Clothes Do Not Make The Man
#83
06/05/2026

One dumb joke can derail hundreds of people’s day, and one great song can define a decade. We start out in classic Like Whatever mode with best-friend banter, post-sickness exhaustion, and a headline that’s equal parts funny and infuriating: a passenger naming their in-flight Wi‑Fi device “BOMB” and forcing a transatlantic flight to turn back. From there, we dig into a question that gets uncomfortably personal: would you rather know exactly when you’re going to die, or live without the countdown? 

Then we shift into our main story for Pride Month: George Michael. We trace his...


Please Don't Die
Please Don't Die episode artwork
#82
05/29/2026

You can’t forget a slogan that’s been burned into your brain since elementary school, and that’s exactly what makes America’s safety mascots so fascinating. We’re Gen X, so our childhood came with a rotating cast of animated guardians, trench coat enforcers, and neon warning faces that somehow taught us real world habits before we even understood what “public health messaging” meant. 

We talk through the biggest icons and what they were designed to do: Smokey Bear and wildfire prevention, Woodsy Owl and anti pollution messaging, McGruff the Crime Dog and stranger danger era anxiety, Mr...


Do Effing Better
#81
05/22/2026

Lorena Bobbitt’s name got frozen in time as a late-night punchline, but the real story is about domestic violence, marital rape, and what happens when the public treats a survivor’s trauma like entertainment. We sit with how the 90s media machine framed the case, why so many of us absorbed the wrong takeaway, and why that kind of coverage still shapes how survivors are treated today.

We also dig into the systems that fail people long before a headline happens: the ugly reality of trying to get a protective order, the legal barriers that once made...


The Parent Trap
#80
05/15/2026

Your phone rings and you instantly know something is wrong. A parent is in the hospital, nobody is giving straight answers, and you are suddenly managing medications, paperwork, and family emotions like it’s your second job. We’re Nicole and Heather, two Gen X friends trying to make sense of what it means to “raise our parents” while we’re still working, paying bills, and barely feeling like adults ourselves.

We talk through the caregiving reality hitting baby boomers and their Gen X kids: longer lifespans, chronic illness, dementia fears, rehab stays, and the shocking price of assiste...


In Da AARP Club We Gonna Party Like It's Your Birthday
#79
05/01/2026

The red AARP envelope is one of the strangest American milestones: it’s mailed like a harmless membership perk, but it lands like a quiet announcement that time is moving faster than you want to admit. We follow that feeling straight into the real story behind AARP, and it gets way bigger than hotel discounts and a magazine in your mailbox. 

We start where we always do, as Nicole and Heather catching up on the here and now, then we pivot hard into the main question: what is AARP, who built it, and why does it have so...


Flannel, Cigarettes, and Highway‑Volume Therapy
#78
04/24/2026

Your brain wants nostalgia and your body wants a grilled cheese, so we follow both threads until they collide with a wall of fuzzy guitars. We start with the very specific Gen X comfort-food universe: cheese toast, PB&J, bologna with mayo, and the elite move of stuffing salty chips into a sandwich. It’s funny, but it’s also a real look at how “fend for yourself” childhood dinners shaped our cravings, our independence, and the way we treat food as a shortcut to safety.

Then we launch a new hypotheticals segment with one big question: if reinc...


The Original Fake News
#77
04/17/2026

A Jeopardy champion explains his favorite number using an F-shaped stick from childhood, and somehow that tiny piece of logic becomes the perfect on-ramp to a much bigger question: why do people believe what they believe. We start light with Gen X catch-up energy, then roll through Masters weekend fandom, migraine misery, and the kind of sugar craving that turns a coconut cream egg into a full-contact sport. We also compare notes on insomnia fixes, including a true crime sleep podcast that’s oddly soothing even when it still does not knock you out. 

Then the gloves com...


From Apollo’s Light To Artemis’s Shadow
#76
04/10/2026

Forty-one minutes. No telemetry, no voices, no way to help. That’s what it feels like when a crewed spacecraft slips behind the Moon and the signal dies, even in 2026. We sit with that fear and awe, then pull the camera back to ask a bigger question: how did the Moon go from a goddess in a silver chariot to a world we’re actively planning to live on again?

We start in myth, with Selene and Luna as the Moon embodied, tied to tides, time, love, and cycles. Then we jump to the giant impact hypothesis, the...


Yes Virginia There Is A Boogeyman
#75
04/03/2026

Serial killers weren’t just “true crime” to us. They were a constant hum in the background of growing up: news anchors saying names like Bundy and Gacy, parents warning about strangers, and that sinking feeling that danger could look normal. We start with our usual Gen X catch-up (pollen season, the revived “The More You Know” vibe, and why April Fool’s pranks are a crime), then we jump into the big question: why did serial killing peak in America from the 1960s through the early 1990s?

From there, we break down the conditions that let serial offen...


Nicole’s International House of Hijinks
#74
03/27/2026

Nobody warned us that menopause could look like this: 3 a.m. wakeups, brain fog that steals your words mid sentence, and a “frozen shoulder” that makes taking off a T shirt feel like a full contact sport. We start from that real place, laughing because we have to, and comparing notes in the way only two Gen X best friends can.

Then we whip the conversation into culture and chaos: the temptation of Rocky Horror on Broadway, the dread and thrill of New York driving, and a frank talk about separating art from the artist when a perf...


Talk Dirty To Me
#73
03/20/2026

Daytime talk shows didn’t just entertain us, they trained a whole generation to watch strangers confess, fight, reconcile, and melt down before dinner. We’re Nicole and Heather, and we dig into how talk shows evolved from Phil Donahue’s audience-driven, single-topic conversations into the tabloid talk TV era where shock value became the product. Think Oprah’s cultural power, Sally Jesse Raphael’s human-interest tone, Geraldo’s controversy, Jerry Springer’s chaos, Jenny Jones’ ambush-style reveals, Ricky Lake’s youth focus, Montel’s mix of uplift and spectacle, and Maury’s paternity-test obsession that turned “You are not the father” into a p...


Raised By Resistance, Raising The Reckoning
#72
03/13/2026

Dinosaurs turning into birds shouldn’t make you think about feminism, but somehow it does when you’re a Gen X woman with a cranky “tiny T-Rex” bird, a Netflix queue, and zero patience for pretending history is settled. We start with real life: birthday week wins, weird weather, and the shows we’re binging. Then we pivot hard into Women’s History Month with a topic we’ve been turning over for a while, because the timeline is both empowering and infuriating.

We walk through second-wave feminism from the 1960s to the 1980s and name the laws and court...


Public Ally Not All Heroes Wear Clocks
#71
03/06/2026

What if the loudest hype man of an era was also one of its most surprising humanitarians? We pull back the curtain on Flavor Flav’s wild, complicated arc—self-taught musical prodigy, Public Enemy’s essential counterweight, chaotic reality TV architect—and land on a twist that made us cheer: a devoted advocate for women’s sports who quietly funds training, travel, and real recognition. This isn’t a rebrand story; it’s a blueprint for using fame as a tool.

We start with awe. Will Smith’s Pole to Pole sparks a meditation on silence and scale—standing o...


We Tried to Beat It… We Did Not
#71
02/27/2026

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A Miracle In The Midst Of Madness
#70
02/20/2026

A cold rink, a loud crowd, and a country craving something to believe in. We take you back to Lake Placid for a cinematic, breath-by-breath retelling of the Miracle on Ice—how a roster of college kids, shaped by Herb Brooks’ ruthless vision and welded together from rival programs, toppled the most feared hockey machine on earth. Along the way, we rewind to the mood of late-70s America—stagflation, hostages, the long shadow of the Cold War—and explain why one winter night in 1980 felt like the nation’s heartbeat coming back.

We dig into the players wh...


The Real Mandela Effect
#69
02/13/2026

A rumor sparks the mic and the conversation swerves—first through a tabloid-scented headline and a fresh round of Cobain speculation, then straight into sunlit confessionals from an all-inclusive in Punta Cana. We trade strawberry mojitos for social x-rays: the charm of perfect hospitality, the quiet grind of the staff who make it look easy, and the odd theater of “rich people problems” that bubble up around buffets and pool chairs. Even beachside, the world intrudes—politics at parties, tracking apps that start as jokes, and the uneasy truce between safety and freedom when a trinket seller shifts to whispere...


Media Circus On Ice: Olympic Class War
Media Circus On Ice: Olympic Class War episode artwork
#68
02/06/2026

A single cry in a Detroit hallway became one of the most replayed clips of the 90s—but the loudest part of the Kerrigan–Harding saga wasn’t the baton. It was the story that followed. We open with a candid nod to Catherine O’Hara and a late love affair with Schitt’s Creek, drift through Mid‑Atlantic weather chaos and Gen X ad breaks, then lock in on the cultural earthquake that reshaped figure skating, tabloid TV, and public sympathy.

We trace Tonya Harding’s climb from public rinks and home‑sewn costumes to a history‑making t...


Goldblumageddon Unbuttoned
#67
01/30/2026

What do you do when the world ices over and the roads turn to glass? You make tea, invite a snoring pug to the mic, and chase joy straight into Jeff Goldblum’s gloriously weird filmography. We start with a blizzard check-in—mail routes on chains, accidental hibernation, missed football bets—and then crack open a comfort topic that refuses to be boring.

We trace Goldblum’s path from Pittsburgh to Meisner training in New York, through small 70s roles into the transformative blast radius of The Fly. From there it’s a hop to Jurassic Park’s coolly cha...


It Takes A Little E$ To Make A Big Difference
#66
01/23/2026

Remember when one adult’s kind word changed your whole week? We lean into that feeling and unpack why mentoring still works, how Big Brothers Big Sisters makes it safe and effective, and where Gen X can plug in without flipping their life upside down. Starting from MLK Day’s call to serve, we trace BBBS back to its 1904 origins, break down the matching process, and talk through the guardrails that protect kids and volunteers. No halo polishing—just real talk about consistency, trust, and the quiet moments that move the needle.

We share wins that stick: a teac...


Tale As Old As Your Mom
#65
01/16/2026

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