SALLT Leadership Podcast

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Real people, real conversations, and a shared mission to lead and love our cities well. Cities don’t change because of one person—they change when everyone steps in to lead. In your home, your work, your community, your city—you have influence. This podcast is here to fuel that calling.

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Welcome to the SALLT Leadership Podcast. Real people, real conversations, and a shared mission to lead and love our cities well. Cities don't change because of one person. They change when everyone steps in to lead. In your home, in your work, in your community, and in your city, you have influence. And this podcast is here to fuel that calling.

In Part 1 of this conversation between Wes Lane and Tim McCoy, Tim  shares an inspirational story about his journey to law school that will inspire us all to pursue the promise God gives you, e...


GOD STILL SPEAKS: What Season 1 Taught us About Hearing God
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08/19/2026

Season 1 is in the books, and before Season 2 kicks off in October, we're going back through everything our guests said on the questions that mattered most. First up: Hearing God. Not the theory of it. The practice. What it actually sounds like on a Tuesday, in a squad car, in the middle of a decision you can't undo. Our guests this season came at it from wildly different places; policing, business, ministry, city-level problem solving; and landed in a strikingly similar spot: God still speaks, most of us have never learned to listen, and the ones who hear him...


Jantzen Miller: Part 2 - Freedom, Prayer and Trusting God
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07/07/2026

Our previous episode with Jantzen Miller was so powerful, we had to release a Part 2! This conversation goes deep into prayer, trusting God and what that looks like for us in our areas of influence in the marketplace.

If you missed Part 1, follow the link to LISTEN or WATCH


Gary Brooks: What Is Your First National Center?
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06/09/2026

In this episode, Gary Brooks shares what the Lord has taught him through his journey as a successful real estate developer, and specifically, the renovation of the First National Center in Oklahoma City. Renovating the First National Center was a presumably, impossible project that Gary shares was a prop for what the Lord wanted to do in him, more than it was about the building itself. We get to listen in and learn all the rich nuggets Gary learned, like living with holy expectation and the importance of stewarding God's spoken Word well. Gary also shares that the First...


Jamie and Donna Winship: Problem Solving God's Way
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05/12/2026

What if the problems we face aren't meant to be solved through formulas and strategies, but through intimate conversation with God? This conversation challenges us to reconsider how we approach problem-solving in our daily lives. We discover that true innovation begins not with action, but with contemplation, asking God questions and waiting for His answers. 

 

Click here to order Jamie's book, War of the Worldviews


Rennie Cook: How to Lead from your Identity
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04/14/2026

In a world drowning in information but starving for transformation, leaders face a critical question: Who am I?

The answer to this question shapes everything...how you lead, how you rest, how you navigate the inevitable challenges of leadership, and ultimately, how you experience the presence of God in your daily life.

 

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Gallup Research

Gallup Article

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Jantzen Miller: How to Hear God's Voice - Part 1
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03/11/2026

This conversation with Jantzen Miller, takes us on a powerful journey of discovering how to truly hear God's voice in our everyday lives. We're reminded that hearing from God isn't reserved for spiritual giants, it's a muscle we all can develop through practice, patience, and humility. Through Jantzen's stories, we also learn what applying what God says to us looks like in our personal lives and in our work lives.

 

Resources Mentioned:

4 Keys to Hearing God's Voice

 


Wes Lane: Discovering God's Purpose and Hearing His Voice - Part 2
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02/10/2026

Part 2 of our conversation with Wes Lane explored the journey of discovering and living out God's purpose for our lives. We dive into the importance of hearing God's voice, stepping into our assignments with courage, and understanding that our identity is rooted in Christ—not in what we do. The discussion reminded us that God leads us progressively, layer by layer, and that He gives grace for the pace in the place He calls us to. Whether you're in a season of building something new or watching the "cloud lift" as God redirects your path, this message offers encouragement to...


John-Mark Hart: Human Flourishing and Spiritual Formation
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01/13/2026

Want to dive deeper into these topics in more? Below are John-Mark's books he is currently reading:

The Desire of the Nations: Rediscovering the Roots of Political Theology (click for Amazon link)

The Home of God (Theology for the Life of the World): A Brief Story of Everything (click for Amazon link)

 

 


Marnie Taylor: The Impact of Non-Profits
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12/09/2025

In every thriving city, there's an invisible network of compassion, dedication, and transformative work happening behind the scenes. It's not always glamorous, and it rarely makes headlines, but it's the heartbeat of community transformation, the non-profit sector. Join in on this conversation with Marnie Taylor as we dive deep into the impact of this sector on our lives and our city.


Scotia Moore: Lead with Hospitality
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11/11/2025

What if the most powerful weapon we have for leadership and city transformation isn't found in boardrooms or pulpit platforms, but around our dinner tables? Join us in this conversation with Scotia Moore, as she challenges us to reconsider hospitality not as entertaining or impressing others, but as a form of spiritual warfare, a radical act of generosity that tears down walls and builds bridges across divides. It is not about perfect homes or gourmet meals, it's about creating space where people encounter the presence of God through our willingness to be vulnerable, to step into discomfort, and to practice...


Scotia Moore: Lead with Hospitality
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11/11/2025

What if the most powerful weapon we have for leadership and city transformation isn't found in boardrooms or pulpit platforms, but around our dinner tables? Join us in this conversation with Scotia Moore, as she challenges us to reconsider hospitality not as entertaining or impressing others, but as a form of spiritual warfare, a radical act of generosity that tears down walls and builds bridges across divides. It is not about perfect homes or gourmet meals, it's about creating space where people encounter the presence of God through our willingness to be vulnerable, to step into discomfort, and to practice...


Clarence Hill: City Transformation through Unity and Leadership
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10/14/2025

In this episode, we had the privilege of hearing from Dr. Clarence Hill Jr., founder of the Stronger Together movement. His message on city transformation and leadership was both inspiring and challenging.

Dr. Hill explored the concept of city transformation through the lens of kingdom culture, emphasizing four key pillars: prayer, love, unity, and celebration. He stressed the importance of unity among believers and the need for intentional leadership in bringing about positive change in our communities. This episode highlighted the significance of personal sacrifice, forgiveness, and maintaining healthy spiritual rhythms in our pursuit of God's vision...


Wes Lane: Discovering God's Purpose and Hearing His Voice
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09/09/2025

In this powerful exploration of divine purpose, we're reminded that God's plan for our lives is knowable and accessible. The key message is that by earnestly seeking God, we can uncover our unique mission. This echoes Jeremiah 29:13, where God promises, 'You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.' We're challenged to pay attention to the passions and burdens God places on our hearts, as these often point to our divine calling. The journey of discovering God's purpose is portrayed not as a one-time event, but as an evolving process of deepening...


Hearing God's Voice
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08/24/2022

Episode 9 Show Notes:

Hearing God’s Voice

 “Before we were even born, he gave us our destiny; that we would fulfill the plan of God who always accomplishes every purpose and plan in his heart.” - Ephesians 1:11 TPT

“For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.” - Romans 8:14

“The sheep that are My own hear and  are listening to My voice; and I know them, and they follow Me.” – Jesus, John 10:27 (AMPC)

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handiwork.”...


What Holds You Back from Being the Leader God Calls You to Be? Could it Be Unforgiveness?
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08/10/2022

Episode 8 Show Notes

What Holds You Back From Being The Leader God Calls You To Be? Could It Be Unforgiveness?

 “Before we were even born, he gave us our destiny; that we would fulfill the plan of God who always accomplishes every purpose and plan in his heart.” - Ephesians 1:11 TPT

“Righteousness and Justice are the foundation of Your throne…” - Psalm 89:14`

“Blessed are the peacemakers…” - Matthew 5:9

“So if you are presenting a sacrifice at the altar in the Temple and you suddenly remember that someone has something against you, leave y...


How to Not Let Failure Defeat You!
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07/27/2022

Episode 7: How to Not Let Failure Defeat You!

“Each time he said, ‘My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.’ So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me. That’s why I take pleasure in my weaknesses, and in the insults, hardships, persecutions, and troubles that I suffer for Christ. For when I am weak, then I am strong.” - 2 Cor. 12:9-10 NLT

“My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your fait...


What is the Wall in Front of Your House?
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07/13/2022

Episode 6 Show Notes

What is the Wall in Front of Your House?

“Above the Horse Gate, the priests made repairs, each in front of his own house. Next to them, Zadok son of Immer made repairs opposite his house. Next to him, Shemaiah son of Shekaniah, the guard at the East Gate, made repairs. Next to him, Hananiah son of Shelemiah, and Hanun, the sixth son of Zalaph, repaired another section. Next to them, Meshullam son of Berekiah made repairs opposite his living quarters.” - Nehemiah 3:28-30

Key Takeaways:

The currency of t...


What it Means to be a Change Agent to Culture
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06/29/2022

Episode 5 Show Notes

“What it Means to be a Change Agent to Culture”

 “Before we were even born, he gave us our destiny; that we would fulfill the plan of God who always accomplishes every purpose and plan in his heart.” - Ephesians 1:11 TPT

“Culture is the ‘artificial, secondary environment’ which man superimposes on the natural. It comprises language, habits, ideas, beliefs, customs, social organization, inherited artifacts, technical processes, and values.” – Richard Neibuhr

Key Takeaways:

The story of William Wilberforce. 

Three things you should know about Wilberforce and his friends

T...


Kingdom Leadership – It’s Not What You Think
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06/15/2022

Episode 4 Show Notes

Don’t Call Yourself a Leader? Listen to This

 “Before we were even born, he gave us our destiny; that we would fulfill the plan of God who always accomplishes every purpose and plan in his heart.” Ephesians 1:11 TPT

“From one man, Adam, he made every man and woman and every race of humanity, and he spread us over all the earth. He sets the boundaries of people and nations, determining their appointed times in history.” Acts 17:26 (TPT)

“For we are God’s [own] handiwork, recreated in Christ Jesus, [born an...


The Power of God
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06/01/2022

Episode 3 Show Notes – The Power of God

 

“Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With man this is impossible, but with God all things are

possible.’” - Matthew 19:26

 

“You do not have because you do not ask God.” – James 4:2

 

“For I the Lord, do not change.” - Malachi 3:6

 

“For the eyes of the Lord search to and fro throughout the earth that he might strongly support

those whose hearts are completely his.” - I Chronicles 16:9

 

“What you think about God is the most...


How to Discern Your Purpose
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05/17/2022

Episode 2 Show Notes – Discerning Your Purpose

 

“Before we were even born, he gave us our destiny; that we would fulfill the plan of God who always accomplishes every purpose and plan in his heart.” - Ephesians 1:11 TPT

 

“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek...


Realizing Your Identity as a Kingdom Leader
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05/03/2022

Episode 1 Show Notes – Realizing Your Identity

Most men live lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them. – Thoreau

 

Consider the following verses and think about what God is saying about you and to you.

 

“From one man, Adam, he made every man and woman and every race of humanity, and he spread us over all the earth. He sets the boundaries of people and nations, determining their appointed times in history.” Acts 17:26 (TPT)

 

“I will give thanks to You, for I am...


SALLT Leadership Podcast Trailer
05/03/2022

The SALLT Leadership Podcast is for Christian leaders who want to live a purposeful life, grow in their faith, and maximize their abilities and influence for the Kingdom of God. Whether you’re a CEO, a creative, an educator, or a home-maker, you’ve been strategically sent to your area of influence to love God’s people and accomplish His will. In the SALLT Leadership Podcast, we’ll give you the practical tools you need to understand your unique purpose as a leader and execute God’s plan for your life. Listen to each episode as we explore how you can walk c...


Jantzen Miller - The Importance of Authenticity for Christian Leaders
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11/03/2021

Wes sat down with Jantzen Miller, a coach and business consultant for Christian entrepreneurs and SALLT's Director of Strategic Communications, to talk about why it's important to lead with authenticity. In this conversation, you'll hear Jantzen's personal story about coming to terms with her personal identity in Christ and learn some simple ways to uncover your unique strengths and gifts so you can share them with others.


Thomas Hill III - How Hope Helps Us Recover Our Lives
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10/13/2021

In this episode, Wes sits down with Thomas Hill III, the chief executive officer of Kimray, Inc about how hope can help us recover our lives when we lose our way. As the grandson of Kimray’s founder, Garman Kimmell, Thomas grew up around the family business and manages the family-owned company with a sense of stewardship and heritage. In 1948, Kimray revolutionized pressure regulation in the oil and gas industry by introducing a three-inch pilot-operated back pressure regulator. The company has since grown to be a globally-known manufacturer of a comprehensive line of reliable, smart, and inventive American-made control equipment fo...


Mike Hays - How The Hope Filled Gospel Leads To Flourishing
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09/22/2021

Mike Hays is a man filled up with purpose and hope. Listen in as he and Wes talk about the many ways God works through Mike and the church he leads. Britton Christian Church is a platform for followers of Jesus to leverage God's giftedness to serve others in their community, specifically to the youth. They are leading their community to become a place of flourishing for all.


Baruc Lara - Hope For The Emerging Leader
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09/08/2021

When people think about leaders, they often think of people who have etched their place in society over many years. Baruc Lara is an emerging leader rising up for this moment in time. He is an entrepreneur, the founder of The Gap Between Foundation, and the Author of The Incredible True Story. With plans to graduate from the University of Oklahoma in 2022, Baruc Lara is not waiting for the future to make an impact. Listen in to how a hope-filled journey has led Baruc to make an impact now.


Jeremie Kubicek - How To Make A GiANT Impact
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08/25/2021

We are back for Season 4! Today, Wes sits down with leadership expert Jeremie Kubicek, Executive Chairman of GiANT Worldwide to talk about making a GiANT impact as a kingdom leader. Jeremie is most recently the best-selling author of The 100X Leader: How to Become Someone Worth Following. To see more of how Jeremie impacts the world around him, keep reading below. • Co-author with Steve Cockram of two books: “5 Gears: How to Be Present and Productive When There is Never Enough Time”; and “5 Voices: Discover Your Voice, Build Your Team and Change Your World” • Best-selling author of “Making Your Leadership Come Alive: 7 Actio...


How Hope Leads To Flourishing
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07/21/2021

In our final episode of season 3 on Hope Leads, Wes sits down with Mart and Tyler Green to talk about what it looks like for hope-filled people can lead towards the flourishing of a city. The conversation talks about movements of unity, and the thoughtful compassion that is necessary to see to all people being loved well and cared for in a city. We will be back in August with new content for you.


Lisa Billy - The Hope Filled Journey
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07/07/2021

Wes sits down with Lisa Billy to talk about her hope filled journey. Lisa Johnson Billy is a Chickasaw-American politician who represented Oklahoma House of Representatives District 42, which includes Cleveland, Garvin, Grady and McClain Counties, from 2004 to 2016. She served as deputy whip and vice chair of the Republican Caucus. Lisa is an extremely family-oriented person and has raised her family with a rich knowledge of the Chickasaw heritage.


Brent Vawter - Healthy and Intentional Leadership
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06/23/2021

Wes sits down with Brent Vawter, Sr. Area Director of CBMC (Christian Business Men's Connection) to talk about the path of healthy and intentional leadership. Brent's role is focused on developing male leaders towards a redemptive path to shape culture at home and at work in healthy ways. As the Area Director for CBMC in Oklahoma, Brent gives strategic and operational support to the ever-growing network of Christian businessmen who are helping others find their identity in something greater than their work, while also finding greater meaning and purpose through their work. Brent creates connection-points for businessmen to find mentors...


Mo Anderson - Live Your Best Life
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06/09/2021

Wes sits down with Mo Anderson to talk about how her unique journey and the path to living and leading your best life. Nicknamed the “Velvet Hammer” for her soft and distinctly effective leadership style, Mo Anderson’s personal integrity, faith and unending drive positioned Keller Williams to become one of the most successful franchises in real estate history. Mo served as Keller Williams CEO for more than 10 years and currently serves as vice chairman of the board. A sought-after speaker and gifted writer, Mo’s recently published book, A Joy-Filled Life: Lessons from a Tenant Farmer’s Daughter…Who Became a CEO...


Jane Jayroe-Gamble - Graceful and Grace Filled
#51
05/26/2021

Wes sits down with Jane Jayroe-Gamble to talk about how hope flows from a graceful and a grace filled life. Jane is defined by grace, and carries a grace that generates hope in people's lives. Listen in for an impactful conversation to draw you closer to the heart of God, and His great plans of hope that are established in grace for your life. Jayne Anne Jayroe-Gamble is a well known broadcaster, author and public official and former American beauty queen from Laverne, Oklahoma, who was Miss Oklahoma in 1966 and Miss America in 1967. Jayroe worked as an anchor in TV...


Greg Gunn - How Hope Can Start At Home
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05/12/2021

Wes sits down with Gregg Gunn, leader of Family ID to talk about how a hope-filled family impacts future generations and your present reality. Greg and his wife, Rhonda, started in their living room with a passion to lead families toward unity. Since its inception, Family ID has established a global presence and Greg has led thousands of families to discovering their unique Core Values, Mission Statement and Vision Statement. Family ID is an independent 501 (c)(3) organization supported by individual contributions and event revenue. Family ID is passionate about leading families toward developing their strong identity and living that identity...


Stephan Moore - The Giant Impact of Hope
#49
04/28/2021

Wes sits down with Stephan Moore, Executive Director of Camp Shiloh. They walk through Stephan's continual theme of a hope filled life, and how that has led not just to overcoming things in Stephan's life, but how he also helps others overcome as well. Listen in to hear the giant impact of hope!


Chris Brewster - Hope Generating Education
#48
04/14/2021

Wes sits down with Chris Brewster, Superintendent of Santa Fe South Schools to talk about being a hope-filled educator. Chris shares his journey of life and faith, and the hope filled impact found in Santa Fe South Schools.


Erin Lewis - What's Your Brand?
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03/31/2021

Wes Lane and Taylor West sit down with SALLT alum Erin Lewis, Director of Brand Marketing for the Oklahoma City Thunder. They talk about identity, faith, and leadership through the perspective of branding and marketing. Listen in for a hope-generating conversation.


Shaina Smith - Hope Filled Singleness
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03/17/2021

On today's episode, Wes talks with Shaina Smith! The conversation is all about living a hope-filled life as a single. They walk through Shaina's journey of faith that has led her to ministry, business, missions, and more.


Keith Sinor - Passion, Plans, and Purpose
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03/03/2021

Wes sits down with Keith Sinor, the Superintendent of Tuttle Public Schools to talk about walking out with passion God's plans and purposes for your life. Wes and Keith talk about the challenges of many shifts during Covid, and also adapting to the life that comes when God interrupts our plans for His plans.