House of Folk Art

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By: Matt Ledbetter

Join Matt Ledbetter, esteemed auctioneer and folk art connoisseur hailing from Gibsonville, North Carolina, as he unveils the rich tapestry of Southern Folk Art. With personal ties to numerous folk artists through his renowned quarterly auctions, Matt brings you on a journey through the intricate history, the profound motivations, and the intimate encounters that shape the world of folk art.

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Episode 67 | Cursed Objects, Buyers Regret, and Rare Trading Cards
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In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt and Sully try something new: ten topics, six minutes each. Matt maps out a three-month House of Folk Art road trip from Tennessee to the Outsider Art Fair in New York, shares the story of two paintings that wouldn't stop talking to each other, and makes the case for buying brown furniture while it's cheap. Sully pitches time travel destinations, discusses cursed object collecting, and the two get into seller's regret, the one that got away, and the T206 Honus Wagner. Matt also tells the story of how Kobe Bryant's...


Episode 66 | Mike Smith Met S.L. Jones: Rare Video, Carvings & Stories
#66
09/28/2026

Matt sits down with collector Mike Smith for a closer look at the work of S.L. Jones, using several carved heads and drawings from Matt’s collection alongside Mike’s firsthand memories of visiting Jones at his home in West Virginia.

Mike met S.L. Jones late in his career and was able to spend time with him, photograph him, and document some of those visits on video. Matt and Mike compare early and late carvings, look at the similarities between Jones’ carved faces and drawings, break down the unusual stamped signatures found on some of his he...


Episode 65 | The Antique Baskets You Should Be Hunting For
#65
09/14/2026

Matt sits down with antique dealer and collector Laura Saville for a deep dive into old baskets, using examples from Matt’s collection and baskets Laura brought with her to answer a deceptively simple question: how do you know a good basket when you see one?

The episode starts with the best basket Matt says he has ever seen. They revisit footage from the Ledbetter Auctions sale, talk about the bidder who still regrets letting it go, and use it as the standard for what a truly great Appalachian basket can look and feel like.

Fr...


Episode 64 | Face Jugs, Monsters and the Art of Stacy Lambert
#64
08/31/2026

Kyle and Matt dive into the life, work, and wild imagination of North Carolina folk potter Stacy Lambert, using old photographs, stories, interview footage, and pieces from Matt’s collection to trace how Stacy developed a style completely his own.


Stacy Lambert Bio

Stacy was born in Randolph County in 1965, one of six children, and grew up around Seagrove. His parents worked in textiles rather than pottery, and his first artistic interest was drawing. After high school, he joined the Army, later returned to North Carolina, earned an associate degree in commercial art from Ra...


Episode 63 | The Lost Art of Door-Knock Picking with Wade Ledbetter
#63
08/17/2026

Wade Ledbetter returns to the House of Folk Art to talk about the lost art of door-knock picking.

Wade started picking around 1978 and spent more than 30 years driving back roads, choosing houses that looked promising, and knocking on doors to ask if anyone had old things they were ready to sell. In this episode, Matt asks him to explain what real picking looked like before Facebook Marketplace, online auctions, and yard-sale listings changed the business.

Wade walks through the pitch he used at the front door, how he gained someone’s trust, and why the fi...


Episode 62 | Mike Smith Was There: Rare Photos from Folk Art History
#62
08/03/2026

Mike Smith returns to the House of Folk Art with something remarkable: a collection of photographs he took while visiting folk artists across the South during the 1990s.

Mike estimates that he has photographed thousands of works, artists, homes, studios, and folk art environments over the years. In this episode, Matt sits down with him to look through around 50 of those images, many showing artists at home and surrounded by work that has since disappeared, changed hands, or been lost entirely.

The photographs include Benny Carter sitting in his living room and standing among the...


Episode 61 | Is This Folk Art? The Mystery of the Columbus Collage Man
#61
07/20/2026

Matt and Sully are back with a mystery collection from Columbus, Ohio.

This episode starts with a simple question: is Collage Folk Art? In front of them is a group of 147 handmade collages, all believed to be from the same unknown artist. The pieces came out of a Columbus estate, with no artist name, very little history, and just enough clues to make Matt think something important may be hiding in plain sight.

Before digging into the work, Sully gives a quick setup on collage as an art form, from early modern artists like Georges...


Episode 60 | Matt Shows Mike Smith the Rare Folk Art Leaving the Gallery
#60
07/06/2026

This episode starts with Mike returning to the table, where Matt has pulled together a group of rare folk art, pottery, baskets, quilts, and objects from the gallery before they ship out to new collections. Some of these pieces may not come back around for decades, so Matt wanted to get them on camera while they were still in the room.

The conversation begins with Mike’s 35 years in the folk art world and his early trips through the Southeast visiting artists. From there, Matt and Mike dig into Billy Ray Hussey, including a red-glazed lion Matt ca...


Episode 59 | What Does a Real Folk Art Collector Collect?
#59
06/22/2026

Matt and Sully are back at Ledbetter Auction Gallery in Gibsonville with a fresh stack from a 400-piece single-owner folk art collection that just came through the door.

The collection had already been unboxed and was waiting to be photographed, but Matt had not fully gone through it yet. So instead of picking their own favorites from around the gallery, Matt and Sully grab a random stack of about 40 pieces and start digging in with fresh eyes.

This episode is a look at what a real folk art collector collects: the known names, the lesser-known...


Episode 58 | Matt and Kyle Get Back to Folk Art
#58
06/08/2026

Matt and Kyle are back at the Auction Gallery in Gibsonville after a run of antique shows. Liberty and Fishersville were fun, but this episode gets back to the roots of House of Folk Art: self-taught art, pottery, carvings, and the stories behind the pieces.

Matt and Kyle pull work from around the gallery and talk through what makes each piece worth slowing down for. The episode starts with Sam Ezell, a North Carolina artist and picker whose work has become a major focus at the auction house, including a large group of pieces coming up in...


Episode 57 | Van Side at Fishersville Antique Expo
#57
05/25/2026

Fishersville was a great show this year. Friday was packed from the start, dealers were moving material early, and by Saturday morning Matt was already back at the van digging through the pile of things that he’s taking back home.


Matt pulls out a few of the buys from Fishersville and talks through them while the show is still happening around him: carved walking sticks, tramp art, Clyde Herman carvings, a dancing figure, a whirligig that nearly flies apart in the wind, and one folk art cane that immediately turns into a full bl...


Episode 56 | Liberty Buys, Fishersville Plans, and One Last Look at Benny Carter
#56
05/11/2026

Matt returns to the auction gallery after Liberty with the buys still sitting behind him and another show already on the calendar. This time, the conversation picks up in that brief window between antique shows, when the dust from one trip has barely settled and the next one is already starting to take shape.

Liberty had the feeling of a final chapter, but not necessarily a dead end. After months of questions about what the last Liberty show would mean, Matt came away with a different impression. Dealers were still buying, still selling, and many were already...


Episode 55 | Riding Out to Liberty with Matt Ledbetter
#55
04/27/2026

Matt Ledbetter sits down before heading out to Liberty, North Carolina to set up Wade's tent for the last Liberty Antique show.

Held twice a year in Randolph County, the Liberty Antiques Festival has long been one of the best known antique shows in the region. Dealers from more than 25 states set up across a large farm setting, with everything from pottery, furniture, and quilts to decoys, folk art, glass, and country Americana. The show has built its reputation around original antiques and collectibles rather than crafts or reproductions.

For Matt and his family, Liberty...


Episode 54 | What Matt Bought at the Catawba Valley Pottery Festival
#54
04/13/2026

Matt Ledbetter and Kyle sit down with a table full of pieces from the Catawba Valley Pottery Festival and break down what they picked up over the weekend.

Held once a year in Hickory, North Carolina, the Catawba Valley Pottery Festival brings together over a hundred working potters alongside a small group of dealers specializing in historic Catawba Valley pottery. It is one of the few places where you can walk booth to booth, meet the artists directly, and see both contemporary work and pieces rooted in a tradition that goes back generations.

Matt talks...


Episode 53 | 10 Picks Inside a 15,000 Sq Ft Folk Art Warehouse
#53
03/30/2026

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt Ledbetter and Kyle walk through the newly expanded Ledbetter warehouse and put it to use right away. With over 15,000 square feet of material to dig through, they each pick out five pieces and bring them back to the table to break down what they are seeing, what stands out, and why certain objects hold more weight than others.

The episode starts inside the warehouse, moving through shelves, stacks, and walls of material as they search for pieces that feel like real folk art. There is no category restriction...


Episode 52 | Are Quilts Folk Art? Collecting Antique American Quilts with Laura Saville
#52
03/16/2026

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt Ledbetter sits down with longtime friend and antique dealer Laura Saville for a full conversation on antique American quilts, how to look at them, how to date them, and why more collectors are starting to take them seriously as both historical objects and pieces of art.

Laura talks about falling headfirst into quilts over the last several months, studying fabrics, construction, and textile history, and learning how quilts connect to antique clothing, regional taste, and daily life in America. Matt brings in the picking side of it too...


Episode 51 | Mary Proctor: Called to Paint
#51
03/02/2026

In January of 1994, Mary Proctor lost her grandmother, her uncle, and her aunt in a mobile home fire. The grandmother who raised her, the woman she called mama, was gone. The grief was overwhelming. For thirty days, Mary spent half of every day praying, sitting with her Bible, questioning God and asking why.

On the final day, she says a light brighter than the sun appeared, and a voice spoke from within it. She was told to paint on an old door, and that the words would be given to her. In that moment, grief turned into...


Episode 50 | Rare 1990s Folk Art Footage from Tom Wells
#50
02/16/2026

Before museums and collectors caught on, Tom Wells was documenting Southern folk artists on VHS in the early 1990s.

In this episode, Matt Ledbetter sits down with the longtime dealer to revisit those tapes and reflect on discovering artists like Z.B. Armstrong and J.T. McCord.

Tom explains how he first met these artists, how relationships developed, how work was sold, and what it looked like to build a market without the internet, price databases, or collector forums. Some of the footage captures artists actively working. The footage captures artists at work and preserves...


Episode 49 | From Football to Folk Art
#49
02/02/2026

Matt Ledbetter talks with Julian-Sherrod Summers, also known as Red Sanford, about how their shared background in football quietly ran alongside a growing interest in old objects, self-taught artists, and the stories those pieces carry.

From there, the conversation opens up into picking, collecting, valuing art, and the long road that led both of them into the folk art world.

The conversation moves naturally between football culture, folk art discovery, picking, and the shared duality of living in both physical, competitive worlds and thoughtful, creative ones. Along the way, they talk candidly about how folk...


Episode 48 | What Real Picking Looked Like Before the Internet
#48
01/19/2026

In this episode, Wade Ledbetter sits down with Matt to talk through what real picking looked like before the internet changed the landscape. Long before Marketplace listings and phone searches, picking meant driving back roads, knocking on doors, carrying cash, and trusting instinct.

Wade tells the story of calling a jug before it ever came out of the house, walking into basements unannounced, and knowing what mattered before it was labeled, cataloged, or priced. The conversation moves through door knock etiquette, cash strategy, reading people, reading places, and the difference between chasing leads and creating opportunities.

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Episode 47 | Always Buying Always Selling: Life as a Full-Time Antique Dealer with Laura Saville
#47
01/05/2026

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt Ledbetter sits down with longtime friend and full-time antique dealer Laura Saville for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about what it really means to make a living in antiques.

Laura has spends all her time buying, selling, filling booths, working shows, and constantly moving inventory. Inspired by early memories of her grandfather’s Milwaukee saloon to a career at Nordstrom that sharpened her eye for curation and merchandising, Laura explains how every chapter of her life quietly prepared her for this work.

Together, Matt and Laura talk ab...


Episode 46 | Unboxing Folk Art Pottery and Remembering Folk Artists
#46
12/22/2025

Mike Smith joins Matt in the gallery with several pieces of folk art pottery headed for the next auction, opening boxes and walking through each form as it comes out. What starts as a straightforward unboxing quickly turns into a deeper conversation about where these pieces came from, who made them, and how easily important work can be overlooked when context is lost.

Throughout the episode, Matt and Mike break down what they look for when evaluating folk art pottery, from glaze and form to surface wear and feel in the hand. They talk honestly about how...


Episode 45 | Raising Canes the Folk Art Way
#45
12/08/2025

Matt has been raised on canes since he was ten years old, and now he is passing the tradition down by raising his own kids on folk art canes too. From snake wrapped handles to fully carved masterpieces, he walks through some of the best walking sticks in the collection and ends by seeing if Kai can spot the most valuable cane in the room.

Throughout the episode he breaks down the difference between a simple carved handle and a true tip to top cane, why certain carvings reveal themselves only under good light, and how collectors...


Episode 44 | Secrets from Alamance County and the Pick of a Lifetime
#44
11/24/2025

Matt sits down with his dad, the infamous Wade Ledbetter, inside the auction gallery for a story Wade admits might be risky to even share. What starts as a quiet memory from rural Alamance County quickly turns into a mystery about a ten foot clock, a fifty thousand dollar offer from Henry Ford’s museum team, and a farmhouse fire that erased everything. Wade takes Matt back to the days when he delivered milk to the Krauss family and explains why the story of that clock stayed with him for more than fifty years.

That secret leads Ma...


Episode 43 | Liberty Antiques Recap: Pottery, Paintings, and a Benny Carter Birdhouse
#43
11/10/2025

Matt and Kyle sit down after two full days of picking at the Liberty Antiques Festival in Liberty, North Carolina. Surrounded by their finds, they go through the haul piece by piece, from rare signed North Carolina pottery and 19th-century paintings to a pristine Benny Carter saw.

The conversation dives into the stories behind the buys, the lessons learned from years on the road, and the excitement that comes with finding something special in a sea of booths. From showcase surprises to pottery discoveries, this episode captures the rhythm and reward of a good show weekend.

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Episode 42 | From the Brewery to the Gallery: Inside Red Oak’s Griffith Museum
#42
10/27/2025

Matt and Sully sit down inside the Griffith Fine Art Museum at Red Oak Brewery to explore where fine art and folk art meet. Surrounded by a collection of American Impressionist paintings from the late 1800s, they talk about the crossover between high-end galleries and the handmade traditions that define Southern craftsmanship. What starts as a laid-back conversation over a Hummingbird Golden Lager quickly turns into a mix of history, humor, and collecting philosophy.

Matt shares stories about his early days picking with his father, his time at auctioneering school, and how the lessons of the field...


Episode 41 | Inside the Folk Art Underground: Mike Smith on Folk Art Legends and Lost Stories
#41
10/13/2025

Matt and Mike Smith sit down inside the Griffith Fine Art Museum at Red Oak Brewery to talk about the wild early days of Southern folk art and the collectors who helped define it. What begins as a casual visit quickly turns into a deep dive into Mike’s decades-long journey from salesman to documentarian, capturing the rise of self-taught art across the Southeast.

Mike shares how he met artists like Benny Carter, James Harold Jennings, and Howard Finster, and what it was like to ride with Carter through the backroads of North Carolina with a revolver on...


Episode 40 | Kentucky Legend Carl McKenzie & The Gibsonville Hwy 64 Chair Maker Revealed
#40
09/29/2025

Matt and Kyle take a deep dive into Kentucky folk artist Carl McKenzie (1905-1998), examining his colorful cut-wood sculptures that inspired a generation of collectors. From the Daniel Boone Trading Post to Larry Hackley's legendary collection, they explore how McKenzie's simple two-by-four constructions with movable arms captured the essence of Kentucky mountain life.
The episode takes a personal turn when Matt reveals his secret identity as the "Gibsonville Highway 61 Miniature Chair Maker," showcasing 24 Willie Massey-inspired chairs he created over three months before mysteriously losing the creative drive. The conversation explores the psychological challenges of folk art creation, from...


Episode 39 | Wade Ledbetter: A Picker's Life & Salt Glaze Pottery Lesson
#39
09/15/2025

Matt sits down with his father Wade Ledbetter, the legendary picker whose exploits have become House of Folk Art folklore. From walking to school with a .22 rifle to sleeping with shotguns in dangerous hotel rooms, Wade shares raw stories from the golden age of picking when there was no internet, no cell phones, and pickers ruled the auction house circuit.

The conversation covers Wade's transition from insurance salesman to full-time picker, the electric atmosphere at John Lambert's Mebane auction house, and the legendary finds that made other pickers rich while Wade and Matt struggled. Hear about the...


Episode 38 | International Folk Art Showcase & Ancient Face Jugs
#38
09/01/2025

Matt and Sully kick off with some international flair as Sully shares his folk art discoveries from Poland and Denmark – including a mysterious pottery piece that might be 200 years old and a painting on board he snagged for five bucks in Copenhagen. 
The conversation flows from European finds to the economics of American pottery, exploring how glass factories nearly killed traditional potters until they pivoted to decorative and tourist pieces. Matt breaks down the Burlon Craig timeline and explains why Reinhart family face jugs are rarer than Edgefield pottery, while a surprise call from Matt's dad confirms a $5,500 Rei...


Episode 37 | Inside Matt's Home Gallery & The Real Cost of Building a Folk Art Collection
#37
08/18/2025

Matt opens his doors to the official House of Folk Art gallery – a sanctioned room in his Gibson­ville home where guests drink wine, discuss eyeball jugs, and sleep surrounded by Benny Carter cityscapes. What started as empty walls has become a rotating exhibition that changes every two years, filled with the kind of obtainable art that proves you don't need millionaire money to live with authentic folk art.
This episode is pure education for new collectors: Matt breaks down how he built this collection piece by piece, why he can't afford Bill Traylor but settles happily for Mar...


Episode 36 | The Dale Jr of Folk Art: Checkered Flags & Hidden Gems
#36
08/04/2025

Matt opens the show in Dale Earnhardt Sr.’s iconic black-and-red jersey while Sully sports Dale Jr. The playful NASCAR nod lasts only long enough for a quick laugh before they park the racing talk and steer straight into folk-art territory.

Their first stop is Eden, North Carolina, where Carrie Graves covered scrap paper with bright marker sketches for decades and her daughter Ellen Martin coaxed lions and angels from borrowed-kiln clay. Next they spotlight Benny Carter, a former metalworker whose twenty-thousand miniature cityscapes practically hum with yellow-cab traffic. The tour wraps with a bottle-cap snake, a sp...


Episode 35 | The Pickers’ Mindset: From $10 Bets to Six-Figure Finds
#35
07/21/2025

If you’ve ever wondered how an old jar of quarters, a dusty license plate, or a mystery canvas can bankroll a folk-art empire, this hour is your crash course. Matt Ledbetter and Sully leave the gallery table behind and unpack the method behind the madness of picking...long drives, door knocks, and gut checks that separate a lucky flea-market haul from a life-changing score. They relive two-week marathons with $12,000 in road cash, explain why “brown is down” furniture still sells if you know the buyer, and debate the ethics of flipping a $10 painting for $29,000. Matt revisits a $10 North Caroli...


Episode 34 | Inside the Auction House: Matt & Sully’s Folk Art Finds
#34
07/07/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt and Sully take on a challenge inside the gallery: pick 5 folk art pieces each and analyze them for viewers. But this isn’t just show and tell. You’ll get insight into how both beginners and experienced collectors weigh a piece’s condition, story, value, and craftsmanship. From outsider legends to emerging names, the episode explores what makes folk art collectible and how to spot something special.

Chapters:
00:00 – 00:02:02 | Cold Open & Gallery Challenge
Matt and Sully set the scene, heading into the gallery to find five standout pieces e...


Episode 33 | Back at the Auction House: Baskets, Jugs & Big Surprises
#33
06/23/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt and Kyle are back at the Folk Art Auction House in Gibsonville, sifting through the spring haul from shows across North Carolina and Virginia. With the van finally unloaded and the finds laid out, they talk through what’s going to auction, what might stay in the collection, and what stories came with each piece.

From a $70 New Jersey jug now soaring past $1,200, to a vividly painted mystery basket that might just be Native American, the episode dives deep into the value, and vulnerability, of picking. Matt reflects on...


Episode 32 | Van‐Side Collector’s Guide to Fishersville
#32
06/09/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt, Kyle, and Sully squeeze into the back of the van just as the Fishersville Antique Expo winds down, surrounded by every treasure they scored that weekend. What starts with Matt flipping through his “Little by Little” reference book quickly becomes an all-out field lesson in Americana and folk art. From a perfectly aged 1860 Piedmont salt-glazed jug and Sully’s first walking stick—handed down by Matt himself—to Kyle’s on-camera $400 pie safe purchase from Wade, they unpack each piece with contagious enthusiasm. You’ll learn how to read stamps on a craned ju...


Episode 31 | The Best Basket You’ll Ever See
#31
05/26/2025

Chapters
00:00 – Intro
00:14 – Baskets 101: The Feel Test
01:01 – Machine Cuts vs. Drawing Knife Splits
03:18 – Why Smaller Baskets Matter
04:16 – The Basket That Makes You Say Oh
05:11 – Dating Old Baskets by Feel and Wear
07:50 – How to Know When Not to Pass It Up
15:09 – The Best Basket You’ll Ever See
18:10 – A Known Maker vs Unknown Maker
19:15 – Who Got You Into Baskets?
23:05 – Sully Joins to Talk About Wild Marvin Bailey Jugs
28:20 – Lanier Meaders and the Rock Teeth Secret
36:43 – Billy Ray Hussey’s Rare Medusa Lion
38:16 – Why the Buyer Might Be More Rare Than the Basket
42...


Episode 30 | The Ones That Got Away: Wade Ledbetter’s Wildest Picks
#30
05/12/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Wade Ledbetter returns to share more stories from his life as a full-time antique picker. A life spent on back roads, knocking on doors, and hauling everything from sugar chests to human skulls. Told to his son Matt, the host of House of Folk Art, this episode winds through missed deals, strange finds, and wild encounters in small towns across Virginia and North Carolina.

Wade’s storytelling hits full stride as he recalls a legendary missed opportunity involving not one but three Stanley Steamer cars and a building full of...


Episode 29 | Face Jugs and Folk Legends: Inside the Catawba Valley Pottery Festival
#29
04/28/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, Matt Ledbetter takes listeners deep inside the Catawba Valley Pottery Festival. One of the South’s most important gatherings for traditional folk pottery. Held each spring in Hickory, NC, the festival brings together potters, collectors, and first-time admirers from across the country. 

Featured Guests:
Steve Abee | Stacy Lambert | Michael Gates
LA Ryan | Dr. Allen Huffman

🎧 CHAPTERS
00:00 – Welcome to the Festival
04:30 – Steve Abee on Clay, Community, and Tradition
10:10 – Early Bird Setup and Pottery Prep
15:05 – Stacy Lambert on Pop Culture and James Earl Jones
20:40...


Episode 28 | Cher Shaffer Returns: Visionary Painting, Folk Art, and the Day the Mountains Cried
#28
04/14/2025

In this episode of House of Folk Art, host Matt Ledbetter welcomes back Cher Shaffer, a self-taught folk artist whose work captures heritage, instinct, and raw emotion. Raised in Georgia with Cherokee and Melungeon roots, Cher has spent over 55 years creating visionary paintings, pit-fired pottery, sculptural dolls, and face jugs, each infused with personal and cultural storytelling.

This time, Cher shares the deeper meanings behind her most personal pieces, the pushback she faced from the art world, and her latest body of work: The Day the Mountains Cried, a series inspired by the devastating Halloween storm in...