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Safe Travels explores National Parks and wild places through in-depth conversations with the people who know them best - park rangers, scientists, biologists, geologists, archaeologists, and conservationists. Each episode goes beyond travel tips to uncover the science, history, wildlife, and conservation stories that bring these landscapes to life. Hosted by Joey Liberatore, Safe Travels Pod turns expert insight into engaging, accessible conversations - helping listeners experience public lands with deeper understanding and appreciation.

Big Bend National Park: The Border Wall Debate with Bob Krumenaker
04/10/2026

Bob Krumenaker, a seasoned conservationist (over 41 years with the NPS) and former superintendent of Big Bend National Park, discusses the ecological, cultural, and political stakes involved with the proposed border wall construction in the remote, environmentally rich area of Big Bend National Park. Learn about why Big Bend is a sanctuary worth protecting and how local communities and conservation advocates are turning the tide against intrusive border infrastructure.

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Bob shares his extensive career in the National Park Service and his deep connection to desert ecosystems.The unique geological and biological highlights that make...


John Day Fossil Beds National Monument: Fossil Preparation with Paleontologist Jennifer Cavin
02/20/2026

In this episode of the Safe Travels Podcast, I sit down with Jennifer Cavin, Fossil Preparator and Lab Manager at John Day Fossil Beds National Monument, to explore one of the most overlooked roles in paleontology: fossil preparation.

When most people think about paleontology, they picture scientists excavating fossils in the field. But behind every museum-quality fossil specimen is a highly skilled fossil preparator, the meticulous expert who stabilizes, cleans, preserves, and reconstructs fossils for scientific research and public display.

In This Episode, We Cover:

What a Fossil Preparator actually does in a paleontology...


John Day Fossil Beds National Monument: Geology & Paleontology with Paleontologist Nick Famoso
02/13/2026

In this episode of Safe Travels, I’m joined by Dr. Nick Famoso, Paleontology Program Manager at John Day Fossil Beds National Monument, for a fascinating deep dive into one of the richest fossil regions in North America.

We explore the incredible geology of the John Day Basin, how millions of years of volcanic activity helped preserve ancient life, and the remarkable fossil record of prehistoric mammals that once roamed the Pacific Northwest — including some of the earliest horses, ancient rhinos, camels, and dog-like predators that filled a weasel-style ecological niche.

Dr. Famoso also explains why...


Petrified Forest National Park: The Art & Science of Museum Curation with Curator Matt Smith
01/23/2026

Have you ever wondered how a museum is built inside a national park—or what happens to the fossils once they’re discovered?

In this episode of Safe Travels, we go behind the scenes at Petrified Forest National Park with Park Ranger and Museum Curator Matt Smith to explore the art, science, and storytelling behind creating a world-class paleontological and natural history museum.

Matt walks us through how fossils are collected, preserved, cataloged, and interpreted, and we dive into some of the incredible museum and research collections housed at Petrified Forest National Park. From Triassic-era foss...


Petrified Forest National Park: Prairie Dogs & Park Biology with Biologist Dylan Schneider
01/16/2026

Prairie Dogs, Bats, and Pronghorn: The Living Landscape of Petrified Forest National Park

Prairie dogs make their debut on the Safe Travels Podcast! In this episode, we sit down with Park Ranger and Biologist Dylan Schneider to explore the vital role prairie dogs play in shaping the ecosystem of Petrified Forest National Park.

Prairie dogs are far more than charismatic grassland mammals — they are a keystone species, influencing soil health, plant diversity, and habitat availability for countless other animals. Dylan explains how their burrows and behavior help maintain balance across the park’s high desert land...


Petrified Forest National Park: Route 66 & Park History with Historian Bill Parker
01/09/2026

In this episode of the Safe Travels Podcast, I’m joined by Bill Parker, Chief of Resources and Park Historian at Petrified Forest National Park, for a wide-ranging conversation that explores the historical and logistical forces that have shaped one of America’s most iconic desert landscapes.

Bill takes us beyond the park’s famous petrified wood and into the human stories tied to Route 66, early automobile tourism, and the rise of roadside Americana in northern Arizona. We dive into how Holbrook, Arizona helped inspire Pixar’s Radiator Springs, the significance of the historic REO Mountaineer, and why Petr...


Petrified Forest National Park: Archeology & Human History with Archeologist Jon Hardes
01/02/2026

Petrified Forest National Park is one of the most significant archeological landscapes in the United States, preserving evidence of human history that stretches back over 13,000 years. While the park is often associated with petrified wood and Triassic-era fossils, its cultural resources tell an equally powerful story about long-term human interaction with the land.

In this episode of the Safe Travels Podcast, I’m joined by Lead Archeologist and Park Ranger Jon Hardes for an in-depth conversation on archeology at Petrified Forest National Park and why the park plays a critical role in understanding the culture of descendent co...


Petrified Forest National Park: Dinosaurs, Paleontology & Geology with Paleontologist Adam Marsh
12/26/2025

In this episode, we explore the world of paleontology at Petrified Forest National Park with Park Ranger Adam Marsh, the park’s Lead Paleontologist. Known worldwide for its colorful petrified wood, Petrified Forest National Park is also one of the most important paleontological sites in the United States, preserving exceptionally well-preserved Triassic-era fossils dating back more than 200 million years.

Ranger Adam Marsh breaks down what paleontology is, why fossil preservation at Petrified Forest is so unique, and how the park plays a leading role in modern paleontological research. We discuss major fossil discoveries at Petrified Forest National Pa...


Guadalupe Mountains National Park: Geology, Wildlife & Human History with Park Ranger Jake Denton
12/19/2025

In this episode of the Safe Travels Podcast, we visit Guadalupe Mountains National Park in West Texas and sit down with Interpretive Park Ranger Jake Denton to explore the park’s geology, wildlife, and human history.

Guadalupe Mountains National Park is home to Guadalupe Peak, the highest point in Texas at 8,751 feet, and protects the world’s most complete example of a fossilized Permian-era reef—one of the most significant geologic features in North America. Ranger Jake breaks down how this ancient reef formed, what wildlife thrives in the park today, and why the Guadalupe Mountains are so imp...


Carlsbad Caverns National Park: Geology, Bats and Park Information with Park Ranger Tiffany Rugger
12/12/2025

We’re back! This episode takes us to Carlsbad Caverns National Park in beautiful New Mexico, where we sit down with Park Ranger Tiffany Rugger.

Tiffany serves as a Preventative Search and Rescue (PSAR) Ranger, and she joins us for a wide-ranging conversation covering the park’s incredible geology, its world-famous bat colony, surprising creatures like horsehair worms, essential park insights, and much more.

It was an honor to speak with Tiffany—her depth of knowledge and passion for Carlsbad Caverns added so much to this episode. I’m grateful for her work at one of the w...


I quit my job for Safe Travels
10/13/2025

I'm in Bend, Oregon, sitting underneath a starry night sky with a warm fire in front of me. 

It's been a month or so since i've shared an episode with you. So I wanted to let you all know what's been going on. Good news: there will be a lot more episodes to come.

Thank you endlessly for supporting this podcast. 
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Friends of Big Bear Valley: The Story of Jackie & Shadow with Sandy Steers
09/12/2025

Sandy Steers is the Executive Director of Friends of Big Bear Valley (FOBBV), a non-profit in Big Bear Lake, California, dedicated to protecting and preserving wildlife habitat across the 15-mile Big Bear Valley in the San Bernardino National Forest.

At the heart of the valley is an active bald eagle nest—home to Jackie and Shadow. Through FOBBV’s 24/7 livestream camera, millions of viewers around the world have been able to witness the pair’s lives up close, finding joy, education, and even comfort in the process.

In this episode, Sandy and I explore the incred...


NASA JPL: Utilizing National Parks for Space Exploration with Dr. Morgan Cable
09/05/2025

Dr. Morgan Cable is a research scientist at NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California. Her mission is to help answer one of humanity’s biggest questions: are we alone in the universe?

In this episode, we explore how NASA uses national parks as analog sites to study the landscapes of other worlds. Dr. Cable explains how these environments provide testing grounds for new technologies designed to operate on different terrains and in alien atmospheres.

Named to the American Chemical Society’s “Talented 12” in 2018, Dr. Cable has contributed to some of NASA’s most exc...


Rocky Mountain National Park: Large Mammal Ecology with Park Ranger Will Deacy
08/08/2025

Will Deacy is the Large Mammal Ecologist at Rocky Mountain National Park, where he plays a key role in managing some of the park’s most iconic wildlife. With a background that includes grizzly bear research on Kodiak Island in Alaska, Will brings a wealth of experience to his work with Rocky’s booming elk and moose populations—species that have flourished in the absence of natural predators.

In this episode, we dive into the fascinating world of large mammals at Rocky Mountain National Park. Will shares insights into the ecological challenges of managing these populations and what i...


Rocky Mountain National Park: Climbing, Wilderness & SAR with Park Ranger Mike Lukens
08/01/2025

In this episode, we sit down with Mike Lukens, who has dedicated over 15 years to Rocky Mountain National Park and currently serves as the Climbing and Wilderness Program Supervisor. Mike oversees critical aspects of the park's operations, including Search and Rescue (SAR) efforts, ensuring visitor safety across its vast wilderness.

Beyond his administrative role, Mike is an accomplished climber. In 2016, alongside Quinn Brett and Max Barlerin, he completed the first ascent of the "Colorado Route" on the south face of Fitz Roy in Patagonia—a challenging 500-meter climb rated at 5.11c .

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Rocky Mountain National Park: Park History & General Information with Park Ranger Kyle Patterson
07/25/2025

Kyle Patterson is the Public Affairs Officer at Rocky Mountain National Park. For the past 23 years, she’s served as a Park Ranger, dedicating her career to community engagement and media relations.

In this episode, Kyle and I dive into what makes Rocky Mountain one of America’s most iconic national parks. We explore the park’s rich history, how visitors experience its vast landscape, and the unique challenges and joys of protecting such a beloved place.

Kyle’s passion for Rocky Mountain is undeniable. Her deep love for the park is infectious, and I thorough...


Mesa Verde National Park: Archeology & Human History with Archeologists Carole Graham & Laura Brumbaugh
07/18/2025

In this episode, I’m joined by Carole Graham and Laura Brumbaugh, two archaeologists from Mesa Verde National Park. We explore their roles within the park, what makes the Mesa Verde region such a culturally rich and significant place, and the deep, continuous human history that has unfolded here over thousands of years.

I'm incredibly grateful to have had both Carole and Laura on the podcast. Their knowledge and passion for archaeology—and for sharing the stories of the people who lived in this remarkable landscape—make this a special conversation.
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Mesa Verde National Park: Ancestral History & Significance with Indigenous Ranger Satchel Martin
07/11/2025

Satchel Martin is an Indigenous Ranger Intern at Mesa Verde National Park. Satchel is a part of the Hopi Tribe of Arizona and shares with us his special and personal perspective of the ancestral history and significance of Mesa Verde. 

I am so thankful for this conversation with Satchel. His personal stories and experiences are so special to listen to. His insight will help lead people towards a more connected and respectful experience when they're visiting Mesa Verde National Park.
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Mesa Verde National Park: Park History & General Information with Park Ranger Dalton Dorrell
07/04/2025

Dalton Dorrell is a Supervisory Park Ranger that focuses on Education, Community Outreach, and Interpretation at Mesa Verde National Park. In our conversation together, Ranger Dalton and I chatted through Mesa Verde's incredible history, tips and tricks for visitors, important safety rules and a whole lot more. 

Dalton is from south-western Colorado and has dreamed of working at Mesa Verde since he was a little kid. He even chased his dreams as a 12-year-old volunteering with the US Forest Service. 

I had an amazing time chatting with Ranger Dalton, he's a special human who cares de...


Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park: Natural & Cultural Resources with Park Ranger Brinnen Carter
06/27/2025

Brinnen Carter is the Chief of Resources at Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park. In this episode, Ranger Brinnen and I chat all about the incredible natural and cultural resources of the Black Canyon.

From traditional hunting grounds for ancient tribes to learning all about the individuals that make up the resource team, Brinnen shares fascinating information throughout this podcast.

I had a blast getting to sit down with Park Ranger Brinnen, he's an incredible land manager with an amazing amount of knowledge. 
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Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park: Geology, Wildlife & Park Information with Park Ranger Lori Rome
06/20/2025

Lori Rome is the Chief of Interpretation at Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park. She's had an incredible career with the National Park Service, working at some of the premier parks in the United States. 

In this episode, Lori and I chat all about the Black Canyon - from Geology to wildlife and a whole lot more. 

Lori also shares tips for visitors that are looking to do some of the top hikes and those that dare to scramble down to the bottom of the canyon. 
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Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve: Archeology & Human History with Park Ranger Ree Rodgers
06/13/2025

Ree Rodgers is the first and only archeologist at Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve. She is deeply passionate about her work and the human stories that make up our history. 

In this episode, Ree and I chat all about archeology, it's purpose, and the human stories that tell the story of the Great Sand Dunes. 

I really appreciate Ree, her storytelling and her work. Grateful to have had her on the podcast! 
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Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve: Natural & Cultural Resources with Park Ranger Fred Bunch
06/11/2025

Fred Bunch is the Chief of Resources at Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve. Fred is a native of Alamosa, Colorado, and has been working at Great Sand Dunes for nearly 40 years. 

Fred has a very important role in the park, tasked with protecting and preserving the park's natural and cultural resources. In this podcast, we chat about what those resources are and what it means to Fred to be such a critical piece in protecting such a special area and park. 

Fred Bunch has such a wonderful, humorous personality. I feel very grateful to ha...


Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve: Park Information with Park Ranger Sierra Willoughby
06/06/2025

Sierra Willoughby is the Chief of Interpretation at Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve. Sierra has served at 11 different National Park Service sites and is the definition of a park steward. 

In this podcast, Sierra and I discuss Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve, from park rules to ways visitors recreate. 

Sierra is a wonderful guest who cares deeply about our national parks and wild places. 
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Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve: Fish Restoration & Wildlife with Park Ranger Dewane Mosher
05/30/2025

Dewane Mosher is a Park Ranger and Wildlife Biologist at Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. Dewane has had an interesting, and special, journey to the park service after spending two decades in the Army as a mechanic. 

In this episode, Dewane and I chatted about the incredible fish restoration story that has taken place in the waters that surround the Great Sand Dunes. We also discuss how to fish responsibly at the park, ways you can access the fish and much more! 

I loved having Dewane on the podcast, he is a selfless hu...


Great Sand Dunes National Park & Preserve: Geology & Hydrology with Park Ranger Andrew Valdez
05/23/2025

Andrew Valdez is a Physical Scientist and is the first, and only, geologist at Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. He is a native of Alamosa, Colorado - which is the gateway city to the Great Sand Dunes. Valdez was hired full-time with the NPS in 1994 and his work as a geologist helped lead the Great Sand Dunes to national park status. 

In this conversation, Andrew and I chatted all about the geology and hydrology of this magnificent landscape. 

It was such an honor to have Andrew join the podcast. He is filled with in...


Preparing for the Pacific Crest Trail with Ultrarunner Mak Regan
05/16/2025

Mak Regan is an ultrarunner based out of Colorado. Mak has an amazing running resume, including competing in multiple 100-mile races. In addition to running, Mak is a chemical engineer and has a passion for thru-hiking and the great outdoors. 

Soon, she will be taking off to thru-hike the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), a trail that spans 2,650 miles from the southern border in California to the northern border in Washington state.

In our conversation together, Mak and I talk about her preparation for the PCT, food logistics, her passion for the outdoors and the amazing o...


Glacier National Park: Bears & Carnivores with Wildlife Biologist John Waller
05/09/2025

John Waller is a Park Ranger and Wildlife Biologist at Glacier National Park. He has spent over 20-years at the park and has accomplished many incredible feats during his tenure with the National Park Service. 

In this conversation, John and I go in-depth on grizzly bears and the carnivores that roam Glacier National Park. We cover grizzly behavior, share stories about John's incredible wildlife encounters, visitor and carnivore safety, plus a whole lot more.

Big thanks to John for joining me on the podcast! I think this is one of our most authentic conversations yet. 

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Glacier National Park: Geology, Park History & General Info with Park Ranger Diane Sine
05/02/2025

Park Ranger Diane Sine is a fixture at Glacier National Park. She's been recreating and working at the park for 45 summers and is currently the Lead Interpreter at Many Glacier. 

In this podcast, Diane and I chatted about her journey with the National Park Service, the geology of Glacier National Park, park history and general information surrounding trip planning to this majestic setting. 

Diane is an incredible human whose dedicated her life to telling the stories of one of America's most iconic national parks. 

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Captain, Champion & Conservationist with Hockey Hall of Famer Scott Niedermayer
03/28/2025

Scott Niedermayer is a four-time NHL Stanley Cup Champion, two-time Olympic Hockey Gold Medalist as the captain for team Canada and is a Hockey Hall of Famer. Scott is widely considered to be one of the best defensemen in NHL history and the greatest winner of his generation. In addition to his illustrious professional hockey career, Niedermayer is a conservationist with a deep passion for the outdoors. 

Scott's love for nature developed throughout his childhood while being raised in beautiful Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada. In this podcast we talk about Niedermayer's love for the outdoors, the steps h...


Protect our Parks with Former Park Ranger Kenan Chan
03/14/2025

Kenan Chan is one of the 1,000 NPS Park Rangers that were recently wrongfully terminated. Kenan was a Biological Science Technician at Channel Islands National Park that focused on long term monitoring of kelp forests and intertidal ecosystems. 

Kenan's work with the NPS was incredibly impactful for visitors and the ecosystems within the park. In our podcast together, Kenan and I chatted about his journey, the current challenges that the National Park Service is facing, how rangers were terminated and what visitors can do to support the parks. 

Here is Kenan's website: https://www.kenanchanphotography.com/Ne...


Death Valley Dark Sky Festival: Galaxy Evolution with Dr. Cameron Hummels
02/28/2025

Dr. Cameron Hummels is an astrophysicist and research scientist at Caltech focused on the formation and evolution of galaxies. Cameron and I recorded this episode at Death Valley National Park during their Dark Sky Festival. 

In this podcast, Dr. Hummels discussed the formation and evolution of galaxies, supercomputers, his journey through Death Valley, Occupy Mars, and much more!

It was an honor getting to chat with Dr. Hummels, I had an absolute blast meeting him. I left the Dark Sky Festival absolutely enthralled and fascinated with space.

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Tolowa Dee-ni' Nation: Cultural Significance of the Redwood Tree with Chairperson Jeri Lynn Thompson
02/14/2025

We're back among the redwoods! This time, we're at the mouth of the Smith River at Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park in Northern California. We were very lucky to be joined by the Chairperson of Tolowa Dee-ni' Nation, Jeri Lynn Thompson.

Jeri and I chatted about Tolowa Dee-ni' Nation and their history, their relationship with the National Park Service today, the cultural significance of the redwood tree and much more. 

Chairperson Jeri Lynn Thompson is incredible. The story of the Tolowa Dee-ni' people is beyond special. 

I hope you love this episode! The hi...


Saguaro National Park: Inspiring the Next Generation of Park Rangers with Cam Juárez
02/07/2025

Saguaro National Park's Community Engagement & Outreach Coordinator, Cam Juárez, joined the podcast to talk about the incredible work that the park does to inspire the next generation of park rangers and park goers. 

In this conversation, Cam and I discuss the importance of engaging local communities, creating more opportunities for people to work in environmental sciences and ways the National Parks can make the wilderness more accessible for those who have disabilities. 

Cam is filled with passion and ambition, it was an honor getting to spend time with him. 
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Saguaro National Park: Geology, Biology & Ecology of the Saguaro Cactus with Biologist Lucas Hetherington
01/31/2025

We've arrived at Saguaro National Park in Tucson, Arizona! In episode one from Saguaro, we're joined by Lucas Hetherington who is a biologist at the park. 

In our conversation, Lucas and I chatted about the geology of the Rincon and Tucson mountains, the biology of the Saguaro Cactus and the many interactions that the keystone species has with the Sonoran Desert. 

I thoroughly enjoyed my time with Lucas and I am so thankful for all of their work in the park.

You can watch this podcast on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dRJt0mbVk30


Redwood National & State Parks: A Comeback Story with Superintendent Steve Mietz
01/17/2025

There's an incredible story unfolding at Redwood National & State Parks. Redwood National Park Superintendent, Steve Mietz, joined the podcast to discuss the amazing restoration efforts that are happening with the redwood forests in Northern California. 

The parks are focused on restoration as opposed to preservation. In addition to restoring old-growth redwood forests, Superintendent Mietz also discussed the reintroduction of the California Condor.

One huge side effect of the current restoration efforts it's the revival of the cultural heritage in this area with many local tribes. 

Superintendent Mietz is incredible. I had such a bl...


Redwood National & State Parks: Biology and Ecology of the Redwood Tree with Forest Ecologist Lathrop Leonard
01/10/2025

In our second episode from Redwood National & State Parks we sat down with the Burn Boss and Forest Ecologist, Lathrop Leonard. Lathrop has been studying and restoring the redwood forest for nearly 20 years, his passion and love for these trees shone through in this episode as we chatted about the biology and ecology of the redwood tree. 

Additionally, we also talked about prescribed fire and how this burning methods can help promote a healthy ecosystem. 

I hope you enjoy this episode! I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation with Lathrop and am very thankful for his work in...


Redwood National & State Parks: Redwoods, Wildlife & Park Info with Patrick Taylor & Karla Jovel
01/03/2025

We've arrived at beautiful Redwood National & State Parks in Northern California! In episode one from the redwoods, we are joined by Redwood National Park Ranger Patrick Taylor and California State Parks Interpretive Ranger Karla Jovel. 

In this episode, we explore a high-level overview of the redwood trees, popular areas of the park, wildlife and feature a general overview of the history and goals of Redwood National and State Parks. 

In our next few episodes from this incredible place, we will dive deep into the biology of the redwood tree with a forest ecologist, then we'll si...


Capitol Reef National Park: Historic Orchards with Park Ranger and Horticulturist Fritz Maslan
12/27/2024

We're back with another episode from Capitol Reef National Park in Utah! This time, our focus is on the historic orchards that are in the Fruita District at the park. Park Ranger and Horticulturist Fritz Maslan joined us to talk about how he maintains the orchards, the history of the area, how visitors can interact with the fruit trees and much more! 

Fritz is incredible! I had such a blast chatting with him. If you have the opportunity to check out Capitol Reef, I highly encourage you to spend as much time as you can in the o...


Capitol Reef National Park: Geology, Human History & Wildlife with Park Ranger Shauna Cotrell
12/20/2024

We're at beautiful Capitol Reef National Park in south-central Utah! Visitor Services Program Manager and Park Ranger Shauna Cotrell joined the podcast to chat about geology, human history and wildlife at Capitol Reef. Near the end of the podcast, we also quiz Shauna with some national park trivia cards.  

Shauna and I sat in the middle of a beautiful orchard meadow at the park as we recorded our conversation. Special thanks to Park Rangers B Shafer and Katie Johnston for their contributions to this show, too. 

Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/VoH8sJ...