The Zach and Pat Show

What would you say if you could sit down with your 25-year-old self for one conversation? No guest this week. Just Zach and Pat going through the four things they'd change - career, relationships, money, and health - including the mistakes that cost them time they can't get back. Pat on the years he spent building a business while his kids grew up without him. Zach on three years of sweat equity that never paid out, and why he cut his own income in half on purpose. Real numbers, real regrets, and the advice they wish someone had handed...

Everybody told you the pain is where it hurts. Stephen Shinn has built an entire practice on the idea that it almost never is. Stephen is the owner of Revive Wellness Company, and he works in the gap nobody else covers — the space between rehab and fitness that he says both sides fundamentally misunderstand. He's gotten people out of wheelchairs, taken a paralyzed bricklayer from five years of failed PT to walking and talking in six months, and cut a leading stem-cell clinic's treatment counts in half using nothing but breath work. In this one: why "it's just part of...

Everything in the block below goes straight into the YouTube description field. Wes Hoffman has written over 50 songs in a year, toured 924 Gilman, and built two music communities from an Instagram account. He also says the thing most musicians don't want to hear: good songs will only take you so far. In this episode we get into what actually grows a band, why Spotify monthly listeners are a lie, and how a divorce, a closed business and a new job inside three months turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to him. Wes Hoffman is a...

Jack returns a year on to trace how much has shifted in the business and in himself. On the business side he walks through the full subcontractor life cycle he's now watched play out over five years, why he's productizing fencing into a simple, scalable 'Chick-fil-A' menu under Faster Fences, and the honest fear of letting go of operational control that's the single thing capping his growth. On the personal side, he opens up about realizing he'd built his whole identity around chasing money, the spiritual-coaching work with Josh Wiesler that followed, and a run of experiences (a business...

Dalton is a realtor at CRS Belt Nichols — and the "bonus dad" to co-host Pat’s two boys. He and the guys cover his path from car sales to real estate, the mentors who shaped him, the realities of the sales grind (lead sources, pre-approvals, listing strategy), and some genuinely wild listing stories. Then the episode turns into its best self: an honest, moving conversation about co-parenting after divorce — how Pat and Dalton put their egos aside, backed each other up, and built a blended family the kids actually thrive in.

What you’ll take away

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Dr. Jessica Nieva was born profoundly deaf and grew up isolated — raised to read lips, not sign, in a Filipino family that pushed medicine. She didn’t hear clearly until a cochlear implant at 30, an experience she calls life-changing. In this episode she and the guys talk about the first sounds she ever heard, running 60+ miles a week to cope with loneliness, building Benton Family Dentistry while raising four daughters in five years, dropping insurance to trade burnout for quality, and why she now takes health and happiness over income.

What you’ll take away

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Stephen Burton is the owner and educator of Foundation Rescue in St. Louis, with 35 years and $100M in foundation repairs behind him. In this episode he pulls back the curtain on an industry with no licensing test and no standards: why homes really fail (gutters and downspouts, not "your walls falling"), how to avoid getting ripped off, the $175 inspection he’ll do before you spend $30,000, the difference between clients and customers, and the faith and integrity that turned him from "part of the problem" into an advocate. Equal parts homeowner survival guide and a lesson in doing business the ri...

In 2018, a truck exploded just feet from firefighter Aaron Burlingame.

He came back. This one’s about leadership, culture, faith, and what the

worst days teach you about what actually matters.

Aaron Burlingame — Battalion Chief with the St. Charles Fire Department — sits down with Zach & Pat on leading vs. bossing, building a culture people choose over higher pay, first-responder mental health, raising sons who own their mistakes, surviving serious burns, and the faith he found on the other side. Real conversation, no clickbait.

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Today we are excited to sit down with our first ever tattoo artist AND shop owner with Derek Heidorn! Part of TAC Team through Revive BJJ, Derek has long had a spirit that sought out fulfillment through defiance. He saw the molds the world tried told him to fit in and this led him to forming his own path starting first in contracting work and then transitioning through his creative spirit towards tattooing - his first piece ever done on his own leg! Now running his own shop, raising a family, and continuing to level up in BJJ, Derek's...

Today we are pleased to bring our new friend Nicky Robertson and all the chuckles that come with it! New to the Adventure Unknown family, Nicky sits down with us to discuss her experience in the service industry, how she parlayed that into an ever evolving career currently now with Fresh Markets STL - a group focused on bringing clean eating options to large scale management operations. A lot of enthusiasm and tons of life experience, Nicky also lets us in on her thirst for adventure and reminds us that life is one meant to be lived - not...

Today we are excited to be joined by the very woman who has painted most (not the mural behind us though) of the art that hangs in our studio - the one and only Rachel Hinz! Rachel is a transplant from Michigan who has spent the last eight years making St. Louis her home and contributing to the artistry that our community is widely recognized for. She does all this while maintaining a career and being the woman of the house for her husband and three kids. Whether you're an artist or convinced that you don't have such skills...

Today Zach and Pat catch up with a quick cameo from Murph as we break down our recent travels, the reality of maintaining ones own rental properties, the awesome UFC Freedom 250 card, and of course we give a big thank you to all those who tuned in, left a comment, or shared the show as we recently broke our 500 subscriber goal this week! We appreciate you for being our audience and promise to continue to improve and bring you the best show possible for as long as we can!

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Today we are excited to bring Jen Bardot to our table to talk about her endeavors in building communities, publishing international best sellers, and what it's like being an entrepreneur raising three young men! Loads of experience going back to her days working for Enterprise Bank, Jen has taken her skills from the days of getting folks approved for loans to fund their dreams to writing multiple books and using that ethos to invest into her own community focused on GRIT. One thing about St. Louis folks - they're gritty and Jen's mission to help thousands of people get...

Today we are so excited to bring you one of the top 185 lb bjj competitors in the world (18th to be precise) Nick Mataya fresh off his win at CXBJJ here in St. Louis only a couple weeks back. Having wrestled most of his youth, Nick felt the gap that was left from the sport while he was studying to become a physical therapist at Mizzou. Now only six years after getting into the sport - Nick has made quite a name for himself having competed at ADCC and earned every bit of the accolades attached to his name...

Today we are excited to be sitting down with our new friend and fellow Adventure Unknown member Abe Whitehead! A man with no shortage of experience, Abe sits down and tells us his life of olympic weightlifting, his dental practice he runs with his wife, what it's like to be man raising four daughters, and also what it means to expose ego and manage it.

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0:00 introducing Abe

3:55 weightlifting...

in today's episode we are excited to have our producer in town for an episode as Murph sits down with us to talk about his life in south Florida, his upcoming opportunities with his business Paradigm Media, the adventures he's been on both domestically and internationally, and of course - Murph tries his best to persuade Zach and Pat to join him for a weekend of dance music this November for EDC Orlando. Lots of laughs, lots of catching up - we're always excited to sit down with the man who puts these episodes together even from all the...

In today's episode we are please to be joined by Matthew Fleshman the founder of OTB Social Media! Matthew sits down with us to talk about sustainable strategies on social, dives into some of the things coming up in the AI revolution as well as his top picks for the best LLM's, some talk about housing, and of course diving into how he balances all this while being a dedicated father!

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Today we are excited to be joined for the third time on the ZP Show - our good friend and mastermind behind the CXBJJ Invitational...Adam Cella! Probably the most featured guest on the show, he's back promoting his next amazing event here in St. Louis which Zach will be taking on our good friend Erion from EZ Talk in gi bjj! Join us as we get the details on the event but also talk a little about the UFC, the upcoming White House card, and where bjj is at as a whole today!

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In today's episode we are doing something totally new as we have on Angela Skurtu, a sex and relationship therapist and host of her own award winning program - The Open Bedroom Doors Show! Angela helps couples and individuals understand their intimate needs and coaches them on how to properly communicate these things in an open and positive way. This conversation is great for anyone single, taken, or just looking to understand connection and intimacy better. Join us as we talk about attachment and personality types, the adult film industry and it's impact on relations, and what she's learned...

In today's episode we are excited to bring you Charlie Metzner from our local firefighting departments here in St. Louis as well as a driving force behind the St. Louis Hero Network - a nonprofit dedicated to giving back to the families of current and former local first responders! The son of a firefighter himself, Charlie knew that public service was something he wanted to invest in and dedicate his life to. Taking the leap from serving the community to serving those who serve the community, Charlie's mission of giving is one we can all learn from and take...

Today we are so excited to be welcoming back for the second time...Patrick Woodling! Pat was featured on the show just over two years ago and we've been chomping at the bit to sit back down with him ever since. Partially because he's a great pillar of our local community, but also - because we can't stop laughing when he's here! Join us as we breakdown his journey at Watson's Martial Arts, getting in trouble as a city youth in south county, and of course - some crazy stories featuring some less than reputable characters otherwise known as...

In today's episode we are pleased to bring you Shawn Lipe! Shawn is an appraiser who left his career in pharmaceuticals because he felt such a strong connection to finding out the stories in the things others would find value in. Join us as we talk about his wild world travels, how being an appraiser differs from Antiques Road Show/Pawn Stars, and of course, hear us brag all about the hidden gem that is St. Louis!

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Today we are excited to be bringing you our latest conversation with Josh Loy! Much like Zach and our producer Murph, Josh found a lot of professional momentum in the service industry. Now at 26, he serves as a consultant for different outfits as well as the head of his own at MK Ranch here in good ole MO! Join us as we reminisce on the service industry, go deep into grappling and UFC lore, how the MLB product has changed, and of course - what it means to be a great dad! Please like, comment, and subscribe for more...

What animals would you fight? What's one meal you'd eat for the rest of your life? Your top 5 movies you could rewatch forever. These are the questions you wanna know, we have the answers. Please like, comment, and subscribe for more! We are on our way to 500 subs and we need all the support we can get!

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0:00 catching up

10:45 question 1

16:30 question 2

20:00 question 3

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We are so excited to be sitting down with Colin Ledbetter for the second time and with huge developments since his first visit! As you may or may not remember Colin's tenure as a STL city police officer was met with tragedy when he was shot while on duty. Knowing full well that he might not have been out of the woods after his close call, eventually the blood clots would start and this would lead to his leg being amputated only a couple months ago. Now we're sitting down with him to talk what he's been through, where...

In today's episode we are excited to be sitting down with Dr. Dustin Adamo, the owner and operator of Triad Functional Mental Health. Dustin is not just a psychologist but he's also a personal trainer and nutritionist - making sure that when someone comes to him, he's able to see the big picture and help them find their best mental state in ever capacity. Join us as we breakdown his nutritional protocol, minimal fitness standards for wellness, helping people figure out if they're working for success, fulfillment, or validation, and a whole lot more!

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In today's episode we are excited to bring on one of the newer Adventure Unknown contemporaries in Dr. Ian McIntosh! Ian was an athlete growing up with his main love being wrestling. After multiple disc injuries, most of his doctors told him the best course of action was to leave fitness alone forever - something he was not ready to do. This would eventually lead to him finding chiropractic medicine and coming back better than ever. He would then go on to switch his focus in education to that same field and now he is helping populations of athletes...

Today we have a very special guest as we have Pat's longtime baseball coach and mentor Lance Shuermann sitting down with us! Claimed to be Pat's "Kyle Watson", Lance has seen many an athlete grow and prosper in his system not only as baseball players but highlighting the need for strong character as a dominant factor. Knowing Pat better than just about anyone else, join us for their stories, his tips for up and coming athletes, and lots of talk about STL sports which - in our humble opinion - is one of the best and most underrated sports...

In today's episode we have yet another referral from our good friend Matt Kresko with Mike Lynn of Revolve Homebuyer! Mike's story starts off how many kids in STL's does - getting in trouble with the law. After being charger with burglary just at the end of high school, this would see Mike do 30 days in jail and five year on probation. He eventually would move south of the Lou and begin a long stint in sales and then pivot permanently to real estate where he is now a whiz of buying and selling. Mike's story is a great...

Straight outta NeuAge we are excited to be joined by Rocky Aliberti's right hand man Brad Warlick! Consistent with the same energy Rocky always brings to the show, Brad is humble, friendly, and full of stories. Join us as we talk about what it means to be a nomad, his career of playing and coaching hockey at multiple levels, and the ever expanding world of men's enhanced health when it comes to TRT, peptides, and more!

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In today's episode we are excited to bring you STL sports Hall of Fame inductee and owner and operator of Chez Tequila Dimitri Sanchez! Dimitri was inspired after a trip to Mexico to start his own tequila brand and now three years later he is bring it to fruition! This all while being a dedicated husband and a new father of twins - Dimitri is trying to instill the same dedication and legacy his father did for him with his family liquor store. A great story and great tequila - make sure you check out Chez Tequila ASAP!

In today's episode we are so excited to bring you one of the most triumphant stories to come out of St. Louis with our new friend Yunis Abdalla! Spending time in his childhood in both south and north St. Louis, Yunis was no stranger to running with tough crowds and having to learn equally as tough lessons. This led to him being intentionally attacked by someone he thought was a friend and also hit by a stray bullet due to gang violence even after he left the street life. As a young father, he had to make a decision...

We are excited to bring back one of our favorite guests from the days in Zach's spare bedroom - Ryan Hansen! Ryan has lived a wild life of bodybuilding, bjj, and even had a stint on a reality dating show! With this second episode, we break down his injuries keeping him out of bjj, how he used his experience to stop a car jacker, and his opinion on the market now that he and Zach are both working with Compass Realty!

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In today's episode we are excited to sit down with professional super cross rider/racer Carter Stephenson! Hailing from Rolla, MO - Carter has been riding ever since he was little and his father saw this passion and made the decision to invest in it long term. After an accident on a Harley broke his neck, Carter made the choice to step away from riding only for his fiancee' to remind him that his purpose is on bikes. Now a father and expecting a second little one soon, Carter's energy shines through in the way he speaks and the...

For the second time on the show we'd love to reintroduce you to the now current Adventure Unknown contemporary Josh Weisler! Josh has recently moved into our wonderful community and has been leaving his mark all over helping business owners shed the mentality of the past and step into the next level of their business lives as well as reaching new heights as a father and rediscovering his faith in a higher power.

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In today's episode we are so excited to be sitting down with Kyle Fernandez of Elevate Real Estate here in STL! A friend of Matt Kresko's, Kyle's story is one of lots of falling down and getting back up as his early days in the business were spent trying to keep out of corporate America. Through many trials and tribulations Kyle was able to start his own firm whom have recorded up to 300 million in deals recently! A great guy with a lot of enthusiasm and lots of growth to share, this episode is perfect for anyone looking to...

In today's episode we are excited to be sitting down with Kari Eaker of Eaker's Family Barbershop located in Edwardsville, Illinois! Pat recently met Kari while on his trip to Vegas and knew she'd be a great fit for the show! Join us as we jump into her family business, her philosophy of traditional values in parenting, how she's changed her barbershop with the times, and also some of the craziest haircuts she's ever done!

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In today's episode we are sitting down with Alec Wallingsford - a father, husband, and coach at the up and coming The Yard Gym location here in our local St. Louis area. Alec's journey is fueled by his faith and his desire to be the best man in his family's life. Join us as we talk on his position at The Yard, coaching youth sports, and how he developed a relationship with God in the mix of all of it!

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In today's episode we are back with another local real estate personality as our good friend Casey Samuels is sitting down with us from Fasterhouse Buyer's Club! Working alongside repeat guest Matt Kresko, Casey has made it his mission in life to secure motivated investors the capital needed to purchase the homes they desire to build long term wealth! We'll get into some of his biggest advices, some of the frequent mistakes investors make, as well as how he was saved in 2017 when he turned his life over in his faith to Jesus Christ.

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In today's episode we are pleased to be joined by EJ Sansone, the president of Sansone Build + Design here in St. Louis! One of six kids and a father of four himself, EJ has been raised in the quintessential STL upbringing - faith, sports, and a healthy respect for community. Not only is the head of a top notch company but he's also spent time as a city alderman in our local area. At this point in life when he's not running his business, his main priority is maximizing time with his family, enjoying seeing his kids become adult...