Ranchonomics
Welcome to Ranchonomics! Where we empower you to build a better ranch and transform your operation into a thriving business. This podcast is brought to you by Ranch Right LLC, and together we will look at essential strategies, mindsets, and processes needed to take command of your financials and master the business metrics that make all the difference. If you are ready to start winning at ranching, then you are in the right spot. With each episode of Ranchonomics, you will hear inspiring success stories, gain simple yet powerful financial literacy tips, and listen to insightful interviews with industry experts...
103. When Cattle Prices Are High, Stop Looking at Price and Start Looking at Relationships with Wally Olson
Record cattle prices can create just as many challenges as opportunities. In this episode, John Haskell and Wally Olson discuss why producers should stop focusing on headline prices and start paying attention to the relationships within the market. Whether you're in the stocker business or the cow-calf sector, profitability comes from understanding value, costs, and margin, not from chasing the highest prices.
The conversation explores value of gain, market volatility, cow herd turnover, and the importance of making decisions based on current opportunities rather than past prices or future forecasts. Using real-world examples, John and Wally walk...
Steve & Sarah Hisel — Proof That Starting from Scratch in Ranching Is Possible [Ranchonomics Stories Ep 2]
In this episode of Ranchonomics Stories, John Haskell sits down with Steve and Sarah Hisel to share their journey of building a ranching business from scratch. Without inheriting a family operation, they navigated a series of unexpected turns, difficult decisions, and calculated risks to create opportunities for themselves and their growing family. Along the way, they discuss the mindset shifts, education, and persistence that helped them move from dreaming about ranching to actually making it a reality.
Steve and Sarah reflect on lessons learned about financial discipline, surrounding yourself with the right people, evaluating opportunities, and resisting...
102. The Land Is the Unit of Production: Joel Ham on Ranching That Actually Works
In this episode, John Haskell and Wally Olson sit down with longtime West Texas rancher Joel Ham to discuss the management principles that have transformed the way he thinks about ranching, grazing, and profitability. Drawing on decades of experience and mentorship from leaders such as Bud Williams, Joel explains why the land, not the animal, must be viewed as the true unit of production. The conversation explores how improving land productivity, stockmanship, and grazing management can dramatically impact long-term ranch profitability and resilience in harsh, low-rainfall environments.
Joel also shares lessons learned from low-stress stockmanship, holistic management...
Dave & Carol Perry - From 10 Cows to the American Dream [Ranchonomics Stories Ep 1]
In the first episode of the new Ranchonomics Storytelling series, host John Haskell sits down with Dave and Carol Perry to share how they built a ranching operation from humble beginnings through decades of hard work, financial discipline, and persistence. Starting with just 10 cows and very little capital, the Perrys discuss the sacrifices, setbacks, and unconventional decisions that allowed them to gradually grow their business while staying focused on long-term sustainability and family goals.
Throughout the conversation, Dave and Carol reflect on lessons learned from droughts, debt, injury, volatile cattle markets, and raising a family while building...
101. The Smarter Way to Manage Invasive Weeds on Your Ranch with Ben Habig
Invasive weeds can quietly reduce carrying capacity and create long-term management challenges across a ranch. In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Ben Habig to discuss how prescribed grazing with goats and sheep can provide a biological alternative to chemical weed control. Using species like leafy spurge and houndstongue as examples, Ben explains how targeted grazing can reduce weed pressure, improve pasture utilization, and support healthier soils and riparian areas.
The conversation also explores the realities of managing small ruminants, including fencing, predators, labor, and marketing challenges. Ben shares how his business partners with landowners across...
100. What Bob Metzger Taught Us About Wealth, Risk & Relationships – Wally Olson
In this special 100th episode of Ranchonomics, host John Haskell sits down with longtime cattleman and investor Wally Olson to reflect on the life and legacy of their close friend, Bob Metzger. Through stories about business deals, investing, cattle trading, and friendship, the conversation explores what Bob taught us; the principles he lived by, including disciplined money management, delayed gratification, risk mitigation, and the power of compounding over time. More than anything, the episode highlights why ranching is ultimately a relationship business built on trust, communication, and surrounding yourself with good people.
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99. The Most Valuable Asset on Your Ranch Isn’t Land or Cattle
What separates two ranches with the exact same land, cattle, and infrastructure from having completely different outcomes? In this episode, host John Haskell explores the idea that the most valuable asset in any operation is not the ranch itself, but the knowledge, stewardship, and decision-making behind it. Using examples from learning curves, investing, grazing management, and succession, he explains how knowledge compounds over time, much like money does.
He breaks down how growth happens across multiple domains like grazing, stockmanship, marketing, financial literacy, and relationships, and how those areas begin compounding together when intentionally developed. At its...
98. Stockmanship & Range Management with the Indrelands
What happens when better grazing management changes not only your ranch, but the entire ecosystem around it? In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Roger and Betsy Indreland to discuss how a shift in thinking around soil health, recovery, and grazing management transformed their operation. What began as skepticism after hearing regenerative grazing concepts eventually became a complete rethinking of forage management, drought resilience, and ranch profitability.
The Indrelands share how focusing on cover, stockpiled feed, and longer recovery periods dramatically improved both productivity and resilience on their ranch. They explain how better grazing management increased...
97. The Rancher’s Guide to Surviving the Unexpected with Dallas Mount
Every ranch will face the unexpected. The question is not if, but when. In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Dallas Mount to discuss how ranchers can better prepare for uncertainty, manage risk, and build operations that withstand shocks without falling apart. From droughts to market swings to personal challenges, the conversation focuses on building resilience into the business before problems arise.
Dallas shares practical ways to think about risk, including maintaining flexibility, managing debt carefully, and avoiding decisions that limit your options. They also discuss the importance of margin, liquidity, and having a clear plan...
96. How to Build a Better Ranch by Letting Go of Control with Emilie Hopson
Delegation sounds simple, but for most ranchers, it is one of the hardest skills to implement. In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Ranch Right HR Advisor Emilie Hopson to break down why leaders struggle to let go of control and how that limitation can cap the growth of the entire business. They discuss how the real goal of delegation is not to make life easier immediately, but to build long-term capacity by transferring ownership, not just assigning tasks.
This conversation walks through a practical framework for delegation, including the importance of responsibility, authority, and accountability...
95. WITB vs. WOTB: The Ranch Meeting System You’re Missing
Most ranches don’t have too many meetings. They have the wrong ones. In this episode, host John Haskell breaks down the difference between working in the business (WITB) and working on the business (WOTB), and why both are essential to running an efficient and profitable operation. From daily check-ins to long-term strategic planning, he outlines a practical meeting framework designed to improve communication, coordination, and decision-making across the ranch.
John walks through the cadence of effective ranch meeting systems, from quick daily stand-ups and weekly planning sessions to monthly financial reviews and quarterly strategic conversations. He al...
94. Ranching, Money, and Freedom with Crockett Carothers
What does financial freedom actually look like in a ranching life, and is it possible without sacrificing time with your family? In this episode, John Haskell welcomes back Crockett Carothers to explore the relationship between money, time, and freedom, and how ranchers can begin thinking differently about income, scalability, and opportunity.
Crockett shares how his desire to provide more for his family, without giving up time at home, pushed him to pursue business models beyond traditional labor-for-income work. The conversation centers on separating time from money, building scalable and residual income streams, and using tools like debt...
93. Why Ranchers Need to Think Like Entrepreneurs Featuring Crockett Carothers
What if the biggest opportunity in ranching isn’t working harder, but thinking differently? In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Crockett Carothers to explore how adopting an entrepreneurial mindset can fundamentally change the trajectory of a ranching operation and the people behind it.
Crockett shares his journey from a traditional cowboy lifestyle to becoming deeply immersed in business, sales, and personal finance, and how that shift was driven by a desire to provide for his family without sacrificing the ranching way of life. The conversation dives into the importance of value creation, understanding money, and br...
92. The Management Decisions That Transformed Noble Ranch
What does it actually take to transform a ranching operation, not just incrementally, but fundamentally? In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Ryan Noble to walk through the key decisions that reshaped Noble Ranch, from its early days of financial pressure to a high-performing, flexible business built on intentional management.
Ryan shares the pivotal moments that drove change, including leveraging land over livestock, utilizing leased cows to reduce risk, and ultimately making the difficult decision to exit the cow-calf business entirely. Through education, disciplined financial analysis, and a willingness to challenge long-held assumptions, Noble Ranch shifted...
91. The Hidden Risk Inside Today’s Record Cattle Prices with Ryan Noble & Wally Olson
Record cattle prices have created strong profits across the industry, but how much of that success is actually driven by good management versus simple market inflation? In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Ryan Noble and Wally Olson to break down the critical difference between inflation, deflation, appreciation, and depreciation, and why confusing these forces can lead to costly missteps, even in the best markets.
As cattle values have surged over the past several years, many producers have seen their balance sheets grow without realizing how much of that gain is driven by external market forces...
90. Good Debt, Bad Debt, and Toxic Debt in Agriculture
Debt is one of the most powerful and misunderstood tools in agriculture. In this solo episode, host John Haskell explains how ranchers and farmers should think about debt not as inherently good or bad, but in relation to the asset it finances and the cash flow it generates. He walks through why matching the term of a loan to the life of the asset is critical and how properly structured debt can support productive investments that strengthen the business.
John also explores several common debt traps that can quietly weaken an operation over time. From borrowing for...
89. When Growth Creates New Risk in Your Business with Tyler Dawley
As a business grows, the risks change. What works when you are selling small amounts to many customers may not work when your operation begins moving larger volumes and dealing with much bigger invoices. In this episode, John Haskell sits down with returning guest Tyler Dawley to talk about how growth in Tyler’s pasture-raised chicken business has introduced new financial risks.
Tyler shares lessons he is learning in real time about protecting a business as it scales, including the emotional challenge of enforcing payment terms and why larger transactions require more formal agreements and processes. The co...
88. The 5-Part Inventory System Every Rancher Should Be Using
In this episode, John Haskell sits down with Wally Olson to revisit the classic inventory triangle of money, feed or grass, and livestock, and expand it into a five-part system by adding time and people. Together, they discuss why these two additions matter and how thinking in terms of a full inventory framework can improve flexibility, risk management, and profitability.
From maintaining cash reserves and grass ahead of you to investing in people and managing livestock to build lighter, younger inventory, this conversation offers a practical lens for evaluating your ranch business every day.
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87. Why Good Operations Aren’t Enough
In this solo episode, host John Haskell breaks down what he calls the five pillars of business and explains why operational excellence alone will not create a successful ranch. While many producers pride themselves on growing grass, managing cattle, and producing a quality product, John argues that operations are only one piece of a much larger system.
He walks through marketing and sales, finance, human resources, administration, and operations, explaining how each pillar interacts with the others. A business that overemphasizes production while neglecting marketing, cash management, people management, or administrative discipline will eventually struggle. True success...
86. From Curiosity to Company: Building Covers & Co from the Ground up with Joseph Gardiner
In this episode, John Haskell welcomes back Joseph Gardiner to talk about how curiosity turned into a company. Joseph shares the story behind launching Covers & Co, what problem he saw in the marketplace, and how he moved from idea to action while still managing the demands of his farming operation.
The conversation walks through the realities of starting something from scratch, including testing ideas, managing risk, navigating uncertainty, and staying disciplined when early traction is slow. Joseph explains how the same principles that guide good marketing and financial decision-making on the farm also apply when building a...
85. Doing the Right Thing Until It Works
In this episode, host John Haskell speaks to people navigating slow starts, tight margins, and the frustration that comes when progress is not immediately visible. He explains why doing the right things often feels unrewarding early on, even when those decisions are setting the foundation for long-term success.
John emphasizes the importance of having a clear plan, measuring progress along the way, and staying disciplined long enough to build momentum. Drawing on lessons from Bud Williams, he reminds listeners that success rarely comes from quick fixes, but from consistently doing the right thing until it works and...
84. From Conferences to Change: What Actually Sticks with Joseph Gardiner
In this episode, John Haskell welcomes back Joseph Gardiner to unpack what actually sticks after a conference is over. They talk candidly about why so much good information never turns into real change and what separates ideas that fade from ones that reshape how a ranch operates.
Joseph shares practical insights on turning inspiration into implementation, including how to filter what you hear, decide what matters most for your operation, and build simple systems that lead to follow-through. The conversation focuses on mindset, discipline, and intentional action rather than chasing the next new idea.
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83. Implementing Sell Buy Marketing in Canada with Joseph Gardiner
In this episode, John Haskell is joined by Canadian farmer Joseph Gardiner to explore how Sell Buy Marketing principles translate beyond U.S. borders and into a volatile, high-stakes market. Joseph shares how rethinking cattle as financial assets rather than inventory transformed his operation, sharpened decision-making, and improved cash flow during uncertain times.
The conversation covers cow depreciation, intrinsic value, and the idea that keeping an animal is a buying decision made every day. Joseph explains how applying these concepts helped him confidently make large cattle purchases, uncover overlooked opportunities, and generate meaningful profits even when markets...
82. Resilience Framework: A Ranch Right Conference Preview with Mike Glover
In this episode, host John Haskell is joined by Mike Glover, a former Special Forces SGM and CIA contractor, for a conversation about preparedness, decision-making under pressure, and why resilience is a learned skill rather than a personality trait. Mike will be a featured speaker at the upcoming Ranch Right Conference, and this discussion offers a preview of the resilience framework he will be teaching there.
Mike shares lessons from his military career, including how deliberate planning, contingencies, and team alignment reduce chaos when things go wrong. He and John connect those ideas directly to ranching and...
81. Self-Leadership, Teamwork, and Resilience: A Ranch Right Conference Preview
Strong ranch businesses are built on more than good markets and solid production. In this episode, John is joined by Joshua and Tara Dukart, two of the speakers at the upcoming Ranch Right Conference, to talk about why self-leadership, teamwork, and resilience matter more than ever in today’s ranching environment.
Joshua and Tara share insights from their own experience working with agricultural families and teams, focusing on how personal accountability shapes leadership, how communication affects culture, and why resilience is a learned skill rather than an innate trait. The conversation explores the human side of running a...
80. Eye for Cattle: How a 16-Year-Old Built a Buyer’s Reputation
Most people assume cattle buying is a business that takes decades to break into. In this episode, John sits down with Eli Hopping, a 16-year-old cattle buyer from northeastern Oklahoma, to talk about how skill, discipline, and reputation matter far more than age when having an eye for cattle. Joined by Wally Olson, the conversation highlights what it really takes to succeed in the sale barn and why doing a good job consistently is still the fastest way to earn trust.
Eli shares how growing up around auction barns shaped his eye for cattle, how he learned...
79. Inside an Organic Row Crop Operation: Markets, Mistakes & Mindset with Reece Klug
At a time when conventional row crop margins are under heavy pressure, John sits down with Reece Klug to explore a very different path. Reece farms with his family in eastern Nebraska, running both conventional and organic acres alongside a feedlot operation. In this conversation, they dig into what organic production actually looks like in practice, beyond the buzzwords and assumptions.
Reece shares how their operation transitioned acres into organic production, the mistakes they made along the way, and the mindset shift required to move away from input-driven systems toward biology, rotations, and management. They discuss soil...
78. The Rancher’s Guide to FSA Programs: Cash, Rules & Real Advantages
Most ranchers know the Farm Service Agency exists, but few fully understand the programs, payments, and opportunities available to them. In this episode, John sits down with two former FSA employees, Kailee Butterfield and Micayla Giffin, to break down how these programs really work and how ranchers can use them as practical management tools rather than confusing government paperwork.
Kailee and Micayla explain why participating in FSA programs can create a real competitive advantage, how deadlines and rules actually function at the county level, and what ranchers need to know before signing up for contracts or disaster...
77. Cash, Profit, and Taxes: How to Balance All Three
Tax planning is one of the most overlooked tools in ranch management, yet it can save a business thousands of dollars when done well. In this solo episode, John walks through the practical process Ranch Right uses with ranching clients to plan ahead, avoid surprises, and make smart decisions before the year ends. He explains why tax strategy should never be about panic spending and why good planning always starts with accurate numbers and a clear picture of the year.
John also breaks down how different types of income are taxed, how brackets work, and how ranchers...
76. Hidden Opportunities in Hard Times: A Conversation with Kim Barker
Hard times can feel like the end of the world, but what if they're actually the start of something better?
In this episode, I sit down with long-time friend and rancher, Kim Barker from Walnut Creek Farms in Oklahoma, to talk about the unexpected ways drought, high prices, family challenges, and even personal setbacks can become turning points in your ranching business. Kim has lived through plenty of ups and downs, and he shares how a crisis mindset can keep you stuck, while an opportunity mindset can turn the same situation into a launchpad.
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75. Are Your Cattle Covered? Trucking Risks in a High-Price Market with Julie Davidson
When cattle prices climb to levels few of us have ever seen, the dollar value of a single load can quietly double, or even triple. And while most ranchers wouldn’t dream of driving uninsured, many are still hauling cattle with cargo coverage that hasn’t been updated in years. Are your cattle covered?
In this episode, Julie Davidson of High Country Coverage Consulting returns to walk us through the real risks and the practical steps every rancher should take before cattle hit the road. From radius limits and VIN-specific coverage to knowing who’s responsible when a neig...
74. How to Buy Right and Market Smarter with Wally Olson
Buying cattle in a high market can feel intimidating, but as Wally Olson reminds us, the price doesn’t matter nearly as much as the relationship. In this episode, John and Wally dig into how to buy cattle the right way, why you always need to sell before you buy, and how understanding the value of gain, weight classes, and local market culture helps you make confident, profitable decisions no matter where the market sits.
Wally draws on decades of experience as a rancher, marketer, and educator to break down practical buying strategies, from barn cards to un...
73. Avoiding Health Insurance Headaches: Enrollment Tips with Julie Davidson
It’s open-enrollment season, and if you’re sorting through health insurance options, you’re not alone. In this episode, John sits down with insurance expert Julie Davidson to walk through what ranch families need to know before choosing a Marketplace plan, from how subsidies actually work to what those deductibles and out-of-pocket numbers really mean.
Julie breaks down why your modified adjusted gross income is the key number that drives your subsidy, why calling to enroll is almost always better than doing it online, and what to watch for if you’re choosing between work-provided coverage and Mark...
72. The Most Undervalued Skill in Ranching: Knowing Your Inventory
Most ranchers know their cow herd, but not everyone truly knows their inventory. In this solo episode, John breaks down why keeping track of what you own is one of the most overlooked (and most profitable) skills in ranching.
Whether you run stockers or a cow-calf operation, knowing your inventory helps you make smarter sell/buy decisions, manage your assets like an investor, and keep your operation flexible in a changing market. John walks through simple, hands-on ways to track and tag animals so you always know what you’ve got, from age breakdowns and pregnancy status to...
71. Making Smarter Selling Decisions with Wally Olson
When should you sell your cattle, and how do you know if it’s the right move? In this episode, host John Haskell sits down with Wally Olson, longtime rancher and sell/buy marketer, to dig into the mechanics and mindset behind selling cattle well.
From recognizing when your cattle are overvalued to choosing between selling in the country, through the sale barn, or on a video auction, Wally breaks down the numbers and the “why” to make smarter selling decisions. John and Wally also unpack real-world factors like shrink, commissions, and freight costs, as well as how to...
70. Staying Covered: Smart Insurance Moves for Ranchers in a Changing Market
Insurance might not be the most exciting part of running a ranch, but it can make or break your operation when things go wrong. In this episode, host John Haskell sits down with Julie Davidson, resident insurance expert, to unpack smart insurance moves and what every rancher should know about coverage, deductibles, and managing risk in a shifting market. Julie explains how rethinking your deductible could save you serious money, how to weigh the pros and cons of filing a claim, and what to look for when choosing between replacement cost and actual cash value coverage. Whether you’re pr...
69. Avoiding Insurance Pitfalls: What Every Rancher Should Know
Host John Haskell welcomes Julie Davidson to the podcast today to discuss trends in the insurance industry and how to avoid common insurance pitfalls. They discuss changes to underwriting and the increased use of drone technology, when to use insurance apps (and when not to), and what to consider before making an insurance claim. Julie also highlights the importance of understanding deductibles, especially for comprehensive coverage, and the potential impact of claim frequency on premiums. She highlights the need for proper eligibility checks when switching policies and the possible challenges of insuring in high-risk areas, such as those prone...
68. SnapLand Case Studies with Ryan White
Ryan White is back on the podcast today to discuss the importance of land monitoring in ranching operations. He shares several SnapLand case studies that highlight the solutions provided by his ecosystem services company for businesses and landowners. These cases really show how different businesses and their leadership are taking some of the best feedback and natural resource accounting and turning that into revenue streams for their multi-generational operations. Ryan and John also discuss the value of data in land management, citing a food brand sale worth $300-$500 million based on land health. They emphasize the need for ranchers...
67. Ecosystem Services & Ranching’s Future with Ryan White
SnapLands founder Ryan White joins host John Haskell on the podcast to discuss how their ecosystem services help people manage their land by creating efficient feedback loops between their land and businesses. With Ryan's background in land restoration, he shares why it's important to have a holistic approach to land management by creating a continuous improvement system for natural resources. Ryan and John also discuss the components of SnapLands' Land Management Impact Program and the packages and services offered by SnapLands to help ranchers optimize their land use and profitability. Their goal is to attract future leaders in the...
66. Protecting Your Ranch: Insurance Insights with Julie Davidson
Julie Davidson, an experienced insurance professional, joins host John Haskell on the podcast today to share her farm and ranch insurance insights and considerations for how to protect your ranch. Key insights include the importance of regular policy reviews, the pitfalls of outdated coverage, and the critical role of insurance scores in setting premiums. Julie also emphasizes the need for adequate liability insurance, including liability umbrella and premises policies, and explains the impact of claim frequency on insurance ratings.
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