The Sales Machine

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By: John Rankins

Welcome to The Sales Machine Podcast; with your host, John Rankins, a seasoned expert in transforming sales teams into powerhouses. Whether you’re a CEO, a Head of Sales Operations, a Regional Sales Manager, or leading a direct sales team, this podcast is your sanctuary for building a successful sales dynasty. John, with his rich experience, has guided over 2000 businesses to generate substantial revenue by revitalizing their sales teams. He can help tackle the real challenges you face - from recruiting the right salespeople, handling underperformers, to creating a repeatable sales process. Join us weekly as we bring you a bl...

Why most CEOs have zero real influence and how to fix it fast | Matt Brown
#130
04/08/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

What if the most powerful currency in business is not money, not followers, and not even your product? Matt Brown, multi-award-winning bestselling author and host of 800+ episodes on The Matt Brown Show, joins John Rankins to reveal why influence is the true engine of sustainable success. From building a high-value network with a single email to why your LinkedIn reach is secretly zero, Matt breaks down the Influence System that has helped CEOs drive over $10 billion in sales. If you are a founder, entrepreneur, or sales professional ready to stop being invisible and start owning...


Why Your Sales Training Is Wasting Money (And What Actually Works) | Marcus Chan
#129
04/01/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

What separates a top-1% sales performer from someone who almost got fired in their first 90 days? Marcus Chan lived on both sides. From scrambling at the library for sales books to leading 110-person teams and writing a Wall Street Journal bestseller, Marcus breaks down the exact playbook he used to transform dumpster-fire sales teams into top performers—fast. In this episode, he reveals his proven 90-day system, the 5 pillars every sales team is missing, and why the future belongs to AI-powered "super reps." If you're in sales leadership, this one will change how you run yo...


20 Years Training Zoom & Salesforce's Best Reps — Here's What Actually Works | Richard Harris
#128
03/25/2026

Episode Summary

What truly separates good salespeople from legendary ones? Richard Harris — founder of Harris Consulting Group, co-founder of Surf and Sales, and author of The Seller's Journey — joins John Rankins for a masterclass in the real psychology behind closing deals, building elite teams, and leading in the age of AI. With 20+ years of training reps at Zoom, Salesforce, GE, Gainsight, and beyond, Richard reveals the exact negotiation frameworks, mindset shifts, and founder-led sales secrets that transform average performers into revenue machines. From selling Jolly Ranchers in middle school to coaching Fortune 500 sales floors, his journey is as i...


Why Most Door-to-Door Teams Fail (And the Training Fix That Changes Everything) | Lenny Gray
#127
03/18/2026

Episode Summary 

Lenny Gray didn't just knock doors — he built an empire from them. Starting as a college kid selling pest control for Orkin, Lenny grew into the Godfather of Door-to-Door, scaling multiple companies to 8-figure exits and training reps across 48 industries. In this episode, Lenny breaks down his battle-tested 5-step initial approach, the "Black Friday Close," why direct sales is making a massive comeback in the AI era, and how to build a sales team that actually sticks. If you're in sales, this is your new playbook.

 

What You'll Learn:

🚪 The exact 5...


The #1 Rule for Using AI in Sales & Marketing (Most People Get This Wrong) | Jeff Hunter
#126
03/11/2026

🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY 

What if AI could clone your best salesperson, write like your top copywriter, and handle 2,500 calls per minute — all without you lifting a finger? In this episode, John Rankins sits down with Jeff J. Hunter, "The Savage Marketer," founder of VA Staffer and creator of the AI Persona Method. Jeff reveals how he's helping entrepreneurs worldwide leverage AI to 10X productivity, future-proof their teams, and dominate their markets — before their competitors even realize what's happening.

 

🔥 KEY TAKEAWAYS

🤖 How to create AI "employees" that clone your best performers and fill every gap on your team ...


Your CRM Is a $40 Million Lie — Here's How to Fix It | Jason Kramer
#125
03/04/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

Your CRM isn't failing because of the software — it's failing because of the process (or lack of one). In this episode, John Rankins sits down with Jason Kramer, founder of Cultivize, a CRM consulting firm that has helped businesses track nearly $40 million in recovered revenue. Jason breaks down why 70% of CRM implementations completely collapse, how to stop leads from leaking through the cracks, and the exact framework for turning your sales data into a predictable revenue engine. If you've ever bought a CRM and watched your team ignore it, this episode will show you exactly wh...


AI Cannot Replace These 3 Things | FRANCIS KONG
#124
02/25/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

Are introverts actually better salespeople than extroverts? 

What do Kodak and Blockbuster teach us about modern sales? 

Francis Kong, President of Success Options and one of Asia's most respected business speakers, joins John Rankins to answer these questions and more. From fixing store mannequins to training thousands of salespeople across the globe, Francis shares the mindset shifts, real-world stories, and proven principles that have kept him at the top for over 25 years. This episode is a masterclass in sales, leadership, and building a career that lasts.

 

KEY TAK...


The Partnership Mistake That Cost $50M (And How to Never Make It) | Liz Elting
#123
02/19/2026

What does it actually take to build a billion-dollar company from a dorm room with no money, no safety net, and a 50/50 partner you'd eventually break up with? Liz Elting, co-founder of TransPerfect — the world's largest language services company — pulls back the curtain on the raw, unfiltered truth of entrepreneurship. From eating ramen on $8K/year salaries in New York City to a $50 million legal battle, Liz shares the hard-won lessons that turned struggle into a billion-dollar empire. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, culture, and building a business that lasts.

 

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How To Build A Movement (Not Just A Company): The Marketing Strategy That Built HubSpot
#122
02/11/2026

Episode Summary

[HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO] What if you could grow revenue by 6,000% without trade shows, cold calls, or ads? Mark Roberge, HubSpot's founding CRO who scaled the team from 1 to 450 employees, reveals the counterintuitive strategy that placed them #33 on the INC 500 fastest-growing companies. In this explosive highlights video, Mark shares how HubSpot didn't just build a company—they invented a movement called "inbound marketing" and ate their own cooking for customer acquisition. Now a Harvard Business School lecturer and co-founder of Stage 2 Capital, Mark exposes why most VCs and founders are obsessed with the wrong metrics, what AI really means fo...


AI Gives Content, Humans Give Context: Why People Still Buy From People
#121
02/04/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

Buyers are 75 to 85% through their journey before they ever talk to a salesperson. In this game-changing conversation, Roderick Jefferson, the founder of sales enablement and former VP at Salesforce, PayPal, and Oracle, reveals why AI will never replace the human advantage in sales. Discover the IQ + EQ + AI formula that makes technology enhance rather than replace authentic connection. Roderick shares how he transformed a medical device company by cutting seven products to three, simplifying eight sales stages to five, and replacing hour-long training videos with knowledge bites. Learn why trust beats features, context beats content...


The Lottery Mindset Killing Startups | Why Virality Comes LAST (300+ App Launches)
#120
01/28/2026

EPISODE SUMMARY

Jonathan Maxim lost a Kevin Hart investment deal despite having 46,000 users. Why? He made only $1,000 per month. After launching 300+ apps for TikTok, Triller, and Universal Music Group, he discovered what kills startups: the lottery mindset. Founders chase virality first and monetization never. Jonathan reveals his 4-phase framework that flips everything backwards. Product, marketing, sales, then virality LAST. He shares how he raised $9M, hit 1M users, survived markets tanking, and why venture debt beats VC for most founders. This is the playbook for building real economics before you scale.

KEY TAKEAWAYS<...


Why Traditional Closing Fails Buyers (And What Works)
#119
01/21/2026

Episode Summary

[HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO] Are you selling or just manipulating? Keenan, CEO of A Sales Growth Company and author of the legendary "Gap Selling," drops truth bombs that will shatter everything you think you know about closing deals. In this no-holds-barred highlights video, Keenan exposes why traditional closing techniques actually repel modern buyers and damage long-term relationships. As the "Chief Antagonist" who wrote one of the best sales books of all time, Keenan reveals the fatal flaw in relationship selling, why overcoming objections is backwards thinking, and what problem-centric selling actually looks like in practice. If you're still using...


The 1% Daily Improvement Method: How 15 Minutes A Day Transforms You Into 37X Better
#118
01/14/2026

Episode Summary

[HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO] What if just 15 minutes a day could make you 37 times better in a year? Victor Antonio, who rose from Chicago's toughest neighborhoods to VP of International Sales at a $3B Fortune 500 company, reveals the counterintuitive math behind compound improvement. In this explosive highlights video, Victor breaks down the 1% daily improvement method that transformed his life—from engineering degree to MBA to building a monster career and becoming one of the world's top sales minds. With 13 books, 200K+ YouTube subscribers, and stages shared with Zig Ziglar and John Maxwell, Victor proves that small, consistent actions create ex...


How Noble Purpose Drives Sales Success: The Billion-Dollar Lesson Every Leader Needs
#117
01/07/2026

Episode Summary

[HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO] What's the secret behind sales teams that outperform their competitors by 350%? In this power-packed highlights video from our full conversation, Lisa Earle McLeod unveils the transformative power of noble purpose in sales. Discover how LinkedIn's focus on creating opportunity for the global workforce propelled them past Monster.com, and why the best salespeople share a common trait: their true north is improving customers' lives, not just hitting numbers. Lisa's groundbreaking research proves that purpose-driven teams don't just win more—they're happier and more resilient. These essential highlights reveal how to activate your team's noble purpose an...


How We Grew from $2M to $10M: Pattern Interrupt Marketing in Crowded SaaS Markets
#116
12/31/2025

EPISODE SUMMARY

Most B2B SaaS companies are drowning in a sea of sameness—building brilliant tech but getting zero traction. Madhav Bhandari cracked the code on explosive growth by doing the opposite of everyone else. From scaling Hubstaff and Storylane from scrappy startups to eight-figure powerhouses, Madhav reveals his "Pattern Interrupt" framework that 7X'd brand visibility and drove $2M to $10M ARR in just two years—with zero investor funding. This episode unpacks the fatal mistakes killing most startups, why your marketing looks like everyone else's, and how to engineer unfair attention in impossibly crowded markets usin...


Delayed Gratification in B2B Sales: How to Turn 'Not Now' into Future Revenue
#115
12/24/2025

Episode Summary
What if the deals you're losing today could become your biggest wins tomorrow? Chris Ritson, founder of The SDR Leader and former sales leader at Perkbox, Workday, and Tessian, reveals the counterintuitive truth about B2B sales: most opportunities aren't "no"—they're "not yet." In this game-changing conversation, Chris exposes why 90% of SDRs are burning future revenue by treating every prospect like they need to buy today. Learn how to build a pipeline that compounds over time, master the art of strategic patience, and transform "not now" responses into a systematic advantage. If you're tired of playing th...


Improving Business Performance: How Wonder and Rigor Drive Innovation and Profitability
#114
12/17/2025

Episode Summary:
Dr. Natalie Nixon, the "creativity whisperer to the C-suite," reveals how leaders at Microsoft, Meta, and Salesforce transform creativity from a buzzword into measurable results. Her WonderRigor™ framework demolishes the myth that innovation means chaos—showing instead how structured curiosity drives profitability. Discover why your team's best ideas emerge from strategic rest, not relentless hustle, and how asking better questions unlocks breakthrough performance. If you're navigating AI disruption while chasing growth, this conversation will fundamentally shift how you think about competitive advantage. Natalie proves that wonder isn't soft—it's your hardest-working strategic asset.

Key Takeaways: The co...


How to Build Trust in 60 Seconds | 7 Trust Languages Explained
#113
12/10/2025

Episode Summary
What if earning trust had nothing to do with time—and everything to do with understanding how people receive it? In this game-changing conversation, equity expert and bestselling author Minda Harts reveals the revolutionary framework that's transforming how Fortune 500 leaders build authentic workplace relationships. Discover why your trust-building efforts might be falling flat, how to decode the seven distinct "trust languages" that drive human connection, and the 60-second technique top CEOs use to instantly establish credibility. Whether you're leading a team, closing deals, or navigating difficult conversations, this episode will fundamentally shift how you approach trust—turning it f...


AI Just Made Half Your Sales Team Obsolete - Here's What Smart CEOs Are Doing
#112
12/03/2025

Episode Summary:

The AI revolution isn't coming to sales—it's already here, and it's brutal. Justin Shriber, CEO of Terret, reveals how artificial intelligence is fundamentally reshaping sales teams right now. As a leader at the forefront of AI-powered sales transformation, Justin has seen firsthand which companies are thriving and which are dying in this new landscape. In this raw, no-BS conversation, Justin exposes which sales roles are disappearing, which are becoming more valuable, and the counterintuitive moves top CEOs are making to dominate. If you're still running sales the old way, you're already behind.


Key Takeaways: Th...


How to Build 124K LinkedIn Followers Fast: The Content Strategy Revealed
#111
11/26/2025

Episode Summary

Want to know how a strategy consultant built 124,000 LinkedIn followers without posting daily? Alex Smith reveals the counterintuitive content creation method that built massive influence and a thriving consulting business. Forget everything you think you know about LinkedIn growth—this isn't about posting more or using fancy tools. Alex shares the one skill that changed everything: writing fast. Learn why content velocity beats content perfection, how to create compelling thought leadership in minutes, and the touch-typing secret that separates influencers from wannabes. Plus, discover why "different beats better" in business strategy and how to make your competitors wo...


The 'Little Yes' Strategy That Makes the Big Close Inevitable (How It Works)
#110
11/19/2025

Episode Summary

Tired of chasing closes and facing endless objections? Walter Crosby's "Little Yes" framework is how his clients achieve 37-43% revenue growth without pressure tactics. The secret: stop trying to close and start stacking small affirmations that make the final yes inevitable. As CEO of Helix Sales Development with 40 years in B2B sales, Walter reveals exactly how this psychology works—when prospects tell you what they need and it becomes their idea, the solution is a no-brainer. This episode breaks down the framework behind effortless closes, from discovery to decision, proving sales should be service, not manipulation.

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How to Build a Brand That Sells in 3 Seconds (Even When You're Sleeping)
#109
11/05/2025

Episode Summary

Your brand is working 24/7—but is it making you money or costing you deals? Phil Pallen, who's built brands for Shark Tank investors across 23 countries and collaborated with Adobe on AI initiatives, reveals the 3-second rule that separates forgettable brands from unforgettable ones. In this game-changing conversation, discover how to achieve consistency between what makes you great in real life and how that shows up online. Phil breaks down why most salespeople focus on the pitch when they should focus on the presence, and shares his proven framework for creating a brand that does the selling when yo...


Most Salespeople Are Faking It (And Customers Know) | The Real Success Formula
#108
10/29/2025

Episode Summary

What if your biggest sales problem isn't your pitch—it's pretending to be someone you're not? Jaime Diglio, founder of The Win Room and named one of the top 100 most powerful women in sales, reveals why 10x winners don't follow scripts—they discover their unique winning formula. From burnout at Gartner (literally losing feeling in her legs) to helping 98.4% of clients hit their goals, Jaime breaks down her ROI framework: Return on Interactions. Learn why authenticity beats perfection, how to stop living in the war room inside your head, and the Moneyball approach to sales that transforms aver...


This ONE Mistake Ruins Sales Teams (And You're Probably Doing It)
#107
10/22/2025

Episode Summary

You're measuring everything—calls, emails, pipeline velocity—but your sales team still isn't hitting quota. Here's why: tracking metrics without managing them is like stepping on a scale 20 times a day expecting to lose weight. Michelle Vazzana, Chief Innovation Officer at Impart and co-author of Cracking the Sales Management Code, exposes the fatal mistake killing sales performance: creating dashboards instead of driving coaching. Discover why elite managers coach less frequently but achieve better results, how the three dimensions of sales execution separate winners from losers, and why AI orchestration—not another CRM—is the future of scalable revenue...


Why Top Salespeople Fall In Love With Client Problems (Get Rich 10X Faster)
#106
10/15/2025

Episode Summary

What if getting rich 10X faster meant falling in love with client problems instead of pitching solutions? Mo Bunnell, CEO of Bunnell Idea Group and bestselling author of "Give to Grow," reveals why top salespeople obsess over problems while average performers chase deals. Discover the counterintuitive IKEA Effect that turns prospects into partners, the "so you can" phrase that eliminates objections, and the exact framework 60,000+ professionals use to make clients drag them across the finish line. This isn't about working harder—it's about the psychological shift that separates millionaire salespeople from the rest.

 

Key Tak...


Stop Impressing, Start Selling: The 'Nobody Cares' Framework That Wins
#105
10/08/2025

Episode Summary

What if everything you've been taught about sales is backwards? Jeff Bajorek, who's turned dead territories into multimillion-dollar producers and coached teams across 60+ companies, sits down to expose the uncomfortable truths most sales leaders won't admit. This isn't another feel-good episode about "mindset" and motivation. Jeff breaks down why your sales training investments are wasted, how a 13-year-old newspaper carrier outsold seasoned professionals using one simple strategy, and the five prospecting fundamentals that separate real closers from glorified telemarketers. Whether you're leading a team that's underperforming or hustling solo trying to hit quota, this raw conversation delivers...


$425M Revenue Secret: Why Your Startup Is Failing (And You Don't Know It)
#104
10/02/2025

Episode Summary

From developer to enterprise sales leader to agency founder, Dale Zwizinski reveals the brutal truth about scaling revenue: most founders think they've hit product-market fit when they haven't, and they don't document anything. With 20+ years building teams from 2 to 150 across six countries, Dale shares how Revenue Reimagined has driven $425M in revenue and $3.6M in savings for startups. Learn why stabilization beats scale, how to avoid "commercial debt" that kills growth, the AI charter framework for go-to-market success, and why your ICP should change every 90 days—not stay frozen for years.

Key Takeaways Documentation kills chaos...


This Pricing Expert Doubled 150+ SaaS Companies Revenue (Here's How)
#103
09/25/2025

Episode Summary

Discover hidden SaaS profit levers with Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt, top B2B pricing expert. From accidentally starting consulting to helping 150+ companies achieve 102% price increases, Ulrik reveals pricing isn't about numbers—it's about structure. Learn how shifting to all-you-can-eat pricing tripled a business and the psychological triggers that make customers buy.

Key Takeaways Price customers, not products - segment packages by customer type Package around outcomes - sell "pipeline generation" vs features Use price anchors - provide comparison context Avoid commercial debt - custom contracts kill scalability Match complexity to deal size Chapters

00:58 - The Accidental Pricing Co...


The Book That Gets Clients (Zack Zeller’s Method) | Zack Zeller
#102
09/17/2025

In this episode, I sit down with Zack Zeller, revenue leader and sales mentor, to unpack the mindset shifts and systems needed to go from individual hustle to building high-performing sales teams. With years of experience leading sales organizations, Zack shares practical lessons on leadership, coaching, and creating a culture where reps thrive.

We talk about:

Why hustle alone won’t scale in sales The biggest mistakes new sales leaders make How to build a culture of accountability without micromanagement The power of coaching in unlocking team performance Why self-awareness is a sales leader’s greatest tool...


The Secret Top Salespeople Know (That You Don’t) | Lee Salz
#101
09/11/2025

In this episode, I sit down with Lee Salz, globally recognized sales differentiation strategist and author of The First Meeting Differentiator. Lee has written seven books on sales, and his work has helped organizations worldwide move from generic sales pitches to truly differentiated conversations.

We talk about:

Why “different is better than better” in sales The fatal flaw with traditional discovery meetings How to turn every first meeting into a consultation that delivers value The difference between an inconvenience and a real problem buyers will pay to solve Why emotion—not logic—drives deals forward How to quali...


How to Win Deals Fast: Align With Buyers or Lose Them | Greg Nutter
#100
09/03/2025

Still trusting your CRM, ERP, or sales tools to tell you the truth about your business?

Here’s the problem: Most of your systems are just fancy filing cabinets. They don’t help your team perform, they just track what’s already happened.

If you’re tired of chasing reports, dealing with bad data, and running a sales org on broken systems, book a strategy call with The Sales Machine. We'll show you how to finally get visibility, accountability, and real performance:
👉www.thesalesmachine.com

 

Now to the good part...
In this...


How to Sell Without Feature Dumping (The Storytelling Fix) | ft. Stephen Steers
#99
08/27/2025

Most salespeople kill their deals without even realizing it…

They feature-dump their way into irrelevance. They think rattling off specs will impress prospects, when in reality, it’s the fastest way to bore them and lose the sale.

Here’s the truth: features don’t sell…stories do.

That’s why in this episode of The Sales Machine Podcast, I sit down with Stephen Steers, sales expert and author of Superpower Storytelling. We break down exactly how to ditch feature dumping and start selling with stories that stick.

👉 If you’re tired of long sal...


How to Build a Network That Actually Drives Business Growth | ft. Andi Baldwin
#98
08/20/2025

Most professionals think networking is about adding names to a list. But the truth? Most of those names never buy, never trust you, and never move the needle for your business.

If you’re leading a sales team or running a professional services firm that’s stuck in “random acts of networking,” this episode is for you.

Before we dive in, if you want to fix the chaos in your sales process, build a system that drives performance, and actually grow, book a call with The Sales Machine team. We’ll help you turn your network in...


The LinkedIn Prospecting Blueprint: How to Go From Cold to Closed | ft. Matt Clark
#97
08/13/2025

If your LinkedIn outreach is getting ghosted…it’s not because people “don’t use LinkedIn anymore.”

It’s because your message is just another Hey {FirstName}, I see we have connections in common… snoozefest.

❌ You’re blending in with the noise.
❌ You’re chasing instead of attracting.
❌ You’re not using systems built for 2025.

Here’s the fix: Book a free strategy call with The Sales Machine, and I’ll show you how to turn cold LinkedIn outreach into warm, consistent conversations that actually close. 👉 www.thesalesmachine.com

In this episode, I sit down with...


How to Sell With Purpose (and Never Compete on Price Again) | ft. Lisa McLeod
#96
08/06/2025

If your sales team is stuck competing on price, you don’t have a pricing problem. You have a purpose problem.

👉 Want to build a sales system that connects emotionally, drives high-value deals, and retains top talent? Book a strategy call with The Sales Machine: www.thesalesmachine.com

In this episode, I sat down with the one and only Lisa McLeod, the woman behind the concept of “Noble Purpose.” She’s worked with giants like Salesforce and Pfizer, helping them shift from transactional sales to transformational results.

We talk about why most sales teams lose...


How to Avoid Toy AI and Build Real Business Value | ft. Dr. Lisa Palmer
#95
07/30/2025

Still trusting your CRM, ERP, or sales tools to tell you the truth about your business?

Here’s the problem: Most of your systems are just fancy filing cabinets. They don’t help your team perform, they just track what’s already happened.

If you’re tired of chasing reports, dealing with bad data, and running a sales org on broken systems, book a strategy call with The Sales Machine. We'll show you how to finally get visibility, accountability, and real performance:

👉www.thesalesmachine.com

Now to the good part...

In this e...


This Founder 10x’d Her Sales using Genius Marketing | ft. Victoria Hajjar
#94
07/23/2025

If you’re still trying to sell to “everyone,” you’re losing to someone who chose to go deep on someone.

Book a strategy call with The Sales Machine and we’ll help you own your niche, dial in your messaging, and turn your segment into a sales engine:

👉 www.thesalesmachine.com

In this special episode, let’s go back to when I sat down with Victoria Hajjar—one of the sharpest minds I’ve ever met when it comes to positioning, segmentation, and messaging that sells. She’s built multiple growth programs, advised founders acro...


Special Episode: You’ll Never Win in Sales Without This Mindset | ft. Brad Lea
#93
07/16/2025

If you’re not closing, don’t blame the market.

Don’t blame the script.

Don’t blame your leads.

The real reason most salespeople stay stuck?

They haven’t mastered the mindset required to win.

In this special episode, I sit down with the one and only Brad Lea, serial entrepreneur, sales philosopher, and straight-talking powerhouse. We talk about what really separates the closers from the complainers and why most people are running in the wrong direction with the right amount of energy.

If you’re ready to build a syst...


How to Keep Selling When Tech Is Eating the Sales Role | Ft. Victor Antonio
#92
07/09/2025

The truth? Sales isn’t dying.

But the old way of doing it is getting eaten alive by tech.

AI is here. It’s fast. It’s efficient.

And if you’re not adapting, you’re going to be left behind.

In this episode, I sit down with one of the best to ever do it, Victor Antonio, to talk about what’s really happening to sales roles, the tech takeover, and how YOU can future-proof your business.

From role-playing with AI agents to understanding the economic impact of job abatement, this episode...


Still Cold Calling Like It’s 2010? Here’s What to Do Instead. | Ft. Leslie Venetz
#91
07/02/2025

If your team is still “smiling and dialing” without a system, listen up!

The phone isn’t dead.


But the way you're using it probably should be.


Most sales teams are still cold calling like it’s 2010:


Generic openers. No research. No empathy. Zero personalization.


And then they wonder why no one’s picking up…or worse, why nobody cares.


That’s why I sat down with Leslie Venetz, one of the sharpest outbo...