Liturgical rebels
The Liturgical Rebels podcast is for spiritual seekers who no longer feel comfortable with a traditional approach to Christian religious observances. It empowers followers of Jesus to creatively reconstruct their faith and spiritual practices. Through conversation with groundbreaking practitioners from around the world who think creatively about new approaches to spirituality, we will emphasize the sacredness of all things and uncover ways in which God speaks to us through nature and creativity, through restorative justice and environmental concern, and through the mundane and ordinary acts of daily life. This podcast is for those who don’t want to just deconstruct, but...
Episode 60 - Transforming Neighbourhoods with Tim Soerens
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In this episode, Tim Soerens and Christine Sine discuss the reimagining of church and neighborhood renewal, emphasizing the importance of community stories and needs. They explore innovative models like the Parish Collective and impact investing aimed at fostering local flourishing and spiritual renewal. Tim emphasizes the importance of inclusivity and support for marginalized groups, aiming to create multicultural communities where everyone can thrive. Christine also shares her background and recent works focused on creative spiritual practices and Celtic Christianity.
Tim Sorens advocates for a radical rethinking of church roles where the church...Episode 59 - Discovering the Beauty and Wonder of Birding with Ragan Sutterfield
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Ragan discuss the profound impact of birding on personal growth, spirituality, and ecological awareness. Ragan shares his journey into birding, the tools available for bird identification, and the lessons learned from observing birds in their natural habitats. The discussion touches on the importance of understanding migration patterns and the conservation challenges birds face in urban environments. Ragan and Christine explore the profound connections between birding, spirituality, grief, and ecological awareness. They discuss how birding can enhance our listening skills, the importance of grieving what we love, and...
Episode 58 - Peacemaking in a Violent World with Weldon Nisly
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In this conversation, Weldon Nisly shares his extensive journey in ministry and peacemaking, highlighting the importance of liturgy in shaping community identity. He discusses his recent experiences in Iraq and Kurdistan with Community Peacemaker Teams, emphasizing the need for non-violence training and the significance of personal connections in peacemaking efforts. In this conversation, Weldon Nisly shares his experiences and insights from working in conflict zones, particularly in Kurdish regions and Palestine. He discusses the ongoing quest for peace, the importance of community engagement, and the challenges faced by those living under oppression. The...
Episode 57 - Visiting the Cofan Nation in Ecuador with Emmy and Federico Borman
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In this conversation Christine speaks to Emmy and Frederico Borman about their work in the Ecuadorian rainforest. They help run the Cofan Survival Fund which is dedicated to the survival of the Cofán indigenous culture and its Amazonian rain forest environment. They discuss comparative spirituality, indigenous values, and the vital necessity for all of us that the Amazonian rainforest survive and thrive. Their work gives hope in an often overwhelming world.
Key Points
Rainforest preservation is not just for helping locals, but, is necessary for all of u...Episode 56 - What is a Liturgical Rebel? with Christine Sine
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In this conversation, Christine Sine explores the concept of being a liturgical rebel, emphasizing the importance of spiritual seeking, the need for diverse spiritual practices, and the role of doubt in faith. She discusses how liturgical rebels challenge traditional church norms and seek to create beauty and wholeness in the world through various forms of art and community engagement. Christine encourages listeners to embrace their unique spiritual journeys and to find practices that resonate with their experiences.
Takeaways
A liturgical rebel is someone who seeks spiritual growth outside...Episode 55 - Out of the Box with Kate Caroe
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In this conversation with Christine, Kate Caroe shares her innovative approach to storytelling, education, and community building through her project Out of the Box. Discover how her methods foster wonder, wisdom, and wellbeing across diverse settings, from schools to care homes, and learn practical ways to incorporate storytelling and reflective practices into your own work.
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Storytelling is a tool for learning and community buildingEmotional connection in stories is key to learningBuilding atmosphere and trust provides space for deep reflectionSpiritual and community engagement require innovative approachesKate...
Episode 54 - Exploring Indigenous Wisdom with Ray Minniecon
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Christine's interview with Ray Minniecon explores Indigenous heritage, environmental stewardship, and advocacy for Indigenous rights globally. It highlights the importance of land, culture, and spiritual perspectives in addressing climate change and social justice.
Key topics
Indigenous heritage and advocacyEnvironmental stewardship and land rightsThe impact of colonization and policies like the Stolen GenerationsThe need for the UN to exist as a resource for indigenous peoplesThe roles and responsibilities, past and future, of the ChurchRay Minniecon is an Aboriginal pastor with roots in the Kabikabi and Gurang-Gurang tribes...
Episode 53 - April Yamasaki and Hope Beyond Our Sorrows
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In this insightful interview, April Yamasaki shares her insights into grief, her biblical reflections on loss, and spiritual practices for healing and hope. She and Christine discuss her books, including 'Hope Beyond Our Sorrows' and 'Sacred Pauses,' which offer valuable tools for navigating life's challenges. April explains how the human journey through grief is similar whether it is the traumatic loss of a spouse, loss of a job, or even loss of a dream.
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Grief and healing processBiblical stories of Naomi, Ruth, ElijahSpiritual practices for...Episode 52 - Wes & Stephanie Vander Lugt on Earthkeepers
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In this conversation, originally podcast on Earthkeepers, Christine's friends Forrest Inslee and James Amadon engage with Wes and Stephanie Vander Lugt, co-founders of Kinship Plot, an intentional community in Charlotte, North Carolina. They discuss the vision behind Kinship Plot, which focuses on cultivating resonant relationships with each other, the land, and with Spirit. The conversation explores the community's practices, challenges, and the importance of contemplative action and liberatory welcome. The founders share stories of community engagement, the joy of working together, and the deep longing for belonging and rootedness in a fast-paced world...
Episode 51 - Podcasting with Melissa Kelly
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In this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Melissa Kelly reflect on their journey of creating a podcast over the past two years. They discuss the challenges and learning experiences they've encountered, the connections they've made with guests from around the world, and the importance of exploring diverse perspectives on faith and spirituality. The conversation also touches on the need to dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery, the role of art in expressing faith, and the exploration of innovative church models that foster community engagement.
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Podcasting has been a...Episode 50 - Raising Kids Who Care with Susy Lee
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In this engaging conversation, Christine Sine interviews Susy Lee whose eclectic background, experiences, and eventual embrace of family life led her to write her book, "Raising Kids Who Care." The book aims to foster meaningful conversations within families about important social issues, encouraging children to be active participants in the world rather than passive observers. Susy emphasizes the importance of community living and how it enriches relationships, particularly for men who often struggle with social connections post-retirement. 'Raising Kids Who Care' is designed to facilitate conversations about character, consumerism, and the impact of...
Episode 49 - Give Me a Word with Christine Valters-Paintner
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In this enlightening conversation, Christine Valters-Paintner shares her insights on the contemplative practices that foster spiritual growth and creativity with Christine Sine. She discusses her book 'Give Me a Word', which encourages individuals to seek a guiding word for the year, drawing from the rich traditions of monasticism and the expressive arts. Christine emphasizes the importance of listening with the heart, the significance of doorways as symbols of transition, and the transformative power of creative practices. The discussion also touches on the communal aspect of personal growth and how the insights gained can...
Goodbye to 2025 and Welcome to 2026 with Christine and Tom Sine
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Christine and Tom Sine reflect together on lessons from the past and themes in their work that help us look to the future. Christians and churches need to get out in front of this changing world and help shape the world Christ envisioned. Christ is calling us to a world of meaning and meaningful living beyond the current consumer culture.Â
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Episode 47 - Advent Down Under with Mark Pierson
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Mark Pierson discuss the unique aspects of Advent and Christmas worship in the Southern Hemisphere, particularly in New Zealand. They explore the challenges and creative approaches to integrating local culture and indigenous practices into the liturgical calendar. Mark shares insights on how to make Advent a meaningful and reflective season, emphasizing the importance of community and creativity in worship. They also recommend resources for enhancing the Advent experience and reflect on the deeper meanings of the season.
Takeaways
Mark describes himself as...Episode 46 - First Nations Perspective on Advent with Terry Wildman
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In this conversation, Terry Wildman shares his journey as a Native American leader and translator of the First Nations New Testament. He and Christine discuss the importance of language and culture in understanding faith, the process of translating biblical texts to resonate with Native peoples, and the significance of storytelling in conveying spiritual truths. Wildman emphasizes the need for cultural sensitivity in language, particularly in translating terms like 'church' to better reflect Native values and experiences. He also introduces his Christmas book, which started as part of the First Nations New Testament. Its...
Episode 45 - Advent in Palestine with Kelley Nikondeha
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Kelley Nikondeha explore the intersections of liberation theology, the role of women in faith, and the realities of the Advent season. They discuss the importance of understanding the historical and cultural context of biblical narratives, particularly focusing on the figure of Mary and the significance of community and hospitality in the birth of Jesus. The conversation emphasizes the need to confront trauma and suffering in order to cultivate genuine hope and transformation in our lives and communities.
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Liberation theology is deeply...Episode 44 - Ruth Harvey: Advent with the Iona Community
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Ruth Harvey and Christine Sine explore the relationship between work and worship, emphasizing how skilled laborers can contribute to spiritual leadership. Ruth highlights the importance of a rhythm of daily prayer and the ethical use of time and resources within a community, as well as a commitment to justice and integrity. She discusses her formative faith experiences and her long history with Iona - which goes back to childhood. Finally they reflect on Celtic Saints and the beauty and depth of Celtic Advent - a 40 day tradition parallel to Lent.
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Episode 43 - Exploring the Northumbria Community with Roy Searle
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In this first episode in a series preparing for Celtic Advent, Roy Searle joins Christine to discuss his own spiritual journey, Celtic Spirituality and the Northumbria Community. Roy moved from a happy, un-churched childhood to an adulthood influenced by friends and mentors from a variety of Christian traditions. He himself has led a number of different Christian churches and communities, including the Northumbria Community, a geographically diverse community of believers. Christine and Roy explore the particular blessings of Celtic Spirituality and discuss ways of being and doing Church.Â
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Episode 42 - Exploring Creation Care with Ben Lowe of A Rocha
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In this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Ben Lowe, exploring his multicultural background, faith journey, and deep connection to creation. They discuss the importance of environmental stewardship within Christian theology, the blind spots often present in traditional teachings, and the growing engagement of Christians in environmental issues. They discuss the theological perspectives that inform Christian attitudes towards creation care, the impact of political identity on environmental attitudes, and the importance of education and connection to nature in fostering a love for God's creation. Lowe shares insights about A Rocha's mission and various initiatives aimed...
Episode 41 - Brian McLaren: The Last Voyage
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Brian McLaren discusses his journey into writing science fiction with Christine Sine as they discuss his latest book, The Last Voyage. He was inspired by the socio-political climate and his Christian faith. They explore the prophetic nature of sci-fi, the importance of community and diversity, and the transformative power of conflict. McLaren emphasizes the need for imagination in church work and in addressing contemporary challenges and rethinking leadership within a collaborative framework. The discussion also touches on environmental concerns and the role of storytelling in shaping a better future.
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Episode 40 - Mark Wallace: When God Was A Bird
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Mark Wallace explore the intersection of faith, ecology, and the divine. Mark shares his journey from a traditional evangelical background to a deeper understanding of the relationship between religion and the natural world. They discuss the concept of the creatureliness of God, emphasizing how God is embodied and represented in nature and the implications of environmental destruction on spirituality. The conversation also highlights the importance of figures like John Muir in bridging faith and nature, and the need for a spiritual reconnection to the earth in the...
Episode 39 - Exploring Innovative Mission & Community with Ash Barker
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In this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Ash Barker about his journey with Urban Neighbours of Hope, exploring themes of community development, cultural transitions, and the importance of empowering local talent. They discuss the challenges and rewards of working in diverse environments, the impact of family dynamics on community work, and the significance of participatory church models. Ash shares inspiring stories, including that of Poo, a local chef who transformed her life through community support. The conversation also touches on the role of spiritual practices, the challenges of chronic illness, and the power of...
Episode 38 - Exploring Faith, Activism, & Eccentricity with Mike Frost
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In this conversation with Christine, Mike Frost shares his journey from a conventional upbringing to becoming an advocate for social justice and a voice in the church. He discusses the importance of understanding the intersection of faith and activism, the role of Australians in global conversations, and the impact of his work, particularly the book 'The Shaping of Things to Come'. Mike emphasizes the need for the church to embrace eccentricity and adapt its mission to the context of modern society, drawing on historical examples of transformative figures like Alice Sealy Harris.
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and John van de Laar explore John's journey of faith, identity, and the transformative power of liturgy. They discuss the challenges of navigating faith as an autistic individual, the importance of engaging with liturgy in a meaningful way, and the reinterpretation of the Book of Revelation in contemporary contexts. John's experiences highlight the intersection of personal faith, community, and the evolving understanding of spirituality.
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Liturgy plays a crucial role in personal transformation.Liturgy should engage all senses.Revelation can be understood as...Episode 36 - Alan Roxburgh and Navigating the Unravelling of Modernity
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In this conversation with Christine, Alan Roxburgh shares his transformative journey of faith, beginning from his working-class roots in Liverpool to his current life in Canada. He discusses the evolution of missional living, emphasizing the importance of relationality and community over traditional church practices. Alan highlights the need for churches to shift their focus from programs to genuine relationships, addressing the loneliness and isolation prevalent in modern society. He advocates for simple, everyday practices that foster connection with God and others, while navigating the complexities of a changing world.
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Episode 35 - Rachel Jordan the Coral Nerd
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Rachel G. Jordan explore the intersection of marine biology, faith, and environmental conservation. They discuss personal journeys into marine science, the challenges faced by women in the field, and the importance of biodiversity in ecosystems. The conversation also highlights the threats to coral reefs and practical steps individuals can take to contribute to conservation efforts, emphasizing the role of faith in understanding and responding to environmental issues.
Takeaways
Rachel's journey into marine biology was inspired by childhood experiences in tide pools.The...Episode 34 - Church of the Wild with Victoria Loorz
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Victoria Loorz explore the intersection of faith and ecology, discussing Victoria's journey from a corporate career to becoming a leader in the Wild Church movement. They delve into the importance of connecting spirituality with nature, the emergence of the Wild Church Network, and the significance of sacred conversations with the natural world. Victoria shares insights from her work with the Seminary of the Wild, emphasizing the need for intentional practices to foster a deeper relationship with the earth and each other. This conversation explores the deep connections...
Episode 33 - Greening Faith at Circlewood with James Amadon
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and her husband, Tom Sine, interview James Amadon about the evolution of Circlewood, an ecological ministry on Camano Island, and the journey that led James to take on leadership. They explore the integration of ecology and faith, the history of the land, and the vision for future development, including educational programs and community partnerships. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of hope and the need for new paradigms in pastoral leadership to address ecological challenges.
Takeaways
A new paradigm of pastoral leadership is needed...Episode 32 - Exploring Contemplation as Mission with Ian Mobsby
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In this conversation, Ian Mobsby shares his transformative journey from a liberal atheist background to embracing the Christian faith. He discusses his involvement in alternative worship and missional communities, emphasizing the importance of building relationships and fostering spiritual journeys. The conversation delves into the rise of contemplative spirituality, highlighting its appeal to both churchgoers and those outside the faith. Ian presents a contemplative approach to mission, focusing on God's work of restoration rather than human manipulation. The cyclical nature of spiritual growth and the transformative power of the contemplative tradition in Christianity is...
Episode 31 - Cosmic Christ, Concrete Jesus with Kevin Sweeney
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In this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Kevin Sweeney shares his transformative journey from a conservative Christian background to a more progressive and radical perspective. He discusses the significance of the Black prophetic tradition in shaping his faith and the importance of understanding the Cosmic Christ as a universal force. The conversation also delves into the role of the Concrete Jesus in calling believers to action and the limitations of traditional creeds in addressing love, justice, and liberation. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Kevin explore the significance of embodiment in faith...
Episode 30 - Caring for the Earth with Ruth Valerio
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Forrest Inslee engage with Ruth Valerio, exploring her journey into Earth care and the integration of faith with environmentalism. Ruth shares her personal experiences and theological insights, emphasizing the interconnectedness of social justice and environmental issues. The discussion highlights the importance of simplicity in living, the role of the church in advocating for Earth care, and the need for individual action in addressing the climate crisis.
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Ruth's journey into Earth care began with a focus on poverty and social justice.A...Episode 29 - Wealth, Poverty and the Mission of the Church with Al Tizon
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In this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Al Tizon explore the complexities of identity, faith, and social justice. Al shares his experiences as a third culture kid and his transformative journey back to the Philippines as a missionary. They discuss the challenges of integrating theology with activism, the impact of classism, and the importance of solidarity with the marginalized. Al introduces six movements that can help individuals and communities live out the gospel in practical ways, emphasizing the need to confront comfort and embrace a life of service. The conversation concludes with reflections...
Episode 28- Embracing Peace & Justice with Ruth Padilla DeBorst
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In this conversation, Christine Sine and Ruth discuss the intersection of theology, gender, and social justice. Ruth shares her personal history growing up in Argentina during a military dictatorship, which shaped her passion for peace and justice. They explore the challenges faced by women in theology, the importance of community living, and the role of environmental stewardship. The conversation also touches on the impact of political decisions on migration and refugee support, and concludes with a discussion on maintaining hope in chaotic times.
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Ruth's personal history in...Episode 27 - Bake and Pray with Kendall Vanderslice
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In this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Kendall Vanderslice explore the spiritual significance of bread making, discussing its biblical roots, the art of baking as a form of prayer, and the importance of community and tradition in the practice. They delve into the liturgical aspects of bread, seasonal recipes, and how bread making can be a meaningful Lenten practice. The discussion also touches on the science of sourdough, its digestibility, and the rich history behind traditional breads like hot cross buns, emphasizing the transformative power of incorporating bread making into our busy lives.<...
Episode 26 - Fair Trade Gold with Greg Valerio
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In this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Christine Sine interviews Greg Valerio, a pioneer in the fair trade jewelry movement. Valerio shares his unexpected journey into the world of fair trade gold, discussing the challenges and dangers he has faced while advocating for ethical practices in the jewelry industry. He emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the role of faith in driving social justice initiatives. The conversation also touches on the recognition Valerio has received for his work and the ongoing need for transparency and justice in the mining sector. In...
Episode 25 - Reconstructing Faith with Alan Hirsch
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Christine Sine and Alan Hirsch discuss their long-standing friendship, Alan's multicultural background, and the impact of his experiences in apartheid South Africa on his worldview and faith. They explore Alan's spiritual transformation, his journey into writing, and the significance of his influential works, particularly in the context of the church's current challenges. In this conversation, Alan Hirsch and Christine Sine explore the centrality of Jesus in the church, the importance of living out Jesus' teachings, and the challenges faced by modern Christianity. They discuss the need for a reconstructive pathway in faith, emphasizing...
Episode 24 - Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery with Sarah Augustine
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Christine Sine and Sarah Augustine delve into the Doctrine of Discovery, its historical implications for Indigenous peoples, and the ongoing impact of colonial policies, particularly the ramifications of boarding schools. They discuss the deep-rooted effects of child removal and cultural erasure, while also exploring the intersection of faith and social justice. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Sarah Augustine explore the devastating impact of the damming of Celilo Falls on local Indigenous culture, and the need for a shift from charity to repair in supporting Indigenous communities. They discuss the importance of land...
Episode 23 - An Indigenous Perspective with Randy Woodley
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In this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Randy Woodley shares his diverse life journey, rooted in his Native American heritage and shaped by his experiences in Western Christianity. He discusses the challenges and insights gained from his faith journey, emphasizing the importance of Indigenous values and the concept of Eloheh, which represents living in harmony. Woodley also reflects on his book, 'Shalom and the Community of Creation,' exploring the values that promote a harmonious existence within communities and the natural world. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Randy Woodley delve into...
Episode 22 - Beyond Liturgy with Danae Ashley
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In this engaging conversation, Christine Sine interviews Rev. Danae Ashley, an Episcopal priest and psychotherapist, exploring her journey of faith, the significance of liturgy, and the role of rituals in therapy, particularly in the context of fertility struggles and liminal times. Rev. Ashley shares her unique perspective on how liturgy shapes personal faith and community, and how rituals can help individuals navigate complex emotional experiences. In this conversation, Rev. Danae Ashley shares her insights on healing through personal rituals, the importance of community engagement, and the significance of Hildegard von Bingen's legacy. The...
Episode 21 - A Year in Review with Forrest Inslee
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It’s time to wind up Liturgical Rebels for the year. With the approach of the festive season - Thanksgiving next week, then Advent and Christmas, I need a break from the very exciting but intense work of podcasting. This will give you a chance to catch up on those episodes you intended to listen to but have not had time for. I hope you have enjoyed the inaugural season of Liturgical Rebels. Would love to hear what feedback you have for me. What have you enjoyed on Liturgical Rebels this year? How co...
