The Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast
Tired of overcrowded water? In love with catching wild fish in wild places? Addicted to exploration? Awed by the rugged beauty of nature? Then this is the podcast for you.We aim to build a library that covers everything related to fly fishing in the backcountry--tactics, flies, gear, survival skills, hiking, weather, outdoor hazards, navigation, camping, ecology, and much more.Whether you're a hardcore backcountry fly fisher or a newbie interested in getting out there, we've got something for you. Come join us in the pursuit of trout and solitude.
Beyond the Trail: Backcountry Fly Fishing by Boat with Abstract Watercraft
Not every backcountry fishing adventure starts with a pair of hiking boots. Sometimes, the best way to reach remote water is to hop in a boat and float your way into places that would be difficult, or downright impossible, to access on foot.
This week on the Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast, Ross sits down with Rich Batcheller, founder of Abstract Watercraft, to explore a side of backcountry fly fishing that doesn't get nearly as much attention on the show: fishing from boats.
Rich has spent decades fishing the rivers of the Pacific Northwest, from chasing...
Two Rods, One Trip: Choosing Fly Rods for Fall Backcountry Fishing
Fall fly fishing is a different animal. The days are shorter, the water is colder, the fish are less predictable, and the techniques that worked beautifully a few weeks ago might suddenly stop producing. And when you've hiked several miles into a remote canyon, discovering that you brought the wrong equipment can make for a pretty frustrating day.
In this episode of the Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast, Ross takes a deep dive into one of the most important and frequently overlooked aspects of shoulder-season fishing: choosing the right fly rods.
We'll talk about why Ross...
How to Talk to Other Anglers - Five Types of Fly Fishers You'll Meet on the River
Spend enough time fly fishing, and you're bound to encounter some interesting characters. Some are friendly, some are helpful, some are completely clueless, and some make you wonder how they've managed to survive this long without somebody throwing them into the river.
In this episode of the Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast, Ross breaks down five familiar types of anglers you're likely to encounter on the water: the Noob, the Pro, Frustrated Freddy, the Asshole, and the Old-Timer. From beginners desperately searching for a little guidance to self-proclaimed experts who know everything about fishing except how to catch...
Complaint Corner - Outdoor Ding-Dongs
Some people just shouldn't be allowed outside without adult supervision.
It's time for another installment of Complaint Corner on the Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast, and this time, Ross is taking aim at a particularly irritating species: the outdoor ding-dong. You know the type. The people who somehow manage to make the outdoors a little less enjoyable for everyone else, usually through some combination of laziness, obliviousness, and a complete disregard for basic etiquette.
From littering on mountain trails to wandering through strangers' campsites, blasting music in the wilderness, refusing to yield to uphill hikers, and...
Incremental Exploration: The Adventure of Going Back
There's a difference between visiting a wild place and actually knowing it.
In this episode, Ross explores one of his favorite approaches to backcountry fly fishing: incremental exploration. Rather than constantly chasing new destinations, incremental exploration is about returning to the same rivers, canyons, and wilderness areas over months or even years, gradually pushing farther, discovering new water, and developing a deeper understanding of the places we love.
Drawing on nearly a decade spent exploring one remote Colorado canyon, Ross discusses how individual trips build on one another, how familiarity opens the door to new...
Let's Fight About Nymphs
Fly fishing has a nymphing problem.
In this episode, Ross takes on one of the most persistent pieces of conventional wisdom in fly fishing: because trout eat most of their food underwater, anglers should spend most of their time nymphing. It sounds logical. It also misses a much bigger part of how trout actually behave—and can keep anglers locked into one style of fishing when plenty of other options are available.Â
From water temperature and insect activity to dry-dropper rigs and the different parts of the water column trout are paying attention to, this epi...
No More Summers
Eventually, there are no more summers.
In this episode, Ross reflects on impermanence, mortality, and the uncomfortable reality that none of us knows how many seasons we have left to fish, explore, hike mountains, or spend time in the wild places we love. After losing much of this summer to the demands of life, he began thinking about something even harder: you don't get that time back, and eventually, every one of us will catch our last fish, explore our last blue line, and experience our last season.Â
But this isn't an episode about being a...
One More Alpine Trip: Late-Season Fishing Above Treeline
The high alpine season is short. And sometimes we're just not ready for it to end.
In this episode, Ross breaks down the unique challenges of chasing trout above treeline as summer gives way to fall. From rapidly changing weather and the possibility of early snow to shorter days, colder nights, and increasingly narrow margins for error, late-season alpine trips require a different level of planning, preparation, and judgment than the same trip might demand only a few weeks earlier.Â
But the changing season affects more than the hike. Ross also digs into how falling t...
Don't Be Stupid: Wisdom and Judgment in the Backcountry
You can carry all the right gear and still make a catastrophically bad decision.
In this episode, Ross tells the story of encountering a father and his two adult sons lost deep in a Colorado wilderness area, miles from where they thought they were, without navigation, adequate water, filters, or much of anything else they would need if something went wrong. It raises a bigger question: what does it actually mean to be prepared for the backcountry? Â
The answer isn't just gear or technical skill. It's judgment. It's understanding your abilities, knowing the environment you're e...
Getting Lost Inside - Finding Your Way Back to the Water
Sometimes life just decides you don't get to go fishing.
Season 7 begins with a conversation about what happens when work, family, moving, injuries, emergencies, and everything else life throws at us keep us away from the places we need most. After spending nearly six weeks off the water, Ross reflects on what it feels like to become disconnected from something that isn't merely recreation, but an important source of peace, perspective, and connection with ourselves.
This episode explores why time outside matters, why we have to be relentlessly intentional about protecting it, and how to...
Closing Out Season 6 and Looking Ahead
Season 6 Finale: More Than Fly Fishing
As Season 6 comes to a close, Ross reflects on the incredible growth of the Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast and the community that has formed around it. From hopper fishing and backpacking to wilderness philosophy and personal growth, this season has been about far more than simply catching trout.Â
The episode looks back at the lessons, stories, and listener experiences that defined the season—including first alpine lake trips, first solo camps, and first steps into the backcountry. More than anything, it's a reminder that backcountry fly fishing isn't just abo...
Finding New Water: A Conversation with TroutRoutes
Finding fishable water has never been the hard part. Finding the right water—and knowing how to access it—is where things get complicated.
In this episode, Ross sits down with Erik Johnsen of TroutRoutes to talk about the evolution of digital mapping for fly anglers, the challenges of building a trout-specific navigation tool, and how better information can open the door to more exploration and more confidence on the water.Â
The conversation covers everything from the unique trout culture of Wisconsin’s Driftless region to the broader challenge of helping anglers...
Built for the Backcountry - A Conversation with Eric Bender of Kifaru
What makes outdoor gear actually good? And what happens when the people designing it are the same people out there beating it up in wild places?
In this episode, Ross sits down with Eric Bender, lead equipment designer at Kifaru International, to talk about what goes into building gear for serious backcountry use and why so much of the fly fishing world still misses the mark. From packs, shelters, and load systems to chest rigs, sidearm carry, and the importance of durability over gimmicks, this is a deep dive into the intersection of...
Field Notes - Building Relationships with Wild Places
Recorded from a tent somewhere in the Colorado backcountry, this first installment of Field Notes is an experiment in bringing the podcast out of the studio and into the places that inspire it. After a day spent exploring a rugged mountain creek full of small brook trout, deadfall, steep canyon walls, and hard-earned water, Ross reflects on why we return to wild places in the first place.Â
This episode explores the idea that backcountry fly fishing is about more than checking boxes, collecting destinations, or adding new waters to a list. Instead, it's about building relationships with l...
What I Carry: Backpacking Essentials for Backcountry Fly Fishing
Backpacking opens the door to some of the most rewarding experiences in fly fishing, but it also requires a different level of preparation, self-reliance, and planning than a simple day trip.
In this episode, Ross breaks down the backpacking system he uses for overnight and multi-day backcountry fly fishing trips. From shelters, sleep systems, food, water, and camp gear to safety equipment, fishing tackle, and wildlife considerations, this is a practical look at how to pack efficiently while still remaining comfortable, prepared, and safe in remote environments.Â
The conversation also explores why backpacking is about m...
Complaint Corner - Big Fish Bros
This season’s installment of Complaint Corner takes aim at one of the most persistent—and annoying—mentalities in fly fishing: the obsession with big fish at the expense of everything else.
Ross dives into the culture of the “Big Fish Bro,” the angler who treats fly fishing as a scoreboard, measures success exclusively in inches, and seems more interested in trophies, comparisons, and social media validation than the places, fish, and experiences that make the sport meaningful in the first place.
The conversation explores the difference between wild fish and managed fisheries, the role of artifici...
Beauty, Confrontation, and Judgment: The Honesty of Consequence in the Backcountry
After a close encounter with a rattlesnake in a remote canyon, Ross reflects on something bigger than fishing: why we’re really drawn to wild places in the first place.
This episode explores the difference between beauty and consequence—between simply enjoying nature and willingly stepping into environments that demand competence, awareness, preparation, and respect. From wilderness, risk, and mortality to self-reliance, personal growth, and the honesty that exists in places indifferent to human comfort, this is a deeper conversation about what the backcountry gives us that modern life often cannot.
This isn’t an episod...
When Does a Trip Become an Overnighter?
At some point, every serious backcountry angler runs into the same question: when does a fishing trip stop being a day trip and become an overnighter?
In this episode, Ross breaks down the thought process behind deciding when it’s time to camp, backpack, or prepare to spend the night outside. From mileage, elevation gain, and fishing time to weather, navigation problems, physical limits, and unforeseen emergencies, this is a practical look at the factors that can turn a simple outing into something much bigger.
This episode is also about more than logistics. It’s abou...
Get to the Hoppa - The Art of Fishing Terrestrials
Summer means one thing: it’s time to throw big bugs.
In this episode, Ross dives deep into the world of terrestrial fly fishing—grasshoppers, beetles, ants, and the explosive eats that make them one of the most addictive ways to catch trout. From favorite patterns and simple fly design to rigging hopper-droppers and understanding where these insects actually fit into the ecosystem, this is a full breakdown of how and why terrestrials work.
Ross explains why trout treat these bugs like high-calorie “steak dinners,” why the strikes are so violent, and why some of the bigg...
I Hate Waders (and So Should You) - Wet Wading the Backcountry
What if the most “normal” way of fishing isn’t actually the best way?
In this episode, Ross makes the case for ditching waders and embracing wet wading as the default approach for backcountry fly fishing. From the simple definition—getting in the water without a barrier between you and it—to the deeper philosophy behind it, this is a full breakdown of why wet wading changes the way you move, fish, and experience the outdoors.
Waders are hot, restrictive, heavy, and clunky—especially when you’re hiking miles into the backcountry. But more than that, they cre...
Systems and Efficiencies - The Power of Routine
The best days on the water don’t start at the river—they start at home.
In this episode, Ross breaks down the power of building systems and routines that make your fishing simpler, more efficient, and far less prone to failure. From preseason prep to dialing in your gear, pack, and process, this is about removing friction before it ever has a chance to show up on the water.
Because missed opportunities, wasted time, and avoidable mistakes usually aren’t bad luck—they’re the result of weak systems.
This episode is a practica...
Frontier Water: The Wild Still Close to Home
Season 6 of the BCFF Podcast begins with a reminder: you don’t have to go far to find something wild.
In this episode, Ross explores the idea of frontier water—those overlooked stretches of river and hidden pockets of backcountry that exist just beyond the edges of well-known fisheries, and sometimes even just outside of town. These are places that don’t give themselves up easily. They require effort, curiosity, and a willingness to step off the path—but for those who do, the reward is solitude, beauty, and fish that feel earned.
This epi...
Season 5 Finale: Looking Back, Looking Ahead
Season 5 of The Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast comes to a close with a look at how far the show has come—and where it’s headed next.
In this final episode of the season, Ross reflects on the growth of the podcast, the wide range of topics covered throughout Season 5, and the community that’s formed around thoughtful conversations about fly fishing, wilderness, stewardship, and outdoor life. It’s also a candid discussion about what’s changing behind the scenes, including potential shifts in season structure, the addition of video content, and how the show can contin...
Rebuilding After the Storm: A Conversation with The Beacon Network in North Carolina
When disaster hits, the damage doesn’t stop at roads and homes—it tears through rivers, streams, and the communities that depend on them.
In this episode, Ross sits down with Jared Dubin and Miguel Huerta of The Beacon Network, a small, community-based nonprofit doing critical recovery work along the South Toe River in North Carolina following the devastation of Hurricane Helene.
The conversation explores what recovery actually looks like on the ground—navigating a complicated political environment, coordinating volunteers and resources, and staying focused on long-term watershed health rather than quick fixes. Jared and Miguel...
At the Edge of the Steppe: A Conversation with Peter Fong at Mongolia River Outfitters
Some places change you—not because they’re comfortable or accessible, but because they demand something from you. Deep in Mongolia’s backcountry, far from roads, towns, and certainty, those places still exist.
In this episode, Ross sits down with Peter Fong, head guide with Mongolia River Outfitters, the team that made Ross's life-altering expedition into one of the wildest landscapes on Earth possible. Driving deep into the steppe and living on the land in one of the most remote (and cold) places on the planet, this was a trip that reshaped how Ross t...
Protecting the West's Last Best Rivers with Western Rivers Conservancy
In this episode, Ross sits down with Allen Law of Western Rivers Conservancy to talk about one of the most effective—and often overlooked—approaches to protecting wild rivers in the American West.
Western Rivers Conservancy works to permanently protect rivers by acquiring them and then handing them back to the public in various ways. Allen explains how this model works, why it’s so powerful, and how it differs from traditional conservation strategies that rely solely on regulation or advocacy.
The conversation dives into what it really takes to keep rivers wild in the face o...
Complaint Corner - Guide, Not God
Not every guide deserves the title.
In this season’s installment of Complaint Corner, Ross takes aim at a growing problem in fly fishing: guides who don’t really know the craft, don’t respect the resource, and treat the river like an amusement park ride instead of a living place that deserves care and humility.
This episode isn’t about ego or gatekeeping—it’s about standards. About the difference between guiding and simply putting people on fish. About what happens when profit comes before stewardship, and when wild places are reduced to content, numbers, and...
It's Knot that Complicated: The Only Knots You Need
Fly fishing doesn’t need a dozen different knots to be effective. In fact, most anglers can do everything they need on the water with just a small handful—if they actually know how and when to use them.
In this episode, Ross breaks down the core knots every fly angler should have dialed, why these knots work, and where they fit into real-world backcountry fishing scenarios. This isn’t about memorizing an encyclopedia of knots—it’s about simplicity, confidence, and efficiency when it matters most.
Whether you’re new to fly fishing or just tired o...
The Tough Days: Understanding and Salvaging Hard Days on the Water
Every angler knows the feeling—those days when the river goes quiet, the fish disappear, and nothing you do seems to change it. Slow days on the water can mess with your head if you let them, but they don’t have to break you.
In this episode, Ross dives into the art of getting through the tough days: how to interpret what the river is telling you, how to manage the mental side of a slow bite, and how to stay productive even when the fishing isn’t. From reading conditions with clarity to shifting your expect...
The Psychology of the Cold
The cold isn’t just a condition—it’s a mindset.
When the temps drop and the rivers turn steel-gray, most anglers call it quits. But if you know how to prepare yourself mentally, winter becomes one of the most rewarding seasons of the year.
This episode dives into the mental game behind fishing through the harshest months—how to stay focused, stay sharp, and stay out there when everyone else goes home.
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Thanksgiving on the Water: Peace, Gratitude, and the Responsibility We Carry
Fly fishing gives us more than fish. It gives us quiet. It gives us space. It gives us a way to breathe in a world that never stops moving. And in this Thanksgiving episode, Ross reflects on the gratitude we owe to the waters that keep us steady, the wild places that make us feel alive, and the moments of peace that only a river can provide.
This isn’t a gear episode or a tactics breakdown. It’s a meditation on what this sport means.
Ross also explores the responsibility that comes with gratitude—how ca...
The Fly-Tying Sermon - Why, What, When, and How You Should Tie Your Own Flies
There’s a moment every angler reaches when the flies in the shop just don’t cut it anymore. Maybe it’s a pattern that never quite works the way it should. Maybe it’s that tiny backcountry creek where trout eat everything except what’s commercially tied. Or maybe it’s just the urge to create something that’s yours.
In this episode, Ross delivers a full fly-tying sermon—part philosophy, part instruction, and part hard-earned truth—on why you should be tying your own flies, what materials and tools you actually need, when to start, and how to learn...
All About Indies
It might not be glamorous, but it sure as hell catches fish.
In this episode, Ross takes a deep dive into indicator nymphing—the most misunderstood, underrated, and effective technique in all of fly fishing. From foam to yarn to Air Locks and beyond, he breaks down the pros and cons of different indicator types, how to rig them, and when (and when not) to use them.
This episode is packed with practical insights to make you more effective on the water—and maybe help you see “bobber fishing” in a whole new light.<...
Highways through the Last Frontier: Season 5 Kickoff
The wild doesn’t stay wild on its own.
In this opening episode of Season 5, Ross returns from Mongolia—where he chased the legendary taimen on some of the most remote water on Earth—and reflects on what he found there. Among endless stretches of untouched country, a massive new highway project is cutting its way through the steppe, a reminder that even the most isolated landscapes are not beyond the reach of civilization.
This episode sets the stage for the season ahead, exploring not just backcountry fly fishing (although there will be plenty of that...
More Politics and Closing Out Season 4
Season 4 of The Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast comes to a close, but the conversation doesn’t stop here. In this final episode, Ross reflects on the BCFF Podcast journey so far—and turns to one of the most important conservation issues facing our public lands today: the proposed repeal of the Roadless Rule.
The Roadless Rule protects more than 58 million acres of America’s wildest country, safeguarding fish habitat, clean water, and the kind of backcountry that makes this podcast possible. Its repeal would open the door to development, fragmentation, and the loss of places that d...
Fishing the Flip - Figuring Out Turnover Season
As summer gives way to fall, backcountry anglers face one of the trickiest transitions of the year: turnover season. Weather gets funky, waters cool, insect activity changes, and spawning begins to influence behavior.
In this episode of The Backcountry Fly Fishing Podcast, Ross unpacks how to approach this narrow edge season. He explains how (and where) to plan your trips, the extra gear you need in your backpack, what to expect from insect behavior as hatches taper off, which pattern you need in your box, and how spawning cycles begin to come into play.Â
The g...
Into the Muskwa-Kechika with Northern Rockies Adventures
Some places are so wild and remote they feel almost untouched. In northern British Columbia, just outside the vast Muskwa-Kechika Management Area, that kind of wilderness still exists. And it’s here that Urs and Daniel Schildnecht built Northern Rockies Adventures—a lodge and outfitting business that brings anglers and adventurers into some of the most rugged and spectacular country on the continent.
In this episode, Ross sits down with Urs and Daniel after spending days flying by float plane, fishing lakes and rivers that few will ever see. They talk about the orig...
Designing Innovative Backcountry Fly Fishing Gear with Colter Backcountry
The backcountry demands more from both anglers and their equipment. When every ounce matters and every mile is earned, the right gear can make the difference between a long, grueling slog and a trip you’ll never forget.
In this episode, Ross sits down with brothers Patrick and Daniel Bauman of Colter Backcountry, where two brothers with a passion for the outdoors are designing fly fishing gear built specifically for anglers who venture deep into the wild.
If you’re a fly angler who hikes farther, camps deeper, and thrives on the adventure as much as t...
The Power of Intuition and Training with James Hamilton
There’s a voice inside you that knows when something isn’t right. Sometimes it whispers. Sometimes it roars. The key is learning to listen.
In this episode, Ross sits down with security expert and former FBI agent James Hamilton from Hamilton Security Group for a deep dive into the nature of intuition—what it is, where it comes from, and why it might be the most important tool you have in the backcountry and beyond.
They explore how intuition works under pressure, how to sharpen your situational awareness, and why training and preparation can mean t...
Complaint Corner - Spot Burning
Backcountry fly fishing is about mastery—learning the water, the fish, and the environment. It’s about exploration, achievement, and growth. It’s about earning your fish and your spots, not having them handed to you.
In the second edition of Complaint Corner, Ross takes on the problem of spot burning—how it harms pristine places, ruins the fishing experience, and robs anglers of one of the best parts of the sport: discovering it for themselves.
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