We Ride at Dawn (ish)

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Hosted by actors Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is your weekly dose of unfiltered conversation, real-life chaos and a peek behind the scenes.At its heart, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is a podcast about friendship, resilience and showing up- even when the ride gets messy.  It’s about weathering storms, staying in the saddle and knowing you’ve got someone beside you when the sun comes up.Each episode dives into the glamorous and not-so-glamorous life as an actor, motherhood, friendship, wellness and everything in between.  It’s part therapy session, part girl’s night, par...

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WOULD YOU RATHER: Plane Drama, Lie Detectors & Nudes
Today at 11:00 AM

Some people fly to get somewhere. Others fly to start beef with strangers. Jessica’s late-night flight home from Nashville had a seatmate in the second category, and her airport story has everything: a fanny pack, an iPad, an oddly specific number and a husband who has clearly seen this before.


Lucky for us, it’s the perfect warm-up for the return of Would You Rather! Camilla and Jessica are back in the hot seat, and Jessica raided the deepest, darkest corners of the internet for her questions. Would you rather win an Emmy for...


We Did the Math. We Regret It
11/05/2026

Every month, Jessica suspects credit card fraud. Every month, the investigation leads back to Jessica. Jessica and Camilla tally up all the things we’ve decided are totally normal to pay for, from the $11 coffee with cold protein foam to the $24 Hailey Bieber Erewhon smoothie, the DoorDash order that triples in price, $8 airport water, and concert tickets that cost more than rent.


Along the way, Camilla confesses to a TikTok Shop habit she can’t explain, Jess defends her supplement-loaded water (she’s too scared to stop), and the two debate Becca Bloom’s theory on who shou...


MESSY MAILBAG: She Told Him EVERYTHING!
10/29/2026

Messy Mailbag goes IN PERSON, and things get messy before the mail is even open. Camilla shows up fresh off an LA traffic meltdown and a CVS saga that leaves her with one burning question: WHY does it take 30 minutes when the pills are RIGHT THERE? They’ve both played doctors on your screens, so is it time they opened their own pharmacy? (Pharmacolaje: coming soon, maybe never.)
Then the mailbag opens. One mom gets iced out by another at school pickup. Should she confront or keep her head down? The besties dig into people-pleasing, comparison, and what he...


Grey’s Anatomy & 9-1-1: Nashville | Set Secrets & a DWTS Showdown
10/22/2026

Jo Wilson QUIT. Blythe is wearing an ankle monitor. Ryan Phillippe just crashed brunch. And Carrie Ann Inaba pulled out an actual rulebook on live TV.  


It’s premiere week, and Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are finally back on the same couch, spilling everything. Jess went straight from the 9-1-1: Nashville set to a front-row seat at Dancing With the Stars, just in time for Harry Shum Jr.’s “illegal lift” scandal. Was it really about the lift, or is something more personal going on? (Also: a rogue leaf blower almost made Jess the...


A Little Unhinged, Very Well Dressed
10/15/2026

Camilla shows up in a bad mood and has no intention of pretending otherwise. Breakfast battles with her daughter have officially pushed her over the edge, and Jess wonders if the problem might actually be the parents. They get into morning chaos, natural consequences, and why making your kids smoothies is a rookie mistake.


Then it’s on to fall and winter trends, and the opinions are strong. Smudged red nails? Absolutely not. Leopard print? Yes. Quiet luxury? Maybe not so much. They cover ladylike dressing, brooches, the return of the doctor bag, and a...


Things We Believe: Soul Pets, Ouija Boards & 401(k)s
10/08/2026

Jessica and Camilla jump on the viral “Things I Believe” trend — except one came armed with soul-deep, woo-woo convictions and the other brought 401(k)s.


They put their beliefs to the test: agree, BS, or explain yourself. Soul pets. Talking to trees. Houses that call to you. Why Target is basically a mood stabilizer. Feeding your inner child. And the one thing you should NEVER touch… 


Plus: gossip as a love language (vault, vault, vault), sending your best friend truly horrific photos of yourself, the unmatched joy of canceled plans, di...


SELF CARE WITH KYLE K: Firing a therapist, Tracy Anderson is tomfoolery and The Thong song made me gay
10/01/2026

Jess is filming 9-1-1, so Camilla summoned back a familiar spirit. Kyle K is haunting the studio, answering all your Qs with his signature dose of petty.
We start where we probably should have started last time: football Hall of Fame family legacies and casually trying on Super Bowl rings in bars. We get into whether he’s been left on read, his beef with toddler birthdays, and why he truly does not care who trains Madonna. Then, a deep dive into why keeping screenshots from the Stone Age is not only acceptable, but necessary — plus the late...


Messy Mailbag: Grey's & 9-1-1 Secrets, Cheating Fiancées & Bad Decisions
09/24/2026

Grey's and 9-1-1: Nashville are BACK, Camilla has a margarita in hand, and Jess may or may not have remembered hers. With both shows returning October 15, the girls are spilling a little behind-the-scenes tea. Is Jo really done with medicine? What's Ryan Phillippe doing in Nashville? And after last season's Battle of the Blondes, is round two on the horizon? Then things get MESSY. A listener catches her brother's fiancée kissing a coworker. Does she tell him? Confront her? Mind her own business? Jess and Camilla have THOUGHTS. Plus, how Grey's actors sneak their lines, what's actually i...


30 Years, Too-Tight Leather Pants & the Kissing Bandit
09/17/2026

Thirty years of friendship means there are very few secrets left. Fortunately, and unfortunately, for Jess, Bonnie remembers all of them. This week, one of Jess’s dearest friends from Brown joins us to talk about what actually makes a friendship last three decades, starting with their very first impressions of each other and the inexplicable series of events that landed a 5’5” girl from Los Angeles, with strong Elle-Woods-before-Elle-Woods energy, on Brown’s elite crew team of giants. They get into the secret sauce of their friendship: being game for the adventure, making the hard stuff easy to talk about, a...


Kindergarten, College & the 20K Dorm Room
09/10/2026

Jess and Camilla are on opposite ends of the back-to-school emotional spiral this week: Jess just dropped her son off at college. Camilla just sent hers off to kindergarten. Different-sized backpacks. Same car cry. Then there are the dorm rooms. Apparently, sending your kid to college now includes $20,000 interior design jobs for a room they'll live in for eight months. Camilla calls for a ban. Jess has thoughts. A debate ensues. Also: the Sonny Angels takeover, the tiny plastic creatures currently holding tween girls-and their parents' wallets—hostage. And Camilla unveils her completely reasonable plan for coping when her ki...


No One Is Okay at the Airport
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09/03/2026

We’re back and we’re airborne, sort of. With the holiday weekend ahead we’re talking everything that’s wrong with air travel, starting with the TSA gaslighting us for two decades straight. Laptops out, laptops in, shoes on, shoes off, belt on, belt off, nobody knows the rules anymore, and somehow, we’ve all just accepted it. We’re also talking fellow passengers behaving like full-on criminals before the plane even leaves the gate, the unspoken marital warfare that is childcare at 35,000 feet, and the real debate on clapping when you land: is it only earned when it feels lik...


SELF-CARE WITH KYLE K
08/27/2026

This week, Camilla calls in the big (tanned) guns: Kyle K. He started as her Barry’s trainer/self-care guru, infiltrated her inner circle, and now—for better or worse—he’s part of yours.


Kyle promised to come in unfiltered and spill allll the tea. He delivered: Wellness. Witches. Workout lies. Exes. Revenge. The art of being petty. And the wildly specific things that can send him into an immediate spiral.
Plus: the story behind Kyle K Quotes, the anonymously run Instagram account that’s been documenting—and leaking—the most outrageous things he’s said for years...


Margaritas, Prescriptions, and a Presidential Bid (Messy Mailbag #2)
08/20/2026

Jessica and Camilla are back with round two of the Messy Mailbag, and this one gets personal. Camilla finally tells the story behind copying Jessica's glasses, and how her subscription... we mean, prescription, did her dirty. Then Jessica drops a bombshell: she might run for president, and Camilla's first duty as campaign manager is instating "Messy Margarita Mondays" as official policy. The girls debate which historical era they'd each be thriving in, dig up some 9-1-1: Nashville and Grey's Anatomy behind-the-scenes secrets that still crack them up to this day. Plus: on-set rituals, a secret handshake, and the...


Would You Rather…The Episode We Almost Couldn’t Finish
08/13/2026

We played Would You Rather and there is no coming back from some of these answers. A Moon flight vs. White House residency, loving what you’re great at vs. being great at what you love, Aliens vs. Zombies and then it gets unhinged in the best way. A few questions we genuinely could not finish answering out loud. There’s laughing so hard it turns into actual tears and Jessica may have blacked out. Camilla and Jessica did not hold back on this one.


Watch to see which questions broke us.


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The Scaries for Summerween
08/06/2026

Jessica's out, so Camilla brings her other, other half, husband Matt, for a spooky new spinoff called We Ride at Midnight(ish). First up is the real horror story of their family vacation to Hawaii, from a household-wide "shut up" ban gone wrong to Matt's relentless photo-taking, a stubbed toe ER visit, and the movie theater family from hell. Then things get genuinely eerie as Camilla unloads her research on alien conspiracy theories. What do aliens and Ancestry.com have in common? And a breakdown of the FOUR reported alien species. Equal parts marriage therapy, travel horror story, and...


Parent Trap: Sleepaway Camps
07/30/2026

Jessica shares the emotional (and logistical) rescue mission that brought her homesick camper home early. Camilla admits she is not opposed to running a background check before a sleepover. Together, they swap camp horror stories — theirs and their kids’ — unexpected triumphs, day-one allergy disasters, British camp culture (spoiler: not much canoeing), and the surprising Hollywood connection hiding in Jessica’s own theater camp days.


If you’ve ever put name tags on 152 items (socks need to be tagged individually, obvi), cried in the camp parking lot, or wondered whether you’re raising a resilient kid or just...


We used to Pre-Game. Now We Play Mahjong…
07/23/2026

54% of Americans drank less alcohol in 2025 — the steepest drop ever recorded — and Jess and Camilla have thoughts. They get into the “sober curious” movement, whether GLP-1s are quietly killing happy hour, and why Gen Z skipped the drinking-culture memo entirely. Camilla spills on her 30 days alcohol-free (spoiler: her jawline has opinions), Jess shares that her Dry January pushed it’s way past the first month of the year, and then it somehow it all spirals into a full-blown mahjong obsession. Hangxiety, red carpet horror stories, and a woman named Beth who may be quietly teaching all of Los Angeles to...


The Very First MESSY MAILBAG!
07/16/2026

The Messy Mailbag is officially OPEN! Camilla and Jessica answer your questions about stories, projects, opinions, and life updates we’ve shared on past episodes. You asked for follow-ups—they've got 'em.)


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The Premium Personality Package!
07/09/2026

Not everyone gets the Premium Personality Package.


Some people get the polished, socially acceptable version. Others get unlimited access: the tangents, the voice notes, the weird theories, and the emotional downloads.


This week, Camilla and Jess are talking about who gets the full subscription, how they earned it, and why access to your personality might be your most valuable resource.


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Fortune Favors the Bold
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07/02/2026

Camilla tries a DIY bang trim after watching ONE TikTok. It goes about as well as you’d expect. Jessica, meanwhile, has a question that’s been top of mind: what’s the actual difference between being nice and being kind? Turns out it’s not just the word choice — it’s everything. One is armor. The other takes real courage. They get into spilled catastrophes, the invisible “good girl” rulebook Hollywood handed them decades ago, and whether any of this theory survives being asked if you’ll switch a window seat for a middle seat.


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A New York Minute
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06/25/2026

A trip to New York, the madness of Upfronts week, and one very unfortunate memory from the Grey’s Anatomy days all collide in this episode.

Jessica and Camilla swap stories from behind the scenes, including emergency fashion fixes, borrowed underwear, and a moment from more than ten years ago that somehow never made it out of the vault… until now.

Plus, Jessica shares an unexpected detail from filming her 9-1-1 Nashville finale fight scene with LeAnn Rimes and why surviving Hollywood sometimes requires preparation, chaos, and a sense of humor.

As alwa...


New Dawn New Day
06/18/2026

New name, new era, same Jess & Camilla. They are officially back! In this premiere episode, they’re unpacking the brand-new look, the chaotic photoshoot that nearly triggered a full-blown panic attack, and life updates they’ve been hoarding while they were away. Trust us when we say that you have a lot to catch up on.


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We Ride at Dawn (ish) | Coming June 18!
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06/17/2026

Hosted by actors Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is your weekly dose of unfiltered conversation, real-life chaos and a peek behind the scenes.


At its heart, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is a podcast about friendship, resilience and showing up- even when the ride gets messy.  It’s about weathering storms, staying in the saddle and knowing you’ve got someone beside you when the sun comes up.


Each episode dives into the glamorous and not-so-glamorous life as an actor, motherhood, friendship, wellness and everything in between.  It’s part t...


Call It with Selling Sunset’s Sandra Vergara
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11/11/2025

Is ‘Selling Sunset’ selling more lies than listings? Sofia Vergara’s sister Sandra joins Jess and Camilla to spill what’s real and what’s reality-TV fiction.

She dishes on the “crafted” chaos, “directed” drama, and her so-called friendship with Chrishell.

Plus, Sandra explains the truth behind the Friendsgiving blow-up, why Nicole was fired and whether she’ll be back on Sunset Boulevard next season.

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Call It Hot Takes, Hollywood Dreams and One Savage Frenemy
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11/04/2025

The girls get real, ridiculous and way too honest answering your fan questions. Hear their DWTS favorites, Sexiest Man Alive picks and the most chaotic chase for a 5pm first date. Plus, Camilla pitches the ultimate Grey’s storyline, and Jessica surprises the Crew with her secret dream reality show.

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Furry Skims, Ageless Skin and a Tacky Christmas Trend?
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10/31/2025

No beating around the bush, Jess and Camilla call out the ‘hair on underwear’ trend, facelift fails, and the beauty treatment you SHOULDN’T try! 

Plus, move over Ralph Lauren…how Camilla is decking the halls her way, and why she’s OK being called ‘tacky’ when it comes to a cherished holiday tradition.

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Call It Throuples Therapy Over a ‘Bear-y’, Scary Encounter
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10/28/2025

A backyard bear, a freaked-out Camilla and one very unfiltered husband. There’s panic, laughter and just a hint of marital chaos as the Call It Crew talk through their feelings after a surprise visitor is caught on camera in Camilla and Matt’s backyard.

And…is Bigfoot real? Prepare to pick a side in this off-the-rails debate!

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Remembering Diane Keaton…with Kimberly Williams-Paisley
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10/24/2025

The Father of the Bride star opens up about losing her mentor and on-screen mom, Diane Keaton, and why her fondest memory with Diane didn't happen on a movie set.

Kimberly also dishes on her marriage to Brad Paisley, including who made the first move, how she really feels about his love songs, and the secret to keeping their relationship grounded and growing after two decades in the spotlight.

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Call It with Kimberly Williams-Paisley
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10/21/2025

What happens in Nashville... stays on the podcast! Jessica’s '9-1-1 Nashville' co-star Kimberly Williams-Paisley talks about what it’s like behind-the-scenes. 

Plus, the 'Father of the Bride' reveals what it’s like to be at the epi-center of all the emergencies as Nashville’s 911 operator...and how she feared she might never act again after losing her voice for two years.

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Call It with Anthony Hill
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10/16/2025

Grey’s Anatomy’s cardio cutie, Dr. Winston Ndugu, scrubs in to tell tales of onscreen plot twists and offscreen escapades at Grey Sloan Memorial, including his character’s close call inside the hospital’s  infamous “sex closet.”

Plus, he relives a “Super” night made possible by Paul Rudd…and how being a Kansas City hometown hero might just land him on Travis and Taylor’s wedding guest list!

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Call It: Secrets of the Season Premieres… everything you need to know about 9-1-1 Nashville and Grey’s
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10/13/2025

Camilla and Jessica deliver all the behind-the-scenes dish on the Grey’s and 9-1-1 Nashville premieres! Find out how Jessica’s on-screen beef with LeAnn Rimes turned into an online roast.

Plus, the story of a last minute 9-1-1 hire who the girls say is pure FIRE! And, from ‘Swiftie’ to ‘gifty,’ hear who received a special delivery from America’s favorite showgirl! 

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Call It Social Media Anxiety
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10/06/2025

Camilla and Jess have ‘thoughts’ about posting protocol.

The Call it Crew debates the do’s, don’ts, and double taps of social media. Find out who checks with who for quality control and what Crew member gets post-click jitters after clicking ‘share.’ 

From sweaty pits to throwing fits, hear about Chris O’Donnell’s unexpected brush with a social media moment and Jess and Camilla's go-to platforms for scrolling and posting!

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Call It with Kim Raver (Part 2)
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10/01/2025

The conversation continues, and this time Kim shares a little kiss and tell! From her on-screen smooch with Sophia Bush, to directing their love scene, Kim shares the juicy details between Teddy and Cass.

Plus, what she really thinks about her character's 'I Choose Me' moment.

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Call It with Kim Raver
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09/29/2025

Paging Doctor Teddy! The episode you’ve been asking for is finally here! Grey’s Anatomy fan favorite Kim Raver “calls it what it is” with Camilla and Jessica, revealing secrets from our favorite fictional hospital, including which castmates bonded on screen and off.

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Call It Short & Sweet: Socialites, Spa Nights, and Skirt Heights
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09/24/2025

An ageless episode where Jessica and Camilla discuss the buzzworthy trends on TikTok. 

Watch out socialites, they're calling out the good, the bad, and the blowouts!

Find out the dirt on the mini skirt, who likes to shimmer like a winner, 

and who thinks it’s time to pack up the pearls.

Plus, how to spot a millennial in the wild, and why you won’t run into Jessica at a night spa!

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Call It: Bad Dates, Good Gossip & One Very Revealing Storyline
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09/22/2025

The Call It Crew is not holding back in this Q&A episode!

Camilla dishes on a dating disaster you have to hear RIGHT NOW!

Plus, a certain anatomy-focused plotline and the parenting decision that backfired.

And a bad case of the giggles on Grey's? 

Find out which scene had the set laughing-out-MEOW!

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Call It: Pumpkin Spice & Everything Nice?
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09/17/2025

Too soon?

Jessica and Camilla are not on the same pumpkin flavored page when it comes to Halloween decor.Find out who's been stocking up on gourds in September as the Call It Crew tries to 'squash' a decoration debate. Is it too soon to get into the spooky spirit?

Plus, the pumpkin product that really gets under your skin!

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Call It Locking In, Glow-Up Goals, and Going Back-To-School!
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09/15/2025

New Year’s resolutions in September? It’s take two for the ‘Call It Crew’ as they share their new round of self-care goals. Hear why back-to-school season has been a ‘wake up’ call for Jessica and Camilla, and all about the red carpet reunion we’ve been waiting to see! 

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Call It Short & Sweet: Fall Fashion, Suede Sneakers, & Duck Nails?
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09/10/2025

Grab your pumpkin spice latte and fall in love with this episode because Camilla and Jessica are breaking down the do's and don'ts of fall fashion.

From their go-to sweaters to their favorite boots, the Call It Crew is ready for their autumn rebrand, are you?

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Call It A Wedding, A Confession, and a Whole Lotta “Noooo!”
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09/08/2025

Jess & Camilla are diving into a Grey’s Anatomy Season Finale and things get messy.

From Amelia’s runaway bride moment to a living-room C-section, nothing about this episode was low-drama. Camilla gets candid about shooting the moment her big secret comes out and getting a little “booby” on screen, while Jess shares what it was like to be very pregnant and very tired during this shoot.

Plus, the goodbye we didn’t know was a goodbye.

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