The Outer Side
The Outer Side is a weekly podcast for anyone who loves 4WD, outdoor adventure, exploring off the grid, and the search for wild experiences.Join me each week as I chat with people from all walks of life who will share their stories, with the aim of motivating you to spend more time exploring outside, and offroad.From 4x4s to camping, fishing, diving, hiking, dirt bikes, and everything in between.If it happens outside, you’ll find it on The Outer Side. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#88 - CAM CRONIN
Cam Cronin is a well-known fisho from the New South Wales Central Coast, who has achieved more fishing success at a young age than many will see in a lifetime.
Through passion, hard work, and dedication Cam has honed his craft to become a land-based lure-fishing expert - with a relentless focus on catching trophy Mulloway from the shore up and down the NSW coast.
Tony and Cam chat about his childhood fishing on family holidays, his early years chasing Kingfish and Jewfish in Sydney Harbour, his ongoing obsession with catching Mulloway on...
#87 - LIVIN 4x4
Sam Reed owns and runs LIVIN 4x4 - a Victorian-based YouTube channel focused on sharing real and authentic 4WD adventures.
Tony and Sam chat about his early passion for 4x4s, the progression into chasing tougher wheeling tracks in his chopped 80 series Land Cruiser, how the YouTube channel started with his brother, touring Australia in his N80 HiLux, and heaps more.
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#86 - BLUE FLAME AUTOMOTIVE
David Swarbrick runs Blue Flame Automotive, a highly-regarded 4WD specialist workshop with two locations in NSW.
Tony and Dave chat about recent changes to legislation around Second Stage Manufacturing, what it means for the future of the 70 series Land Cruiser, the rise of American 4x4 trucks in Australia, his ongoing obsession with Hummers, and heaps more.
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#85 - LEYLANDS TRAVEL AUSTRALIA
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is absolutely honoured to be joined by Mal Leyland (of Leyland Brothers fame), and his daughter, Carmen.
Mal and Mike Leyland were the original Aussie overland explorers, touring across the country and producing feature films back in the early 1960s!
After recording 3 feature films, the brothers moved into TV, creating 'Off the Beaten Track', 'Trekabout' and 'Ask the Leyland Brothers' - going on to make hundreds of episodes showcasing the Australian outback and overland 4x4 travel. The Leylands are wildly considered as the very first...
#84 - THE GIRL ON A BIKE
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Vanessa Ruck AKA The Girl on a Bike.
Vanessa is an incredible woman who was involved in a life-changing accident in 2014, before deciding the best path to recovery was to immerse herself in the world of motorbikes. Vanessa took this new passion to the next level, competing in offroad races across the UK and Europe, as well as Red Bull Romaniacs Hard Enduro Rallye, the original Dakar rally, the Tunisia Desert Challenge and heaps more.
Tony and Vanessa chat about her early...
#83 - PERFORMANCE TOURERS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Liv & Tommy Barnes - the owners of Performance Tourers 4x4 and This is Liv'n.
Tony chats to Liv & Tommy about what they've been up to since they last appeared on the show and where they've been on recent adventures, before taking a deep dive into one of their biggest passions in life - recreational hunting.
Liv & Tommy share the reasons they hunt, how they do it, the bond between Liv and her dogs, and the benefits to physical and mental health that ke...
#82 - AZVENTURES
In this episode, Tony catches up with Azza from Azventures Australia & MITS Alloy to chat all things Ford Super Duty.
Az has been fortunate enough to spend quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the ARB / Mits Alloy Super Duty over the last 6 months, and I pick his brain on what he likes, what he doesn't like, and how he believes other 4WD manufacturers might respond.
The boys also chat about the changes to SSM modification laws on V8 Cruisers, the future of EVs for 4x4 Touring, and whether or not...
#81 - KINSELAS KUSTOMS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined once again by Matt Kinsela.
Matt and Tony chat about some of Matt's latest offroad racing adventures, the recent work his team has done on Tony's 80 Series Land Cruiser (including installing a Nissan Patrol front diff!), installing Atlas Transfer Cases in Shauno's Dirty30 and Jocko's HiLux, and Matt's long term Land Rover / 60 Series project.
The boys also chat about Matt's recent venture offering training courses through the workshop - covering Basic Fabrication, Welding and CAD.
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#80 - SUTTO'S POWERSPORTS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Robyn Van Ysseldyk, the owner of Sutto's Powersports in Western Sydney.
Sutto's sell a huge range of epic toys including KTM, Husqvarna and GasGas dirtbikes, SeaDoos, and Can-Ams, and have a solid reputation in the powersports industry.
Robyn shares her story of growing up camping and attending 4WD Jamboree events with her family, her journey through the family retail business and ultimately the purchase of Sutto's Powersports, which she and her brother Mal have run together for the last 9 years.
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#79 - ALL TERRAIN ACCESSORIES - NATHAN LITTLE
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Nathan Little AKA BAD1.79 - the owner of All Terrain Accessories.
Nathan has spent much of the last few years touring Australia in his fully built 79 series dual cab Tourer - driving plenty of tough tracks along the way.
Tony and Nathan chat about Nathan's early entry to the 4WD scene going wheeling with his friends and family, to building the first version of his 79 Series Dream Car, before starting a 4x4 Accessory Business in Perth, and building the latest iteration of...
#78 - JOHNNY MCLEAN
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Johnny Mclean, the owner of Lusty Industries and founder of Albek.
Johnny has been a fixture of the outdoor action sports industry for over 2 decades, taking a childhood love of moto and mountain bikes and turning it into a successful business - supplying Australia with some of the best action sports brands in the world.
Johnny and Tony chat about Johnny's early years racing dirt bikes, his venture into corporate life working as an Electrical Engineer in the mining industry, before following...
#77 - 4XJOURNAL - RENE VERMEER
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Rene Vermeer - the owner and editor of 4XJournal.
4XJournal is a high-quality, quarterly publication focused on telling the stories about the epic 4WDs, their owners, and their adventures, in the New Zealand 4x4 community.
Tony and Rene chat about Rene's early years being obsessed with cars, his journey into working in the street car performance scene, working for Toyota spare parts, becoming an Electrician, falling in love with 4x4s and camping, and ultimately making the decision to start a 4WD...
#76 - COLD START 4x4 & OUTDOORS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is back in New Zealand, and joined by Brad Willets from Cold Start 4x4 & Outdoors.
Originally from Australia, Brad is now a resident of Wanaka, NZ, and is heavily involved in the South Island 4WD community, as well as running his own outdoor brand - Cold Start NZ.
Tony and Brad chat about Brad's early years, travelling around the world in his early 20s, finding his second home in NZ and falling deeply in love with 4x4s, eventually leading him to start his own...
#75 - KAL THE CAR GUY
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Kalen Ziflian, better known as Kal the Car Guy.
Kal has had a lifelong obsession with all things automotive - from street cars to track cars, drag racing, 4WDs and everything in between. This passion led to him being Employee number 1 at Club 4x4 Insurance, where he had a long and successful career. More recently, Kal has focused his efforts on reviewing, and writing about, cars and 4x4s.
Tony and Kal chat about his early years surrounded by family building cool...
#74 - SIMON VELLA
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Simon Vella from Tough Dog suspension.
Simon has been heavily involved in the Australian 4WD scene for over 30 years and has been a huge part of Tough Dog's engineering effort and growth in Australia, and many other countries around the world.
Simon and Tony chat about Simon's early years and his obsession with cars and 4WDs, his early days at Tough Dog, the company's growing success, vehicle modifications and engineering requirements, and heaps more.
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#73 - JIM WALSH
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Jim Walsh from Ultimate Rock Crawling.
Jim has been heavily involved in the Australian Rock Crawling scene for many years, from Tuff Truck Challenge Australia, to WeRock, and more recently the URC.
Jim and Tony chat about Jim's childhood travelling around in an old Toyota troopy with his family (which he still owns today!), his entry to 4WD clubs, how he started competing in various 4x4 offroad racing competitions around Australia and the USA, and his role assisting with the management and...
#72 - BILLY COLLETT
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by the legend, Billy Collett, from Venom Diaries!
Billy has dedicated his life to working with animals and the conservation of Australian wildlife. He's the Park Manager at The Australian Reptile Park on the NSW Central Coast and plays a big part in the production of snake and spider anti-venom in Australia. He's also a keen fisho, loves his diving, spearfishing, and conservation hunting.
Billy and Tony chat about his passion for animals from a young age, his love for working with highly...
#71 - 2025 RECAP
This is the last one for the year!
I decided to put together a 2025 recap to end the year for The Outer Side - talking about some of the epic 4WD trips I've been on with the crew from 4WD 24/7, launching GME into the US Market at Overland Expo, filming 4x4 content in NZ, and the ongoing fight for fair public land access for outdoor recreation enthusiasts.
The show will be back to regular programming in early February - thanks for all your support this year!
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#70 - BEL JONES
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Bel Jones.
Bel is a 4WD fanatic, a hunter, and makes a living capturing outdoor content for brands as a professional photographer and videographer.
Bel and Tony chat about how Bel first became interested in the outdoors travelling Australia with her family as a kid, becoming a professional snowboard instructor in Canada, her move to NZ, and then ultimately following her passion to focus on creating amazing content for 4x4 and outdoors brands, including STEDI and RUNVA, in both Australia and New...
#69 - CHRIS TIERNEY - BRIGHT SPARKS MOTORSPORT
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Chris Tierney from Bright Sparks Motorsport.
Chris has been involved in the offroad 4WD scene for a long time, starting out social wheeling in local 4WD clubs before progressing into offroad enduro, winch truck racing, and rock crawling.
Chris and Tony chat about Chris' experiences starting out in the 4x4 game, the various 4WD clubs he's been involved with, competing in endurance events, the early days of Tuff Truck, and his love for rock crawlers and technical wheeling.
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#68 - SAM PURCELL
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Sam Purcell, the deputy editor of drive.com.au.
Sam has been a motoring journalist for many years, cutting his teeth with Pat Callinan and Unsealed 4x4, testing and reviewing countless 4WD vehicles over his career, and spends his spare time tinkering with old Land Rovers.
Tony and Sam chat about how Sam got started in motoring journalism, the process of testing new vehicles, the future of EV 4x4s and Diesel 4WDs in Australia, and heaps more.
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#67 - ALL OFFROAD AU
In this week's episode, Tony is joined by Stephan Fischer from All Offroad AU.
Stephan has been around the Australian 4WD community for a long time, building a bunch of tough 4x4s, driving hard technical tracks, and running a very popular YouTube channel - @AlloffroadAu
Tony and Stephan talk about how he first got involved in the 4WD community, joining a 4WD club and driving tough tracks around the country, his love for remote touring in the Simpson Desert, and his advocacy and efforts around fair National Park access for recreational users includ...
#66 - FREE ROAM CHICKS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Bec & Astrid AKA the Free Roam Chicks (not Chickens).
Bec & Astrid are travelling around Australia in their V8 Troopy and HJ47 Toyota Land Cruiser, and raising money and awareness for rescue dogs along the way!
Bec & Astrid share how their love for travel and adventure started, what led them to starting this amazing mission to help dogs that need a new home, the challenges of rebuilding and modifying old 4WD Toyotas, their plans to travel the globe in a variety of different 4...
#65 - MAD MATT 4WD
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Matt from MadMatt4WD!
Matt has been around the 4x4 scene for a very long time, has built a bunch of cool cars, done some epic wheeling, and more recently has focused his attention on providing educational content to the 4WD community on YouTube.
Tony and Matt chat about Matt's childhood in Papua New Guinea, his introduction to 4WDs through the club scene, overlanding in Africa, and his journey to becoming a full time 4x4 media personality and educator.
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#64 - SIDETRACKED - NICK WISEMAN
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In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Nick Wiseman from Sidetracked.
Nick and his brother Marko run the 'Sidetracked' YouTube channel, have built a number of sick 4x4s between them, and have travelled all over Australia filming 4WD content.
Tony and Nick chat about how he first became interested in the 4WD scene, his love for Nissan Patrols, his insane custom G60 ground-up build that he is doing by himself in...
#63 - DANIEL KISTLER
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In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Daniel Kistler.
Daniel is a hardcore 4WD fanatic, with an unmatched passion for all things GQ Nissan Patrol, tough wheeling, and winch truck racing.
Daniel shares how his passion for 4x4s started as a kid, his journey from social wheeling with mates to competing in Winch Challenge racing across Victoria, and the satisfaction he gets from learning and sharing that knowledge on his YouTube...
#62 - OVERLAND TRAVELLERS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Matt and Holly Rossato from Overland Travellers.
Matt and Holly have travelled extensively around Australia in their many Toyota 4x4s, completing a number of iconic offroad journeys and filming content for their YouTube channel.
Matt and Holly share their story with Tony including how they first fell in love with 4WD touring, some of their most epic adventures, and the challenges of running their own business while releasing weekly episodes on their YouTube channel.
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#61 - AZVENTURES AUSTRALIA
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Aaron from Azventures Australia.
The boys chat about their experiences camping and 4WD touring, the gear they think is absolutely necessary, the gear that isn't, and different products they've tried over the years.
This is by no means an exhaustive list, but if you're just getting into camping or thinking about setting up a 4WD, you may be able to save some money by learning from our mistakes!
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#60 – RAMPT CUSTOMS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Benji Saunders, the owner of Rampt Customs.
Benji lives and breathes all things rock crawling and custom fabrication. He’s been in the offroad scene for a long time as both a competitor, commentator, and producer of high quality, high performance, offroad 4x4 parts.
Tony and Benji chat about how Benji first got interested in the 4WD scene, his entry into the rock-crawling world, how the fabrication bug bit him, his plans for the future, and heaps more.
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#59 - MOLLY DIXON
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Molly Dixon.
Molly is an adventurer, a YouTube content creator, and someone who lives for the outdoors.
Molly and Tony chat about how Molly first became interested in camping and exploring in 4x4s, the evolution of her vehicles as her quest for adventure and off road experience grew, her brand new 79 Series Land Cruiser touring rig, and heaps more.
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#58 - WANDERING MINDS WALK
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Bailey Seamer from Wandering Minds Walk.
Bailey is an adventurer, mental health advocate, and motivational speaker. In 2022, Bailey walked 5500km along the entire length of the East Coast of Australia in order to raise funds and awareness for the Black Dog Institute, as well as helping to improve her own mental health.
Tony and Bailey chat about her mental health journey, the events leading up to her decision to undertake her epic walk, the good and bad experiences she had along the...
#57 - RONNY DAHL
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Ronny Dahl from 4 Wheeling Australia.
Ronny is a very familiar face in the Australian 4WD community, running an extremely popular educational 4WD YouTube channel for many years, as well as hosting The 4WD Podcast.
Ronny and Tony chat about how Ronny's 4WD journey began, his transition into full time content creation, the challenges and evolution of off road social media, the many different vehicles Ronny has owned and built, and heaps more.
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#56 - HD AUTOMOTIVE
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Hayden Klaassen, the owner of HD Automotive.
From humble beginnings wrecking Toyota Hiluxes in the front yard of his family home, to immersing himself in the dark arts of diesel engine dyno tuning, and supplying high performance diesel parts to 4x4 enthusiasts around the globe, Hayden has built an amazing business and developed a deep understanding of the high quality components required to product big power from diesel motors.
Tony and Hayden chat about his pivot from studying a double degree at...
#55 - COWBOY TUNED
In this episode of The Outer Side, Blair from Cowboy Tuned returns to play a brand new game called Does it Suck?
Tony and Blair provide their unsolicited and completely unqualified opinions on a range of popular 4x4 vehicles, talk smack about things they can't afford, and provide a chilling insight into their poor decision making when it comes to purchasing and owning clapped out 90s 4WDs.
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#54 - SAVING TRUE BLUES
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Lucinda Harvey, the woman behind Saving True Blues.
Saving True Blues is an organisation dedicated to improving the lives of the 4WD and Camping community in Australia through their amazing camping events - designed to create a safe space for people of all ages and backgrounds to share their experiences and talk about issues impacting their mental health.
Tony and Lucinda talk about Lucinda's childhood growing up in the outdoors and modifying 4WDs with her father, the tragic events that led to...
#53 - OFFGRID OUTFITTERS
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Ryan Gudiksen, the owner of Offgrid Outfitters.
Ryan has built a successful business servicing the Southern Sydney off-road caravan market through a passion for remote 4WD travel and ensuring customers buy the right van for their needs.
Tony and Ryan chat about what motivated him to start the business, the desire to promote and sell only the highest quality camping and 4x4 products, choosing the right caravan for your needs, and heaps more.
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#52 - FAVRO PERFORMANCE & FABRICATION
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Mitch Favro, the owner of Favro Performance & Fabrication.
Mitch is a performance mechanic and fabricator and specialises in building custom 4WDs through his business on the NSW Central Coast.
Tony and Mitch talk about how he got started in the automotive trade through PRTech, before moving on to start his own business and focus more heavily on his growing passion - heavily modified 4x4s. The boys also talk about some of Mitch's personal cars including his very capable LN106 Toyota Hilux...
#51 - TIM LIGHTFOOT
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Tim Lightfoot, the man behind MITS Alloy.
MITS Alloy is a metal fabrication business focused on designing, engineering and manufacturing premium 4WD Trays & Canopies for dual cab 4x4 utes.
Tim shares the story of how the business started, the challenges of manufacturing 4x4 accessories in Australia, travelling around Australia and the USA filming 4WD content with 4WD 24/7, and heaps more.
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#50 - COWBOY TUNED
In this episode of The Outer Side, Blair from Cowboy Tuned takes over hosting duties of the show, by popular demand.
Blair asks Tony his own (questionable) questions, as well as asking a whole bunch of questions that you guys wanted Tony to answer.
While there's a fair amount of banter and immature jokes, the boys also cover some serious topics and give you a bit of insight into Tony's background with street cars, 4WDs, camping, fishing, and his career in Marketing.
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#49 - BEN DOBINSON
In this episode of The Outer Side, Tony is joined by Ben Dobinson.
The Dobinson name is familiar to many people in the 4WD community through the Dobinson's Suspension brand, started by Ben's grandfather over 72 years ago!
Tony and Ben chat about the path Dobinson's Suspension has taken as a company, challenges in business, and adapting to different customer needs as global markets change and 4x4 vehicles evolve.
The boys also spend time talking about the build of Ben's insane 650+hp GQ Nissan Patrol, and the Dobinson's King of The...