Curious Explorers

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By: Kathy Kelly and Traci Stein

What’s haunting the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park ?Are orbs ghostly phenomena or mere camera artifacts?Can what we do in the future influence the past?How are precognition and retrocausation connected?Do the same psychological principles apply to both the living and the dead?Did Abraham Lincoln foresee his own death?Join historian Kathy Kelly, proprietress of The Paranormal Museum, and psychologist Traci Stein as they explore the evidence for - and against - a paranormal explanation for all things mysterious, historical and most of all - paranormal. [Theme song, "The Paranormal is Real" by Leonell Cassio, used wit...

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Remote Viewing's Next Era: Luciano Arruda on Consciousness, Precognition, AI & Stargate
#30
Last Monday at 10:00 PM

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Where is remote viewing headed next?

Traci talks with Luciano Arruda, President of the International Remote Viewing Association (IRVA), about the evolution of remote viewing—from its Stargate-era roots to today’s growing civilian community. Luciano also previews some of the speakers and topics to be featured at the upcoming October 2026 conference in Dayton, Ohio (link below).

Topics covered:

- Remote viewing + consciousness), ESP/parapsychology, and precognition  

- Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) and other...


The Sign from Aokigahara, Japan’s “Sea of Trees”
#29
09/02/2026

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Historian Kathy Kelly shares the story of a hauntingly ordinary artifact: a camera-warning sign from Aokigahara, Japan’s “Sea of Trees” (often called the “Suicide Forest”). After a U.S. Marine stationed in Japan encountered the forest’s tragic reality, he carried the sign home and kept it for years—unable to throw it away, until he finally entrusted it to the Paranormal Museum.

Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of suicide. In recognition of National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month (September), we’re also including support resources below.


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The (Mini) Bigfoot Episode with Remote Viewer Lori Williams
#28
08/17/2026

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Is there any way to convince Traci that Bigfoot is real? In this minisode, master remote viewer Lori Williams reveals what it was like to view Bigfoot as a blind target for the Coast to Coast AM radio show. Lori shares all the details about this esoteric target – from tapping into the smells (!), sightings, habits, and transdimensional nature of this cryptid. Lori also talks about what it was like to connect with the consciousness of Bigfoot, and shares what they think of humans, as well as the un...


Spirit Messages, Akashic Records & Sacred Sites with Lauren Rainbow
#27
07/20/2026

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Psychic medium and sacred-site guide Lauren Rainbow joins Traci for a wide-ranging conversation on spirit communication, Akashic Records, and why certain places on Earth feel *alive* with energy. Lauren shares her surprising path from news reporter to public medium, what it was like living in a retired funeral home, how 9/11 accelerated her spiritual awakening, and how to ground and protect your energy when working with heavy frequencies. Plus: ethics in mediumship, unforgettable stories, and upcoming sacred journeys to Mexico...


Haunted Real Estate: “Buyer Beware – Ghosts Included”
#26
06/25/2026

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This week, Traci Stein invites her husband Jason “Doe” —a real estate pro with 30+ years of experience—on for his first-ever interview… and let’s just say he’s seen things that *don’t* show up on a home inspection.

Together, they unpack the strange intersection of paranormal activity + home buying: the childhood moment that still gives Jason chills, the long-running “activity” in Traci’s family home, and the Jersey Shore purchase that came with a little extra… personality.

You’ll also hear what they did to reset the energy (from rituals to re...


Jersey Devil & Baal: Why “Devils” Have Horns, Hooves & Tails (Season 3 Premiere)
#25
05/12/2026

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Traci + Kathy kick off Season 3 of Curious Explorers live from The Showroom in Asbury Park, NJ during the Jersey Devil Fable Festival—and investigate a  paranormal pattern:

Why do so many “evil” beings come with horns, tails, and cloven feet?

They trace the look back through myth and religion — from Pan (a god, later villainized), Azazel (a fallen angel), and Baal (a god later recast as a demonic king—and suddenly trending). Then they turn to the Jersey Devil, the Pine Barrens’ mo...


Military Remote Viewing Revealed - with Sgt. Lyn Buchanan (encore)
#24
04/14/2026

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What did the US military learn from 2 decades of psychic spying?

Ret. Sgt. Lyn Buchanan - one of the original Star Gate remote viewers - shares what he knows (or at least what he can share...) in this episode of the Curious Explorers Podcast. (It's still our most listened-to episodes to date!).

For more on Lyn Buchanan and Controlled Remote Viewing, visit: https://www.crviewer.com/

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Father Malachi Martin -- Savior or Sinner? (Part 2 of the Marty Stalker Interview)
#23
03/15/2026

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Was Father Malachi Martin a savior or sinner? Spiritual counselor or Casanova? And what supernatural force has been trying to stop Director Marty Stalker from telling Father Martin's story?

In this encore of Part II of the interview with Marty Stalker,  director of the Netflix documentary, "Hostage to the Devil," Marty does a deeper dive into controversial exorcist, Father Malachi Martin.

Marty delves further into the world of demonic possession and the paranormal phenomena that he continues to encounter when speaking on these topics. In fact, you’ll hear som...


Hostage to the Devil: Director Marty Stalker on Fr. Malachi Martin, Exorcism & the Quest for the Truth (Encore)
#22
02/28/2026

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Who was controversial exorcist and Vatican insider Father Malachi Martin? Is demonic possession real? What supernatural force may be working against the truth coming out?

In this special encore episode of Curious Explorers, we’re joined by Marty Stalker, the director of the Netflix documentary 'Hostage to the Devil,' which explores the life and exorcisms of Father Martin. 

Marty reveals what he learned during his 6-year journey making the film, and also  describes the supernatural “resistance” Marty encountered while making the movie and since then. The interview also delves d...


Haunted Dolls: Love at First Fright
#21
01/26/2026

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Ever wonder why that vintage doll at the estate sale is giving you major bad vibes? Traci and Kathy crack open the creepy toy box on haunted dolls, from eBay's booming market to the A-listers of possessed porcelain (looking at you, Robert and Annabelle). Kathy spills the tea about her 100+ haunted doll collection – including the one that sent her running from the Paranormal Museum in the dead of night. 

Meanwhile, Traci reminisces about a Dead Files gem: one woman, 2,000 haunted dolls, and a daughter who's really into death.

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Ghosts of the Myrtles Plantation
#20
01/20/2026

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Join Kathy and Traci as they explore one of America's most famous haunted locations: the Myrtles Plantation in St. Francisville, Louisiana. 

In this episode, Kathy shares the story behind a unique artifact in the Paranormal Museum—a cutting from the oleander tree at the center of the plantation's most enduring ghost story. 

But this isn't just another retelling of the legend of “Chloe,” the enslaved woman said to haunt the property. Instead, Kathy examines what happens when we strip away romanticized narratives of the Old South and the Myrtles legend, ...


Deathbed Visions: Visitors from Beyond the Veil
#19
12/23/2025

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What if the boundary between life and death isn't as solid as we think? Join Traci and Kathy as they explore deathbed visions— when the dying encounter the otherworldly – departed loved ones, spiritual figures and glimpses of heaven.

Are these experiences comforting illusions or genuine glimpses beyond the veil? Drawing from bestselling books and deeply personal stories, the Curious Explorers navigate this profound mystery with their signature blend of heart and humor. Expect moving personal accounts, haunted objects, protection spells, and honest conversation about what might be possible in those final, sacr...


The REAL Bloody Marys
#18
12/17/2025

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Was the Bloody Mary legend based on Queen Mary? Countess Elizabeth Bathory? Or American Mary Worth? 

Who – or what – shattered the mirrors at the Paranormal Museum? 

Has Kathy ever summoned Bloody Mary?

And do YOU dare to summon her?

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For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

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Spirit Art, Mediumship, and More from the Curious Explorers
#17
11/26/2025

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Join Traci and Kathy as they explore the fascinating world of spirit portraiture!  

Traci shares her personal experience as a sitter for six talented mediums who create portraits of loved ones from the other side—complete with comparison photos (in the YouTube version of the episode).


The conversation weaves through the origins of spiritualism, the role of art in mediumship, and the enduring human desire to connect with those who have crossed over. 

Whether you’re a believer, a skeptic, or just curious, this episode offers a blen...


Psychic Detective Dorothy Allison: Murders and Mysteries in the Garden State
#16
11/19/2025

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In 1967, New Jersey housewife and mother of four, Dorothy Allison had a vivid dream about a missing boy – including that he had drowned and would be found in a drainpipe -- wearing a snowsuit, and with his shoes on the wrong feet. A month later, the boy’s body was found exactly as Dorothy had described, beginning her 30-year journey as a volunteer psychic detective assisting law enforcement.

In this episode, Traci and Kathy cover some of Dorothy Allison’s headline-making cases, and also discuss other notable psychic detectives like Pam Corona...


The “Boston Medium”: Scott Allan on Lingering Spirits, Mediumship & the Paranormal Realm
#15
10/29/2025

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Traci interviews Scott Allan, “The Boston Medium,” about his journey from funeral director to internationally known psychic medium. 

Scott talks about working in a haunted funeral home, his spontaneous intuitive opening, and shares EVPs of “David,” the spirit who spent years trying to get his attention. (See timestamps for location of EVPs.)

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“Ask (Bloody) Mary”
#14
10/26/2025

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The “Scary Stories” series continues, as Kathy shares a haunting, original take on the “Bloody Mary” legend, centered around a mysterious antique mirror in a charming “new” old house. Dare you say her name? 

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For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast (Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein), her meditations and more, visit: https...


“True” Stories about “Hoppie” - The Lake Hopatcong Monster!
#13
10/14/2025

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Join Traci and Kathy as they do a deeper dive into the legend of "Hoppie," the Lake Hopatcong monster. The Curious Explorers unearth the folklore and news items from the 1800s to the present about Hoppie and other NJ sea monster sightings. They also share some NJ personal anecdotes about the fabled home to this mysterious lake creature. 

Is Hoppie actually an anaconda? A looonnngg lived dinosaur? A spiritual being? Or something else entirely? Join the ladies as they unpack the intersection of myth, local history, and the enduring fascination with c...


“What Lurks Beneath” – Tales of the Lake Hopatcong Monster
#12
09/30/2025

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Get ready for the next chilling installment in our "Scary Stories Series," leading up to Halloween! In this episode, we dive into the eerie legend of the fabled monster said to lurk beneath the waters of New Jersey’s Lake Hopatcong. 

Is there really something sinister hiding in the watery depths, or is it simply a myth? Listen in and decide for yourself—if you dare.

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“La Llorona” & True Crimes Against Nature
#11
09/23/2025

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In Part 2 of “La Llorona,” Kathy and Traci unpack the history and psychology of the legend – including La Llorona’s jealousy, heartbreak, murder and madness. They also discuss true crime cases of filicide and the intersection of mental illness, evil, and murder. 

[Trigger warning: this episode covers 3 real life cases of mothers who murdered their children. Listener discretion is advised.]

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La Llorona (Part 1), and the “Scary Stories” Countdown to Halloween
#10
09/12/2025

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In this chilling episode, the ladies of Curious Explorers invite you to dim the lights and gather close for a haunting journey into the legend of La Llorona—the Weeping Woman. As autumn settles in and Halloween approaches, Kathy weaves a spellbinding retelling of one of the most enduring and eerie folktales from the Americas.

La Llorona is a spectral figure whose grief and warning echo along riversides and through generations. She reminds us of the power of myth, the weight of loss, and the rules we pass down to...


Frankenstein: Mary Shelley’s Dark Creation
#9
09/04/2025

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Join the Curious Explorers they count down to Spooky Season with Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. Grab a cup of tea (or perhaps a glass of wine) as Kathy does a deep dive into the complex, tragic, and deeply human narrative that birthed one of literature’s most iconic monsters. The ladies also ponder Frankenstein’s eerie and prescient themes as they relate to contemporary science, technology, and the sometimes murky boundaries of human endeavor.

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Lori Williams on Remote Viewing, Bigfoot, & the Mysteries of the Universe
#8
08/20/2025

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Master remote viewer Lori Williams joins Traci to talk all about remote viewing -- from its use as a highly accurate psychic tool, to Lori’s journey working with luminaries Lyn Buchanan, Mel Riley, and more. Lori also discussed her previous work with law enforcement, how remote viewing can reveal the answers to life’s most pressing questions, and how you can become a highly skilled viewer. 

In the second half, Lori shares what she learned from remote viewing Bigfoot, and describes the uncanny events that...


Alien Abductions, Oysters, & Military Mysteries on the Cape
#7
08/09/2025

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Are Cape Cod alien sightings an open secret? 

What made Kathy flee Truro Air Force Base? 

And what happened to the soldier who “lost” two hours of time? 

Find the answers to these questions and more on this episode of Curious Explorers!

Chapters:

Budd Hopkins Introduction – 06:18Guglielmo Marconi – 06:50Truro Air Force Base – 09:54Budd Hopkins, Alien Abductions & Hypnosis --16:21The Soldier's Missing Time – 23:42Kathy's Creepy Encounter at Truro Air Force Base – 25:07Traci's Take on Hypnosis – 29:45

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Van Helsing, Spoon Bending, and Blue Steel
#6
07/29/2025

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Was there real life Van Helsing?  Did Traci bend a spoon with her mind? Is Kathy channeling Zoolander? And who let the dogs out?? 

In this episode, Kathy and Traci tackle 80s TV nostalgia, “blue steel,” and the historical events that inspired Bram Stoker’s Van Helsing, werewolf stories, and more. 

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Auras, Energy, and a Wee Bit of Ireland
#5
07/08/2025

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What do Barbara Brennan, Bill Bengston, Bernard Grad, and biophoton research have in common (besides the letter B?)? They all shed some light on the phenomenon of auras - or the energy fields around us that some people can see (and we all probably perceive in some way). In this episode, Traci and Kathy ponder what auras may be, how they’re connected to healing, psi, and consciousness, as well as what auras might tell us about someone’s health, personality, and more. The ladies also chat about current biophoton research show...


Disembodied Voices, Bridget Bishop & the Salem Witch Trials
#4
06/17/2025

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This episode begins with the Curious Explorers catching up and sharing some eerie Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVPs) that were captured while recording some of Kathy & Traci’s spookiest episodes.

The heart of this episode, however, is the story of Bridget Bishop, the first woman executed during the Salem Witch Trials of 1692. The Curious Explorers discuss the climate of fear, hysteria, and social control that led to the unjust arrest and execution of Bridget Bishop and numerous others during this dark period in history. 

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Ghost Stops, Trucker Lore, Haunted Highways & More!
#3
06/10/2025

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What do hell hounds, haunted bathrooms and Screaming Jenny have in common?  Can you really get your (ghostly) fix on Route 666? Will Kathy ever live out her fantasy of becoming a trucker? 

The answers to these questions and more (plus the winner of our recent giveaway on this episode of Curious Explorers!

For more on Kathy, Traci and the Curious Explorers Podcast, and to send us a message (we’d love to hear from you!), visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

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Vultures, Irish Breakfast, and Don't Pee on the Devil's Tree
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05/28/2025

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The Curious Explorers are serving up 80s hair, animal symbolism, and what happens if you disrespect the infamous “Devil’s Tree,” in Basking Ridge, NJ. Even better, all of this comes with a complimentary Irish breakfast. It’s so hearty and delicious, even “Annabelle” makes a cameo tonight. So touch up that Aquanet, pull up a chair at the Woolworth’s counter, order yourself some turkey, stuffing and mashed potatoes, and keep an eye out for those vultures.

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Cryptids, Cousins and a Very Paranormal First Year!
#1
05/05/2025

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What do Monty Python and New Jersey have in common? What creepy cryptid is terrorizing Hoboken kids? Which paranormal podcaster is related to Traci? And how can you win our first-ever giveaway? 

Check out our first episode of Season 2 - recorded live at the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park! - for answers to these questions and more. 

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Soviet Psi-Ops, Jersey Devil Fable Festival, & More from the Paranormal Realm
#29
04/24/2025

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In this episode, Kathy and Traci go deep down the rabbit hole of Psi Savant Wolf Messing, the Soviet campaign to perfect and weaponize psychic powers, what the CIA knew about this, and more. They also take some detours into everything from alien encounters on Cape Cod, to NJ drone sightings, dogs chasing deer, and “the Italian Goodbye.” 

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Ep. 28 Paranormal Smorgasbord: On-Screen Anomalies, Ghosts, and More
#28
04/16/2025

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Is Kathy’s new house haunted? What visual anomalies manifested during filming? And is whatever’s spooking Kathy’s dogs connected to whoever’s buried on her property? 

In this episode, the Curious Explorers unpack these mysteries and more. They also chat about the results of Kathy and Adam Berry’s mini investigation of the new museum in Provincetown. Finally, Kathy and Traci preview the upcoming Jersey Devil Fable Festival in Asbury Park, New Jersey (it’s the same weekend as the one year anniversary of Curious Explorers!).

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“Patience Worth”: Channeling, Muses and More!
#27
03/27/2025

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Was Patience Worth a 17th-century muse to 20th-century housewife Pearl Curran? Was the Ouija board the portal for Worth to transmit her writing through Curran?  Or was Curran disguising - or even consciously unaware of - her own literary gifts?

In this episode, Kathy and Traci explore the history and controversies surrounding the Patience Worth case and ponder other reported cases of otherworldly inspiration. They also discuss the broader themes of mediumship, spiritual communication, reincarnation, and the complex interplay between the conscious and subconscious mind. 

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Getting Paranormal with Kathy Kelly (via Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein)
#26
03/07/2025

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In this special collaboration with "Unpacking Possibility," Traci interviews Kathy about all things paranormal!

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Have you ever had a dream that later came true? Experienced, “mother’s intuition?” Sensed the presence of a loved one after they passed away? Or had a gut feeling that proved to be right? If you’re like 67% of people according to a recent survey, you’ve probably had at least one experience that falls under the broad umbrella of the “paranormal.” 


In this episode, Traci Stein welcomes back her good f...


Director Marty Stalker, Part II: Father Malachi Martin, the Rite of Exorcism, and More
#25
03/04/2025

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In Part II of the interview with Marty Stalker,  director of "Hostage to the Devil," Marty does a deeper dive into controversial exorcist, Father Malachi Martin; demonic possession;  and the paranormal phenomena that he continues to encounter when speaking on these topics. In fact, you’ll hear some of the strange audio interference we experienced while recording; and in the YouTube version, you’ll get another glimpse of the type of light anomaly that punctuated the interview.

Marty also discusses his conversations with notable personalities like Malachi Martin’s staunchest critic, Robert B...


Director Marty Stalker on 'Hostage to the Devil': Part I
#24
02/12/2025

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In this episode of Curious Explorers, we’re joined by Marty Stalker, the director of the documentary 'Hostage to the Devil,' which explores the life of Jesuit priest and exorcist Malachi Martin. Marty reveals his 6-year journey making the film, discusses the controversial life of Father Martin, and describes the supernatural “resistance” Marty encountered while making the movie and since then. The interview also delves deep into the complex character of Father Martin, the controversies around exorcism, and Marty's personal spiritual journey. 

Tune in for an intriguing conversation about filmmaking and one...


Angel, Demon or Spirit Guide?
#23
02/03/2025

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Did the Ouija board help a woman find her soul mate? Are otherworldly advisors inherently “good” or could they be something more sinister? And who’s our special guest on an upcoming episode of Curious Explorers?

For answers to these questions and more, check out this week’s episode where Kathy and Traci tackle these topics and more!

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Spirit Guide, Angel or Demon?
#23
02/02/2025

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Did the Ouija board help a woman find her soul mate? Are otherworldly advisors inherently “good” or could they be something more sinister? And who’s our special guest on an upcoming episode of Curious Explorers?

For answers to these questions and more, check out this week’s episode where Kathy and Traci tackle these topics and more!

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Mind Vs. Matter: Energy Healing and More
#22
01/09/2025

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Can our intentions affect matter? Why do words seem to reshape water crystals? Can energy healers make mice live longer or kill cancer cells? And if our thoughts and intentions are powerful, could this be dangerous? In this episode of Curious Explorers, Traci and Kathy dive into some of the science on energy healing in the lab and ponder what that means outside of it. 

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Seances, Reincarnation & Krampus is Coming to Get You…
#21
12/12/2024

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What weird stuff do the dead share with Kathy during the Asbury Park seances? Is a fan’s little boy really a reincarnated old man? And what happens if you’re on Krampus’s naughty list? (Hint: it’s not pretty.) We cover these topics, the upcoming “Dead of Winter” with Kathy & TV’s Adam Berry, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival, scary dreams, and much more on this episode of Curious Explorers!

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