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What the UFO? We're processing the emerging scientific revolution around this fascinating subject. We talk about what the UFO/UAP phenomenon might be, explore historical sightings, track new developments, and generally feel our way through this wild, exciting territory. If you're a researcher, experiencer or ufologist and you'd like to share your story or get the word out about your work, please find us on X @WTUFOshow. If you're enjoying our show and you'd like to help us keep making it, please support us at patreon.com/WTUFO
Tim Burke ~ Writer, Director, Producer
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Daniel Otis ~ Investigative Journalist
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Daniel Otis is an investigative journalist who covers UAP for Canadian and international news organizations. He works primarily with direct reports and documents, often retrieved by legal information requests.
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Jordan Flowers ~ Disclosure Foundation Executive Director
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Jordan leads the nonprofit Disclosure Foundation, a nonprofit supporting policy, legal and education actions to advance official disclosure and coordinate societal response thereto. He comes to this role after a 20-year career in corporate finance—he's a sharp tack and a good guy. We're honored to host him and learn about his work. Hope you enjoy!
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5 Resoultions For UFOlogy
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Cultivate ConverationsFund and Organize ScienceHold Government AccountableEducate and Encourage the MediaPublicly Contact Nonhuman IntelligencesHappy New Year, everyone! Wishing you a fun, successful 2026.
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What's Going On With UFOs ~ Best Guess
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A fun one for the end of 2025—this is my honest best guess about what's going on with UFOs. All the details from their origin to the time they've been here to their overarching agenda. Just pure, unfiltered, wild-eyed speculation. Hope you enjoy!
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3 Likely Disclosure Scenarios
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What's actually going to happen? I've thought hard about it and this is what I think is likely.
1. A Presidential Address
2. An NHI Reveal
3. A Gradual Realization
In this fun, punchy episode, I tease out these possibilities and drive toward what I think we should be doing to prepare for and encourage them.
Happy holidays everyone. I wish you and your loved ones all a peaceful, healthy season.
UFO Media Criticism
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The main engines of American news media do a terrible job covering UFOs. What should they resolve to improve?
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How Should We Think About Disclosure?
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I'd like to start a conversation here and invite you to participate. Please meet us on our YouTube Community page to engage in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO/community
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What Should We Do About UFOs?
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I've been making WTUFO since the summer of 2024, so I take an episode here to share what I think is happening with UFOs, what my show is for, and what we should all do about this wild situation.
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Brenda Denzler ~ Jinn, UFOs and Religious Trickster Creatures
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Brenda is a mostly retired writer, editor, and sometime speaker currently living in rural North Carolina. She received her Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University in 1998 and is the author of The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs, (University of California Press, 2001), a couple of invited chapters in scholarly books on religion and the UFO sub-culture, and a few articles on UFOs and religion. Her current interest is in mining humanity’s folkloric and religious traditions to better understand the provenance and nature of “the gods...
Dr. Jim Madden ~ Thinking Carefully About UAP
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Dr. James Madden teaches philosophy at Benedictine College. He's written three books, including "Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World."
We discuss how to think carefully about UAP, the probabilities of their origins, the tension between caution and productive investigation, what it would take to prove UAP are nonhuman, and the possibilities of contact.
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Karin Austin ~ Director of the Center for the Impossible at Rice University, Executive Director of the John Mack Institute
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Karin Austin leads both the Center for the Impossible at Rice University and the John Mack Institute.
In the 1990's, Karin worked with the late Harvard psychiatrist, John E. Mack, M.D., contributing her own experiences to his research into the abduction phenomenon, and eventually transitioning into the role of his personal assistant.
After Dr. Mack's death in 2004, Karin was pivotal in helping Dr. Mack's family close his estate, an effort that eventually led to collaborating with Wilson Research Center's Head of Special Collections, Amanda Focke, and Rice University's Dr. J...
Dr. Stephen Bruehl ~ Coauthor of Transient Papers
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Dr. Stephen Bruehl cowrote two blockbuster papers on transient points of light in 1950s astronomy pictures. He explains to us why these findings are unlikely to be anything other than reflective physical objects in geosynchronous orbit.
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Jim Quirk ~ Encounter Experiencer, UFO Witness, Podcast Host
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Seth Borkowski ~ Host of The Spiritual Skeptic
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Seth has a masters in psychology and works in fintech. He also podcasts about aliens with a cheerfully comedic bent. You can fond his show The Spiritual Skeptic here: https://thespiritualskeptic.buzzsprout.com/
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Dr. Brett Robinson ~ Notre Dame Media Studies Professor
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Nicola Mitchell ~ Independent Journalist
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Sarah Gamm ~ USACE Scientist, Former Intelligence Analyst with NRO, NGA, ODNI, Lockheed, Boeing, SAIC
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Liam Breck ~ Software Entrepreneur, Philosopher
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Congressional UFO Hearing Walk-Through, September 9, 2025
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John Ramirez ~ Retired CIA Officer, Experiencer
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Leslie and Stephen Shaw ~ Journalist and Experiencer, Authors
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Michael Michaud ~ Diplomat, Author, SETI Protocol Creator
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Dr. Jeffrey Kripal ~ Professor, Author, Archives of the Impossible Founder
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John Priestland ~ uNHidden Founder and Chairman
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Dr. William Parsons ~ Professor of Religion, Archives of the Impossible Contributor
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Kharisma Montes de Oca ~ City Planner, Law Student, Legal Researcher
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Victor Viggiani ~ Researcher, Journalist, Podcast Host, Founder of Zland Communications
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Dr. Tania Searle ~ Professor of Sociology and Health Science
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Matt Laslo ~ Journalist, Professor, Public Speaker, Founder of AskaPol Politics
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Dr. Massimo Teodorani ~ Astrophysicist, Author, Musician
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David Gladstone ~ Author, Experiencer
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David is a lifelong experiencer with some wild personal encounters. We take an uncritical trip through his stories and get his views on the cosmic situation.
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Chad Wanless ~ UAP Video Analysis
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This episode is primarily visual, so you may enjoy watching on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Dm7qAi2aLb8
Chad and Caleb walk through a video analysis for the first fifteen minutes, then Chad expands his presentation on potential evidence of warp propulsion in UAP videos for the rest of the show.
Is this video real? We obviously don't know. It does seem too good to be true, but it has a few details that make it seem potentially real. Neither of us is an expert in special effects, so we'd lo...
Lacey Jay Forbes ~ Experiencer, Author, Vlogger, Spiritual Researcher
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Lacey is an author, vlogger and spiritual researcher. We discuss her investigations into spiritual realities, her UFO sighting, and her experience of encountering an unidentified being.
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Deborah Ward ~ Research Librarian
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Deborah holds two master's degrees and built a career directing the administration of health science libraries and other specialized collections. She comes to the UAP topic as a curious learner with a passion for organizing information.
In this episode, Deborah and Caleb lay out their rundown of introductory resources for people learning about UAP, from books to podcasts to supporting documents of various kinds.
They've started gathering some of these documents in the UAP Resources page of wtufo.com here: https://wtufo.com/category/uap-resources/
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Dr. Jörg Matthias Determann ~ Author of Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life
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Dr. Determann is the author of Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life: The Culture of Astrobiology in the Muslim World and a professor of history at Virginia Commonwealth University in Qatar. He joins WTUFO to explore intersections between the UAP phenomenon and Islamic thought.
Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life: The Culture of Astrobiology in the Muslim World: https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Science-Fiction-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0755650360
Islamic Theology and Extraterrestrial Life: New Frontiers in Science and Religion: https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Science-Fiction-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0755601270
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Michael Kelly - Experiencer Researcher
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Michael Kelly uses the skills from his philosophy degree and graduate-level teaching assistant work to research reports of encounters with nonhuman beings. He is a research fellow at the Archives of the Impossible, though he appears here entirely in a personal capacity.
We discuss the striking data that emerges from experiencer reports, from the kinds of beings people report meeting to the types of encounters they describe. Michael shares data graphics in the YouTube version of this episode, which you can find here https://youtu.be/WXpbtZJBTVQ
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Dr. Janis Whitlock ~ Developmental Psychologist, Research Scientist Emerita, Visible College Leadership, John Mack Institute Adviser
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Dr. Janis Whitlock is a developmental psychologist and research scientist emerita from Cornell University, renowned for her work in adolescent mental health and self-injury recovery. In recent years, she has expanded her scholarly pursuits into the realm of UAP studies. As a member of the leadership team of The Visible College, a volunteer collective of scholars dedicated to serious UAP research, Dr. Whitlock explores the intersections of human consciousness, trauma, and anomalous phenomena. Her interdisciplinary approach integrates scientific inquiry with spiritual and psychological perspectives, aiming to deepen our understanding of human potential and the b...
Chad Wanless and Dave Palachik ~ UAP Researchers, Authors and Field Study Engineers
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Chad Wanless is an Engineering Technologist with over 30 years of experience in mechanical design, specializing in optics and lighting technologies. Professor Dave Palachik is a Senior Electrical & Electronic Engineering Technologist, National Director Emeritus of MUFON Canada, and an expert in infrared and electronic security systems.
We discuss their book "Hidden in Plain Sight: Evidence of Exotic UFO Propulsion," which proposes that UAP create visible gravitational lensing around themselves. This theory provides a promising avenue for future research, and implies that these craft may use some form of spacetime warping drive.
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Ralph Blumenthal ~ Investigative Journalist, Author, Professor
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Ralph is a distinguished professor, journalist and author with a long and varied career. He's contributed especially significantly to the UFO conversation in recent years with his bombshell reporting and his deep, detailed biography of John Mack, the Harvard psychiatrist who investigated abduction experiences.
We discuss the experiencer phenomenon, the stubborn mysteries at the heart of UAP research, and how other journalists and news editors can better approach this subject with intellectual rigor.
Ralph's Faculty Page: https://www.baruch.cuny.edu/profiles/faculty/Ralph-Blumenthal
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