We Don't Know Hockey

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We Don’t Know Hockey is your go-to podcast for navigating the thrilling world of hockey from a beginner's perspective. Hosted by Tanner Rahlf and Spencer Barry, two enthusiastic Utah sports fans, this podcast delves into the sport and culture of hockey as Utah embraces its new NHL team. Each episode, Tanner and Spencer explore different facets of hockey, from player roles and game rules to team strategies and fan traditions. Whether you’re new to hockey or looking to deepen your understanding, We Don’t Know Hockey is here to guide you through every slap shot, check, and goal on ice

WDKH 62: A Stick Inspection that Cursed a Team for Twenty Years!
#62
09/02/2025

Episode Description:
 The preseason is creeping closer. While Utah hasn’t officially dropped its rookie showcase schedule, we got a peek from Colorado that the young guns will be skating in the Mile High City. What can we expect from the Mammoth prospects?

Slappy Thoughts

Spencer digs into a legendary stick inspection that may have cursed the LA Kings.Tanner listens to some surprisingly good (and sometimes questionable) music projects from NHL players.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might...


WDKH 61: My Goalie is Back and You're Gonna Be in Trouble
#61
08/25/2025

Connor Ingram is back. After time away in the player assistance program, he’s been cleared to return and will be at training camp with Utah. But with three NHL-caliber goalies on the roster, when most teams only carry two, what does that mean for the Mammoth’s crease going forward?

Team USA has released its Olympic orientation roster. While it’s not the final list, it’s a strong preview of who will suit up in Italy. Could Logan Cooley and Clayton Keller be representing the States next year?

Meanwhile, SEG announced the first phase of...


WDKH 60: Sergachev on the List of Top 20 Defenseman
#60
08/18/2025

We were told Caleb Desnoyers wouldn’t need surgery… turns out we were told wrong. The Mammoth’s latest first-rounder is sidelined for 12 weeks after wrist surgery. Plus, the NHL dropped its list of the top 20 defensemen, and a familiar Mammoth makes the cut. Meanwhile, the kids are alright: Team USA’s U18 squad brings home just their second-ever gold at the Hlinka Gretzky Cup. 🏆🇺🇸

This week, Tanner and Spencer play the “What If?” game—imagining what every Mammoth player would be doing if hockey wasn’t in the cards. High school teacher? Reality dating show heartthrob? You’ll want to hear this...


WDKH 59: King Cold!
#59
08/12/2025

Archie’s birthday was a blast, and Spencer breaks down his visit with Utah’s most beloved dog. Just when you thought the name was official, another lawsuit has popped up over the Mammoth’s name. Could a rebrand be on the horizon?

Last week we ranked the best nicknames on the Mammoth. This week we create nicknames for the rest of the roster, pulling inspiration from their play, their hometowns, and of course, Dragon Ball Z.

Slappy Thoughts
Spencer shares the bizarre story of a player who scored a goal in a game he did...


WDKH 58: A Very Good Boy Birthday
#58
08/04/2025

Team Canada has kicked off Olympic orientation and we’re keeping an eye out for Mammoth names on the roster. Who’s got a shot at representing the red and white?

Back in Utah, it’s party time for the goodest boy. Archie, the Mammoth’s service dog in training, just turned one and celebrated with the kind of birthday bash every pup deserves.

Veggie’s got a new look between the pipes. His updated pads bring the Mammoth branding strong. Are they the cleanest in the league?

This week, Tanner and Spencer rank every...


WDKH 57: The Silliest Team Names in Hockey
07/28/2025

Don’t let the quiet week fool you—there’s plenty to talk about.

Tanner and Spencer hit a Premier Lacrosse League game, and their newfound hockey obsession made for a wild crossover. What does lacrosse get right? And what could it learn from the NHL?

Then, we dive into NHL Opening Day. Some matchups are eyebrow-raising, but does that mean they’re good? Plus, Utah continues to lead the league in player treatment, and some big names are starting to take notice. Could this help land a star down the road?

Oh—and the lo...


WDKH 56: With Icethetics Chris Smith
#56
07/21/2025

Utah is making moves! Jack McBain and Michael Carcone are back, but what does that mean for the young guns trying to break into the lineup? We break down the signings and what they signal for the season ahead.

Speaking of the season, the schedule is out! We highlight the matchups you won’t want to miss and what they could mean for Utah’s early momentum.

Then, we’re joined by Chris Smith from Icethetics. We talk jerseys, logos, why NHL designs hits different, and where Utah lands in the visual power rankings.

Go...


WDKH 55: Evan Brown Returns for Free Agency and Post Draft Opinons!
#55
07/09/2025

Evan Brown is back! The Weber State alum returns to break down the 2025 NHL Draft, the biggest free agency moves, and what it all means for Utah and the rest of the league.

Then it’s time to get bold. Evan, Tanner, and Spencer throw out some way-too-early predictions for next season. Who’s gonna pop off? Who’s gonna fall off? And what does Utah need to do to make a playoff run in Year 2?

Let the speculation begin.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to...


WDKH 54: Deh-NOY-yay
06/30/2025

Forgive the pun, but it truly was a Mammoth week for Utah! Utah sends Kesselring and Doan to Buffalo in exchange for rising star JJ Peterka. How will he boost Utah’s talent pool, and are we already cooking up a nickname for his potential line?

The NHL Draft also brought major buzz. Utah kept their fourth pick and selected Caleb Desnoyers, a center with massive potential. He might not hit the roster right away, but trust us—this jersey is gonna sell out when he does.

Also this week:
The NHL and NHLPA reac...


WDKH 53: Marchand to Utah?
#53
06/23/2025

The Florida Panthers are Stanley Cup champions! Is Florida officially the new hockey hotspot, or did Edmonton just let this one slip away? Tanner and Spencer break down what went right for the Panthers, what went wrong for the Oilers, and what this means for the NHL’s power balance.

The season’s over, but the Mammoth rumor mill is just heating up. With a thin free agency class, could Utah make a bold move to snag top talent? And will they use their draft pick or trade it away for a win-now piece?

Slappy Thou...


WDKH 52: Draft Deception, Olympic Dreams, and the Worst #1 Pick Ever
#52
06/17/2025

Florida’s flexing. After a dominant Game 5, they’re one win away from lifting the Cup. But don’t count Edmonton out just yet. Can they rally and force a Game 7?

Olympic rosters are starting to take shape, with the first six names for each country locked in. No Mammoth players yet... but could that change before February?

With the draft right around the corner, smoke is everywhere. Is Bill Armstrong bluffing the league, or is he truly passing on a top-ranked talent? We break down the rumors and what it could mean for Utah’s rebuil...


WDKH 51: What's Bumblin' in the Beehive State?
06/11/2025

The NHL Combine is in the books, and rumors are buzzing louder than a swarm in the Beehive State. Could another big name be heading to Utah? Bill Armstrong says he wants a top-six forward, but will he make a move to land one?

Meanwhile, the Stanley Cup Final is getting chippy. Florida’s up 2-1, and Edmonton’s looking for answers. What’s holding the Oilers back, and can they still flip the script?

Slappy Thoughts this week:

Tanner goes deep on the glowing puck and how it changed hockey broadcasts and left a glow...


WDKH 50: The Russians Are Coming!
#50
06/04/2025

The Russians are coming! Daniil But and Dmitri Simashev are officially signed, sealed, and heading to Utah. Tanner and Spencer break down what this means for the Mammoth’s blue line and scoring depth. Will they crack the roster out of camp? And how does Desimone’s extension shake up the plans? Bill Armstrong had thoughts, and we’ve got the receipts.

Oh, and in case you forgot... the Stanley Cup Final starts tonight.
 Florida’s hunting for a repeat. Edmonton’s chasing a legacy. Will it be sunshine and champagne or Oil country glory? The boys give t...


WDKH 49: We're Seeing Gold!
#49
05/28/2025

Boo-Yah! Team USA strikes GOLD for the first time in 92 years at the World Championship, and Captain Clayton Keller leads the charge. Tanner and Spencer break down the young American core, the Mammoth players who showed up on the global stage, and what this means heading into next season. The stars are shining, and they’re wearing red, white, and blue.

Meanwhile, back on NHL ice, it’s Conference Finals crunch time. Both series are sitting at 3-1, and let’s just say… the odds aren’t looking great for comebacks, but hey, we’ve seen miracles before. Will...


WDKH 48: The Mammoth are Making a World of Difference
#48
05/21/2025

Another year, another disappointment in Toronto. The Core Four collapse in Game 7, and Tanner and Spencer ask the question, "Was anyone really surprised?" With big-name free agents possibly on the move, could the Mammoth be in the mix to bring star power to Utah?

The NHL playoffs roll into the Conference Finals, with the Stars vs. Oilers and the Panthers vs. Hurricanes. Is a rematch of last year in the cards? The boys make their predictions and break down who’s got the edge.

Meanwhile, Team USA is rolling at Worlds, and Utah’s presence is b...


WDKH: A Mammoth Name Reveal!
#47
05/12/2025

The wait is over! Utah’s NHL team is officially the Mammoth, and we’ve got thoughts. Tanner and Spencer break down the new name, logos, jerseys, and everything in between. What’s working? What’s weird? What coulda been?

And Utah wasn’t done making noise, they landed the 4th overall pick in the NHL Draft Lottery! We talk about what that means, who might be on the board, and how this pick could shape the Mammoth's first few seasons.

Meanwhile, the Second Round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs is living up to the hype. Tigh...


WDKH 46: Oh Captain My Captain! (Again!)
#46
05/05/2025

Round 1 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs is in the books, and the chaos did not disappoint. Two Western Conference matchups went the full seven games, and we're breaking down the wild finishes, standout performances, and who we think is making it out of the next round alive.

Utah may be in offseason mode, but that doesn’t mean we’re done repping on the world stage. Seven Utah Hockey Club players are headed to the IIHF World Championship, and Clayton Keller has officially been named Captain America for Team USA 🇺🇸. What does this mean for Utah's identity and future...


WDKH 45: We will be SHOCKED if there's no new name by the draft
#45
04/28/2025

Utah’s season may be in the books, but the work is just getting started! Tanner and Spencer break down the big takeaways from Bill Armstrong and Coach Bear’s exit interviews, including hints at big plans to toughen up the roster, elevate the team culture, and bring in new blood (👀 looking at you, Daniil But and Dmitry Simachev).

Meanwhile, Utah will still be reppin' on the international stage! We knew Clayton Keller was suiting up for Team USA at Worlds, but now Kesselring and Kerfoot are joining him to fly the red, white, and blue.

And...


WDKH 44: Evan Brown Returns!
04/21/2025

Weber State Hockey alum Evan Brown returns to the pod! He’s breaking down the NHL playoff picture, sharing his personal picks, and giving us his thoughts on Utah Hockey Club’s inaugural season; what worked, what didn’t, and what needs to change.

Then, it’s role reversal time as Evan flips the script and quizzes Tanner and Spencer after a year of learning the game. Are they ready for the big leagues, or headed back to develop a little more?

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to we...


WDKH: Playing for Pride
04/14/2025

The playoff dream might be done, but Utah’s not letting up. Tanner and Spencer recap a strong 2-0-1 week from the Utah Hockey Club, including their final home game of the season, where the Delta Center showed major love to the fans with a full-on appreciation event. With two games left, Utah's proving they’re still playing with purpose. Plus, we check in on the teams still grinding for a postseason spot.

Slappy Thoughts:

Tanner’s Tale: The 1992–93 Pittsburgh Penguins strung together 17 straight wins; a record that still stands. Tanner walks us through the comeback...


WDKH 42: 895 for the Great 8
#42
04/07/2025

🚨 It's a monumental moment in NHL history as Alexander Ovechkin, otherwise known as The Great 8, surpasses The Great One Wayne Gretzky's all-time goal record; an achievement made even more poetic by falling on the anniversary of the Capitals winning the draft lottery that brought Ovi to D.C. We're unpacking why this record is particularly special and might stand the test of time, right at the start of our episode.

🥅 Then, we break into the realm of the unbreakable, exploring other legendary NHL records that seem set in stone. The good records, the bad, and the absolute bonker...


WDKH 41: Will Utah Bounce Back... Or Break Down?
#41
03/31/2025

This week on the ice, Tanner and Spencer are breakin' down a roller coaster ride with the Utah Hockey Club. It’s a tough week with some hard losses that'll make you wanna hide your eyes, but hold up, there's a silver lining as Utah pulls off a clutch win against Chicago on Sunday afternoon. But that's not all, folks! Are the roster changes a buzzer-beater move for the playoffs, or just a savvy play to groom the young guns?

Slappy Thoughts:

Tanner's as Mad as a Hatter: Tanner's hitting the books, learning about the hat tr...


WDKH 40: Is it RIP to the Outlaws?
#40
03/24/2025

This week, Tanner and Spencer are your playmakers breaking down Utah's roller-coaster week, talking big wins, tough losses, and those nail-biting comebacks. Hang tight as they also scoot through the hottest slices of NHL and Utah ice news. We're talking a future Stadium Series game in Utah, where's the puck gonna drop? Plus, a new name in the game, "The Mammoth," is it out for our Outlaw hopes"? And yo, check this: Ryan Smith is gearing up to carve out a junior hockey program right here in Utah.

Episode Highlights:

Utah's Game Wrap-Up:<...


WDKH 39: Does the Shootout Ruin Hockey?
#39
03/17/2025

What's up, hockey heads! Strap yourselves in because Tanner and Spencer are here to bring you the lowdown with style. We're talking Utah grinding it out on the ice, eyeing that elusive wildcard spot. Are they cool under pressure? You bet they are!

Slappy Thoughts:

Tanner's Discovery: Boom shaka laka! Tanner’s schooling us on the Michigan goal – it's not just slick, it’s ice-cold artistry. How did this high-flying move change the game? Tanner’s got the scoop.Spencer's Insight: And on the flip side, Spencer’s breaking down the nitty...


WDKH 38: Veggie is Earning His Cabbage!
#38
03/10/2025

It's been an exciting week of hockey. We've got the game recaps of Utah vs Detroit and their showdown in Chicago. We're tracking the Wildcard race closely as the playoffs approach, discussing who’s in and who’s out. Plus, we cover the latest extensions for Utah's Veggie, Maata, Cole, and Kerfoot, and what it means for Utah's future. With the trade deadline around the corner, we also break down the biggest moves and predict how they'll shake up the league.

Slappy Thoughts Segment:

Tanner’s Discovery: Explore the significance of the Minnes...


WDKH: Durzi and What's Under the Jersey?
#37
03/03/2025

In this episode, we dive into the Utah Hockey Club's recent games and what they need to clinch a playoff spot. We also tackle the trade deadline and its potential impact on Utah. For Slappy Thoughts, Tanner explores the evolution of protective gear in hockey, while Spencer gets into the details about Utah's defenseman, Sean Durzi.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle it in our next episode.

Keep the puck rolling—follow us on your favorite soci...


Episode 36: The Four Nations Face-Off Was a HUGE Success!
#36
02/24/2025

The Four Nations Face-Off was a massive hit. Could this be the fix for the NHL All-Star problem? Meanwhile, Utah Hockey Club is back in action, and we might finally witness their full-strength roster for the first time.

For Slappy Thoughts, Tanner dives into the legendary USA-Canada hockey rivalry, and Spencer crunches the numbers on Hollywood’s hockey stars. Can you guess which Oscar-nominated goalie rocked an .850 save percentage at a D3 university? 🤔🥅🎬

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle it in...


WDKH 35: We Have the Facts and We're Voting Outlaws!
#35
02/03/2025

Tanner and Spencer share their live post-game reactions after attending the Utah vs. St. Louis game. They've cast their votes for "Outlaws" as Utah's new name—and they've got plenty of reasons why you should too! Unfortunately, Utah's injury bug keeps holding back their potential greatness.

For Slappy Thoughts, Tanner dives into the legendary career of future Hall of Famer Marc-André Fleury, while Spencer tells the inspiring story of Willie O'Ree, the NHL's first Black player.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we ju...


Episode 34: RIP The Yeti, Who Will Utah Be Now?
#34
01/28/2025

Are the Yeti in danger of extinction before they even begin? Tanner and Spencer dive into the trademark drama surrounding potential names for Utah’s hockey team, including The Yeti, The Utah Hockey Club, The Blizzard, and The Venom. What could the future hold for Utah’s official name? Is this the end of the Yeti dream?

For Slappy Thoughts, Spencer breaks down the mechanics of trades in the NHL, while Tanner takes a deep dive into other teams that have faced trademark troubles throughout hockey history.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all...


WDKH 33: John Marino's Spectacular Play
01/20/2025

Has Utah finally broken its home ice curse? Spencer and Tanner recap last week’s games, dive into Utah’s challenging upcoming road trip, and celebrate an NHL-first goalie recording both an assist and a goal in the same game! For Slappy Thoughts, Spencer dives into Utah defenseman John Marino’s impact on the team, while Tanner explores the fascinating history of former NHL franchises.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle it in our next episode.

Keep the puck...


WDKH 32: Spencer Returns to the Delta Center
#32
01/13/2025

This week, we recap the past week of Utah Hockey Club games and the team’s performance on the ice. Spencer shares his experience returning to the Delta Center, where he noticed some massive improvements in the game-day atmosphere.

For Slappy Thoughts, Spencer explores the critical role of the player behind the net during a power play, while Tanner explores the techniques players use to block shots without going to the injury list.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tack...


WDKH 31: Leggo my Leggio Rule!
#31
01/06/2025

Utah's Hockey Club is hitting a rough patch—can they recover before the season slips away? We break down the good, the bad, and everything in between happening on and off the ice.

For Slappy Thoughts, Spencer dives into the strategies that make or break a Power Play, while Tanner uncovers the wild story behind the Leggio Rule and how one goalie forced the NHL to change the game.

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle it in our next...


WDKH 30: This One Stat Ensures a Utah Victory!
#30
12/30/2024

Tanner's prophetic vision has finally run its course as Utah's point streak comes to an end. With a challenging home stretch ahead, can the team bounce back despite holding the league’s worst home record? The guys uncover a surprising secret that seems to guarantee a Utah victory!

For Slappy Thoughts, Spencer breaks down the current leaders across the NHL’s major stat categories, while Tanner dives deep into hockey legend Mario Lemieux's remarkable career, highlighting his triumphs, struggles, and enduring legacy.

Tune in for all the updates, insights, and a bit of hockey magic!


WDKH 29: Changing the Landscape of Hockey
#29
12/23/2024

Utah’s point streak keeps rolling, but could there be challenges on the horizon? Tanner and Spencer break down the team's impressive run and analyze potential roadblocks ahead. For Slappy Thoughts, we dive into the story of an inventor who revolutionized the ice rink and relive some of the most unforgettable Game Sevens in hockey history. Don’t miss this mix of deep analysis and hockey nostalgia!

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle it in our next episode.

Keep...


WDKH 28: The Kids are Alright!
#28
12/16/2024

Utah’s on a roll! Tanner and Spencer break down the Hockey Club’s point streak and dive into the wealth of goalies keeping the team steady. They also crown Utah’s high-flying second line with a brand-new nickname. Then, it’s game time – the guys share their thoughts on playing NHL '94 and NHL '25 for the first time. Nostalgia, next-gen graphics, and plenty of laughs make this one you won’t want to miss!

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just might tackle i...


WDKH 27: Fair Fortunes, Our Finnish Friends!
#27
12/09/2024

In this episode of We Don’t Know Hockey, Tanner and Spencer dive into the latest updates from the Utah Hockey Club, including the Finnish players heading to the Four Nations Face-Off, recent and upcoming games, and the unfortunate news of Tij’s season-ending surgery.

For Slappy Thoughts, Tanner gets into the nitty gritty of hockey stats, decoding what they mean and how they shape the game. Meanwhile, Spencer shares the wild tale of Buffalo’s infamous draft pick, Taro Tsujimoto, a player who doesn’t exist.

Don't miss it!

Have a burning...


WDKH 26: Hot Action in Vegas
#26
12/02/2024

Spencer throws a quick hitter talking about the big win in Vegas, where the Utah Hockey Club registered their first shutout in franchise history and Nick Schmaltz finally got on the board with his first two goals of the season. Spencer also takes a look at the team's post-Thanksgiving playoff chances. Tanner and Spencer will be back next week with another full episode to talk about the latest action with the team and learn more about the sport of hockey. We'll see you next week!

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ea...


WDKH 25: Goal Tunes!
11/25/2024

This week on We Don’t Know Hockey, Tanner and Spencer dive into the latest Utah Hockey Club games and give their takes on the highs and lows of the action. Spencer brings his hot takes with some stadium reviews, breaking down the vibes, food, and fan energy at recent venues. The duo gets creative as they brainstorm better goal songs, dreaming up the perfect tunes to ignite the crowd after a big score.

For Slappy Thoughts, Tanner explains the delay of game penalty and why it can drive players and fans alike crazy. Meanwhile, Spencer takes a...


WDKH 24: Marry Me, Archie!
#24
11/18/2024

Tanner and Spencer are back to break down the latest action from the Utah Hockey Club's road trip, highlight the much-anticipated sweater release (with the next drop slated for early 2025), and share their thoughts on the new locker rooms. They also dive into what might just be the greatest player acquisition in hockey history!

For Slappy Thoughts, the duo explores the legend of Alex Ovechkin and the NCAA's newest hockey rule changes. 

LINKS:

Ovechkin Documentary: https://youtu.be/puXuTQTr5fk?si=ejMp5nyVoZ_R9-_1Locker Room Tour: https://www.youtube.com/w...


WDKH 23: Fight! Fight! Goalie Fights!
#23
11/12/2024

In this episode, Tanner and Spencer break down the highs and lows of Utah's recent road trip, with all the game highlights and key moments. They also share exciting updates on the sweater release and what fans can expect.

For Slappy Thoughts, they dive into the tradition of outdoor hockey games and the rare but thrilling world of goalie fights. Don’t miss this action-packed episode full of hockey insights and Utah updates!

Have a burning hockey question? We’re all ears! Send it over to wedontknowhockey@gmail.com, and we just...