Copper State Marching Podcast

In Volume 2 of this multi-part conversation, Copper State Marching Podcast host Martin Hebda welcomes back Travis Larson to continue exploring how to educate, mentor, and develop effective marching arts instructors.

This episode focuses on practical rehearsal strategies, professional boundaries, and the leadership skills needed to help students succeed. Martin and Travis discuss the power of repetition, encouraging students to learn through experience, and prioritizing meaningful feedback over constant corrections. They also emphasize the importance of following program communication policies, maintaining appropriate boundaries with students, and modeling professionalism at all times.

The conversation explores what it...

As marching band season comes to a close, Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek are looking ahead to one of the biggest events of the year: AZMBA Marching Band Championships!

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, sponsored by the Arizona Marching Band Association (AZMBA), Martin and Matt discuss what makes championship day such a special experience for students, directors, families, and supporters across Arizona. They preview this year’s championship venues at Pinnacle High School, Campo Verde High School, and Millennium High School, highlighting the efforts to create an outstanding and equitable experience for every pe...

What does it take to build great performers, future educators, and leaders through the marching arts? In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, host Martin Hebda sits down with Josh Thye, Executive Director of the Arizona Academy of the Performing Arts, for an in-depth conversation about the Academy’s history, mission, and exciting opportunities for the 2027 season.

Josh shares his personal journey from the Academy’s early days in 2001 to leading the organization today, reflecting on founder Mark Richardson’s vision of “creating great people through great performances.” Together, Martin and Josh explore how the Academy de...

In Volume 1 of this multi-part conversation, Copper State Marching Podcast host Martin Hebda welcomes back Travis Larson to discuss one of the most important challenges in marching arts education: how to effectively educate, mentor, and guide young instructional staff members.

Together, Martin and Travis explore the essential skills new staff members need to develop, from understanding their role within a program and building relationships with students to diagnosing problems, communicating effectively, and delivering meaningful feedback.

This episode dives into practical strategies for helping young educators become more confident, prepared, and effective on the field. Topics...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, host Martin Hebda is joined by experienced educators and adjudicators Scott Montoya and Mark Hodge for a practical conversation about navigating mid-season show changes.

Together, they discuss how to evaluate judges’ comments, identify recurring themes across multiple critiques, and prioritize adjustments that will make the biggest impact without overwhelming students or staff. From recognizing structural issues and improving musical and visual achievement to deciding when it’s too late for major changes, this episode offers valuable insight for programs of every size.

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What does it take to start a Winter Guard, Indoor Percussion, or Indoor Winds program at your school. Is now the right time to take the plunge?

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, host Martin Hebda sits down with Steven Goodman, WGAZ Vice President, and Beth Carlson, WGAZ Color Guard Liaison, for an in-depth conversation about the indoor pageantry arts in Arizona. They discuss the benefits of adding an indoor program, including student recruitment and retention, skill development, performance opportunities, and creating additional pathways for students to find their place within a school community...

What does it take to host a successful marching arts competition? In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda sits down with experienced contest administrators Bryan Scheidecker and Rusty Carle-Ogren to discuss the behind thescenes work that goes into creating a positive experience for performers, directors, judges, volunteers, and spectators.

From building a strong volunteer team and creating clear communication packets to managing parking, warm-up areas, signage, hospitality, weather, heat, and unexpected challenges, Bryan and Rusty share practical advice and real-world experiences from years of working with marching band and WGI events.

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In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda is joined by Brian Murphy and Jeff Quamo for a conversation about one of the most valuable resources during the marching band season, the critique.

Brian and Jeff share perspectives from both sides of the table, discussing how directors and staff can prepare for critique, listen to the judges tapes, develop specific questions, and use the limited time with judges as effectively as possible. The conversation explores how to turn judges’ feedback into practical goals for the upcoming week, when to focus on specific moments versus la...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek sit down with Travis Larson, Blue Stars Brass Caption Head and longtime Arizona educator, arranger, and marching arts instructor.

Travis shares his journey from marching Velvet Knights and the Blue Devils to teaching with some of the country’s leading drum corps, and discusses his recent success with the Blue Stars brass program. The conversation dives into practical strategies for building a stronger brass line, developing sound and articulation, creating high energy rehearsals, and using simple technique exercises to produce meaningful results. Travis al...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda sits down with Gary Juarez, owner of MVP Apparel, to explore his journey through marching band, drum corps, education, and the Arizona marching arts community.

Gary shares stories from his time performing with Pacific Crest, VK, and the Blue Devils, as well as his extensive instructional career with high school programs, Arizona State University, drum corps, and programs around the world.

The conversation then turns to the creation and growth of MVP Apparel. Gary explains how a late-night YouTube video about making T-shirts sparked...

What happens when nearly 150 band directors, instructors, adjudicators, and boosters come together for a day of professional development? Elevate!

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda, Matt Kozacek, and Aaron Vogel recap the most successful Elevate workshop yet. They reflect on the event’s growth from just 20 attendees at its inaugural event in 2017 to nearly 150 participants this year and the impact that growth can have on marching band students across Arizona.

Martin, Matt, and Aaron revisit key lessons from clinicians Matt and Susie Harloff, including building musical excellence, developing performance quality, ge...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman sit down with longtime Arizona music educator and adjudicator Brian Murphy to take a closer look at the world of marching band judging.

What does it really take to become a judge? How do judges approach scoring, feedback, and critique? And can judging actually make you a better educator? The conversation explores the importance of meaningful student-centered feedback, how to make the most of critique sessions, balancing numbers with narrative feedback, recognizing excellence at every level, and finding the right “entry point” to help...

How can I & E (Individual & Ensemble) become one of the most rewarding experiences for your students? Hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek are joined by I&E judge and adjudicator Jeff Quamo to discuss the benefits of I & E.

The conversation explores how I&E develops independence, confidence, musicianship, creativity, and leadership while requiring minimal extra work from directors. Jeff shares practical ideas for introducing I&E in your program, helping students select music, incorporating chamber music into rehearsals, and creating performance opportunities before the event. The episode also highlights the unique educational value of personalized adjudicator...

The countdown is on for Elevate, Arizona's premier professional development event for marching band directors, instructional staff, adjudicators, and new this year… band boosters!

Hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek preview everything attendees can expect at this free one-day workshop designed to strengthen marching band programs across the state. They discuss the evolution of Elevate, the importance of continued learning, and how collaboration among educators leads to stronger programs and better experiences for students.

This episode also highlights this year's featured clinicians, Matt and Susie Harloff, whose decades of experience in music education, marching arts, an...

How do successful marching band programs structure rehearsals throughout the season? Hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek are joined by Renee Shane-Boyd (Catalina Foothills High School) and Benjamin Sampayan (Perry High School) to discuss how they plan, organize, and adapt rehearsals from the first week of school through championship season. The conversation covers balancing visual and music instruction, pacing rehearsals, giving effective student feedback, empowering staff, maintaining student engagement, and avoiding common rehearsal pitfalls. Whether you're a new director or a seasoned educator looking to refine your process, this episode is packed with practical ideas to help make every...

A new school year is here, and it's time to kick things off! In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek welcome band directors and instructional staff back for another exciting season.

The conversation reflects on lessons learned from summer band camps, sharing favorite team-building activities, traditions, and ideas that made this year's camps especially successful. Martin and Matt also discuss how they approach the first week of school—building relationships, welcoming new students, creating a positive classroom culture, organizing the logistics of a busy program, and helping students transition in...

Not every marching band has a dedicated visual instructor, but every ensemble can develop confident, expressive performers.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman are joined by visual educators Sierra Rogers and Tess Evans to discuss practical strategies for teaching movement when visual instruction falls on the band director or a small staff.

The conversation covers building confidence in young performers, developing effective visual warm-ups and "press plays," teaching fundamental movement vocabulary, improving timing and coordination, cleaning choreography, and creating a positive learning environment where students are...

Creating an engaging marching band production doesn't have to require an unlimited budget. In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel are joined by Julie Trent, Josh White, and Ricardo Labourin to share practical strategies for designing high-quality marching shows while making every dollar count.

The conversation explores affordable approaches to show design, music selection, drill, costumes, props, staffing, and fundraising. The panel also discusses how to build strong relationships with administrators, advocate for program support, leverage community resources, and find creative solutions that put students first.

Whether...

What Does Band Camp Look Like? Band camp is one of the most important weeks of the marching season. In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda, Matt Kozacek, and Aaron Vogel share their philosophies, schedules, traditions, and best practices for creating a successful band camp experience.

The discussion covers everything from building culture and teaching fundamentals to leadership development, rookie camps, drill instruction, conditioning, team-building games, and student wellness. The hosts also compare different scheduling models, discuss the importance of adapting programs over time, and share ideas from directors around Arizona, including...

The Copper State Marching Podcast is back for Season 5! Hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek sit down with Luke Gall, co-founder of Ultimate Drill Book (UDB), to explore how technology is transforming the marching arts.

From its humble beginnings as a solution for organizing drill books to becoming an essential tool used by marching bands and drum corps around the world, UDB has changed the way students learn drill, directors run rehearsals, and staffs communicate. Luke shares the story behind UDB’s creation, how his own experiences in marching band and drum corps inspired its development, and wh...

Join hosts Martin Hebda, Aaron Vogel, Matt Kozacek, and Dan Hoffman as they look back on Season 4 of the Copper State Marching Podcast. The team reflects on memorable conversations, key takeaways, and the growth of the podcast over the past season. They also share a preview of discussion topics planned for Season 5 and discuss Elevate, including its impact and future opportunities for the marching arts community. Whether you've been listening since the beginning or are just discovering the podcast, this episode offers an inside look at where the show has been and where it's headed next.

In Part 2 of our Electronics & Sound Design series, the Copper State Marching Podcast dives deeper into the world of marching arts audio production with guests Zach Whittier and Claire Thorpe-Coody, two of Arizona’s leading voices in sound design and front ensemble electronics. From microphone placement and front ensemble amplification to narration production, synth programming, MainStage troubleshooting, and wireless microphone setups, this episode is packed with practical advice for students, educators, and designers alike.

The conversation explores how both guests learned electronics “by necessity,” proving that anyone with curiosity and a willingness to experiment can grow into a succ...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek dive into one of the most intimidating, but essential, parts of modern marching arts. Electronics and sound design. From spinning wheels of death and sample mishaps on championships day to practical advice for building a reliable sound setup, this conversation is packed with real world experiences and actionable tips for directors at every level.

Joining the podcast are sound design and audio specialists Zack Whittier and Claire Thorpe-Coody, who share their journeys into the world of marching audio and break down the...

Hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel bring Part 3 of our Student Leadership Series. The Copper State Marching Podcast welcomes nationally recognized leadership educator Jeremy Spicer, founder of Sassy Leadership. Jeremy shares the story behind building one of the most influential student leadership programs in the marching arts and offers practical insight into developing stronger student leaders, educators, and band cultures.

Throughout the episode, Jeremy dives into:

- The origins and evolution of Sassy Leadership

- Why relationships are the foundation of effective leadership

- Common mistakes young leaders make

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In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel have an engaging and candid conversation with leadership expert Scott Lang. Drawing from decades of experience as an educator and clinician, Scott shares powerful insights into what truly makes student leadership effective and why the selection process matters more than the training itself.

Listeners will learn:

• Why leadership selection is the most critical decision a director makes

• How to design a student leadership system that attracts the right students

• The five key traits of successful student leader...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman dive into one of the most challenging aspects of growing a successful program: color guard recruitment and retention.

Fresh off the winter season and the excitement of the WGI World Championships, the conversation begins with reflections on judging, growth, and the evolving landscape of the activity. From there the focus shifts to a powerhouse panel of Arizona color guard educators, Keith Casey, Ashley Schmit, and Austin Yost, who share real-world strategies and candid insights from years of experience building thriving programs.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel reconnect after a busy spring season filled with performances, competitions, and student achievements across Arizona’s marching arts community. They celebrate the success of ensembles performing in winter guard, percussion, and national events, while also inviting listeners to share their own end-of-year or summer band questions.

The heart of the episode features an engaging and insightful conversation with veteran music educator and leadership clinician Bill Humbert. Bill shares the origins of his widely respected leadership training program, emphasizing a powerful realization: great st...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman reconnect with designer Ryan Springler for Part 2 of their deep dive into show design, this time focusing on practical, real-world tools for building a marching production from the ground up.

Ryan then takes center stage to break down the nuts and bolts of designing a marching band show, including:

• Why starting with a strong concept (instead of music) creates more cohesive and impactful productions

• How to evaluate whether an idea is compelling, relevant, and translatable to the marching arts...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek wrap up their series spotlighting Arizona college band programs with a deep dive into the college marching band experience. They kick things off by sharing personal insights and advice for high school students considering continuing band in college highlighting the fun, friendships, and unique opportunities that come with it.

The conversation then shifts to a featured interview with Jim Hudson, Director of Athletic Bands at Arizona State University. Fresh off a whirlwind stretch of tournament travel, Hudson offers a behind-the-scenes look at...

The Copper State Marching Podcast is back with an information-packed episode as hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozack dive headfirst into the upcoming 2026 Arizona marching band season!

Fresh off the conclusion of color guard season and gearing up for percussion championships, Martin and Matt reflect on the fast-paced nature of the winter season—and the unique joy of watching their own kids fall in love with the marching arts. From proud “band parent” moments to the ever-relatable realization that their children have already seen every viral drum corps clip, this episode kicks off with heart and humor.

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In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek catch up on exciting band adventures—from an upcoming international performance tour in Ireland to reflections on unforgettable parade experiences. Then, they welcome special guest Dr. Stephen Meyer, Director of Bands at Northern Arizona University, for an in-depth conversation about leadership, teaching, and the ever-evolving marching arts.

Dr. Meyer shares his inspiring musical journey from Ohio to NAU, including impactful teaching experiences in Georgia and Texas, and his work with collegiate ensembles across the country. He offers a behind-the-scenes look at NAU’s ba...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek kick off their college marching band director series with a special guest: Chad Shoopman, Director of Athletic Bands at the University of Arizona.

Chad shares his incredible musical journey—from starting trumpet in Texas to performing professionally at Disney and eventually leading the Pride of Arizona. The conversation dives into what makes college marching band such a unique and rewarding experience, highlighting the differences from high school, the life-changing opportunities for students, and the powerful sense of community it creates.

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In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman sit down with show designer and program coordinator Ryan Springler for a deep dive into the art and strategy behind marching band show design.

The conversation explores what a program coordinator really does, how successful design teams collaborate, and why trust and communication are essential to building a thriving band program.

Along the way, Ryan discusses his creative process, the importance of developing a broad library of artistic influences, and why designing a show is less like sculpting marble and...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel continue their Director’s Cut series with a special guest: legendary arranger, composer, and educator Richard Saucedo. Known for his 31-year tenure at Carmel High School Marching Band and his work with top ensembles across the country, Saucedo shares insights from decades of experience designing marching band productions.

From his early days writing arrangements in high school to helping lead the judging community for Bands of America, Saucedo discusses how his philosophy of show design has evolved. He explains why successful programs st...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, presented by the Arizona Marching Band Association (AMBA), hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel kick things off with a look at the busy spring season—concert festivals, WGI trips, regional events, and community band galas that bring hundreds of students together in celebration of music.

Then, we launch the first installment of our brand-new Director’s Cut Series: Leading the Design Process as a Director with special guest Jeff Marchant, longtime director at Rincon/University High School in Tucson.

Jeff shares insights into building a nationally resp...

In this part two of a special champion spotlight series, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel sits down with two of Arizona’s 2025 Class Champions for an in-depth conversation about design, culture, and building programs that thrive.

Hamilton High School (Class 3A Champion) Directors Leo Werner and Jason Bullock share the creative process behind their cinematic production The Lost City, inspired by tales of El Dorado and featuring music from Jumanji and Holding Out for a Hero. From dramatic visual twists and storytelling through costume design to cultivating a championship culture that transcends classification, they offer practical in...

In this special champion spotlight episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel sit down with Arizona’s 2025 AzMBA class champions to celebrate their remarkable seasons and the stories behind their success.

From Mountain Ridge High School’s 5A championship show “The Summit”—a powerful mountain-themed journey of endurance and artistry—to Mesquite High School’s electrifying 1A-winning Miami Sound Machine tribute that had audiences dancing, and Horizon High School’s dramatic 2A production “Turn to Stone,” inspired by the myth of Medusa, this episode dives deep into the creativity, grit, and leadership that define champion...

In this season finale of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Aaron Vogel and Mark Veach celebrate the end of another incredible Arizona marching season. From surprise fireworks at championships to heartfelt reflections on community, growth, and resilience, the duo recaps highlights from every division—1A through 5A—spotlighting the champions, memorable performances, and moments that made 2025 unforgettable. They also discuss the power of Arizona’s band family, coming together through triumph and tragedy, and look ahead with optimism for the next generation of music educators.

Tune in for laughs, gratitude, and a reminder that the spirit of Ban...

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Aaron Vogel and Mark Hodge sit down with two of Arizona’s most respected visual educators, Dan Hoffman and Sierra Rogers, for an inspiring conversation on the do’s and don’ts of teaching visual performance.

Dan shares his journey from West Genesee High School in New York to the Arizona marching scene, drawing on his experiences with the Boston Crusaders, Oregon Crusaders, and Madison Scouts. He talks about the importance of building trust with students, focusing on process over product, and prioritizing rehearsal culture before technique. Dan’s...

In the debut episode of In the Lot, Mark Hodge takes the Copper State Marching Podcast on the road to the Eval show at Perry High School. This on-site episode captures the energy, humor, and community spirit of Arizona marching band culture with spontaneous interviews from directors, judges, and staff members across AZMBA.

Mark first chats with Joshua Simmons, band director from Cactus High School, who shares excitement about their 2024 production Spy School Musical and why Cactus returns to AzMBA every year. Then, listeners meet the dedicated and entertaining Perry High School band staff, who introduce themselves...